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nne3870: No offence intended pls but i just feel its dirty to engage in mouthaction. One can still get satisfaction with different styles and positions naa. I just get scared thinking of this whole thing.

That's your opinion....you can't expect couples to refrain from styles they're comfortable with simply because you feel disgusted about it.

That's exactly what that pastor is doing.

Its wrong.

jenny78: I went to church yesterdy and my pastor preached about sex and marriage.He said MouthAction is wrong in marraige.He said our mouth is for food only and MouthAction does cause mouth cancer.
Do you agree with my pastor?

I hate it when pastors preach sermons based on what they feel.

What a married coupe decides to do with their bodies is none of his business. Also whatever sex style and position they partake isn't a sin.....they're legally married, therefore their marriage is blessed by God.

Ubenedictus: first isnt revelation 4 future events only? How can it b talking abt d birth of christ?

And wen did isreal flee to the wilderness?
Pls provide scripture that depict isreal as d moda of christ!

The revelation showed a brief explanation of what happened during the birth of christ....and what would happen in the future.

The tribulation, and the coming of the anti christ.

Vicjustice: OK, Barbaric Nigerians

Barbaric people are also all over the world....but that of Nigeria is nothing to write home about.

Ubenedictus: An anti-catholic thead just ended and among d points raised by my protestant friends is rev 12, many were interested in telling me who is woman is but no one was interested the answering my question "who is the male child?" ofcourse i blive d key to know wu d woman is, is the male child. So i decided to bring the question to the public: in rev 12, who is the male child??

The woman, representing Israel

The dragon, representing Satan

The man-child, referring to Jesus

The angel Michael, head of the angelic host

The offspring of the woman, representing Gentiles who come to faith in the Tribulation

The beast out of the sea, representing the antichrist

The beast out of the earth, representing the false prophet who promotes the antichrist.

Are you now clear on the whole issue...

frosbel: leave us to put our house in order.

Go do some atheist stuff

Yea...he should leave

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carefreewannabe: They're doing fine because they can sew and do hair. You serious?
Why do you assume I haven't visited an orphanage? And why do you assume I haven't had a baby in my arms? I did have and still I hate nobody.

What's wrong with you, and why do you seem to have this hatred for orphanage kids....do you expect them to be driving in jeeps?

In case you don't know...most kids who have parental up bringing are worse than them.

Let's me educate you a bit cos I'm perceiving your seeming ignorance...children who grow up in orphanage homes are more disciplined that most brats that grow under a roof...with their folks

In an orphanage home, you're disciplined for every wrong action you make...most of them have very little opportunities in life, therefore they make good use of the few that comes across their way.

Do you know how many fools that eat their parents food till they above 30years...no hope, no future...stop sounding irritating...orphanage children aren't as bad as you think they are.

Truth is every child destiny lies in his hands...

carefreewannabe: If you were well informed you would know that MANY people who grow up in orphanages suffer from mental diseases in later life! It's because an orphanage CAN NEVER replace the love of a parent and it's because these children lack a lot.

Wrong...I've seen parents whose children live in abject poverty they have all kinds of diseases...infact their lives are worse than those kids in the orphanage homes.

carefreewannabe: An orphanage can satisfy their basic needs but they will always ask themselves, why is it that my parents didn't want me? This question will have a bad influence on their self-esteem. So don't tell me adoption is such a great option.

Wrong...how many average parents in Nigeria can you say love their children?

Go to the crime section here on Nairaland and see what parents do to their children....I came across a story on paper where a mother flogged her child to death because of N200...would you call that love?

There are good parents and there are bad parents....so stop making sound as if all parents are good and lovely...there are some that are worse than demons.

I couldn't see mine

carefreewannabe: It's your human right to have an opinion.

Have you ever visited an orphanage?

I have...and mind you most of them are doing fine.

The was one we visited on valentine's day last year...(Faith orphanage) my self and some of my friends...one of the girls (a teenager) there told us that she wrote jamb, I was very happy for her.

And in case you don't know...they're not all bad...most of them are crafty, they can sew, some plait hairs weavons and all that....

Here in Anambra state, the governor encourages residents of the state to visit orphanages more often....and many people do that...so they're not as malnourished and hungry as you seem to think.

I'm sure that if you hold one of the babies there in your arms for up to 10 minutes you'll kill any one that supports abortion.

carefreewannabe: Crazy Man, I am wondering what you would do if YOUR WIFE, God forbid, was r.aped and what kind of a father you would be for this child.

In as much as I don't pray for such evil to befall me....but if it does, I would accept what happened and live with the consequence.

I would never be a party to murder.

ItsModella: How would you define murder?

You don't have to tell me to define murder....I believe we both know the meaning of murder.

And abortion if you ask me, falls in that categorey...

lalaosky: both crazyman,obino,uju and carefreewannabe are right imho...crazyman and obino are trying to save the life of the unborn baby while uju and carefree are trying to say it in the way a räped female will feel...trust me, its not easy...you wont know it feels till y'all find yourselves in the condition

am a christain who doesn't support abortion but putting myself in a räped victim's shoe, i will abort the child.its not fair but it's not easy waking up to see the product of your pain

I think its high time you start reading your bible properly...God doesn't support murder...and if you claim to be a christian, you should know that encourage murder is a sin.

[quote author=Mynd_44]Them go church. Dem dey come[/quote]Lmao

Obinoscopy: I laugh at some of my esteemed fellow nlers and their comments. Do you think having an abortion would do the trick of removing the horrific r.ape event? No! You're merely sweeping the dirt under the carpet.

If you kill the child after r.ape, you're haunted by two demons: r.ape demon and murder demon. But if you keep the child, you faced with only one demon: r.ape demon.

So the choice is yours

Well said...I just hope people would reason with us...abortion is not as easy as most people think..

Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinions....

You stated your conclusion, now I would state mine....

Now you would ask..."Shouldn't the woman who is r.aped be able to have an abortion?"

There are various reasons why abortion is not the answer.

The woman who has been r.aped has undergone a terrible trauma and injustice. She needs care, she needs love...

Will an abortion help her? First of all, the abortion will not un-r.ape the woman.

The tragedy has happened and nothing can change the past. Second, abortion brings a trauma of its own.

To see abortion as a magic wand that brings relief but no pain is to ignore the pain of countless women who suffer for years and decades after abortion.

I know of women who have been raped and then had abortions, and are in counseling not for the rape but for the abortion! In rape, the trauma is "Someone hurt me." In abortion, the trauma is "I hurt and killed someone else -- my child." That brings even more grief.

Why is rape wrong? Because someone attacks the body of an innocent person. Why is abortion wrong? Because someone attacks the body of an innocent person. That is why both rape and abortion should be rejected.

If you care about the woman who is raped, I care for her also and I also care about the child who is conceived. So why can't we love them both? Why can't we protect them both?

A rape that results in pregnancy directly involves three people: the rapist, the victim, and the child.

The victim should be helped, and the rapist should be punished. But to say the child should be killed is to punish the wrong person.

Suppose your father committed a terrible crime and the police came to your home, arrested you, and had you sentenced to death? The unfairness of that is obvious. Yet that is the same unfairness that occurs if a child conceived by rape is aborted.

Ponder on this and thanks for your time.....

carefreewannabe: 1. Who told you I have never consoled a victim of rape?

And no doubt....you told her to kill the baby..without thinking of giving the poor child a chance to live.

carefreewannabe: 2. YOU said someone who wasn't r.aped shouldn't talk. Why are you still talking?

Then in that case we should both keep shut.

carefreewannabe: 3. Bold: Have seen TWO mothers who experienced EXACTLY this.

Really...maybe you should do a little search on steve jobbs...

If his teenage mother didn't give him up for adoption, you probably wouldn't have know anything called ipad and ipod.

Before you go about preaching your murderous crusade...put into consideration the future of that child and ask yourself, if its right to punish this innocent baby.

carefreewannabe: If you haven't been molested, shut your mouth. Your own advice.

Call me heartless, it's more heartless to have a child you can't love. I have seen cases like this, have you? No? Again, don't talk about things you have no idea about.

No you should shut up.

Your arguments have no roots.

1. You've never been r.aped...your own words.

2. You lack experience...you've never had the opportunity to console a r.ped victim...I have.

3. You post arguments based on your opinion....very illogical considering the fact that a r.aped victim has to be consoled based on reality and not how you feel.

Killing a child wouldn't make her feel any better...because the thought of how she was r.aped would still hunt her...killing that child would make her more guilty..and for you to even bring up such suggestion only shows how heartless you are.

What makes you feel she would hate the child, why do you feel the child is evil and would you vent your anger on an innocent baby simply because of a crime its father committed? Be reasonable and speak like a matured person.

You should be thinking of making that child become significant in life...and not aborting it...think like a human for once...life is precious...it must be conserved not wasted.

candieangel12: Im not gonna lie or pretend, if I was in a situation where I was raped and got pregnant, I would immediately terminate the pregnancy.

Stop ranting like a kid...cos abortion is not as easy as you think.

Its for heartless girls...girls with zero conscience.

Do you think its easy to walk into a clinic and say hi..I want an abortion...get real dear...

carefreewannabe: Are YOU telling me to NOT BLOW THE TRUMPET BECAUSE I have never been raped nor have had an unwanted pregnancy? WHO ARE YOU? A MAN!
YOU are not even able to become pregnant!!!!!! So before YOU tell ME or ANY WOMAN how to go on about rap.e and unwanted pregnancy, you should STOP TALKING FIRST! 'CAUSE YOU HAVE THE LEAST IDEA OF WHAT IT IS LIKE. You have set yourself a trap.

Stop being irrational...you made it clear that you have zero knowledge on rape...you've never been a victim, and I don't pray for you to become one.

If you haven't experienced something, avoid throwing conclusion based on what you think.

I've had the opportunity to console a r.ape victim, and believe me misguided comments such as this gibberish (telling her to decide for herself) you're typing isn't a wise move.

You're ranting here because you probably haven't sat with a r.ped victim one on one for 30minutes.

Its not as easy as you think...most of them find it very difficult trusting people..so if you have the opportunity to speak to anyone...I would suggest you choose your words carefully.

carefreewannabe: Look! I have never been molested, neither have I had an unwanted pregnancy. Yet, I know that I don't want to have a child from a rap.ist.
Therefore, the argument that a decision made under bitterness, shock, confusion conditions is not valid.

Then you probably shouldn't be the one blowing the trumpet here..because you have no idea of what it feels like to be r.aped.

carefreewannabe: Then, have you ever talked to a woman who got a child as a consequence of rap.e? I have. And I can tell you that no therapist could help her not to have feelings of hatred towards the child. Even though she knew that the child was innocent, maternal feelings that the child needed couldn't be developed.

She probably had the child under her trauma...

carefreewannabe: It's good that you are an advocate of life BUT a woman's life is of value too and can be destroyed by an unwanted pregnancy under the circumstances of rape. So let women decide for themselves. They have to deal with the consequences, not you.

True...but advising a r.aped victim to make decisions herself isn't wise.

carefreewannabe: Let the girl decide what is best for her. For some it will be abortion, for others adoption. Some will want to keep the baby.

In cases where your emotions is badly affected (e.g rape), its not wise to take decisions on your own...cos you might have regrets...a better advice would be to confide in an elderly person.

Let me give you an example...suppose you get robbed off your last penny, and you were reduced to trekking a 20km road under the scorching sun....let's say you miraculously get home alive, and find a mob beating the same people who robbed you...and they're crying and begging for mercy, would you listen to them...you won't..infact you would even join in the beating..why because your emotions have been badly affected.

But suppose you happen to see them 5 years time...probably in a cell telling you they're now born again christians and have changed and all that...your reply to them even if you don't forgive them would be quit different from how it would have been when your soul was still terribly wounded...you would even be glad that they're alive and a changed people.

Now do you get what I'm trying to say?

carefreewannabe: ok, what IF the girl doesn't want to go through the pregnancy that reminds her of this horrible incident?
would YOU force her to do so?
what IF she doesn't want to keep the baby, neither give it away and deal with the fact that her child grows up somewhere else.

Decisions made under bitterness, sorrow, shock, confusion..conditions etc. Are regretted later in life believe me.

My advice would be to let her have the baby, then put her through some rehabilitation process...with time, and when the wounds on her soul must have been healed, she come to love accept the child, and be thankful that it wasn't aborted.

[quote author=Mynd_44]Räpe cases are a different kettle of fish all together and the abortion will be carried out[/quote]Would you advise a girl who was r.ped to terminate a pregnancy...for God's sake she's been r.aped..she needs to be loved, pampered and treated with concern.

Suggesting abortion in such cases would only make you heartless...if you can't keep the child, give it up for adoption...why must you put the poor girl through such trauma a second time..why?

[quote author=Mynd_44]From your post up there, lets have it this way, when you go for an abortion, are you the one operating yourself?

The doctor who is gonna carry out the D&C spent almost 5 years in school learning that type of shît that is more then the number of years a military man spends training for war don't you think? [/quote]Can you name one notable hospital in Nigeria that opens their door for abortion?

Abortion in Nigeria if you must know is done mainly by quacks with very little knowledge on medical practice...thereby putting the life of the girl at terrible risk.

Yet another tithe thread...

[quote author=Mynd_44]Joining the military, working on an oil rig, travelling by plane also involves comes with great risk.

Fûck taking your bath in your own bathroom is also dangerous and yet we do it right?[/quote]Lol...your post is really funny..

Let's take it one after the other.

1.) Military: for you to become an officer, you must spend a maximum amount of at least five years in the NDA. For regular intake, its much shorter...you're properly trained, so you know what your facing....same cannot be said about abortion...

2. Working in an oil rig: upon employment into any oil firm, you'll be given at least a maximum of six months training/orientation, you would be educated properly on the possible challenges you're likely to encounter in the course of the job....also same cannot be said about abortion.

F^uck/bathing: Are you telling me that the bolded is more dangerous than abortion?

You must be a clown.

Aren't you aware that abortion can lead to childlessness, death, STDs if objects used aren't properly sterilized, constant feeling of guilt...etc...?

And unlike the fist two (military and oil rig) most girls who partake in the act of abortion do it under pressure, tension, frustration, depression...etc.

Therefore they have very little knowledge of the dangers involved in it...how then should it not be considered dangerous?

Royalty1: Perfectly Said.... But your username kinda scares me.

You don't have to be scared...its just a name.