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lexiconkabir:
maybe you should post the questions again, cuz the only one i thought you were asking is the true creature satan is.

Seems these method is now the in-thing . Ill repeat my questions and still wunt get answers.

I never post plenty post for this thread, My questions are easy to find !

lexiconkabir:
@dolphinheart, yes if you think i'm not being truthful, well its your opinion and your opinion is your right, i still strongly recommend you to ask him("islamic cleric) what satan means in that hadiths, like i said in my previous post satan in that hadiths was used in a metaphor form to mean act of dirtiness and like i also said before, satan is not an angel like the jews and christians believe, but he is a jinn. did i answered the question about satan? if yes answer mine about the story of angel having sex found in your bible.

Why dnt you guys want to answer my questions .I did not only ask about Satan ? The Satan being a jinn question came out cus of ur doubts . Pls answer my questions and ill answer urs .

Modified :Note: I've not said ur explanation on Satan eating with left hand is wrong. But having heard two different explanations, its left for me to ask questions and see who is lying .

But who ever lied in this case does not affect the answers to my questions

Empiree:
Eja dolphinheart messed up really bad. I'm sure Islamic scholar told 'JINN' (if any) but in his twisted mind he got it wrong

@9jaforlife, long time. How are you doing my sister? .

Yes, yes , yeeesss!!, the scorlar said "jinn". Now if you think my inability to know or recollect easily Islamic words! As twisted mind, then ill leave to ur own opinnion . My own is that you answer my questions.

If you like, use a billion derogatory words, I will not go down that road with you.

pazienza:
" I believe that it is better even from the point of survival to fight and be conquered than to surrender without fighting" .~ George Orwell.

"It is better to be a live dog than a dead lion". - wise king Solomon .

BishopMagic:
Name one Yoruba opposition figure in pre colonial Nigeria and stop dithering about you coward slave descendant

Must there be an opposition?. There are many slave descendants who are better than descendants of free people.
There are many lineages of free people which have been wiped out while those of slaves are alive , free and living well today

BishopMagic:
Are you defending coming from the lineage of cowards whose current state of development is as a direct result of a parasitic yeast arrangement?


Coward leech.

These parasitic yeast arrangement has been in existense since man started arranging himself into kingdoms and countries . The dominant Egyptians where taking resources and wealth from the nubians, the dominant assyrians from northern isreal, the babylonians , Persians and Greeks too. The dominant Rome collected food from egypt freelly . The British from nigeria. Read up on what the British, dutch, potuguese and spaniads did to the south east Asia islands and their resources.

So if you believe a tribe is a parasitic yeast, I bet we can say its a common trait of a dominant race , as history has shown us .

Wonder why some think you have to fight to show you re not a coward! . Expecially fighting someone you know is far far stronger than you .

Fast forward to present day, is the land of those that fought better than those that did not fight?
The isrealites where ruled by foreign nations for hundreds of years , over 600 years , the year they overdid there rebellion , they got scattered all over the world and there capital destroyed. Its better to keep quiet when you know ull lose a fight, cus after losing the situation or cause of the fight might still not change .

lexiconkabir:
@dolphinheart, i deliberately did not tell you what satan is in the previous post not because of untruthfulness, but because your post has lies in them, and i still stand to say that no islamic cleric told you all those things. before coming out bash islam, do proper research. Yes satan is not an angel but a jinn, note:your bible never referred to satan explicitly as an angel, well i look forward into seeing you prove to me that satan is an angel from your bible and i hope you dont give me job1:6 as your proof. the hadith in the original post is not talking about satan as "a being" but act of dirtiness, and act of dirtiness in islam is an act of satan, if you want to be truthful, why not read the hadith to the islamic cleric(let me pretend to agree that you actually sat with him) and ask him to explain what satan means in that context. goodmorning!

I still maintain that a truthfull person would have gone on to tell me my mistake and use the corrected version to answer my questions.

Now you have turned one mis quote to multiple lies. Pls tell me the lies in my post.

Well , the Islamic cleric told me on Friday evening that the explanation giving on Satan eating with his left hand is wrong. This he did in front of me and another young Muslim guy, who reconfirmed the "jinn" word as used by the man. Ill try to get in touch with him again to hear more.
I did not read the hadith to him, I only read the explanation giving on the hadith. I dnt know why you think reading an hadith he knows will change his answers.

In what way have I bashed islam, asking for my question to be answered is now bashing abi? Have you seen me abuse you or ur religion on these thread?

Pls pls pls, answer my questions first and ill tell you what I know about Satan and angels having sex.

malvisguy212:
God did not pray , it was the human nature of Jesus 'pray' .God did not impose His will on the human nature of Jesus.

Have you ever wondered why jesus performed his first miracle after the holy spirit came on him?

If God did not inpose his will on the human nature of jesus, so whose will did jesus follow when he said "let not my will be done but urs" ( rough translation).

Where was that god nature when jesus died? Where did it go to. Or was both nature killed? .

What do you think about this words: "I live because of the father" found in john 6:57?

What do you thing when jesus said " I do not do a single thing from my own initiative, except what the father says I should do (rough quote)?

Who gave jesus the word he came to do in john 17: 4? Did his God nature do any of the work while jesus was on earth? Are we to say his god nature obeyed and did what the father wills?

Did you not read that jesus EMPTIED! Himself when he took a slaves form? How can he still have God nature having emptied himself ?.

Teekrayne:
........... Isaac was 14 years younger than Ishmael. When Abraham took his son to be sacrificed, that son appears to have been about 13. God several times refers to Abraham's son as his "only son."..... Did God make a mistake?? Did God not know that Abraham had two sons: Ishmael and Isaac?

Obviously, God did not make a mistake. What really happened was that Isaac was not born yet. Ishmael, at age 13, was Abraham's only son. Isaac was born one year later...... Well, I am still a student and not a scholar! You asked me to answer you and I did based on my little understanding! Asking me to add proof here and there would expose my inexperience, even though I am truly a tyro. You could still meet those who are more knowledgeable than @Teekraye, they'll put you through. I can't go beyond this. Better still, let me say I can't say what I don't know..... However, bear in mind that some of these stories were logically arrived at, some mentioned in the Quran and some were mentioned in the Hadith of prophet Muhammad(SAW)...... NB: I am not saying that all I have said so far on this forum is wrong oooo. Every one who is more knowledgeable than I will tell you the same...... Is it time for me to ask my question Have I tried enough

Kk Bro , ill put this under Q2( the second set of questions you have not answered due to the fact that you have not provided any scripture from ur side that surpports ur answers to the questions)

Now you can go ahead and ask me any question.

Not fully sure who Satan is according to some people, but I feel I might have been right in my first post when the words of the Islamic scorlar was still fresh in my mind. But you guys will refuse to comment on that one cus the only post you can make there is to refute the mans statement( which I dnt think you are ready to do) , derail the topic( which I wunt allow) or use derogatory terms( a game I wunt play with you)

Demmzy15:
Mr. Man why did the angels of the bible have sex with human females?!

Answer the questions posed to you guys first! Then I promise to give you a comprehensive answer .

Demmzy15:
@emphasis,if indeed an Islamic scholar told you this, then he's the most dumb. I doubt that, you concocted this irrational and dumb story from your Igbo. Why must you lie to prove a point? When I tried to launch a campaign against Nairaland Christians due to persistent use of "takkiyah" many complained. Now look at the results.

But bros you can lie o Injeel is the gospel in which many Christians misinterpret as bible. So you're automatically saying the bible is evil. Chai!!! Chai!! Chai!

The way you are quick to use derogatory words still dey wonder me.

Is the Islamic cleric most dumb to say that Satan is not an angel?

Is he most dumb to call Satan an Islamic word that I failed to understand?

For ur info, he did not say "injill" , was later told he said "Jin" or "gin", is he wrong to call Satan that?

I pray you to tell me the truth about who Satan is and ill take refusal to answer to mean u dnt o can't tell me.

Is there anything wrong with having a Igbo? Bet there are many flatsheads who live a very good life even by your creators standards. Even better than you could ever imagine .

lexiconkabir:
@dolphinheart, LOL, you typed one word there that exposed you as a liar, that same word proves that you never sat beside an islamic cleric, that same word proves that you just made up the story, whats that word that messed you up? you said the islamic cleric told you that satan is "an INJIL", really? whats INJIL if i may ask? INJIL is the arabic term for GOSPEL. So if i am getting you right, are you saying satan is the GOSPEL?? LWTMB as ilorites will say, you can lie fa! that word has messed up your whole write up. well its your turn to answer me, why did angels have sex with women of this earth according to your bible?

Just had to get in touch with someone that was there when the man explained the issue I summarised in my post so as to comfirm the words the man used, he said it was not "injill", that he said Satan is a "jinn" or "gin" or something close to it. So sorry I got it wrong, I was just trying to remember his words as he did not type it out but said it.

You guys are so quick to find fault, as long as it gives you time and oppotunity not to answer questions.

if you say I made it up because I misundertood/ misquoted/ miss-heard and miss- typed an Islamic/arabic word that I don't know its spelling or meaning, then I feel its a desperate attempt at not answering the questions in my post. You Went looking for something to argue about and refuse to answer the questions.
Unless you answer the questions (which incidentaly are not related to the Islamic Scorlars words) , then it is not yet ur turn.

if someone is truthful and notices the mistake of someone, despite the truth in that persons words, such one will be corrected and then his issues addresed. I belief you feel or know that I got it right to say Satan is not an angel (based on the what the man said), and you know that I got the pronouciation or spelling of what/who Satan is wrong. A truthfull person would have added the real word of what/who Satan really is when replying me. Or I'm I also wrong in saying Satan is not an angel?

U guys sha!.

ifeness:
Creation/Evolution is a continuous process which is still taking place and will continue to take place for eternity. If you look at the world we live in today,you will see that this year is a lot different to the 1960s. Internet,Mobile phones has affected our evolution and awareness in a huge way and we humans are the ones responsible for it,not an unknown lonely God masturbating in the sky. All the beautiful things you see are the works of men.

Nature itself is harsh and without consideration for life. Man on the other hand has learned how to survive alongside nature and that's what is speeding up evolution.

You can always claim there is a God up there,but you will never have evidence....because you have been ill-educated. Kumuyi is still gay.

To evolutionists: which came first, the Chiken or the egg?.
When man discovers things, does it mean that such things has not been in existence before the discovery ?

Look at ur body, was it designed or it came about by chance?

Nature is harsh? Without the earth moving at its speed round the sun, its rotation on its axis , its perfect distance from the sun, do you think there will be man on earth?

Whithout the moon, its perfect distance, speed and weight, do you thing man will be on earth?

Can man survive without the sea?.

Does the electromagnetic field around the earth come by chance or is it designed?

Look at the protection the higher atmosphere give man, animals and plants, is it designed to do such or it came by chance?

Found the initial explanation on "Satan eating with his left hand " verry interesting . Someone defended that statement by insinuating that Satan is NOT KNOWN TO EAT and went further to explain that that the word "Satan"
sometimes are used to
describe "evil", "bad",
"something not
appropriate", "wrong doings"
etc,.

He went further by stating this:
Now in regards to the practice, using the word Satan here does not necessarily mean Satan as the "Evil Identity", rather it is used to describe the type of people that are not clean, because in Islam Cleanliness is half of faith. So the associative property of that person who is unclean is that Satan used in the concept".

Furtunately for me, there was an Islamic cleric sitting beside me and I read the post out loud for him to hear, he replied by stating that that person is totally wrong. He stated that Satan does eat food and that Satan eats with his left hand. He stated becus Satan is evil, all his ways are evil and they are told not to do things the way Satan does things, hence it is evil to eat with ur left hand.
He also stated that Satan is not an angel but an injil!.

I pasted this explanation earlier,I'm beginning to think the cleric is right cus no one has tried to reply such analogy with a contrary one.

So that we can fully know the truth, a plain simple question has been asked several times on this thread : does Satan eat litterarilly? And the answer to that has not been forthcoming .

I even added further questions like :

Does Satan eat so as to stay alive and have energy like we humans?
Is it evil for me to eat with my left hand if I have some disability with my right hand?.

How do you view "eating with both hands" ?. Eg eating a big burger with both hands?
These questions are still awaiting answers.

Some others have tried to derail the thread by asking/postulating questions/ discussion that goes contrary to the thread. I personaly will answer anyone on angels and sex if such one can answer the question on this post and also tell me why he brought up such question when he believes that Satan is not an angel.

The scrambled egg approach to defending a belief is not acceptable . Same belief based on different explanations.

Can we have a straight answer, 1. does Satan eat or does not eat?
2. Does Satan need food to remain alive?
3 is Satan an angel.?

Rilwayne001:
Here is a reply from a brother: [b] As usual there is always hidden intention to bring up such issue but nevertheless, in when we tend to look in the context of the use of Satan in the practice of the prophet, otherwise known as Sunnah in Islam, which is not compulsory but encouraged, we have to be very objective in reasoning in the sense of applying the message with sense.

Satan is not known to eat, rather the word Satan sometimes are used to describe "evil", "bad", "something not appropriate","wrong doings" etc, and hence a very good sunnah of relation would be the practice of the prophet which he encourages the cutting of the nails, in which he says Satan resides under the nails.

Now in regards to the practice, using the word Satan here does not necessarily mean Satan as the "Evil Identity", rather it is used to describe the type of people that are not clean, because in Islam Cleanliness is half of faith. So the associative property of that person who is unclean is that Satan used in the concept.

If someone says someone is the child of Satan, does it mean that Satan is actually the biological father of that person? No it does not mean so, rather it is the particular character of that person that has relativitity to how that collection of people cohibiting that particular behavior are associated with an unacceptable wrong doing which indicates the so called property of Satan but not necessarily Satan himself or herself. [/b]

Just now, I read ur post to an Islamic cleric, he said you are totally wrong , that Satan does eat, cus Satan is not an angel but a jinn. He said they (jinns) eat, sleep with women and drink! And because Satan is evil and they way he does things is evil , believers should not do things the way Satan does. And Satan eats with his left hand .
Ur statement now brings about other questions, what does ur religion now say about someone who cannot use his right hand to eat? Maybe due to paralysis ?

What does ur religion say about using both hands? Like eating a large burger with both left and right hands?

armadeo:
It was an airport scene where Ethan had to enter a moving plane to remove nukes. That's the scene prior to the MI intro. Before the record store.

Wow!

Teekrayne:
............. A very good analysis........ Below are the answers...........

1..... Ishmael was 13......

2..... Quran 37 vs 102-111......

3...... Mina......

4..... Isaac was 14 years younger than Ishmael......

5..... All sides agree that Ishmael and Isaac were brothers. They further agree that Ishmael is the father of all Arabs and that Isaac is the father of all Jews. Thus, the three great religions agree that the Arabs and the Jews are brothers; a point often overlooked by those who have not studied these religions..........

6..... Sarah did not have any child of her own. She began to feel uncomfortable in living with Hajar (Hagar) and her son Isma'il (Ishmael).

One day Sarah told Ibrahim (Abraham) that she did not want to live with Hajar (Hagar) and her son Isma'il (Ishmael) any more.
Allah (God) commanded Ibrahim(Abraham) to take Hajar (Hagar) and Isma'il(Ishmael) to a far away place.
After a long journey, they arrived at the valley of Makkah in Arabia. That was a very hostile place and the valley was completely barren. The valley of Makkah was on the route of caravans that traveled between Sham (Syria) and Yaman (Yemen), but did not stop there because there was no water or vegetation in that area. No one lived there because the area was inhabitable.........

7....... The sacrifice occurred after Hajar(Hagar)left...

8.... Obviously, Hagar left for Mecca before Isaac's birth................ That is how far I can go for now!

On Question 1: can you pls add proves to support that statement? Just in case I'm being asked to prove it.


On question 2: the name "ishmeal is not mentioned in those verses Bro, note the question I asked is on the mention of the name in relation to the sacrifice.

On question 3:
Can you add proof that it took place in mina?


On question 4: can you add prove that ishmael is 14 years older than Isaac from ur religious scriptures?

On question 5: like I've been saying , I dnt want views from all sides, I just want views from ur side supported by books or scriptures ur sides belief as totally accurate.
The question has to do with progeny, for example , I believe and have proof to say that all legitimate(biological)isrealite came through the loins of Jacob. Now can all Arabs do the same for ishmeal? How did ishmeal come to speak arabic? Was he taught by someone? If he was taught by someone, can we say or not say that those people two taught him are Arabs too?if those people are Arabs, then can we say that there are Arabs who did not come from abraham loins at that time? .
Pls add proof to question 5.

On question 6: what is/are the source(s) of these story ?

On question 7: can you add proof to show that the verses occured after hagar left? E.g when abraham came back to perform the sacrifice, an event mentioned before or after the sacrificise, to give us a clue as to the time the sacrifise occured.

Question 8: can you add proof to help us understand that hagar left before Isaacs birth?.

armadeo:
No no no. Your copy didn't start from the beginning

What happened at the beggining ?

armadeo:
The plane stunt was at the very beginning if you didn't see it then it was an incomplete movie you saw.

The first scene was hunt walking out of the subway into the record Store.

@ Teekrayne

I believe this reply will show you that I indeed did read ur post.

My post will first contain my questions, then ill add ur reply . Included in my post of ur reply will be my views in brackets.

My qustions where:
(1) it is said that the child
abraham wanted to sacrifice
was not Isaac but ishmeal,
following such beliefs,what is
the age range of ishmeal or
anyone related to the sacrifice
when he was to be
sacrificed?.
(2)do you have prove that
mentions the name of ishmeal
in relation to that particular
sacrifice by abraham ?
(3) where did this sacrifice
occur?
(4)what's the age difference
between Isaac and ishmeal.
(5)is ishmeal the progenitor of
the Arab race or he became
part of the arab people and
learnt their language? .
(6) why did hagar leave the
place where abraham
resided?.
(7)did the sacrifice occur
before or after hagar left (pls
add proof)
( did hagar leave for mecca
before or after Isaacs birth.

(9) is there any evidence that
signified that abraham
performed the ritual of moving
between the mountains like
hagar did?
(10)some said that the two
mountains in mecca are the
symbols of Allah, what is/are
the symbols of Allah
(11) why are those two
mountains symbols of Allah
(12)when did they become
symbols of Allah.




(Ur reply with my views on it.)


........ Dearly beloved brother, I
am honoured to have been
doing this with you! Your
questions are highly
appreciated; but then, I am as
busy as a bee to be honestly
honest.


Me I understand Bro, that's why I said you can take ur time to reply when you are less busy Furthermore, bear in mind that it is not compulsory to answer all at once, you can even answer one question a week if its ok with you)



........mind that a well detailed and a
comprehensive researched
embarked upon by a sincere
individual cannot be relatively
accomplished in a day, let a
lone a week if truly you want
your work to be seriously
appreciated in the midst of the
erudites! Hence, I want you
sir, to kindly try as much as
you can to reduce the number
of questions you ask. If
possible, one for each
other........ 12 questions is a
NO for me! I have other things
to do. If not for the clause you
decided to include at the end
of your question, I would have
left the questions. However, I was able to squeeze out my
time to get a solution to some
of your questions!.......



Methanks, but my view on how and when you answer is same as above , you can take all the time u need)



......is It is well known to Muslims, Christians and Jews that........

cuts in the answers must be devoid of any other religious source other than ur religion, u answers must be strickly based on ur scriptures and books u believe in as totally and completely aunthentic)



....... Abraham was ordered to sacrifice his son and he was willing to do so but God gave him a sheep to sacrifice instead of his cherished progeny. So far, everybody agrees..........



Me I agree, though thought it was a ram )



....... However, Jews and Christians say that the sacrificed was Isaac
-"Abraham's only son",
whereas according to the
Islamic tradition the sacrificed
is Ishmael. The opposition
between the two versions has
not bothered any side that
much because in the common
mind "what we think is
certainly right and those who
think differently are
necessarily wrong"....... The
first argument put forward by
those who support the "Isaac-
theory" is that, in the Qur'ân,
the name associated to glad
tidings is Isaac while
Ishmael's name was never
associated to good news or
glad tidings. They quote the
Qur'an.
"And We gave him the good
news of Isaac - a Prophet -
one of the righteous."
They also quote....
"They said, "Fear not," and
they gave him glad tidings of a
son endowed with
knowledge."
Some points have to be made
clear in this concern:.........



Me: (the above is not accepted, dnt want "other" religion discussion, view or argument , just want to hear ur own answers devoid of other religions view or arguments)



.........It is well known that Abraham got his first child in his old days (more than 80 years old).........

Medo you have prove on this statement?)



...... By all means, when he was given the news of his first son, Ishmael,......

Me cuts in: ( do you have prove that the name of his first born will be called ishmeal prior to the first borns birth?)



...........the news were great and not only good. It seems reasonable to think that the news of having his second son, Isaac would be equal or less because in the first time the surprise factor has certainly increased his happiness.
More to the point, using the
same argument as the
opposition, one can safely say
that the sacrificed was
described as forbearing and
steadfast in the Qur'ân and if
we search the whole Qur'ân
we will find the name of
Ishmael associated to
patience and steadfastness
and not Isaac!..........



Meare you saying that in reference to my question 2, that your religion believes that the child to be sacrificed is ishmeal, cus the name ishmeal is associated with steadfastness and patience? And this thus now proves that ishmeal is the first born ? To now prove that ishmeal as the first born is the one to be sacrificed ?
Are you saying that their is no straight , precise, non derived statement that mentions "ishmeal" with the sacrifice as asked in question 2 ?
(2)did you have prove that
MENTIONS THE NAME of ishmeal in relation to that particular sacrifice by abraham ?)



.......The Encyclopaedia Judaica says:..........

Me no other source pls)



........In the tale of binding (surah 37:99-110) Muhammad
identified the son who was to
be sacrificed as Ishmael and,
indeed, the opinion of the
traditionalists were also
divided on this subject. It is
related that a renowned
traditionalist of Jewish origin,
from the Quraysh tribe, and
another Jewish scholar, who
converted to Islam, told that
Caliph Omar Ibn Abd al-Azîz
(717-20) that the Jews were
well informed that Ismail was
the one who was bound, but
that they concealed this out of
jealousy.


Me I read the passage of the quran, those verses did not mention ishmeal talk less of saying he was the one to be sacrificed, it did not even mention firstborn. Some can try to deduce that the passages where trying to talk about the firstborn, but the lack or presence of concise, precise statement on this historical event and its paticipants is what I'm after.)




.....The Muslim legend also adds details of Hajar (Hagar), the mother of Ismail.
After Abraham drove her and
her son out...........


Cuts in why was she driven out? It is part of my question 6,)



........ she wandered between the hills of al-Safa and al-Marwa (in the vicinity of Mecca) in search for water. At
that time the waters of the
spring Zemzem began to flow.
Her acts became the basis for
the hallowed custom of
Muslims during the
Hajj......


Me so do they perform this acts because hajar did it?)



..........................................
Oxford Companion To The
Bible echoes the same
position as the Encyclopaedia
Judaica.
In Muslim tradition, the Arabs
trace their ancestry back to
Abraham through Ishmael.
Because Ishmael was
circumcised (Gen. 17:25), so
are most Muslims. And,
analogous to Paul's reversal
of the figures of Isaac and
Ishmael (Gal. 4:24-26),
Muslim tradition makes
Ishmael rather than Isaac the
son Abraham was
commanded to
sacrifice............


Mewunt accept any other citation than citation you believe ur religion accepts its source as completely accurate, for example unless you accept the bible as completely accurate and true ,I would not accept you citing verses from it.
U did not also give prove that muslims or Arabs where circumscised because ishmeal was?)

End of analysis.



I'll prefer you not to reply this post as it might affect our question and answer process. This post was made to show you that I read ur posts and I did not find the answers There. but you can reply if you feel there are some points you want to address. If you do, u can merge it with ur answers to my questions (in the format it was asked o).

As for my sister, she no dey look person work o!. She fit yab me if I make such suggestion. But if you work on a rig in the northern sea, I might tell her about your work. Tkia Bro.

What is the problem gan sef! That one side has it more than the other side or its not been put to good use?.

Most here are arguing like two ashawos who are in a heated discussion on who has the best body.

On politics. I dnt mind if any region wants/decides to split/seperate from another region. But reality has made me ask this question: how is this possible without it resulting to killings and war? How will nigeria be demacated without a tribal warfare?.

Anyone who wants others to suffer cus of his or her political ideas are welcomed reply negatively.

obixcel:
yea, me too, Terminator Genisys was action packed, but the story line was a bit confusing. I was just hearing so many figures like going back to 1984, 1997, 2007 and time-travelling to 2017...couldn't assemble all of these together as to understanding where the real Plot of the movie is about. But those are one of the downsides of science fiction movies. But great movie anyway, enjoyed it.

The biggest mistake the creator of terminator made was to put a real world time period to there storyline,and I think that's what they are trying to correct with these film, they are trying to start all over again.
In 1984 , they thought 1997 was still far away, now they know better.

obixcel:
The idea of stripping naked just to time-travel, i was like really? If na me hold dat chick say i wan do time-travel, heaven knows better.

Strip that idea from ur mind Bro, u might find some very important parts of ur body missing at the other end. Solid objects don't time-travel easily!

orisa37:
Reference to Lazarus in Abraham's bossom and the Richman in hell beggining for a drop of water, was a discussion of the spirits in Heaven. The Richman's spirit then asked father Abraham's spirit to send prophet to the earth to recover his relations. Father Abraham's response is sufficient answer to prove that spirits live in Heaven and can only talk to humans on earth on God's own terms and in God's own ways.

For one lie to stand, it must be surported by other lies. Continue oo!

Abeg, where is the rich mans soul? That one get him own tongue too?

JMAN05:
Have u not seen it yet?

Not sure yet, will confirm from the reply

JMAN05:
Have u not seen it yet?

Not sure yet, will confirm from the reply

Teekrayne:
........ Dearly beloved brother, I am honoured to have been doing this with you! Your questions are highly appreciated; but then, I am as busy as a bee to be honestly honest. Furthermore, bear in mind that a well detailed and a comprehensive researched embarked upon by a sincere individual cannot be relatively accomplished in a day, let a lone a week if truly you want your work to be seriously appreciated in the midst of the erudites! Hence, I want you sir, to kindly try as much as you can to reduce the number of questions you ask. If possible, one for each other........ 12 questions is a NO for me! I have other things to do. If not for the clause you decided to include at the end of your question, I would have left the questions. However, I was able to squeeze out my time to get a solution to some of your questions!....... It is well known to Muslims, Christians and Jews that Abraham was ordered to sacrifice his son and he was willing to do so but God gave him a sheep to sacrifice instead of his cherished progeny. So far, everybody agrees. However, Jews and Christians say that the sacrificed was Isaac -"Abraham's only son", whereas according to the Islamic tradition the sacrificed is Ishmael. The opposition between the two versions has not bothered any side that much because in the common mind "what we think is certainly right and those who think differently are necessarily wrong"....... The first argument put forward by those who support the "Isaac-theory" is that, in the Qur'ân, the name associated to glad tidings is Isaac while Ishmael's name was never associated to good news or glad tidings. They quote the Qur'an.

"And We gave him the good news of Isaac - a Prophet - one of the righteous."
They also quote....

"They said, "Fear not," and they gave him glad tidings of a son endowed with knowledge."

Some points have to be made clear in this concern:

It is well known that Abraham got his first child in his old days (more than 80 years old). By all means, when he was given the news of his first son, Ishmael, the news were great and not only good. It seems reasonable to think that the news of having his second son, Isaac would be equal or less because in the first time the surprise factor has certainly increased his happiness.
More to the point, using the same argument as the opposition, one can safely say that the sacrificed was described as forbearing and steadfast in the Qur'ân and if we search the whole Qur'ân we will find the name of Ishmael associated to patience and steadfastness and not Isaac!.......... The Encyclopaedia Judaica says:

In the tale of binding (surah 37:99-110) Muhammad identified the son who was to be sacrificed as Ishmael and, indeed, the opinion of the traditionalists were also divided on this subject. It is related that a renowned traditionalist of Jewish origin, from the Quraysh tribe, and another Jewish scholar, who converted to Islam, told that Caliph Omar Ibn Abd al-Azîz (717-20) that the Jews were well informed that Ismail was the one who was bound, but that they concealed this out of jealousy. The Muslim legend also adds details of Hajar (Hagar), the mother of Ismail. After Abraham drove her and her son out, she wandered between the hills of al-Safa and al-Marwa (in the vicinity of Mecca) in search for water. At that time the waters of the spring Zemzem began to flow. Her acts became the basis for the hallowed custom of Muslims during the Hajj...................................................................................The Oxford Companion To The Bible echoes the same position as the Encyclopaedia Judaica.

In Muslim tradition, the Arabs trace their ancestry back to Abraham through Ishmael. Because Ishmael was circumcised (Gen. 17:25), so are most Muslims. And, analogous to Paul's reversal of the figures of Isaac and Ishmael (Gal. 4:24-26), Muslim tradition makes Ishmael rather than Isaac the son Abraham was commanded to sacrifice............ Does it answer some of them?

Bro, as you can see, I did ask the question in a numbered format. The reason for the numbers is to seperate and identify each question. I was expecting you to do the same , that is , to number ur reply so that we know which particular question you answered, I hope u get my point. Cus at the moment I do not know or agree that you have answered any question unless you put the numbers indicating which question you answered.

On the issue of too many questions. like I said before, these questions are interrelated and most answers can(hopefully) be found in the same place, hence the possibilty of asking so many questions at once.

On ur reply above.
I will not accept it for the following reasons .
1. The Answers where not numbered and I and other readers might not know which questions you answered and which one you did not. This will only end up in confusion.
2. I wanted answers based on ur beliefs, books and Scriptures. I did not use any other book than the bible when I answered ur questions. I believe you belief that ur religious books and scriptures are equipted enough to answer my questions without recourse to other religious books and scriptures. Hence the questions should be answered from books and scriptures ur religion hold in reverence pls.

3. We are not debating who is right and who is wrong concerning some of the events that happened to Abrahams family. My questions are to find out more about ur beliefs.

So pls you have to re-answer the questions . Just answer like you answer questions during an examination so that the examiner will know which answer answers which question . Eg "answer 1 " answers "question 1".
Its not compulsory to answer all at once.

JMAN05:
I sent u a mail. U saw it?

Saw a mail from nairaland stating that you want to send me an email. I replied , but I have not seen any other after that

JMAN05:
OK, let's talk thru mail if u don't mind.

Nop, I dnt mind