₦airaland Forum

lexy2014:
What was the way igbos weren't getting in the 1960s that prompted the coup of 1966?

You again? Go and read your history and for the umpteenth time stop asking me daft questions.

nairalanda1:
Buhari supporters nearly brought the country down in 2011, and there were threats during the other years too. (Sharia law implementation was a way of telling OBJ to better not leave some people behind).

It isn't just Igbos. Assuming Tinubu lost, all the APC supporters would have been hailing the coup by now.(See Niger, and before them Mauritania. Oppositon comes and backs army rule all of a sudden).

Otherwise, your post makes good points.

Check it the history of Ibos alliance with the center. Whenever they feel they are not getting their way with the center the Ibos either sustain their protests and make life difficult for the ruling govt throughout its tenure orthey stage a coup. That’s what the history of Nigeria shows. 1966 despite being in alliance with the center when they weren’t getting their way they staged a coup. Shagari govt, despite being in alliance with NPN they tried to make life difficult for Shagari wirh Ezeoke who was speaker at the time defecting to NPP as part of that attempt. We know their propaganda since 2015. They will. Either make life difficult for you or try to topple you which is why our friend Pierocash is disposed to coups.

Whenever r they feel they have alliance with the center even as junior partners there is peace, otherwise sustained tension. Others will protest and move on waiting for their turn….not the Ibos….they must make life difficult for you or burn the house down. The Ibo man must see himself to have won or you can’t have peace.

Pierocash:
You were trying to sound sane until you mentioned ibos. The usual tribal mantra they churn out once they lose ground In any constructive argument.

You are not honest, if you actually lived under any military regime like you posited then you lied to yourself. I gave you a vivid reply as regard human liberty under military compared civilian regimes by pointing you ibb must go protest compared to endsars and the outcome of both. But maybe you lack comprehension and couldn't decipher it

You talked about just your friend. Go and read tales of woes by people who their loved ones were picked up by police and till today no one knows what happened to them. Did you read the reports of various incidents of police brutality and evil meted out to people during the panel setup by various states of which no justice to so many of them till date. Such evil never happened under military government. Or is it the case of executive disobedience to court orders you want to talk about under civilian governments? Even Abacha obeyed some court orders during his time, but no, the so-called civilian governments disobey court orders more than militaries. If you truly lived under any military government but still continue with this your assertions, it means you are living in self deceit. And you never answered my question about what the civilians built after I listed you few of many infrastructures built by military juntas. Reason being that, you really have nothing to point but just decided to go rogue on your submission.

I am in no way agitating for a military coup ,But my point is that it will definitely be inevitable with the way things are right now in our land.

Just like your previous dribble, you are posting nonsense. I mentioned Ibo because I went through your posts. You people have a penchant for always wanting things your way and bringing down the house if you don’t get it. It must be said. Every time the Ibos are not in concert with the Centre they bring or attempt to bring the house down. It’s also what you do anywhere you reside.

The coups going on in French speaking Africa are a fight for true independence. If you are knowledgeable you will know that French speaking West Africa are independent only on paper. It is not the same as the goings on in NIgeria or Ghana or other Anglophone countries.

Your issue isn’t governance but your ego and penchant to always win and dominate others. It is a trait that makes is difficult for you to accept defeat no matter how fair the contest. It is the trait that makes you successful in business but also the same trait that means you don’t mix well with others and so there is always conflict when enough of you accumulate in an area. Human relations is different from business. In business you can bully your competition and wipe them out. In human relations you can’t always win, human relations is about compromise….a trait severely lacking amongst the majority of your people which is why you never do well in politics outside your region. I am at least glad to see people like Umahi who truly understand politics is about compromise and trust.

Disappearing under the military is different from disappear under a civil government, at least in a civilian govt your people can make noise and raise alarm.

Finally it is not tribal mantra, it is a real thing. Why are you always the ones in conflict with everyone else?

Pierocash:
I am very sure you are still a boy in in his 20s.

I lived unde three different military juntas in Nigeria here- Ibb, Abacha, Abdusalami. I even lived under Buhari but I can't relate how his regime was because I was a kid.

Now let me educate you, the kind of human right violations that has happened and still happening under civilian governments are worse than military. The police and Sara brutality is worse and such never happened under military government.

Tell me what changed in since civilians took over? All the standing infrastructures you see today were built by the military juntas- Gowon Estate, Jakande Estate, Festac, abesan estate etc, refinery, third mainland bridge etc , were built by the military government. I no many roads in Lagos that are still standing today that the elders told us were built by Yakubu Gowon. Please , tell us what the civilian governments built-nothing.

I witnessed ibb must go protest that forced ibb out of power, he stepped down , yet no one person was shot or brutalized. Ordinary endears, the death toll is still counting.

Civilian governments are worse

My friend I was around during Gowon era when we sang “to keep Nigeria one” in school so I have witnessed every military govt in Nigeria.

You are clearly unintelligent enough to understand the difference between military and development and the military and civil liberties.

My post (if you have any intelligence) was about civil liberties in a military era.

Military govts may have certain advantages for economic development in a multiethnic diverse environment because precisely because they rule by decree and can violate your rights and civil liberties and do what is needed to get the job done. The problem is eventually the nature of the African beast always come up and they become intoxicated with power. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. In the end they become as corrupt as the civilians without any checks and balances except another coup and the citizens have few in any civil liberties.

I have a friend who was picked up under Abacha for about 5 months, till today no one really knows what happened. I guess he was so scared to relate his experience. I also remember my father having to respray his cherished green Mercedes because the military decreed civilians can’t drive green cars. WTF?

So feel free to go on with your nonsense glorifying the military. We know at heart you Ibos are not democrats. Others know every democratic cicvilian government no matter how bad has a fixed term. No one who has experienced military govts in Nigeria wants a return to that era no matter the deficiencies of civilian administrations. Except they are promoting a selfish agenda.

Kalatium:
Gone are the days when boys were real boys as I look back in nostalgia.

Below were rules of football when we were kids, damn it was fun

1. The fat kid was always the goalkeeper.

2.The owner of the ball decides who plays .

3. If you didn't participate in repairing the ball you were given a match ban.

4. The guy who's never picked was to fetch the ball from the trees or bush when it got stuck, under the car or tunnel to play in the next game.

5. When the owner of the ball got annoyed, game over.

6. When you hit your toes against a stone and you notice blood, you quickly cover the area of injury with sand as a form of first aid and play continues.

7. You can't dribble the owner too much, this may lead him to stop the game by taking away his ball.

8. No matter how many goals you scored, the winner would be determined by the last team to score.

9.No offsides.

10.There is no referee.

11.There is fault only if the fault is serious .

12.The 2 best players can not play in the same team so everyone chooses their players.

13.If you are chosen last it is a humiliation and you will remain in defense.

14.If there is a penalty the goalkeeper is replaced by the best player of the team.

15.The best player on the field is always in the same team as the owner of the ball.

16.There is always a house where if the ball fell there, we knew that the game was over. so be careful !!

17. To distinguish the teams, one of the teams take off their shirts .

18.Game over when its dark and we can barley see the ball, we all disperse in groups teasing one another until we get home to face another punishment from our parents.

Africa is our home. Childhood was fun.

So on point!!! Particularly 2,5, 12-15, 16 & 18! So so true!!!

By the way I was always goal keeper, I was crap and I knew it. Every game started with a call for “2 keepers” it was the only way I played 😂. I was equally a crap keeper!!!!

Pierocash:
The first true attribute of democracy is the ability to elect leaders of our choice,

The first true attribute of democracy is the ability to accept when you have lost an election.

While it is true that many of the coups going on in Africa are a result of the bad policies of the government, there is a difference between disaffection with a government with bad policies and disaffection because you lost an election. They are not the same. Only those who have never lived in a military regime will pray for military intervention. All this nonsense you people are posting on social media, you can’t try it in a military regime. You will be picked up and never seen again. Do you think DSS dont have the IP address of the device and ISP you are posting from? Did you not register with your ISP orSIM card with a name and/or NIN? It’s because you are in a civilian regime you can say what you want, true or false and get away with it.

People lost elections when you were in pseudo power in 1999, 2003, 2007, 2011 periods when rigging was blatant and at it’s peak. They didn’t bring the country down and bully everybody. Why whenever you don’t get what you want, you always want to burn the house down, like you did in 1966-1970?

Those who cannot accept the results of a democratic election are themselves the ones undeserving of democracy.

Maximeo:
Shut up

You wrote nonsense

Tinubu shouldn't have fraudulent like Obi who lived in UK and didn't forge or commit crimes

CSU should be transparent else they would be dragged

If they don't admit Nigerians because they're dragged for refusing to disclose information about Tinubu then it's Tinubu & CSU faults.

Stop supporting a criminal politician

The real problem here is you lost an election because you are by nature disagreeable. Since the election ended nothing you have said involves showing you had more votes that either Atiku or Tinubu. Instead you are trying to discredit the winner on any and every including imaginary and false technicalities and propaganda.

The fact that your attempts do not involve proving how you got the highest votes in the election says everything.

Tinubu is president because of this same disagreeable behavior, the same behavior that caused Atiku, Obi and Kwakwanso not to present a united front. I repeat APC had no business winning this election. They won because of the same behavior you are exhibiting. Let me remind you that Tinubu got 8.7m votes, Atiku, Obi and Kwakwanso together got over 14m. TAPC consolited compromised and appeased their members while PDP did exactly what you are doing…turned it into a public fight of if I don’t get it, I will spoil it for you. Well you have spoilt it for yourselves, you snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. This has been your MO since before independence…….You never learn!

The election was PDP’s to lose but “It must be me or I spoil it for everybody” is why Tinubu is president, your ego has always been and always will be your downfall. If Obi had stayed in PDP and delayed his ambition, he may have become president one day but as it stands he will never become president. That possibility has been shut forever. The Tinubu who is president today delayed his ambition to build trust. Atiku has been in politics since 1992 but you don’t want to pay your dues and earn trust. You don’t want to build trust you can’t bully people to the presidency.

ExudeLoveToAll:
You can't approbate and reprobate at the same time.

There is no reaction without actions which are equal in magnitude but opposite in direction so said Newton's third law of motion.

If you want equity come with your hands clean.

Nigerian leaders have spoilt the name of this country, what these folks are doing to reverse that trajectory. You won't see that because you are apologetic to the government.

Take your own advice.

what you people are doing is like someone having a fight with a family member and then going out reposrting his relative to any and everybody. Whether true or not it does not matter and even if they humor you and listen people do not care about your family issues.. This is evidenced by the fact that for all the letter writing by Ngozi, Tinubu is the only African president invited by Biden less than 3 months in office. You tell me hat does that say about how they see Ngozi? The end result is that your family is forever damaged by all the family secrets whether true or not and the the dragging the family name into the gutter.

One day you or your child will want to marry and they will say dont marry anyone from that family. Meanwhile the people that are saying this have their own issues but they dont drag their matters in public to outsiders. Same way one day Tinubu will leave the presidency and maybe one day your person will be in government but the image problem and damage your current campaign has done will affect both your candidate and in particular all Nigerians. Or do you think Chicago state University will be favourably disposed to admitting Nigerians? They wont say it officially but trust me no! A border line Nigerian who would ordinarily have been admitted may be denied admission for someone from another country as a result of this...and that person maybe someone connected to you.

Apart from the lasting damage these people do not care!

These shameless people are just embarrassing Nigeria up and down. Tommorow they will complain foreigners disrespect us.

PDP in crisis, LP in leadership crisis, even NNpp in leadership crisis. what do they all have in common? .....they are all ex PDP men. They are not democrats but people who assumed power via impunity and they know no other way. it must be their way or they cause trouble. their failure to understand that democracy is compromise not impunity is why they will be in opposition for a long time. It is why APC won an election it had no business winning. Their inate inabilty to compromise, their penchant for impunity. The same mentality being showed by Obidients who lets face it are ex-pdp.

taylor88:
Theres no peace for the wicked

that's why you clearly dont have peace

taylor88:


We will bully Chicago till they do the right thing
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I am glad you know this is bullying. Bullies are insecure weak people

taylor88:


This single evil act from Chicago is ruining lives of 250 million Nigerians

This is our future

Don’t tell me to concede a fraudulent election

Government determines 70% of her citizens life and wellbeing that’s why we won’t leave any stone unturned

Close your eyes and add 8yrs of Tinubus administration (if he didn’t leave us with shettima tho) to your age and what life holds for you after 8yrs of what you suffered from Buhari

Open your eyes and you’ll understand what I’m saying

You are not a democrat or you do not understand democracy. You do not deserve a democratic country. your opinion is your opinion, your vote is your vote but in a democracy the will of the majority will always prevail, if you dont like the direction of the majority you are free to leave the country. That is the essence of democracy, like it or not.

this guy is such an embarrassment to men. I can understand why women like him but in my experience women who follow his advice have problems finding or keeping good men.

taylor88:
Dangote is more evil than Buhari and Tinubu combined

This man’s greed of monopoly is out of this world

Dangote is the real problem of Nigeria

Hushpuppi no launder money pass Dangote

He’s worth $13billion but only his refinery is $19billion

Don’t come here to tell me about loan

80% of that refinery money doesn’t belong to dangote

Na all these evil politicians get am

You are clearly daft. If I have zero and I borrow 1m to buy a car, am I worth 1m or zero?

If I have 13m and I borrow 10m and use some of my money to build a house for 19m, how much am I worth? If your answer is not 13m you have wasted your time in school. Unless that house appreciates or I start to pay off my loan with rental income from that property, I am still only worth 13m because the rest of the value of the 19m house is debt.

for him to have spent 20 years, he must have killed somebody….or convicted of drug trafficking for the second time.

Tinubu should be wary of the US, they are ALWAYS up to no good!! They will tie you in and half way start demanding you accept gays and same sex marriage or vote with whatever resolutions they want at the UN etc.

Just look at what they are doing to halt the rise of China, the US will never be a partner in any scheme that will lead to empowerment of Nigeria. Any partnership with the US is ultimately Servitude.

The US is the definition of the devil….dine if you must but with a very long spoon.

Why. Can’t they go to epe resort, Obudu, Ogere etc? This is shameful.

which law do we enforce in this country? Besides do you want to start a religious war? How many children are you going to limit the Muslim with many wives and ofcourse our pentecostal pastors will start their own saying it is a war against Christians.

LagosPrince:
The yorubas were made to believe that the Igbos are enemies of Nigeria by the northerners , but here are the real enemies of Nigeria stealing away the resources of this country with reckless abandon

The southern region are not wise

abeg stop trying to divert. All the problems of this country can be traced to the ibos. Was the civil war not a fight for the control of oil that didnt belong to the ibos? Were you not the ones that insisted on no referendum, were you not the ones that created unitary govt? Were yiou not the ones that abolished resource control? Everybody knows Ibos are a problem ask them in ghana, South Africa, Thailand Indonesia, India etc. We dont need Northerners to tell us. You cant have peace with the ibos in your midst unless he has his way and his way is to dominate and control others. Everybody now knows this we dont need others to tell us. Yes the Northerners were the 1st to see it but the SS saw it during the civil war and now the eyes of the SW has opened.

Nigeria is largely a country made of of people with “Uncle Tom” colonial slave mentality. To the majority of Nigerians anything western is good.

If we had any brains as a country we should be decoupling from the west.

That road is a testament to poor vision and planning. They have segregated 1 lane of the existing 3 for busses and we know how buses break down anyhow. Meaning the buses will eventually find themselves on the remaining 2 lanes.

Now as for the remaining 2 lanes, there is no hard shoulder and again we know how cars break down anyhow meaning the 2 lanes will effectively become single lane in many parts. There is no where to go but park on the so called expressway if a car or bus breaks down. The bottom line is that road was poorly planned and will be a nightmare to navigate. It will end up like all the myriad of “modern” bus stops constructed all over Lagos that no buses use.

When you plan a transport project (or indeed any project) you just don’t copy foreign methods. You either factor in the behavior and peculiarities of your people or you enforce compliance. Lagos state unfortunately does neither. They neither plan for the Nigerian psyche or enforce compliance so all these projects fail.

Every time I pass that road I think to myself who is the idiot who thought this was a good idea to divide a 3 lane express way into 2 without hard shoulders or a means of evacuating your vehicle if it breaks down. If your car breaks down on that road you have nowhere to go but park on the expressway.

You only have to navigate the completed sections to see the problems that are coming.

Caphive:
Nepotism continues

Do you know what nepotism means…illiterate!!!

Clearly Wike and Umahi are not in Abuja for jokes!!!

82% of Africa…when there is Egypt and South Africa? I don’t believe this stat. I think Nigeria’s figures are bloated because many Nigerians have multiple lines. In most other countries, people only have 1 mobile line…..because that’s all they need!

Obidients are really shameless people. Your mates are appointing cabinet, dealing with ECOWAS/Niger. The others who didn’t win are licking their wounds, it is which wedding, congratulations on Twitter or fake assault we are hearing from Obidients….anything to be in the news!

Drama queen.

naijaboy756:
Way to go

What is 6 years for a road? That’s a poor standard. 15 years should be the minimum.

You dont leak security reports! DSS have excesses, we know but on this one they are 100% right.

successmatters:
Your opinion, not mine.

Facts on ground.

successmatters:
It will be a mistake of immense proportion if Obi accepts this merger, those two are not to be trusted, they are too power drunk and will stifle Obi and his ideas. Obi should find sharp minds from the North, south west and south south to improve his appeal.

Understand this: Any party with Obi as presidential candidate is doomed to failure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhXyjnbl8lA

Listen to the Italian prime minister on the atrocities of France in French speaking Africa.
This is not our war.

happney65:
The PDP is a very very useless party. For 8years they allowed the APC to get away with all sorts of nonesense and all they did was to be releasing one silly press release once in a while.

The height of their insensitivity was even giving a Northern their ticket after the North has served for a whopping 8years.

Happy what the G-5 did to them on the basis of equity.

They can go fvck themselves.

Come 2027,it is still the turn of the south. If they want to win,they should give Obi their ticket with kwankwso as vice.

If Atiku contests again and wins their presidential ticket again, It is still a Lose Lose for them

Useless party with an extremely useless set of people

People need to understand the origins of PDP. They were anointed to power by the military without working for it and they used that power to rig themselves into remaining in power. As soon as rigging became more difficult, they started to falter.

PDP is a party born out of impunity, anyhowness, rigging, Indiscipline and being handed victory on a platter. They have never had to work for power so they dont know how to organize themselves or how to be a truly democratic political party. They are not by nature democrats.

Kukutente23:
What nonsense are you saying? No wonder you think I'm daft. I'm beginning to think I'm conversing with a nitwit.

Nnaji preformed well as minister of power especially compared with fashola. Same with borishade under whose supervision so many gas powered plants were built. Your ignorance is also clear from not knowing that NOI is a trained economist.

The most laughable part of the nonsense you wrote is claiming ministers are only involved in implementing policies formulated by government. May i ask who makes up the government then? A minister even has powers to make bye-laws in his area of coverage. Yet you're ignorant self thinks a special adviser has more clout than a minister. A minister acts directly as if he were the president in his area. So by extension, what you're saying is that the president's job is to implement policies formulated by "government". Such arrant crap.

I hope when you want to build your house. After the architect has drawn up a design, you'll go and give it to a bank manager to help you implement under the guise that technocrats are only involved in policy formulation and not implementation.
What a dunce!!

I don’t think you are daft, I know for a fact you are daft!