Kobojunkie: ■ This "glory in marriage" mentality seems to color your perception of all things.
Glory in marriage, what an interesting way to put it.
Well, the complaints of women not getting 'quality men's or complaining men are scum & men complaining women are scam is out there.
And this is across nationalities; not an African thing.
A lot of people want marriage; perhaps on their own terms/ they are ill-prepared so fail at it/ or don't see why they should by the cow when they can get milk for free or they are afraid to be stripped of their worldly goods in future.
Humans are social beings and we want our own clan loyal to us or that would prioritize us first. You majorly get that by marriage, occult or a secluded religious order.
Vyvyanvyvy: You are judging me for being a caring and overprotective mother and you have concluded that I will be a bad mother in law , God forbid I will never mistreat another woman daughter for my daughters to pay the price in their marriages never , if you see a woman who has female children hating on their son wife she is a brainless woman and she has no idea what goes around comes around and her female children will pay the price of her wickedness. My elder brother was my late mother favourite child she train him till univeristy and she didn't train my sister and I to university because she had the mindset that only male children can go to the university not female children and my brother is doing well and she has never for once became a nuisance in his house until she died and I will do the same as her my future daughter in law will be so happy to have me as her mother in law . My prayers is for my children to find good wife/ husbands who will be a blessing to our family so that we can leave in peace and harmony and not the ones who will come to destroy. Stop judging me based on my parenting what I am doing for my children is totally normal, as a parent my children are my responsibility until they can independently provide for themselves.
Now you have established I am not 'bitter against you', I am judging you.
Unfortunately, emotional blackmail doesn't work on me
Your first post has all the details to make me deduce that you would make a bad MIL if you do not change your mindset quickly.
If you are blackmailing your son that he is ungrateful because he wants to contact his dad at 15 (out of which your brother raised him for some years), what would you tell him at 25yrs or 30yrs when he brings a woman he loves home?
Now you confessed with your hands that you are overprotective; If I state that in a subsequent post on this thread, you would accuse me of judging /hating you.
FYI, overprotectiveness is also a trait of a woman who would grow to become a bad MIL 🤣
Not all bad MILs necessarily mistreat their DILs; some cannot maintain healthy boundaries and drag the man with his wife.
Your children are your responsibility (and their fathers); yes. However, always have it at the back of your mind that you are an alagbato* hence they would grow and fly out of the nest. Hence, you need to cultivate a life outside of them so you don't feel bitter and empty when they leave. You would miss them, yes however be proud that they are now doing well representing you in the world.
*Alagbato is like a custodian; God owns the children while we the parents are like their custodians/guardians on earth.
this lady is an instagram twerker. she is not an entertainer with sold out shows. i doubt only fans or proper hardcore porn can net her that much money that fast.
Well, let's wait and see
How did D'banj get entangled with fraud though? He seemed to be doing well before his sojourn to the U.S after which his career just fizzled.
babz11: You are not harming anyone but your own self. Haters of Islam need to understand that Islam is not religion of Arab. It is religion for everyone. When you embraces Islam, you become part of family no matter where you are. I admire that I’m part of that religion who represents every culture and race
Haters of Islam
I am harming myself?
Come up with better emotional blackmail.
If CU stopped an Ifa worshipper from entering with his Opele on his neck, would we become haters of traditional religion?
Gerrard59: Even though I am liberal on sexual issues, I won't lie o, anytime I think about it, I agree that easy access to sex and contraception has rendered marriage less palatable. Why buy the cow when the milk is widely available and free? For instance, in western countries, birth rates are higher than in East Asian societies simply because the latter frowns on wedlock. A western couple can cohabit and bear children. In east Asia, dem must marry before a child is born.
The people who get to benefit from the current arrangement are well-to-do men. They have literally have plenty cows without owning a ranch.
@bold:
Talk of own goal
After creating a system that is 'supposed to liberate' you.
The situation dey everywhere. Two days ago, I was watching a CNN video on YouTube about the decline in marriage. The expert said it is because young men are not educated as before due to a focus on educating women, offshoring of manufacturing jobs which men usually hold, women squaring up with men economically but maintaining hypergamous standards for filtering them etc. The issue, he said is that there is a dearth of quality men for these women who are in great abundance. As a result, men are staying lonelier since this group of women don't want them. Here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK4y6C1Uuhw If to say na black man, I for think say na our brother in Christ - Pansophi.st.
Modernisation has been very good in providing goods and services - affordably and seamlessly. Also, quality of life has improved tremendously, and poverty has declined drastically. But it has resulted in sheer competition for scarce resources, and with women in the workforce, the competition gets fiercer. So, an average man is not just competing with his fellow average dudes but women, some of them are treated preferentially. Na one of the reasons the new South Korean president won, the men got fed up with how women were treated preferentially, yet they (men) are mandated to enlist in national service and have to be the provider in the family. In return, South Korean women no dey gree born or marry since they want to be very good at whatever they do and don't want to continue in the patriarchial system as their mothers. The result? The birth rate in SK is the lowest globally at 0.8, way below the standard for developed countries at 2.1. The same competition is part of the causes of low birth rates in China, Singapore and Japan. Unlike other parts of the world, in East Asia, children born out of wedlock are frowned upon. Rightfully so, because children born in single-parent families tend to be poorer than their parents, and single-mother families tend to be the poorest. In Japan, families with single mothers constitute the highest number of poor people. So East Asians are wary of having children out of wedlock. The costs are just too high socially, economically etc. Government no dey care about them. They focus on married couples. You see why I laugh when our people promote baby-mamaism?
So, Nigeria's case is even worse than the US, especially in the south; the competition for scarce jobs is very high. In 2018 abi 2019, more than 76K applied for PwC's graduate trainee. That same year, Seplat's applications was over 40K (i wrote about the recruitment process then on NL). Since then, Seplat never recruit again. Meanwhile, she is supposed to recruit every four years. In North America, oil companies recruited as oil prices climbed up. In Nigeria, companies no even see the oil to pipe to the awaiting seaborne tankers.
If not for religion and maybe culture, marriage rates for don drop in Nigeria as people would see that there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Religion offers hope. Africans' case is even worse than East Asians because they cannot move out easily to neighbouring countries to work and earn higher salaries. Japanese, South Koreans and Singaporeans can work in Australia, New Zealand, the US etc., earn higher salaries and later move back. The average Japanese who knows English has opportunities to work in Australia or apply for an L1 visa to work in the US for higher salaries. After all, more than 60% of the 24K+ Japanese researchers outside Japan are women. Where a typical Nigerian woman or man wan go? Na Niger Republic or Chad? Ghana? South Africa wey try dey OK, dem no like us. Even them sef get their wahala. Meanwhile, South Koreans are in the top 15 nationalities for Express Entry to Canada. Luckily for these Asians, the re-offshoring/friend-shoring of jobs away from China would benefit them in the long run.
I was thinking yesterday one of the reasons for the high rate of hookups na because things don hard for Nigeria. Just like the YT video, there are very few quality Nigerian men, unlike during Jonathan's administration. The few quality men are either married or have japa or want to japa. As jobs no too dey with low salaries, high cost of living and exposure to social media (these girls want to live like South Korean women, but where the work dey?), they resort to hookup. Luckily for them, the average Nigerian man likes to fvck. So when ₦2 enters his hand, he has budgeted ₦1 for toto services. I recall a tweet then by one chubby girl paraphrased - "why enter into a relationship when the same fvck the man go want yet he is doing his part financially. I prefer hookup straightaway after all, na the same fvck we go fvck"
Reminds me of some years back when Catholic Mothers' Association was complaining of the dearth of quality (trained) men for their over trained daughters.
If it was when sex wasn't cheap, single women & men did not have access to spouse benefits and children outside wedlock was frowned upon, I would say things would balance up.
NoToPile: Arrh I asked the same question @ first bolded, there is a very dangerous trend of irresponsible guys of marriagable age these days. It's not even about how much or how little they earn, it's about the terrible mindset.
Ladies should shine their eyes.
These generation of mothers should raise their sons well oo else a very major disaster is looming in the future.
Too much wailing and whining arrh.
This is what you get raising effeminate men who do not know what manhood/fatherhood is about.
The tragedy is that despite in their effeminateness, they are not useful in feminine roles at home.
Rayban25: Are you for real? You think what you mentioned is really beneficial to the man in the marriage?...omo sometimes you ladies dont actually sit down to put yourself in a guys shoes...you think everything is rainbow and sunshine. First of all a lot of men in Nigeria dont want to get married because of the economic situation
Number 2 even if they wanted to get married and have 4 or 5 kids you think his income alone will carry all of you? Unless you're willing to contribute substantially to the marriage just leave this fairy tale fantasy cause only a small percentage of men can afford to make you fulltime housewife with five kids
Honeydenz: Thinking aloud all through last night, I have thought very deeply till 1am this morning on how a particular pattern Of wealth and affluence drives In a family and society expecially in this part of the world.
Studying the life of rich and influential individuals in the society, most of them seem to come from an already established or comfortable home, this worries me since I and my siblings aren't really from a well-to-do home or a rich background. For example, Seyi tinubu is already successful and famous and doing well, all thanks to his father Bola tinubu and understandably, tinubu himself also had a rich parent and studied in the US and With the western exposure they come back home and do great things, Obaseki of Edo state, Femi otedola's father was a governor of Lagos state, I can go on and on. Your background and the environment you grew up in either impacts your life positively, or negatively, and could determine your future. But only if you allow it to. From the experiences of many, a humble upbringing, absence of one parent or lack of education does not mean that your future is doomed.
What's your opinion? Please no sentiments, religious or emotional comments pls, only reasonable argument is welcome. would really appreciate if this can get to the front page for more logical explanations.
@bold:
This part of your OP has answered your question.
It takes intentionality, breaking patterns, prayers/grace however, it can be done.
Henry22: Yes o, everyone as long as you are Yoruba because the the money will be gotten from igbo people and anyone who looks Igbo then will be shared amongst all Yoruba drivers
This is why it is good to very stubborn in some things. My people say 'if you throw away the knife that cuts your hand, the knife has done what it wants to do and throwing it away doesn't reverse that.'
And I admire the wife's liver sha; to ask for same thing you rejected that led to the person's death.
Anyways OP, if you are a Christian, there would be a lot of pressure to forgive & accommodate your MIL.
If (God forbid) anything happens to her while not in your house, you will have the burden of guilt.
Let her stay & support caring for her to the best of your ability.
Let this also open your eyes to the fact that your wife is a very entitled, selfish person who can't be 'gbekeled'.
We are still learners where you are. We haven't started killing people for not wearing hijab or roasting them because they thanked Jesus in a school WhatsApp group.
Ogbeni, go and sit down.
Covenant University doesn't want hijab; you either shape in or shape out!
Luckysbab: When you see such specific case, let us know.
I'm sure many Christian young ladies might indeed find something to cover their hair in a Muslim establishment, being used to doing so when it's time for prayers.
This is not so for Muslims, as the only time the headgear is allowed to be taken off is in the comfort of their homes.
I'm not sure why you left out the part of not asking Catholic nuns to take off theirs though.
All these long turanchi for yes or no.
You will not find because Christians are taught to obey the laws of the land and not inconvenience people.
If your hijab is so important to you and you know that Covenant is your CBT, you either apply for change of CBT or forfeit the exams for Allah's will.
If you are not hypocritical, why do you expect a Christian girl inconvenience herself to cover her hair when she is not willing to do so?
So you want us to bend for you in your turf and bend for you in our turf? Which kind of wicked person expects such a thing?
Why would Catholic nuns be expected to remove their habit; are they not fellow Christians?
Abi a Muslim university where hijab is the standard would ask a burka wearer to remove it? Are they not co-muslims?
Johans2023: Christianity is so weak. The Muslims will rather die than allow anybody to break their laws. What causes Jos crisis was because a Christian girl passed on the roads where Muslims are praying. In Zaria they preferred to die than allowing the chief of Army staff to pass. If Christianity is as fanatically as the Muslims these country would have since been burn down.
It is not weakness; we are called to follow peace with all men.
Besides, we do not need to fight for our God; He fights for us.
ayinba1: Same hijab that Mary, mother of Jesus (peace be upon them) wore?
Wow, God is really patient!
Abeg Abeg, Mary did not wear hijab.
There is nowhere in the Bible that calls for any face covering. You cover your hair/head when praying in places of worship which is what hats, scarves, berets, turbans etc are for.