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MaxInDHouse:
You're not a Christian, God word says:

Now, he's not a Christian but you are the real Christian.

Later he will be a Christian which belongs to Satan plan while you will be the one bearing the hidden name Jehovah wants to call His people which has been hidden from Satan plan (Christian) from time of Abel.

@IAmANigeriaMan pay attention to this screenshot below

Aemmyjah:
Why not create a thread and ask for those who have seen Jesus?

Look at this thread you're currently, what is the title?

Besides, many threads like have been created in the past.

I did not see him but from what I read about him, he became real to me as if I have seen him and known him

Nobody will beat you for this but take the fact that Jesus Himself promised to REVEAL HIMSELF to those WHO OBEYED AND LOVED HIM.

Besides, seeing Jesus is not
Is that not why Jesus rebuked Thomas
I did not see him
I know him
I love him

Understanding is the key here! Thomas was after SEEING before Believe but Jesus says in John 14:21 that He will do so on His own will.

Through the pages of the Bible, they have revealed themselves to me
Seeing them is not necessary
Most important thing is faith and not sight

Again nobody will beat you for this the fact is that God revealed Himself to people,

People saw Jesus after resurrection

Angels appear to people.

The importance of God, Jesus and Angel revelation is to cast away doubt from human because we're so limited in minds.

So when Jesus promised that "...will clearly show Myself to him"

He knows the reason He made that statement.

We walk by faith not by sight (2 Cor 5:7)
Happy are those who have not seen but yet believe (John 20:29)

All these never disprove that God, Jesus and Angels never appeared to people. Does it?

I have not seen him and I need not see him

That's your choice but Jesus also made His own choice by saying "...will clearly show Myself to him"

I build my faith in him and obey his commandments

Then Jesus will obey His own word when he said "Those who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones who love me. And because they love me, my Father will love them. And I will love them and reveal myself to each of them.”

Pay attention to the @underlineds

I tell others about him and what he'll do

People did this before you and are still doing it or are you the only person who is telling people about Jesus?

Be claiming to see him

Jesus promised that I didn't.

Or was Jesus lying in John 14:21?

Aemmyjah:
No man can see Jesus, he's a spirit
No man can see God
No man can see the angels too

But God revealed Himself to Moses.

People saw Jesus after resurrection or was Jesus not yet a spirit at that time?

Many people saw Angels in the scripture.

Be claiming what you don't know

While you're denying what the scripture says.

We have not see Jesus

Put it better, JWs have not seen Jesus...we understand

But me and many faithful believers have seen Him.

I have never seen him and there's no one I know whether a Witness or not that said Jesus can be seen or they saw him

I know reason why you're twisting and doubting the very word of Jesus in John 14:21.

Jesus made that statement because He wants people to know Him beyond just writings.

Your mind was playing you games

Just as Atheist will say because they don't ever believe such can happen since Bible is just a book.

King James Version
1 Peter 1:8
Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:

According to the verse, did everyone see Jesus?

This verse is simply saying people have not seen Jesus yet They LOVE HIM, how is that hard for you to understand?

You can see the reason you keep jumping from one verse to another when Jesus simply say in John 14:22 that "...and will CLEARLY SHOW Myself to him"

Aemmyjah:
Jesus (in his glorified state) lives in a brilliant light that no man has ever seen him (in such state before he came down to earth as human) and never will (in such state)

Incoherent statement
Did you even read what you wrote here?

But na your eye see am shebi

Jesus revealed Himself to me John 14:21

Has he revealed Himself to you According to John 14:21?

Jesus never said he is God
He prayed to God
He ascended to God
He sat down at the right hand of God
He says he is the son of God
God approved him at his baptism
He came to do God's will
He said no man should address him as good except one, God
He said that all he taught was not from him but from God

Nobody asked you this, I only pointing that part out to see how deluded you people be.

Those word above only used FOR YAHWEH.

The Bible says that the Head (authority) of the woman is the Man, the Head of the Man is the Christ, the Head of the Christ is God...

Na wa oooo

According to amusan, Christ is God. Na your eye see God when the Bible say no man has seen God at any time except the Son who explained him

But according to you 1 Timothy 6:16 no ONE HAS SEEN JESUS OR WILL EVER means Jesus isn't God

Aemmyjah:
Ok, on the highlighted, clap hand for yourself

Thanks to Jesus Himself for that statement in John 14:21

Read 1Timothy 6:16

"He alone can never die, and he lives in light so brilliant that no human can approach him. No human eye has ever seen him, nor ever will. All honor and power to him forever! Amen."

Yet you claimed Jesus isn't God

Besides, has human eyes never saw Jesus?

Anyways, I know you lack comprehension, no one can see God but when God decided to REVEAL HIMSELF to Moses He did it in His own way. So if Jesus Christ promised to REVEAL HIMSELF TO THOSE WHO OBEYED AND LOVED HIM surely, He knows how to do it.

Keep dreaming

because you haven't experienced it.

The experience is so awesome that every believer should desire it but as your organisation has blackened you people's mind to the truth of the scripture, you'll never understand it.

MaxInDHouse:
His type are pagans who feels it's impossible to believe (trust) in what they can't see {John 20:29}

I believe (trust) in Jesus before He REVEALED HIMSELF to me. I didn't even pray that if Jesus didn't reveal Himself to me I won't believe in Him but He did. I understand when you lot can't fulfill certain part of the scripture you begin to twist it. Jesus stated it that "...and will clearly show Myself to him"

so when you're faithful and discreet in what you do they wonder how possible since that's not their own way billions are going through that road {Matthew 7:13-14} their opinion is seeing God before obeying Him

Lying liar JWs.

I'm quoting the very word of Jesus who He promised THOSE WHO OBEYED AND LOVED HIM.

This is what Jesus has done after His resurrection and continue to do.

Show me where you read it on this forum that I say I won't believe in Jesus if He didn't reveal Himself to me.

until they see something supernatural they feel it's stupid having the same line of thought with their fellow human because they're not honest so they feel everyone around them is not honest too but when they see a supernatural being then they'll be submissive!

Just your own figment of imagination.

Here it is again: "Whoever has my commandments and observes them is the one who loves me. In turn, whoever loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will clearly show myself to him.” John 14:21

Jesus promised this by Himself, I know you don't have testimony of this in your midst despite all the lies of we are the only one who OBEYED AND LOVED Jesus, reason why you're all furious about this verse.

Aemmyjah:
Your head de touch
Go offline and sleep abeg

And you couldn't address my post.

But see how you're so toxic in your responses, you lack home training.

How many people in this forum has seen Jesus?

I have and many people have shared their testimony too.

The question is, have you or any JWs do according to Jesus own promise in John 4:21?

De cap nonsense

This is what to say when you don't have scripture to support your claim.

Cybertroll:
Belief in him isn't proof of him.

You're changing your own thread, stay in one place and stop preambulating.

Everything you see, God neither revealed nor taught. We are here thanks to the hardwork and dedication of millions of people of different faiths: christians, muslim, heathens and atheists.

But the fact is the people who believed in Him brought CIVILISATION to you.

His presence? He literally crippled an early civilization. And for what?

You agree someone CRIPPLED early civilisation but you still stated above that "Belief in him isn't proof of him" o ma se oooo

Cybertroll:
Mind you, they were one people before they decided to settle. What's your point?

So you know that and yet failed to understand the angle God was speaking from

So what is the essence of this thread then?

Lmao. What he said was easy to understand.

Yes!

"If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them".

Again, he didn't complain about their disobedience, but their capabilities.

Check very well.

Cybertroll:
Black Africans and defending a borrowed God who's anti-civilization

Now you're derailing your own thread.

He is Anti civilisation yet many of people who believe in Him brought the same civilisation to you.

While the world advances without any opposition from your unusually silent God, you're here excusing why he hindered the progress of the early men for some stupid reason (his insecurity).

At least you recognise His Presence on early men. So why do you think He silent now?

Cybertroll:
Again, if you read the passage, you would see that it wasn't their decision to settle that was the problem, but their pride, they choose to build a city to reach heaven, and that troubled God.

It's the decision to settle that was the problem. Read to understand next time.

Again: Genesis 11:6 The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them.

The above is a simple English.

If he was offended by their disobedience, he could easily have punished them (he's done that many times)... He didn't have to utter the aforementioned statement. That's telling. Almost at though he were scared of their capabilities.

He is not offended but just following His own plan.

You can't tell Him what to say and not what to say besides, the language above is easy to comprehend without injecting your own interpretation.

Cybertroll:
What makes you think God was pro-exploration? Next time, read.

You're the very one who didn't read.

God was not against them for the building but idea of staying in one location.

If God wanted to create different languages, he could have easily done so without hindering their progress.

Besides:

Who are you to tell God how to do His business?

Cybertroll:
4 Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”

You're the one who quoted this scripture yet failed to see @underlined part.

Aemmyjah:
ON the highlighted, I don't deny that Jesus has not been revealed to some persons while here in earth as to physical appearance

Did Jesus not reveal Himself to people after Resurrection?

is it everyone that saw him? Simple question

Yes!

So have you seen Him or any JWs seen Him as He promised?

Who is feeling pains? U de zuzu

Definitely you are!

So which definition did you go with from this dictionary?

Notice that the second one goes against Watchtower claim.

PJ123:
I suppose you are the one mistaken here.

No! You are.

You really need to go and read everything carefully and digest it with an objective mind.

Did you follow this your own advice?

BAT's lawyers were not requesting for rerun, you need to read the whole story as published by "This Day Newspaper" and not the headline.

Can you imagine, you are reading what a newspaper says and arguing with people who are in court. Is that not ridiculous?

The lawyers were responding to Obi's request to cancel the victory of Tinubu. And the implication of that is a rerun.

Yes Obi petitions is to disqualify Tinubu because he's not qualify to be elected as Nigeria president based on many issues which were highlighted from his petitions and never pushed for a rerun.

And they were replying him that even if the rerun is to hold, that Obi is not qualified for rerun.

No! They know those petitions have weight and using style to push for technicalities.

That was where BAT lawyers mentioned rerun.

You agree they brought the issue of rerun, so why saying No before?

On your argument of disqualifying BAT, I would leave that to court decide as the the case is already before the court.

OKay

leanonme82:
Of course. In their final address, his defense never mentioned anywhere that he won. Only his Obi supporters go around saying that.

They just wrote that they want Tinubu disqualified because of pre-election issues that have no leg.

You people are just so funny or maybe it's a deliberate act.

Anyways, why do you think Tinubu Lawyers are pushing for a rerun without Obi?

In another angle, is Tinubu not deserved to be disqualified?

Someone who involved in narcotic and money laundry which even his lawyers agree that he actually committed the offence but just that it's already more than 10years.

I believe people like you will be pushing for someone like Husipuppy to be president or Governor in later years.

Janosky:
Your comprehension skills leaves much to be desired.

Next time speak English so that people will understand you.

Not interested in your GIBBERISH.

Am I the one who invited you in the first place?

Please,Go & study your Bible & have peace.

If I didn't study my Bible I won't be able to counter your lies and deceptions.

You're the one who needs to leave Watchtower magazine and read the Word of God undiluted.

Janosky:
You are like the student who knows that his school authorities ALWAYS speak bad about shabby dressing but you go ahead to dress shabbily and claim that shabby dressing is not bad as long as you are not wearing school uniform.

Very meaningless analogue

Reason why you never answer questions

Shabby dressing is shabby dressing whether you wear school uniform or not.

Then did Bible condemn Birthday?

Will stillbirth/aborted babies be resurrected?

Did your own Bible ALWAYS speak bad about birthdays?
Yes.

Then did your own Bible not say God destroyed babies in Sodom and Gomarrah? Yes!

Birthday celebrations are for pagans.

I know your blood will get hot as soon as you see topic to deviate to but trust me I won't allow that.

The point here is did Bible condemn Birthday before you place judgement of it being of pagan?

If I ask you to show where Bible says Birthday is of pagan now, you'll start preambulating.

This is the principle in your Bible.
Know that & have peace.[/b]

Then why can't you also apply the same principle to stillbirth/aborted babies?

Janosky:
Your comprehension skills leaves much to be desired.

Next time speak proper English

jaephoenix:
No. They are intelligent questions.

It's actually unintelligent question.

If its pointless, answer it and prove to me they are pointless.

I should answer a pointless question

Is there evidence that Moses in fact parted the Red Sea? If you have any, lets have it

If you have evidence what do you still want to TEST?

That shows you don't understand yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
The only thing first century Jewish disciples of Christ saw was the fulfilment of prophecies:
©A man came crying in the wilderness talking to Jews about the coming of Christ (Messiah)
©Jesus of Nazareth began his ministry preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all the territories of Judah.
©He was hated and the Jews themselves conspired against him.
©He was betrayed for thirty pieces of silver coins.
©He was executed along with criminals.

So they are not telling the Jews to become Christian again

This are the events everyone noticed apart from the ones his own disciples BELIEVED after seeing for themselves.

I simply asked you proof your lie that they were asking people to join CHRISTIAN.

I didn't ask you story Mr storyteller

So after Jesus what proved that his disciples has been approved by God and that Jews who failed to believe him are doomed?

At Pentecost God fulfilled His promises sending the Holy Spirit to ordain believing Jews
They spoke in tongues and ever since then miracles were happening through the hands of Jewish disciples of Christ.

So if any Jew in the first century still harbour doubts after witnessing all of these such one has been judged already. The thief Jesus blessed only noticed one fulfilled prophecy:
A good prophet is being executed beside him so he remembered immediately that's what the scriptures say about the Christ.

There are lots and lots of fulfilled prophecies pointing to Jehovah's Witnesses organization as the one and only group of true Christians today so if you're not interested in knowing ọmọ keep your unbelief to yourself!

Mr storyteller, where did disciples ask people to become Christian is what I asked you.

Or the disciples didn't ask the Jews to become Christian again according to your early claimed?


Below is your previous post where you claimed the name CHRISTIAN was part of Satan plan.

So how can Jesus disciples will be asking people to become what was Satan plan?

Lying liar JWs!

Janosky:
Did your own Bible tell you the punishment God gave still births or aborted babies?

Since Bible didn't say it, how many things Bible didn't say and yet JWs drawn their judgement?

Did Bible condemn Birthday, No! Yet JWs used what happened to people who celebrated Birthday to condemn it.

MUMU man, from Genesis to Revelation, did God punish any dead body?

You haven't answered the question.

Will stillbirth/aborted babies be resurrected?

You know how many times you've dodged this simple question?

E get why...

Carry your GIBBERISH outta here ![/b]

Says Mr gibberish typer

jaephoenix:
No its not. Just answer the question. Why do people evade my questions here. First these agnostics, now this theist

because your questions are pointless!

Imagine asking "if there is EVIDENCE of Moses parted red sea for it to BE TESTED"

MaxInDHouse:
NO it's the same breathe God gave to all {Ecclesiastes 3:19} our brain is what makes us unique the capacity is of the highest order!

But the same Ecclesiastical says man's spirit will return to God. Why the animals will return to Earth

MaxInDHouse:
Imagine a first century Jew who have the Old Testament and someone told him if he did not convert to Christian he can't see God's kingdom!

Where did the disciples preach to the Jews that they need to convert to Christian?

And this is coming from someone who claimed the name "Christian" was given by Satan to mock them but the disciples just adopted it till real name God wants to call His people will be revealed

You people are so funny, your brother Janosense is trying to proof that bearing God's name which is JEHOVAH WITNESS is what needed for salvation but here you're coming with another contradictory statement

Janosky:
Mumu Emusan,if you no MUMU, provide the Bible chapters (s) & verse (s) ?

Abi, you no Sabi your Bible?

Resurrected in Emusan's womb?

.

So pathetic of the Mr gibberish typer

Are stillbirth not yet human or aborted babies not yet human?

The more you keep dodging that question the more I'll bring it up to press your neck because you must understand Bible by fire by force irrespective of damage done to your brain caused by brainwashing from Watchtower

I've seen different comments here which actually don't reflect on the topic of Baptism.

A good Bible student will know they're many Baptism scripture talks about. So, if this can be established, then answer to your question will just be one way straight.

Firstly, there is Baptism of Repentance: This is what John the Baptist preached and this was acknowledged by Jesus Christ and the apostles. The right question to ask here will be, was this mandatory for Christians?

Well, the answer is, the scripture didn't outrightly say Yes! Though the Disciples of Jesus Christ Baptized people in the presence of Jesus and Jesus didn't forbid them and some might say Matt 28:19 is where Jesus says people should be Baptized. This will be addressed as we go forward. Moreover, the scripture has examples of people who are still stuck in the Baptism of Repentance but the disciples still need to put them in the right way of God perfectly. Luke 18:25-26

Secondly, Baptism of Holy Spirit/fire: Jesus is the one who will perform this on His people.

Thirdly, Baptism of Suffering/Death: This particular one was first experienced by Christ Himself and Jesus says some will also passed through it Luke 12:50 and apostle Paul elaborates on this as we're buried with Christ in Baptism.

Fourthly, Baptism of Seal to the body of Christ: This particular one is what Jesus instructed people should do in Matt 28:19 "Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit."

Notice that this particular one, the person has already BELIEVED AND ACCEPTED CHRIST before this is done.

Lastly, with the foregoing, the question Does Baptism require for salvation? can be rightly answered as capital NO but Baptism is EMBEDDED in salvation.

Janosky:
The children of Noah's day and the children of Sodom and Gomorrah were God's enemies.

Both events are examples of God's thought on this matter.

So will stillbirth/aborted babies be resurrected?

Use your brain Mr Emusan MUMU WAILER.

Do you use your own brain Mr gibberish typer?

Janosky:
Emusan MUMU pass his post.

Oga, if you get liver, how many infants survived the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah?

Were the children of Noah's day God's enemies?

If you're not mumu and empty upstairs, I asked you question first. So you should answer that.

Here it is again:

Are children enemies of God? Jws Yes!

Will stillbirth/miscarriage babies be resurrected?

Jws, we don't know, since Bible didn't come out straight on this.

jaephoenix:
Lol. Ok.
Do you know me? Do you know if I have wings and can fly?

Out of the topic!

jaephoenix:
Good. That dictionary used an example. That is rising from the grave. Now if someone rises from the grave, do you see the person as a breathing and living being, or dead?

See question

jaephoenix:
I should be asking you the same.
We were having a perfectly sane discourse and you started quoting some fairy tales

What is fairy tale in that statement?

You didn't even bother to answer my question before you deviated.