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MaxInDHouse:
Quote what Paul and John penned down word for word!

You mean what I quoted above isn't Bible passage of 2 John 1: 10-11?

I've done that on this same thread.

How will you see them them when you're just arguing blindly without reading post?

MaxInDHouse:
QUOTE! QUOTE!! QUOTE!!!
What is written in the verse we are discussing!

Were you sleeping when you quoted this POST?

mcquin:
This one weak me. Guy I been support subsidy removal but the inflation dey reset brain.

One thing that you people don't realise is that, the current leaders are very evil.

Go back the time when GEJ proposed subsidy removal, you'll see you he pointed out how the money will be spent including building new refineries. (Even though I supported the removal of subsidy by GEJ but I know he can't fulfill those proposal 100% but at least I see the right pattern in his proposal.

But come to this administration, no clear plan on what the subsidy will be spent on and before subsidy can be removed why can't you encourage the little you can with the local manufacturers.

But guess what they won't do that because those local manufacturer products aren't coming through Lagos but based in SS.

You want to remove subsidy but you are still importing fuel and not exporting enough products to counter it.

MaxInDHouse:
Please quote from any version of your choice because in my own version Paul and John didn't say their teaching but THEM!

The one I quoted below in my post is from which book?

You cited 2 John 1:10-11 and I quoted it for you to see.

You can clearly see "NOT TEACHING THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS" and not excommunication you JWs practices today.

Read Bible once for yourself and stop following man made doctrines.

MaxInDHouse:
Paul say "AVOID THEM"
John say "DON'T GREET, DON'T EAT, DON'T WELCOME THEM"

1. Avoid their teaching says Paul.
2. Don't greet or welcome their TEACHINGS says John.

You're free to practice whatever your religion say but from my own opinion what Paul and John meant is EXCOMMUNICATION!

Not from your own opinion but the opinions of your gods in Warwick but try to read for yourself with due diligence.

"If anyone comes to your meeting and does not teach the truth about Christ, don’t invite that person into your home or give any kind of encouragement. Anyone who encourages such people becomes a partner in their evil work."

Not TEACHING the TRUTH about Jesus Christ which is about THEIR TEACHING not the type JWs preaches today.

MaxInDHouse:
EXCOMMUNICATION (DISFELLOWSHIP) is the one and only punishment amongst first century Christians that's because anyone who goes against tenets has turned his or her back on the faith {1John 2:19} that's why apostle John said true Christians shouldn't allow such ones in their homes neither eat with them nor even greet them! 2John 1:10-11

You're still wrongly interpreting that John messages and you can't force your own ruling on God's word.

You don't know more than who inspired John and Paul not to use the word EXCOMMUNICATION OR DISFELLOWSHIP

Those messages are so straight forward "don't welcome their "TEACHINGS"" not what you JWs are doing today.

lawani:
If you are in a group or association in which you will be killed if you leave or you are being threatened of hell fire if you leave, then you are in a cult group. It does not matter if they are non violent. Threatening people with hell fire is enough. When you remain in such a group Oyeku meji is cast for you and you need to watch it.

There's no group or association that doesn't have punishment for the wrong doing of their members. So if you want to be objective, don't limit it to kill and Hell Fire threat alone.

MaxInDHouse:
Read the verse below:
Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them! Romans 16:17

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works. 2John 1:10-11

Please answer this question:

Does the above excommunication rule from two apostles of Christ include immediate family members who turned against the faith?

There's nothing excommunication rule from those verses it's just another man made doctrine.

Those two verses is talking about avoiding/stay away from their TEACHINGS l.

Compare what those verses are saying to what your organisation is doing today objectively you'll see the clear picture.

Nvestor02:
He has the best plan of all the government, the current situation in Nigeria may not be lovely but e go sweet at the end

How will it sweet at the end?

Didn't the same thing happen during Buhari regime?

No wonder fraudster always have feed day on Nigerians

philo3:
Hey Good evening , please I need experienced and matured minded answers on this thread
.
I have a girl I love and if God willing marry her
She's humble, submissive , and posseses good qualities of a wife material.
I senior her with just months in age . same year of birth.
Can that marriage work out well because I have this ideology that the husband should senior his wife by some years at least 2years.

There's a reason why God created Adam first before creating his wife...

Think about that!

Intrepid01:
Many political babies on this forum. So if Tinubu and Atiku should go for a re- run, Tinubu will lose abi? Plenty mumu, you don’t even know the power accrued to a sitting President. If Atiku with all his supporters in APC who worked against Tinubu could not win the real election, it is when Tinubu is now sitting as the President that he’ll win right? Why do you think Tinubu is trying to give ministerial appointments to party members from PDP, LP and even NNPP? Just underrate that guy at your peril. The way Tinubu will defeat Atiku in Adamawa sef go shock you. You people don’t know the power of an incubent President like Tinubu.

You're really olodo...

So you don't know that the moment court declared a re-run, Tinubu stop being A PRESIDENT and vacate Aso Rock immediately.

So you think he will still be in Aso Rock while the re-run will be going on or still be called The President

SMH

SangoOlukosoOba:
Psalms 51:5

Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.


They are going to hell because they never had the chance to repent.

That's not what the Psalmist says in that verse!

Sinful from birth and conceived from sin means our nature is already prone to evil and will end in death.

TheBillyonaire:
If someone is like your Papa, then he can do your father's job. That is the meaning. I hope it is clear that Abuja is like a State and nothing special about it.

Yes he can but not actually my father, that's not the meaning. Abuja is FCT if I ask you, how many states are in Nigeria? Your answer will be 36 and FCT.

So Abuja forever remains FCT and not A STATE until another Change happened to it.

TheBillyonaire:
Winning 25% in Abuja is nonsense.

Abuja is like 37th State, so if any Candidate won 25% of 37 States, it should be fine.

What is special about Abuja that residents must know Candidate enough to give 25% votes.

Makes no sense.

I wonder when where you people learn English from.

The usage of "LIKE" is what you people can't ramp your head with since.

You're LIKE your father does that mean YOU'RE THE VERY PERSON OF YOUR FATHER

You claimed Abuja is LIKE other states but you'll never call Abuja a state.

helinues:
Stop talking nonsense. Where were you when the judgement was made?

I was in Nigeria at that time and also on Nairaland!

Do you have a clue about my position on the judgement?

This is not the point I raised!

You accused a whole tribe for accepting the judgement and I asked you what will you have suggested for them to do at that?

helinues:
That such goes in SE dont mean any other regions can tolerate such not to talk of Nigeria.

This is pure hypocrisy!

If the people of that region had rose up to challenge the ruling of Supreme Court at that time. People like you will still be the one saying they're rising against the highest order of the land.

So let me ask you, what will you have suggested the Imo people should have done after that SC ruling?

MaxInDHouse:
So out of all the religions claiming believers in Christ with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines only Jehovah's Witnesses have man-made doctrines while thousands of others are biblical doctrines shey?
Thanks for your time!

And it's not only JWs I've discussed on doctrines with.

So what's your point?

Throwback:
Because the and FCT is part of the totality of Nigeria.

If you are required to get 25% in 2/3 of Nigeria, that is 25% in 36 States and FCT.

Tinubu got it in 29 of (36 States and FCT).

But that statement is still not about 36 states but what Tinubu got in 29 states.

The question still beg for, why adding AND FCT when he didn't get 25% or above that?

You can keep defending the rubbish.

Throwback:
Yes 29 (states and FCT) was mentioned because that is what Tinubu got out of (all states and FCT).

Why mentioned "AND FCT" when he didn't get 25% or above 25% in FCT?

The Nigerian federation is composed of States and FCT.

We know that

Did Tinubu get 25% in 2/3 of the federation of Nigeria (36 States and FCT)

Yes he did.

But this is not what that statement says"

The statement read "The 2nd respondent polled more than 25% in total votes cast in 29 states of the federation and FCT"

Why inserting"AND FCT" when the statement isn't about 36 states of the federation and FCT?

Keep defending rubbish!

MaxInDHouse:
I can quote up to 50 posts where you criticized Jehovah's Witnesses.
So quote just one where you criticized any other church apart from Jehovah's Witnesses!

The burden is on you to provide the proof since you're so sure of it.

Besides, I don't criticized any church but only rejected man made doctrines being pushed.

seunmsg:
This is my last response to you guys on this thread.

You don't need to tell us Mr.

When people see white and want to disingenuously keep arguing that they saw black, there is no way to help such people.

You're the very one who is seeing White and call it Black and you've also lost your conscience.

The federation is made up of 36 states and the FCT.

But that statement isn't about the FEDERATION but where VOTES SCORED ABOVE 25%.

The constitution says the winner must score 25% of total vote cast in 2/3 of the states and FCT.

Then the statement should've just read 25% in 2/3 of the 36 states and the FCT.

Tinubu told the court he scored 25% and above in 29 states and the FCT.

Did he score 25% or above 25% in FCT?

If you haven't lost your conscience, how can you defend this plain English?

So, what is there not to understand? Where exactly did he list FCT as one of the 29 states he won?

You're the one who made this statement "Tinubu told the court he scored 25% and above in 29 states and the FCT." not me.

Read this statement slowly then ask your children to read it as well and they should explain it to you.

Throwback:
what the Tinubu team did is to restate what is in the constitution, which is 25% in 2/3 of all states and FCT.

But that's not what the statement above says.

All states and FCT is 36 States and FCT which is what makes up the federation of Nigeria.

But it's not 36 states that was mentioned only 29 states.

Has Tinubu achieve 25% in 2/3 of Nigeria's federation?

The answer is Yes.

You're the one reading it that way.

That's not what the above statement says.

No candidate needs any particular state and FCT, only to get the requirement in 25% of (all states and FCT).

But he didn't get it in FCT.

seunmsg:
Is the federation made up of 36 states and the FCT or not?

Was 36 states mentioned in that statement?

Why not make the statement this way?

"having score above 25% of total votes cast in 29 states out of 36 states of the federation and the FCT"

seunmsg:
Is the federation made up of 36 states and the FCT?

You're just a pure illiterate!

That statement is too straight forward.

"Having score above 25% in 29 states of the federation and the FCT."

Why are you people like this without conscience?

This is a technical point being raised here.

MaxInDHouse:
So you know Jehovah's Witnesses aren't part of you people!

Is that answer to your false accusation?

yemex04:
I should call him a Money Launderer because someone like you says so? You that have proven that you know not what you are doing?
No!

You see the reason why you have no right to talk about anything integrity.

The witness who witnessed for Tinubu in court agreed that the forfeiture money is from narcotic rated and money laundering.

Just like I said, you're only defending Tinubu because either as a Yoruba or Muslim not because you like justice.

MaxInDHouse:
Please quote any of your previous posts where you openly criticize any religion claiming they're believers in Christ apart from Jehovah's Witnesses.

Smile.... imagine given me assignment for your false accusation.

Above is your post where you grouped all sects claiming Christians together as one but you've always been criticizing Jehovah's Witnesses.
WHY?
Because you know we are no part of you people!

Yes I did because every denominations claimed to be Christian just as the early churches which Jesus Christ corrected had different view on doctrines but never deny themselves.

You claimed you're not part but also dragging the name Christian with us.

So you can't eat your cake and also have it

And i have never agreed that you are a Christian

You don't need to agree because you're not Jesus and I don't even need your agreement.

so you're claiming it but i and any other Jehovah's witness can never agree that you're a Christian

The last time I checked, you're the one doing attache by force. You have already claimed you're not a Christian as the name Christianity had been bastardized reason why your god gave you a new name.

So when it comes to who is a Christian, you're not part of us and I wonder why the recent attached to the same name your god has discarded

just as Jesus Christ never agreed with the sects claiming worshipers of Jehovah but refused to see matters from his viewpoint.

And are you Jesus Christ?

Do you agree with the terms and conditions that's making Jehovah's Witnesses one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers?

I only follow what the Bible says and not a man made doctrine.

If you don't then you're not a Christian!

Just as you're not a Christian as the name Christian has been bastardized

yemex04:
Chief.. your Lie was bursted & you should be ashamed of yourself.

I'm not the one defending a certificate forger, money launderer & drug lord.

You should be the one who should be ashamed of himself.

You alleged that he submitted Certificate of National Service in 1999 & submitted NYSC Letter of Exemption in 2023...And I proved you wrong with what he submitted in 2023 which is clearly contrary to your misinformation.

Yes! You didn't that's why I asked you to provide what he submitted in 1999.

Definitely, I might mix them together but one thing is sure what he submitted in 1999 is different from what he submitted in 2022.

You lie I didn't say 2023 but 2022.

You don't even have a single proof of this & yet you delight in spreading falsehood

Everything was proved in the court with evidences.

Anyone with integrity will promote Facts only not falsehood thinking everyone here will feed on it.You are too old for this o.

You don't even have to mention anything integrity when you can boldly be defending a certificate forger, money launderer & drug lord.

MaxInDHouse:
At least you have never ever criticize any other religion claiming believers in Christ apart from Jehovah's Witnesses.

How do you know this?

I guess, you live in me

You have started your delusion

Because you know we are not part of you people!

But you agree that you're a Christian.

MaxInDHouse:
If Jesus said his disciples will have be united so if there's no unity then they don't believe in Jesus.

He didn't say it rather he prayed for it.

And the same Jesus corrected the early churches without claiming they're not united.

Jehovah's Witnesses organization are not part of your contradictions

But JWs is part of the Christian denominations with different contradictory teachings according to you

that's why we stand out never part of you people neither do we pretend worshipping nor pray hypocritically with you people. John 17:8-9

But you answer the same name as Christian or tick the same religion box as Christian even though you once claimed the name Christian has been bastardized

Muslims claims just as you people also claim!

Muslims claim is not about Jesus Christ of Nazareth. So come with another lie.

MaxInDHouse:
Why not quote that passage if you're not just deceiving yourself?

You should have done that not me!

So it's PHRASE you want to see instead of view of first century Christians?
Ọmọ read what Apostles Paul wrote @ 1Corinthians 1:10 and Ephesians 4:3

"Line of thought" is part of man made doctrine.

Provide where Bible mentioned "Line of thought"

NO! Watchtower never agree to be part of you people!

But Watchtower is also part of Christian denominations

Or under what religion is Watchtower grouped?

MaxInDHouse:
Proverbs 2:1-5

Provide Nevers says that.

That true Christians must have the same line of thought {John 17:22; 1 Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3}

"Line of thought" Is part of man made doctrine.

You're not wiser than Jesus or the apostles who never used that phrase.

not contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines! 1Corinthians 14:33

And Watchtower is also part of the contradicting doctrines like ONE LINE OF THOUGHT.