₦airaland Forum

Good. At least owning up to who you are and/or what you preach is a good start. We are way past the denial stage now. Maybe retribution or redemption might follow, but only fate gets to decide which comes first.

Until that happens, you are what you are - a scamming thief! Revel in it.

oweniwe:
No be Nigeria you dey Ajeh?

Even EFCC fit raid the place. Den go use machine saw cut iron door. Make den just get information say boys dey gather there, that's all

You don't know what a co-working space is then. It's like regular office spaces which are partly partitioned. They are actual businesses set up for that purpose. There's no news of the police raiding co-working spaces, not any that I have seen.

Google what an actual tech co-working space looks like.

This is Coogar making a case for fraud and Yahoo boys in 2013 - 2 years before nemesis caught up with him. Nemesis on this platform, at least.

Notice how he's insisting every Nigerian youth is into fraud? Rings a bell with what's happening on this thread?

coogar:
your moral compass is so screwed up, i wonder how you find your way to your bathroom. there's almost nothing like honest living in naija. 99% are crooks because the system is 100% corrupt. where should we start? ghost workers? yahoo peops, embezzlement of funds meant for awarded contracts, etc. where are the honest workers? tell me one organisation in nigeria that is not corrupt?

Like I stated last month, you have the good and the bad on any platform with people's faces and details on it. For a platform with supposed anonymity like Nairaland, it's a magnet for people with all mentalities and indulging in all vices.

You have actual professionals earning a decent living here at various levels then actual fraudsters, armed robbers, and, yes, kidnappers even.

If what happened with Cóógar of old didn't happen, would anyone have been wiser he's an actual fraudster amongst everyday people for almost a decade with a dedicated Arif teaming up to ruin lives?

If Côôgar is a reality which happened in this section, why do you think there are no equals or worse folks in the same fraudulent line?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]80% of Youths are into Yahoo.

Very true [/color]

What else do you expect when culprits seek to be judges in their own indictments?

80% of youths are into fraud? 80? See how these thieves ridicule the hardwork millions of youth put into earning a decent living?

These are not people worth debating with. a thief would always justify theft.

From hiding in the shadows in support of Shalli-whatever music 24 hours ago to outrightly justifying and making a case for fraud, while trying to drag everyone down with them.

If you are a thief, thump your chest in pride and admit it. Don't try to drag everyone into it. I'm not a Mr. Nice Guy - I'd tell you how it is, bluntly.

You are a fraudster and/or fraud apologist. Own it and hope nemesis tarries from catching up with you.

That we are deliberating how stealing and impoverishing others while grabbing for yourselves their life savings is widespread or not paints how deeply the rot goes.

Tomorrow you want to hold your politicians accountable, want to question Tinubus expenditure, or complain your Governors embezzled XYZ amounts, but you are a thief yourself. A shameless thief even so.

Since there's no shame in what you do, proudly admit it. And if you feel any prickling by your conscience (if you still have any), then stop making a case for fraud.

You are a barawo, ole, onye oshi, ayara ino ; the euphemisms of Yahoo Boy, G Boy, or Working Boy doesn't fly. You are a thief!

Realmrsean:
lol no be matter of company

I went to the university where all calibers of people there are.. I've traveled out and mix with people..

Like I said, most people who hides under the sanctimonious cloak are only envious that they re not the one reaping proceedings of the yahoo or fraud

In my university, my then course rep was church guy, I presume he might have a thing or 2 bad to say about yahoo boys, but na yahoo boys and runs girls in my department

More than anything, the economy increasingly and seemingly gives justification to go into fraudulent vices. So if people wanted to involve in such, there'd do it.

There's a place for tact and a place to be blunt. Some might not be as vocal in the condemnation of fraudsters for their own safety especially in cities or places where violence marries fraudulence and there'd be targets on the backs of these fraud denouncers. It doesn't mean they support fraud.

It's insulting that a bulk of the Nigerian youth do not get involved in fraud yet you paint them with the same brush to justify your stance.

Realmrsean:
Lol, out of the people that are not into fraud, over 50% will jump into it if they have the opportunity to ..

I've not seen any physical youth detest fraud in my life..

Na only online I dey see those things

An insight into the company you keep.

When your acquaintances are white-socks-in-slides donning shorts and large-sized t-shirts with crossbags yelling "On God!" every other minute, you think every other young person mirrors them.

liveLongNprospa:
Case in point

LOL. You know what I mean. I've already taken shots at ND states for too long. Makes me seem like an enemy from within.
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Sad though given the natural resources in these places which are enough to keep the youth gainfully employed.

BlueRayDick:
lol...

I've gone through the link he dropped and all they are saying is that Northern youths also do fraud like their southern counterparts( which is actually no news to me )

The original poster mentioned Minna specifically. He did exactly the same thing prospa did by assuming the number of Fraudsters resident in Minna are more than those in Edo state as a whole. And yet here u are hassling me saying I was using Benin sample size to represent Edo state population when I've constantly maintained I did not.

If u even read the thread further, u see other posters talking about Borno, Gombe , Kaduna etc. How do u rely on such anecdotal evidences? The fact that they are even talking about local scam mostly in the thread is even laughable. Do u know the amount of foreign scam pulled in Edo state, Delta state, Lagos state, Ogun state and Oyo state steady ? Most of the posters in that thread are talking about their personal experiences as either tech entrepreneurs, cyber security experts and IT professionals servicing Nigerian clients.

I already said my use of the word "Majority" of Edo Youths may be exaggeration on my part, but saying fraud in Niger state is higher than that of Edo state is an untrue statement.

The good thing is, we have gone round from whataboutism to the very crux of the issue - condemning the promotion of fraud and fraud music. More than most vices, the reputation of fraud hurts the chances of our compatriots.

And if it's not been stated enough, as online forums go, there are people who try to stay on the right side of the law as consciously as they can, and those who care little about the dictates of the law and who gets ruined in the course of it.

They are fraud apologists and actual fraudsters even on this thread too, known or masked. Of course, you'd find people try to deviate away from the condemnation of fraud - a ruining crime - by equating it with a personal lifestyle by some artiste of smoking.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]He used Niger, because Disstroy used Edo. That was the beginning of the argument.

He did not say majority of the youths in Niger are into fraud. He said Niger is known for fraud than Edo, and posted a twitter link for us to read, And that was where Itsrm commented

You said majority of the youths in Edo state are into fraud.

Is this the same thing?[/color]

Everybody knows the states in the Niger-Delta infamous for fraud. I've never known Niger State being a fraud haven. I was as surprised as anyone else was when Prospa mentioned Niger.

oweniwe:
What if police come and raid the co-working space ... Using excuse that "criminals are gathering there to scam" ... Carry everybody go station?

Na same thing

When has the police ever raided co-working spaces? Do you know what co-working spaces are? Do you know how they are set-up? Like actual offices?

Kimbeast:
promoting it on your songs and music videos for the youth to consume is also a crime.

Yes. Let's rewrite the Criminal Code tonight on Nairaland as long as it'd make us rationalize fraud music by Shalli-whatever. Smoking and promoting fraud are the same.

I mean, if Cynthia flirted with multiple guys, let's criminalize it in theory just to justify Bethy who's actually engaging in prostitution which is a crime.

Screw the Criminal Code! Write yours tonight on this thread, man. This defense of Shalli-whatever must be won at all costs, no?

Again, fraud music is fraud music. See? I still came round to the point.

KingTom:
Next thing you know track 2 enters and you hear 'say nke na na oh, ekporo ada mi tun tun tun, nke na na oh, ekporo ada mi tuntun tun(Ask Disstroy and Patrickmuf to translate)

Dah, ette, ami n'diongho ke se afo kworo de. Nnke kworo yak afon, mme aya nwangha.

Kimbeast:
You were literally promoting Burna boy few pages back who smokes Indian hemp and marijuana on his Instagram, music videos and songs.

Yes. Burna Boy, for most parts, sings about Nigerian socio-politico-economic issues. Smoking and seeming raunchiness aren't crimes. Oh! And he's got good lyrics too, including for introspection. That's why Fela is still great, never mind the smoking and philandering he indulged in. Those aren't crimes.

Fraud is a crime. Shalli-whatever sings about fraud. That's the difference.

Any other diversionary tactics? Stay on topic, man.

See, it is what it is.

This is not about shitting on any state. It's about calling out people who complain about Nigeria being bad and the crimes going on yet laud and promote artistes and works which glorify fraud and are daily anthems for fraudsters.

It's exactly how Naira Marley's movement started till his adherents got bolder.

Johnny Drille has been my best Nigerian artiste in the last 6 years. From the same state, not just for his quality of music but for his scandal-free easygoing lifestyle. I've stated this over the years. He's the only Nigerian artiste I follow on Twitter. So it's not about state of origin. Never mind that he's not topping charts or the rave like BNXN, Iyanya, Young Jon and a few others from my state. This isn't me shitting on another state. See how I can be honest to state something good about others regardless of their states of origin? Try that sometime.


Fraud music is fraud music whether it's your cousin or some stranger. But any intelligent person would know this. Shalli-whatever music is for a certain demography. You know this, I know this, we all know this. Deny all you want.

liveLongNprospa:
Are you saying majority of these people who are listeners of shallipopi are people with questionable lifestyles and who make excuses for the thieves euphemistically called "Yahoo boys"?

Yes. Go on Twitter, go on Facebook. Check on the profiles and/or timelines/post histories of the larger fraction of people indulging in and promoting Shalli-whatever music, and lauding him, they ALWAYS have a questionable lifestyle or justify such.

Post histories replete with "pickings", the archetypal Yahoo boy quotes and lingua, and other such peculiarities.

Realmrsean:
so with ur useless logic,as i like trap and drill rap,am a posterboy for gang violence and shutouts?

Your real trigger is me mentioning fraudsters. You immediately felt it's an attack on your person so decided to insert yourself even when you've not expressed your love for Shalli-whatever music or from the supposed state, nor do we have some previous animosity.

You read "fraudsters" and you felt a personal attack on you. That in itself is telling. Ruminate on it.

234daniel2010:
This advice is for people still coming up.

Most people in tech are still coming up. For those who are experienced, they already know co-working spaces are the best options. Then they supplement with working from home.

Experienced people know isolation is debilitating healthwise and socially.

liveLongNprospa:
Between Edo and Niger, which is deep into fraud?

You know there's another state in our region also known for fraud. Mention it then we can compare.

But Shalli-whatever is the poster boy for fraudsters, and those who listen to his music and champion him double as people with questionable lifestyles and who make excuses for the thieves euphemistically called "Yahoo boys".

For remote workers or people who work a lot from home, use co-working spaces at intervals. Asides shielding you from nosy envious neighbours, it helps you connect with people with like minds to balance your social life.

Work some days at home and work in co-working spaces on other days. Or if you have friends who are also techies living close to you, you guys can work some days rotatingly at each other's apartments. One week or three days rotation. Helps balance your social life too.
You can talk about the fine girl your friend just met , or some crazy thing politicians are up to, or some Twitter trend while you work. Fun too. Then you go home to your nosy neighbours not getting into your business.

It is time the public revisits the 2018 injunction Nigerian Governors got from the courts to prevent enquiries into the expenditure of security votes.

What do Governors really do with security votes? And, no, I am not a Tinubu supporter taking off any blame from him.

joseph1832:
Dude is rather extreme, even for you.

LOL. You want to see a screenshot of me telling someone this on WhatsApp? Or me posting in the comment section of Facebook Groups and Pages?

If you continue communication with an ex, you deserve everything you get. There are 8 billion people in the world, 216 million in Nigeria, and somehow you think you need to communicate with the 10 exes or 20 or 30 you have had?

Cut that shît off! I have that strict rule: Once you become an ex, I won't reach out; don't reach out too. I know it's easy sex and bond, but don't reach out. I don't care how deeply we bonded or how great the sex she and I had was. She should go her way. She's just become a memory.

As a woman, my rule is, don't ever communicate with your ex. If you do, I can't commit to you. If I have already, I'd withdraw my commitment. Oh! And she can't hide to communicate behind my back. I'd know and she'd wake to find out I've moved on without an explanation and she'd never get closure. I've done it to at least two women who are still seeking closure from me.

I have the abundance mentality. There's more out there.

There's a reason Tinubu mentioned a certain state is the headquarters of fraud and cybercrimes during his campaigns.
There's a reason Aisha Buhari mentioned a certain state is the headquarters of prostitution.

I'd rather the Earth tilts off its axis than dignify a nîtwit Shalli-whatever fanatic who champions fraud music and unintelligence. The Universe forbids that.

BlueRayDick:
Burna is who he thinks he is and MORE!

Correct! And isn't it interesting that all the people who listen to Shalli-whatever have sympathy for fraud and other vices?

Immediately I realized this, I knew certain people aren't worth a response from me. Not online and certainly not in person.

Killed by ex-lover? Ex-lover? I have absolutely no sympathy for anybody who still keeps communication channels open with exes.

I never communicate with any ex. Once we break-up or drift apart, nothing brings us back. There's a whole world out there of women to be experienced than be tied to the finiteness and minuscule experience that is you. I won't even entertain calls or letting be on my Facebook or contact list.

No sympathy for fóóls communicating with exes.

Ibime:
Una just dey wake up to wetin we see for Burna since 2013

Burna delivers a high level on any genre and any style from RnB to Ragga to Afrojuju to Afrobeats to HipHop, not to talk of stage performance. Nobody is in his cadre. It's an insult to mention him with any Nigerian artiste

No ragga artiste on the continent has been able to match Burna's "Like To Party" 11 years after, both for lyrics, composition, video quality, and longetivity. And he's not even a ragga artiste. Before him, it was only Shank's 2008 "Julie".

BlueRayDick:
Burna got me too. He don leave all of them behind in terms of performance, showmanship, quality of music, lyricism, etc.

Real people who know quality music. Then there's another group of very loud people who posit Shalli-whatever towers above anyone to ever hold a mic from Nigeria.

TrebleChamp:
Dey play, 2027 result that Inec, APC/Tinubu have written already and kept in a secure place. If anybody believe Tinubu will lose re-election in 2027, that person just dey play...

Maybe, maybe not. 2027 is 3 years from now. 3 years is a long time in Nigerian sociopolitics.

Whatever happens, as long as Obi is on the ballot and there's no one who can match or surpass his credentials running, I'd "waste" my vote on him if I am physically available to vote.

Anybody who wants to vote a worse candidate based on ethno-religious partisan sentiments would buy at the prices the rest of us who vote our consciences buy. And suffer the consequences like they are now.

But Obi was looking very presidential in that stadium yesterday. Simple dressing. Seated right in the midst of everyday Nigerians cheering the Super Eagles on.

And look at how everyone celebrated him. There's no way such love can be bought.

2027, we go again. Until then, we connect to the grassroots and continue to battle the systemic monsters who have continued to suppress Nigerians and Nigeria.

One looks at the comments on the frontpage of Africa's largest forum then shakes head vehemently in disgust.

The display of unintelligence. No mention of the Moon's influence of gravitation on earth or tides. No comment about how a shrinking moon presents a challenge on our long-held concept of gravitational play on Earth. Even increased cases of coastal region floodings.

Or how we'd have to redesign or rejig our engineering of physical structures to counter the potential gravitational variation.

Just dûmb happy-go-lucky comments littered on such an insightful post.

larride:
It actually is still the right decision. We dont even have the reserve to continue to defend the naira. They should do total float and make fx transactions cashless.

With the new circulars released by CBN the past few days, it seems Cardoso head is moving in the right direction.

All I'd state is, I admire your unflinching loyalty. Every captain needs a crew member like you who wouldn't bolt or question the course even when everyone aboard knows the ship is headed towards a monstrous iceberg.

Because of people like you, we have moving stories like The Titanic.