₦airaland Forum

opamoses1:
Congrats to the headless mob. They now have people that would direct them instead of them roaming around aimlessly like sheeps without a sheperd.

I think they are primarily interested in no 4

seunmsg:
Should the PM of s country like UK be putting out a tweet like this? I think somethings are better left unsaid by some certain people. World leaders should encourage university education and not publicly discourage it. In my opinion, I think this is an irresponsible statement from the PM.

its actually a very responsible and factual statement.

I never liked the old new anthem. I don’t know why people are unduly sensitive over “native” and “tribe”. Do we not have tribes, do we not have native lands?

This is why you avoid people with bad or non existent home training when choosing a life partner both as a husband and as a wife.

Dybala11:
This your argument no follow at all. Why not sack those workers you see as non-performing instead of this your narrative, you think the government can do without those workers??
Your nightclub narrative has nothing in common with the subject of discussion at all. You're providing excuses for government's frivolous spending while blaming the underpaid workers, all the best for you abeg.

The same Labour unions will protest their sacking. That’s why the civil service is over bloated. For instance, how many workers are employed by the refineries and doing no work, going on training , collecting salaries for over a decade?

The government frivolous spending also includes paying idle workers. Workers that do no work and those that do little work. Just go to any government agency and observe the No of workers doing nothing.

BelieveAfrica:
The greatest evil against our traditional institution is the meddling of Politicians. They bastardise it and make it a tool for their selfish use.
What happens, if in another 4 years another governor comes and revert back to the repealed law?

Know your history. Your grandfather sells your family land. The new owner allows him to stay on it to help him watch over it. It is no longer your family land despite the fact that you are allowed to stay on it. You are now a tenant not a landlord and stay at the pleasure of your landlord. You are parading yourself as a landlord on land that no longer belongs to you.


The farce with Nigerian traditional institutions is the parading themselves as Kings with a kingdom when if fact their ancestors were conquered and defeated by the British and only retained the title of Kings to fool the locals whereas they became employees of the State.

But for the fact that the British were understaffed and needed them to help administer the locals their ancestors would have been banished like they are banishing Kings and Emirs today.

It’s one thing to set minimum wage, it is another to implement it. I read the other day that there is a state in the North that pays N7000 minimum wage years after the N30,000 minimum wage was introduced.

Babysho:
And so you choose to insult me like a female child would, the irony. Well, I could say the same words to you and even add any adjective that describes foolishness because you took time to quote me without any rebuttal.

Sometimes one makes a post so childish, ignorant, so totally out of touch and firmly in the realm of fantasy that a proper response is not merited.

Babysho:
You guys don't see that everything is interconnected. If the govt allows 500k minimum wage, most likely they (senators/govs etc) had to reduce their salaries, benefits and budget for infrastructure and all that to pay salaries in the public sector.
This means that these political elites will no longer be able to afford France for healthcare and that would mean lacing their boots to improve healthcare in Nigeria. They would not be able to invite foreign construction companies for inflated quotation and embezzle money, so they'd have to invest in local construction etc etc So you see the pattern? And so new jobs will be created.

And in the private sector, those offloaded in an already overcrowded private sector will begin to find themselves in jobs that have been created from the government, jobs that are actually important for nation development like construction, healthcare etc. And it is in these sectors we should be having billionaires not only from oil.

This would resemble the Japanese economy where there's low corruption and millions are middle/upper class while they have 40 billionaires or so and a few thousand poor people.

But most of your political elites are not dumb. They're actually really smart, they understand class consciousness and they know what a little forgoing will do to the dynamics of Nigeria's inequitable wealth sharing.

I thought this forum was for adults not children?

Justiceganduje:
As a patriot, I pray that God will answer the prayers of the labour unions and also give job to the jobless. Amen.

If you engaged you thinking cap you will realize that minimum wage increases will lead to job loses. It is one thing for government to pay the minimum wage, private sector will just lay off workers if the minimum wage is beyond their means.

I said in a previous post, there are many people who have a job only because the minimum wage is so low. There is a level of wage increase where your employer starts asking if I really need this guy. Trust me many people will lose their jobs if the minimum wage goes above N100k.

Mrshocker:
Hmmm

Lobatan!!

Islie:
https://dailytrust.com/the-many-battles-of-kano-traditional-rulers-with-politicians/#google_vignette

The root of all this is that all Nigerian Kings lost their kingdoms to the British. After which they became employees of the British Govt to help administer the locals because the land was great but they did not have enough personnel. On gaining independence, the Nigerian govt inherited all employees of govt including traditional Kings. You are only a “King” in Nigeria because the govt says so because your their forefathers lost their kingdoms and the governor is your employer.

[quote author=Agadinaagwuofe post=130115923][/quote]I agree and if you read my posts on the matter I said it was only a ruse to obtain an ex-parte order which by definition is temporary and will expire on the 3rd June. It’s just skulduggery. Either 1) the ex parte order will expire 2) the other party will appear and they will have to prove the non existent human rights violation or 3) the case will be dismissed for lack of jurisdiction if they try to delve into chieftancy or traditional ruler mattters.

Akpakomiza2:
I thought you said the federal courts have no part to play here and that the matter won't go anywhere,that is it will end only at the high court.

Federal high court, which is where the injunction was obtained and the subject under discussion. You are just being pedantic because you know what I meant.

Kingship matters are strictly state matters. The federal court of appeal and Supreme Court only come in as appellate courts for the state high court . A federal high court has no jurisdiction over Kingship matters,they don’t exist under federal law. Any matter relating to kingship has to originate at the state high court.

Akpakomiza2:
Lol.shoukd I quote several traditional matters/chieftaincy matters that have been settled by the apex court sir? Are you aware of the Anthony Ani vs Obong of Calabar matter that was decided by the apex court last year?

But what was the path to the court of appeal? I am sure if you examine, there was no federal court involved. State court. to court of appeal to Supreme Court. No federal court involved. Federal high court has no business with kingship matters.

legallysly:
The Federal High Court is limited in its jurisdiction to the items enumerated under Section 251 of the 1999 Constitution.

I fail to see where Justice Liman derives jurisdiction (in a matter regarding the Kano State House of Assembly) from.

He doesn’t, the matter presented before him was human rights. On that basis he granted ex parte injunction. Ofcourse ex-parte means the other party was not present. Ex parte injunction either expires or other party appears and states his case. At which point the case is thrown out because federal court has no jurisdiction over kingship matters and there is no rights violation.

Akpakomiza2:
You are right which means they won't get to appeal or supreme court abi

They won’t get anywhere.

An exparte order is a tool of abuse of court process by rascal lawyers. Ex-parte means the other party is not present. Exparte orders are temporary orders pending the presence of the other party to present his side of the story.

For example I am your landlord, you haven’t paid rent for years, you go to court to obtain an exparte order prevent me your landlord from entering my property. The judge will ask why? You claim I violated your human rights, the judge grants you the order pending when he can hear from me.

The exparte order either expires or I come to court and the real matter will be heard or dismissed. In the case of Kano, either the exparte expires or when they get to court it will be struck out because there is no human rights violation and kingship matters is not under the jurisdiction of a federal court.

bixton:
You are really mistaken.
Do you really think a High Court Judge will assent to a matter that is not within the jurisdiction of the court. Do you really understand what that even means to any Judge who does that as a career public officer?

Like I said, not only do you not know the law, you cannot read.

The injunction was made based on human rights. It was also an ex-parte order (I am sure you don’t know what that means)

It will be thrown out. No federal law or the constitution recognizes the existence of any King in Nigeria.

Akpakomiza2:
I know the law more than you sir by far.sanusi should have respected himself and stayed away.

Federal courts have no jurisdiction over traditional/customary matters. They are not recognized under Federal law. You can only preside over something that is under your purview.

If you knew what you were talking about, I was expecting you to say the injunction was made based on violation of human rights which is a federal matter. But that was just legal skulduggery to obtain an injunction which will not hold water.

If you knew the law you would have mentioned the above.

Akpakomiza2:
The matter happened within kano

If you don’t know the law, say you don’t know the law.

Federal courts have no jurisdiction over traditional/customary matters. They are not recognized under Federal law. You can only preside over something that is under your purview.

If you knew what you were talking about, I was expecting you to say the injunction was made based on violation of human rights which is a federal matter. But that was just skulduggery to obtain an injunction which will not hold water.

Akpakomiza2:
They still have jurisdiction

Based on?

Kingship and traditional rulers are a state matter, Kings are not recognized under federal law. What is the business of the federal high court?

Georgry:


Finally official.

Congratulations SLS.

Ganduje was so power drunk that he detrone a king just because he spoke truth to power.

Every King is an employee of the state governor. Just as one governor sacked one King and appointed another , another governor has sacked one and appointed another.

clearcrystal:
Ha
Governors are the main problem in this Country.
I'm happy for SLS but it's obvious that the power governors have can make them decide anyone's faith in a state, this should be checked.

Firstly it is fate not faith. Secondly all kings are employees of the governor. They serve at the pleasure of the governors because their forefathers lost their Kingdoms to the British.

I have said this many times. Nigerian Kings ceased to exist in the real sense when the British conquered them. They are just ceremonial employees of state governments.

They are not even recognized in the constitution.

I love SLS but he forgot he is an employee, forgot the Kano empire of his ancestors is no more, got involved in the politics of his employer. With due respect to our traditional kingdoms, they were conquered by the British, once your Kingdom is conquered that is the end, you serve your new master. But for the fact that the British did not have enough personnel to administer the country and kept them in place as a form of indirect rule, they wouldn’t exist today.

arithletics:
But is apc that keeps mentioning the man's name. If they stop talking about Obi no one will hear the name Obi again

It is good strategy to feed and massage Obi’s ego. The more he is in the headlines the more he believes, the more he believes he can win the more he insists on running as president, the more her insists the more the opposition will not be able to come together leading to a repeat of 2023 split votes.

So long as Obi is running for president, Tinubu’s second term is assured.

Obi is a boy!

d142475:
Kenyamo has been impressive as a minister, but his response shows that this desperation to restore flights to Dubai is for the benefit of the elites, who have invested our stolen wealth in that city, hence the need for a direct flight to Dubai.

Elites have access to Dubai and still travel to Dubai despite the ban. Have you not seen pictures of Dino in Dubai since the Ban?

If you go to a country and you engage in illegal activities, it’s no surprise your people and all others associated with you are denied entry.

Chidoka should instead caution his people who are embarrassing Nigeria all over the world with their illegal activities.

jmoore:
If your brain sees it at justifying, then it is pathetic. Learn to comprehend!

POINT: Condemn bad and stop inserting ridiculous statement that they are disgracing Nigeria. They disgraced themselves, not Nigeria .

I know it takes you light years to comprehend something. So read my comment 1 million times so you can understand it.

When you are treated shabbily abroad then you will know it is Nigeria they disgraced. They have not disgraced themselves because you will not hear their people condemn them for their actions. If my family, friends, community etc do not condemn me for bad behaviour in whose eyes have I disgraced myself?

This is you condemning the Chinese for the actions of 1 person. You didn’t say this man you said the Chinese!

jmoore:
The Chinese are misbehaving because the army, police, traditional rulers in those areas are enabling the bad behaviour.

nlfpmod.

This is you conndnimg all police/DSS for the actions of a few

jmoore:
Police/DSS are into kidnapping.

Things fall apart! You cannot build something on nothing!

carzeem1:
Who is going to pay for the tuition, same workers earning 33k/ month?
Frankly, the government should take responsibility for the galloping inflation and respond appropriately with commensurate wage. Thier horrible decisions/ politics and policies should not be burdened on the poor populace.

Did you read what I wrote?

With due respect this mentality is why we are where we are.

We can’t afford subsidies but we say no you can’t increase price of petrol so we continue until we are broke and there is no money for subsidies. Meanwhile money for roads we have burnt in smoke.

We can’t afford cheap electricity but we strike if they dare increase price of electricity meanwhile the people that generate the electricity we can’t pay them and in the end we don’t have reliable electricity.

We do t want to pay for university tuition but somehow we expect good lecturers to want to work in a university where he is poorly paid and be motivated.

I mean what is wrong with us? I have offered the solution. Nigerians are paying tens of thousand of pounds and dollars to obtain university degrees abroad. Such people will jump at the opportunity to pay even N5m in Nigeria if they know the degree will be of good quality. If the true cost of a degree is say N2m, you can charge them 3,4,5m and they will gladly pay. The excess will be used to fund the education of deserving poor students who can’t afford the fees.

It is because of your insistence on paying N60k that those who know the value of a good degree have abandoned Nigerian public universities and the result is you pay N60k for a degree but the degree is worthless. Govt has no money shout all you like and the people who have money to subsidize your education (those paying thousands abroad) are not going to join you in a University with N60k fees.

If the cost of good university education is 2m charge 4m. Those who are paying 20m abroad will gladly bring their children back and pay. The extra 2m will cover the fees for a poor student.

carzeem1:
Your points are valid however, the Nigeria being unproductive and unskilled is entirely as a result of bad leadership and horrible policies which has affected education, transportation, healthcare social services to name a few.
It's a case of no where to hide anymore for the government.

Also, Graft, nepotism etc has reduced the Nigeria ab

2 separate issues. And while ultimately the failure of society is the failure of govt, very often govt is hampered by society and the failure of govt is a failure of society. You only have to look at our universities. I will reproduce below a point I made earlier on the subject.

casualobserver:
It is the people that refuse to pay more than N60k for university tuition back home that are causing all this nonsense.

If tuition was allowed to rise to N1-2m back home, Most of the money and students going into western universities will stay in Nigeria, our lecturers would be paid better, the quality of our degrees will rise, our forex will be preserved and the poor student will actually get a quality degree instead of his worthless N60k degree. A portion of the money from the fees of those who can afford to pay N1-2m will be used to subsidize the poor just like our foreign fees subsidize home students abroad.

But this will never happen because they will protest.