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MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀DẸ̀!

The house you live in now belongs to the architect employed to construct it or your landlord?

When you lack knowledge on things ask, so that you'll stop disgracing yourself in public domain.

Architect don't BUILD/Construct, Architect only DESIGNS.

Even though the architect knows everything about the house he will always tell you that the instruction is coming from the one who employed his services! John 5:30

Stop talking nonsense.

Not all instructions come from the owner of a building.

Which instructions will the owner give when it comes to the structural stability of the building? Even Architect has nothing to do with structural design and analysis of a building.

You see the reason why you people argue shamelessly and this argument fall flat when it come to Creation.

Janosky:
"Emusan post,9th August,2013.
"The word (Jesus) that PROCEEDED from God's mouth is the first thing in ALL creations"

Go & ask your gods of men & your kindergarten teacher to explain that sentence you posted on 9th August,2013.

I made that statement and you're telling me to go ask another person to explain my own statement to me.

You see the reason I do say you're too dull.

Emusan LIAR , please allow Psalms 33:6 to saturate your brain & cure you.
Psalms 33:6
"The LORD Jehovah merely spoke, and the heavens were created. He breathed the word, and all the stars were born"

So you mean Jesus isn't the Creator of Heaven or was Jesus using Jehovah word and breath here as your brother claimed Jesus used God's resources

Jesus Christ has spoken to you @ John 17:7 that God gave him life and any other you can think of.

Ozuo pro max.

Where Jesus said God gave Him life in John 17:7?

Lying liar JWs.

Jesus is your Creator

MaxInDHouse:
I wish the two of you agree on whether Catholics are finished or not then let us know the so called Christians you people approved because Dtruthspeaker doesn't believe in any pastor but Emusan believe in pastors though he's shying from acknowledging any of them as his mentor perhaps Jehovah's Witnesses will use the scriptures to prove his pastor is fake!

What is this one saying here?

cornelboy:
I need to understand you guys clearly. You and Emusan.

You don't need to understand us better read your Bible for understanding.

If you say that Jesus was God word in God's mouth, definitely Jesus didn't exist at until he was born on earth.

Does God's word not within the Being of God from eternity?

So if Jesus didn't go back to God's mouth after ascension, it further proves that Jesus life started in Mary's womb.

Yes! Jesus life body started in Mary's womb but the person who took over that body (provided by Mary) has no beginning who is The Word of God.

Heb 10:5 "So when he comes into the world, he says: “‘Sacrifice and offering you did not want, but you prepared a body for me." - NWT

In other words, you're saying that Jesus was created.

The Word of God can't be created!

You guys are really belittling Jesus Christ who was a powerful spirit being in heaven before coming to earth by saying he was just a word in God's mouth. That's so dumb.

Can you imagine this dumbo...

-You claimed Jesus is just a created Being who Jehovah controls at His will.
-You claimed God is so impotent that he can't do things until he used someone else.
-You claimed Jesus is just an ordinary Angel in heaven bla bla

Yet you think people who claim Jesus is the WORD OF GOD are the one belittling Jesus Christ.

So what you're saying is that a powerful spirit being in heaven is far superior to GOD'S WORD.

I ma Se ooo.

He even dropped his glory and was made a little lower than the angels, I.e he became man.

Then why do you claimed He is an Angel?

Jesus Christ had his own free will and was a distinct person from the Father.

Yes! Do you think God is like you or God carried brain cells the way you do?

But if you can see God as immeasurable Being whom no one can phantom His existence then you will know God's Word isn't just ordinary air particles colliding in human lungs to produce sound.

John 17:18,24
[18]Just as you sent me into the world, I am sending them into the world.
[24]Father, I want these whom you have given me to be with me where I am. Then they can see all the glory you gave me because you loved me even before the world began!

How would you explain these above verses with your illogical interpretation 🤔🤔

You didn't explain what the above verses are saying in relation to Creation.

Are you saying these verses proved that Jesus isn't the Creator or what?

because you people like jumping around like kangaroo without addressing the main point.

Janosky:
Emusan post,9th August,2013.
"The word (Jesus) that PROCEEDED from God's mouth is the first thing in ALL creations"

"The word Jesus Christ is a spirit @ Revelation 19:13 & Revelation 3:14 " the beginning (first) of the creation by God"
Emusan LYING Trinitarian
These Trinitarians, TUEH!!

SHAME ON YOU TRINITARIANS

So what's your point here JaNosense?

Janosky:
Emusan LIAR,na WA you Oooooo!
You Trinitarians that said the 2nd Person of your 3 Gods was ordinary human being in the flesh.

Olodo lying liar JWs.

The last time I checked, it you lying liar JWs that claimed Jesus is just an ordinary human being on earth and nothing divine in Him.

So when will you stop lying for your gods?

Janosky:
Emusan LIAR on damage control mode WAILING upandan

The only person doing damage control here is you because you haven't proved your case from the scripture.

Remember you claimed, God is the one who created the Heaven and not Jesus

"Yes! I repeat the Word of God is the first thing at the creation.....Because if God does not speak the Word (Jesus) would not COME OUT.." /APPEAR /EXIST.....
Emusan post,9th August,2013"
Psalms 33:6
"The LORD Jehovah merely spoke, and the heavens were created. He breathed the word, and all the stars were born"

Again, what does this have to do with my point?

Dull JaNosense.

John 17:7
Jesus said:
EVERYTHING I have is a gift from you (God his Father)"

John 17:7 "Now they have come [u]to know[Lu] that all the things you gave me are from you;

I know you don't have sense but try to pick your brain from Hall sometimes.

Dtruthspeaker:
I believe that is the same, since you confess that He was indeed referred to with The Name "Jesus"

When He was called with name Jesus, something has changed that's why the man Jesus wasn't on earth as God and the Creator.

I hope you understand.

cornelboy:
So when Jesus went back into heaven, he went back into God's mouth?

Is that what you read from the scripture?

I said this before, Watchtower has limited God to ordinary human that's why you people think God is just like a random human who exists just as human exists.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is God's son who came down from heaven and there are many spirit sons of God in heaven so he is one of them simple.

But Jesus is the Creator and no sons of God ever claimed that!

All these jargons of God being father, son and at the same time holy ghost is what makes no practical sense!

You think God is like your 8 lying old men in Warwick

It's jargons to you because Watchtower has limited God to ordinary human being to you. God Na your mate

MaxInDHouse:
Anything goes for trinity so far it's not about Jesus (who came from heaven) to be part of God's spirit sons (angels) who are in heaven!

See incoherent jargons.

Jesus came from heaven to be part of God's spirit sons who are in heaven

How does this even make sense to you?

Dtruthspeaker:
I don't understand. Do you not know that it is Jesus Who created the earth at The Command of His Father, The Most High and He Who sits on the Throne?

It's not Jesus but The Word of God.

Though the Word came into the world and was called Jesus.

I hope you understand?

cornelboy:
So you just repeat that without understanding it?

Understanding what? That Jesus is the Word of God

Are you saying Jesus is the word in God's mouth?

Not me that's what the scripture says!

That was the reason the scripture revealed that both The Word and God are Creator and not CREATORS

Janosky:
Emusan post,9th August,2013
" The Word (Jesus) that PROCEEDED from God's mouth is the FIRST THING IN ALL CREATION...."

The same way him fellow Trinitarian, John W said Jesus is a creature (in the screenshot).

Emusan no dey understand him own post because Trinity REMOVED his comprehension skills.
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I know you are dull and when your lies are exposed you switch gear to another lie.

How does this your screenshot disprove any of my points.

Yes! I repeat the Word of God is the first thing at the creation.

You haven't provided where I said THE WORD OF GOD was Created.

Olodo JaNosense

cornelboy:
I don't understand.
What do you mean by saying the son is the word of God?

Not what I say but what the scripture says

Jesus is the Word of God.

Is it a lie?

cornelboy:
Who's the son?

The Word of God who came into creation to redeem Human.

MaxInDHouse:
Why must salvation be through a first century Jewish man called "Jesus"?
Why not through your own daddy?
Or are you saying your own daddy is evil?

God's plan is that salvation will come through the descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob then the child that will be born through that lineage is the wonderful counselor, then a group will emerge as representatives of Jesus {Matthew 24:45} so failure to ACKNOWLEDGE God's plan means you're on your own! Matthew 25:34-46

Now it's about group and not on Jehovah's name anymore as your brother early lied

This is Matt 24:45 “Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?" - NWT

Where does anything like GROUP appear here?

Also, the question is about "A FAITHFUL SERVANT(singular)" and not about "GROUP(plural)"

So who is that SERVANT today that His Master appointed?

Janosky:
Oga, you said "it doesn't always mean JEHOVAH."
Please, tell this forum, which other name is that?

@ Acts 15:14-15 agreed by the disciples and the prophets. @2 Chronicles 7:14 & Isaiah 43:10,21 which name did the holy scriptures reference?

You're still on this your lie!

Why is Russell and his pagan team not bearing Jehovah's name?

I once made a thread on this topic which can be found HERE

One of the major problem of overspending is that Nigeria roads are designed on specific speed that is 100km/hr. So driving above such speed means you're driving against the road design that is the reason why FRSC pegs speed limit at 80km/hr

Janosky:
Emusan lacks 2 important attributes:
Emusan lacks understanding of the holy scriptures and he lacks comprehension skills.

The truth will continue to hit you hard.

Exodus 33:19
"Jehovah replied, “I will make all my goodness pass before you, and I will call out my name, Jehovah before you. For I will show mercy to anyone I choose, and I will show compassion to anyone I choose"

So in a nutshell, Acts 15:6-15 & 2 Chronicles 7:14 you quoted by yourself are not applicable to Russell and his pagan team.

So if you know this verse why then do you condemn people who did not bear Jehovah's name or is it Only Russell and his pagan team that God can have Mercy on?

This was your initial post

Janosky: Oga did the disciples @Acts 15:6-14 & did God confirm @Isaiah43:10,21(ASV), that a prerequisite for salvation is bearing God's name?

@ John 5:43, did Jesus Christ bear your own name?

JWs don't argue against the holy scriptures,as you are doing now.

JWs don't argue against the holy scripture but now that the table has turn to your founder JWs is arguing against the holy scripture

Emusan empty tantrums upandan but not willing to learn & amend....

It's not me who is changing God's word to fit in a founder.

How you people so comfortable with self delusion beyonds any scientific observations

Janosky:

Do it yourself,if you believe.....Hebrews 11:6.

Faith is NOT a possession of all people.


Pray (& fast ,drink lots of water, natural fruit juices, for 2 or 3 days. No TV/laptop viewing,no gbenshing etc. Replace these activities with Exodus 15:1-15 & Psalms 117-118,136-150( Psalms of Praise. )
Praise JAH the Awesome God who broke the bars of your yoke, Leviticus 26:9,13, Jeremiah 30:1,8. Jeremiah 23:29. Matthew 15:13.
Meditate with the points in these cited scriptures as it concerns your own matter.


Also ,if you abandoned or disowned a child you fathered out of wedlock & your legally married wife is yet to take in. Do you wonder why ?
Galatians 6:7, the word of God is true, after all.
You offended God & Man,by your act of irresponsibility/neglect.

The words of an aggrieved, scorned individual (or parent (s) is potent.

The married couple reaps what each one showed as a single person.... 2 become 1.

(True story.... Later...)


Matthew 5:23-24, make peace with your ex you promised to marry & reneged on your promise.
Seek their forgiveness.



Isaiah 44:22,26, your plea for Jah's Mercy & Forgiveness of any sin HE knows that is a hindrance to your Blessings.
HE is the Awesome God making the requests of repentant Sinners come true.
(Whether you had abortions before or not, (or your husband sponsored series of abortions for his fellow fornicators) the Couple must cry to the Almighty with a heart of remorse).


Numbers 23:19-23, pick the points in these verses that apply to you & PRAY with the word of God.

Matthew 15:13 , PRAY with the points as it applies to your own issues.
Jehovah is a HEALER (JEHOVAH RAPHA)

JEHOVAH HEALED HANNAH, SARAH, REBECCA.
Genesis 18:14, Genesis 25:21,Genesis 1:26-28, Genesis 12:2. PRAY, MEDITATE and CONFESS Your name & visualize yourself with Faith RECEIVING your Blessings like Hannah, SARAH REBECCA etc, Matthew 21:22.

Matthew 18:18-19, this matter you have AGREED to present to the Awesome God,JAH would answer in His due time.

Prayerfully copy Hannah's example, she made a vow & received a Blessing,1 Samuel 1 & 2.
Make your Vow (between the Couple & God alone) & fulfill your Vow, Hannah did not renege.

Volunteer your time and resources to help Orphans , the Elderly and the Vulnerable,Acts 20:35.

Jah the Great & Awesome God has NEVER failed.



Note:
Please complete the dosage of your prescription medication & Do NOT rush into the step immediately.
No fasting when you are on Doctor's prescribed medications.

Why you didn't put this in religion section?

because you know your lying mouth will be exposed

But your lying liar brother Maximumu claimed believers are not to fast so you can recommend fasting for solution

So awesome God can give people his OWN ENEMY?

Or

This Awesome God has many of HIS Enemies with Him to give people!



For those in doubt, this man believes ALL Babies are God's enemies just because some random men in Warwick infused it into his dull skull.

Janosky:
Emusan post:" because if God didn't speak, the word (Jesus) will not COME OUT...."

So you haven't provided where I said the word does not exist.
Lying liar JWs.

Emusan even quoted Ephesians 3:14-15 to buttress his point,on 9th August,2013.

Emusan,
@ Psalms 33:6,if God didn't speak will the heaven APPEAR?

Heaven won't APPEAR which means nothing will create Heaven.

Trinity REMOVED your comprehension skills.

Hall has wiped away your Margot brain

Janosky:
According to Acts 15:6-15 & 2 Chronicles 7:14, was Russell bearing Jehovah's name?

I've put it right.

Still waiting for the answer.

Emusan, will Jehovah's assessment/judgement of Mr Russell save you?

I know it will come to this because Russell and his pagan team are now involved and must be fit into that 144,000!

So one needs to bear Jehovah name as a prerequisite for salvation but when it comes to Russell and his pagan team Jehovah needs to overruled His own standard.

When I say you people just like to defend your demonic organisation and not the Word of God. This is the evidence.

The evidence that Russell and his pagan team aren't bearing God's name is there but the mumu JaNosense must defend by force.

@Mightysparrow

Janosky:
Emusan post :" because if God didn't speak, the word (Jesus) will not come out.....",
Emusan even quoted Ephesians 3:14-15 to buttress his point,on 9th August,2013.

Does that mean I say Jesus won't exist?

The lying liar JWs who lack comprehension.

You don't speak but your word is in you

If God didn't speak @Psalms 33:6 & Proverbs 8:27, Emusan will the heaven come out?

"Not COME OUT" olodo but "APPEAR"

Trinity REMOVED your comprehension skills.

Why you still left your brain in the Hall.

Last last, Jesus is the Creator! I know you are pained with that but I must speak the truth to your dull and empty skull.

cornelboy:
Humans create too, so we're Gods and equal to God the Father.

SMILE....You people will not stop to amaze me

I know it's human (those mini gods in Warwick) that created your brain

I only demanded for just single verse where Jesus created anything for many days now no answer

Shalom

Shalomel!!!

Free2airing:
It's better than to he seeing Naira falling

So why is FG hidden under NNPC?

The self acclaimed Accountant couldn't believe his failure!

MaxInDHouse:
I tell you!

No dey hide always come straight

Someone said the father differs from the Son yet he wants to continue arguing blindly.

Was the Father different from the Son the main point or who Created the Universe?

So far so good you haven't been able to point to a single verse where Jesus created anything.

Ọmọ i don't have time for his nonsense!

The same nonsense time you've been having on this forum for how many years now

Your tactics of running away won't work.

Janosky:
Have you forgotten you said Jesus the word will not exist if God did not speak?

I never used the word "EXIST" stop lying for your god.

Emusan,Do everything in heaven and earth owe their name to Jesus? (Emusan screenshot),9th August,2013.

How does this fault my claim?

When you don't know what to say, you begin to beat about the bush

Psalms:6,9
6 By The Word of LORD JEHOVAH the Heavens were made, and all his hosts by The Breath of his mouth.
9Because he spoke and they existed; he commanded and it was established"

That is the Creator Yahweh my God.

Emusan ,What did Jesus create @ Proverbs 8:27 & Psalms 33:6,9?

I've been asking you and your deluded brother this but keep dodging it only for you to turn the question back to me

Your mumu get grade

Emusan WAILER loves MUMU exposure of his poor comprehension skills.[/b]

So shameful that you people couldn't address just a single point of mine but just beating about the bush.

See the great JaNosense who has abandoned his brain in the Hall saying someone lack simple comprehension

Janosky:
Janosky:
"Oga did the disciples @Acts 15:6-14 & did God confirm @Isaiah43:10,21(ASV), that A prerequisite for salvation is bearing God's name"

So did Russell your founder bear God's name?

Why is the question so hard for you?

'A prerequisite', MUMU WAILER

See the meaning of prerequisite in the attached and tell me if Russell and his pagan team bear God's name.

Emusan WAILER you ALWAYS USE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO EXPOSE YOUR POOR COMPREHENSION SKILLS.

Let's see who is always exposing his ignorance here.

I know you won't give a straight answer to that because Russell and his pagan team never bear that name

Janosky:
Oga did the disciples @Acts 15:6-14 & did God confirm @Isaiah43:10,21(ASV), that a prerequisite for salvation is bearing God's name?

I love @underlined part.

So we can conclude that Russell and his pagan team didn't obtain salvation since they never BEARING GOD'S NAME.

I know you'll run into confusion now as you must find a way to fit Russell and his pagan team into 144,000

MaxInDHouse:
Case closed!

Case did not close because that's not the POV, is it?

Jehovah's Witnesses worship only the father who is God and father of Jesus as well as our God and father:

That's your cup of tea

Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

Was this the instructions God given to Jesus at creation?

Till now you can't come up with one just verse where Jesus created one thing or where God gave Jesus command for creation.