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I'll be spending Christmas in the same place I spend every other day.

At work.

I'll be spending Christmas in the same place I spend every other day. At work.

macof: Lol see this funny guy
Have u ever studied and researched to prove that any of this poo u get from scientist is actually right?

Yes

macof: This is just cheap talk bring up ur philosophy And stop dwelling on wat people tell u without proof

This is called the “cover your ears and sing lalala" defence.

The theory you're claiming has no proof just happens to be the best supported theory in all of science and the basis of everything we know about biology.

There is more evidence for evolution than there is for the theory that infectious diseases are caused by germs. Yet I'm sure if your child was sick and needed antibiotics, you wouldn't start demanding for an African version of the germ theory of disease.

“Doctor, why don't you bring up your own philosophy and stop dwelling on this ‘bacterial meningitis' stuff oyimbos told you without proof."

Stop talking rubbish

FOLYKAZE: Black man cry. Lol.

You missed it completely.

You have seen where i based this talk when thenomer said Africans do not know anything about river niger not until park came.

Evolution is an insult on blacks. Even Darwin said some insultive words cunning it out of evolution theory.

Do you know what Ape-insult is?

Stop talking rubbish about Darwin, please. Of all the people you could abuse, you went and picked the least racist person in England at that time. The same Charles Darwin who controversially argued that there was no difference in intelligence between white men and “savages" (read his Descent of Man if you don't believe). You've quoted his “civilized races will exterminate less civilized races" statement out of context to twist his words. FYI, Darwin also wrote extensively about the different races of cabbage. So when he spoke of races he was talking about people wiping out chimpanzees and gorillas (something that is actually happening right now) not whites killing blacks.

Please, stop talking rubbish.

Where did I say evolution is wrong? If you want me to accept it, give me tangible evidence and not theories.

Why did you disbelief in Yahweh.....no evidence right?

So you want me to accept evolution without physical and tangible evidence......if you have believed in Jesus base on the theological account, I would have believe in evolution base on the written theories.

Racism apart.....give me evidence and I back off.

Ignorance. You clearly don't even know what the a scientific theory is. If you have internet access, and you still want to claim that you haven't seen tangible evidence for evolution, then I doubt if I can do anything to reduce your ignorance since you clearly aren't interested in learning anything.

Never the less, I'm going to try. Follow the [url=darwin200.christs.cam.ac.uk/pages/index.php?page_id=j] link[/url] and educate yourself. The site is for kids so even you should be able to understand it.

FOLYKAZE: Dr James Watson said Africans are less intelligent. http://mightyminnow./2007/10/18/black-people-are-less-intelligent-says-dr-james-watson-nobel-prize-winner-and-dna-pioneer/
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James Watson is a senile old man who's racist views have been condemned by scientists the world over. Also, the vast majority of scientific evidence completely contradicts Watson's beliefs. The beautiful thing about science is that anybody can come out and say anything, but only hypotheses that are supported by evidence and survive experimental testing will the accepted by the scientific community.

The fact is that we are apes. Every single human being on this planet (including Dr. James Watson) is an African ape, the same taxonomic group that includes chimpanzees, bonobos and gorillas. We are all apes in the same way we are all hominids, primates, mammals, vertebrates, chordates, animals and eukaryotes.

You are not a cyanobacteria or a jellyfish, or a gastropod, or an insect, or a reptile, or a spider monkey. You are an ape, one of the greater apes, specifically the African apes, a member of the hominid subfamily, the genus homo, and the species sapiens.

You don't even need to believe in evolution to prove this. Just compare your anatomy with those of all of those creatures, note the similarities and differences, and apply your common sense.

Please stop all this “evolution insults Africans" nonsense. There might be oyimbo racists reading this who want to prove that Africans are dumb. Stop giving them ammunition.

FOLYKAZE: In western science....you know what black is according to this subject: intelligence evolution and race.

A beg, stop spreading ignorance here. If you don't understand the theory of evolution, maybe you should go and read a biology textbook before you start posting nonsense.

There is nothing inherently racist about evolution. Its just a theory about how life changes over time in response to environmental factors. And like any other scientific theory, it is politically and racially neutral. In fact, it was Darwin himself that debunked all the racist pseudo scientists who were claiming that we blacks were a desperate species more closely related to gorillas and chimps.

You accuse others of being mental slaves, yet you are the one who is parroting the brain dead beliefs of ignorant oyimbo Christians fundamentalists who refuse to accept even basic, common sense science once it conflicts with anything in their bible.

Maybe you should look inwards first before you start accussing others.

Most people actually think Harold Camping wrongly predicted the date of the rapture when in actual fact, he was right. The only reason it didn't happen is that the day before, [url=edition.cnn.com/2011/US/05/20/florida.wrestler.dead/]“Macho Man" Randy Savage[/url] gave his life, went up to heaven, and delivered a flying elbow-drop to Jesus's forehead; knocking him out cold, preventing the rapture and saving us all.

We all owe him a huge dept of gratitude. RIP Macho.

macof: For some reasons I agree with the topic.

I feel atheist, at least the NL ones are zombies who can't reason and aren't rational at all.

They are common puppets to western science

Western science? So science and rationality belong exclusively to oyimbos now?

I suppose you also think being a superstitious môron is required to be a true African.

N.B. Its not ironic at all that you can call others "slaves to western science" just because they don't buy your western religion.

Pagan festivals to celebrate the winter solstice (and the births of various gods) on December 25th have existed for at least 2000 years before Christianity. The roman politicians who invented Christianity just hijacked the celebration and rebranded it just like they did with Easter.

Also, there are plenty of other holidays around the same time like the pagan Saturnalia (Dec 25) Jewish Hanukkah (variable), the Dutch festival of Saint Nicholas (Dec 5), the African-American Kwanzaa (Dec 26), and the secular new year's day. There are plenty of people who aren't Christians, and don't give a crâp about the baby Jesus celebrating in December as well. Saying "Happy Holidays" is simply showing inclusiveness and respect for other cultures.

The pope has definitely done the job he was appointed for: distract the world from the church's crimes including the systematic coverup of massive, worldwide child sex abuse.

The Vatican hasn't stopped protecting child molesters since Francis took over. Just a few months ago they recalled their ambassador to the Dominican republic just as the authorities there were preparing to investigate him for ráping at least 6 boys. Of course, there is no chance of him being prosecuted in Vatican city. Ràping children wasn't even illegal there until a few months ago.

Another pèdophile priest gets to escape punishment and nothing has changed except the name of the pope.

mumumugu: That is old testament. New testament is vital christianity

Ephesians, 1 Timothy and The Gospel of Luke are in the old testament? Seriously?!?

OLAADEGBU: Famous atheist evolutionist comes unstuck - He avoids answering the question.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX7Htg2HxkA

Question: Can you give an example of a genetic mutation or an evolutionary process which can be seen to increase the information in the genome?

Watch the apostle of evolutionary theory stammer and hum his way into not answering this question. He didn't want to answer the question, so he changed the topic altogether. How diplomatic of him

Polyploidy.

Any other questions?

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Women are the gatekeepers of almost all the negative antifemale traditions in Africa. It's women that enforce widowhood rituals, it's them that usually insist that female children are génitally mutilated in areas where it's practiced. When a married woman has problems getting pregnant or has only girls, it's almost always the husband's mother and sisters that insist in kicking her out of her marital home.

Given all the above, I don't see any reason why any woman should be surprised that another woman blocks her progress at work. Women are not a political party or a football team that you expect to work together for each other's progress, It's not as simple as that.

Each woman has different priorities and motivations. Helping other women is not necessarily in a woman's interest. Most of them have other concerns that may require pulling another woman down to fulfill.

seniourman: [size=24pt] Seun please this is fake ps4 is not less than 200k, the only ps of 60k is ps3 if ps4 is 60k den ps3 is how many thousand then ps2 is how nuch....
If ps4 happens to be 60k they did,nt tell us if its fairly used .. or some things in the ps4 is removed...

Plz clerify us[/size]

The PS4 is only $400 (N63,000) in the US including taxes and profit for the sellers. It's just that greedy, fraudulent Nigerian retailers that have artificially jacked the price up to N138k so they can squeeze money out of people.

All these people are doing is selling the thing for the real price instead of the usual fraudulent one. That's not a sale as far as I'm concerned.

Edit:I meant the PS4, not PS3. The PS3 is actually selling for between $200-$250 depending on the bundled games.

novicali: So virginity is the scale to weigh the value of a woman? What about the quality of training she obtained? What about the amount wisdom she is endowed with? Meanwhile your name is too scary can you please change it

According to the bible, the value of a woman is absolutely determined by her virginity. It even goes as far as putting a price (50 shekels of silver) on it. The bible treats ráping a virgin without her father's permission as a tort issue, not a criminal one. Once you compensate the dad with his 50 shekels and marry the now worthless girl, the whole issue is settled regardless of what the victim wants.

If you have a problem with this, you should take it up with god or your pastor. I'm not a Christian so, don't complain to me. I didn't write the bible and I don't subscribe to its twisted morality.

Also, I like my name the way it is. I'm not changing it for anybody.

If you read the bible and the Koran. you'll see that women ate eessentially property for men's use and enjoyment. A woman who is not a virgin is just like a second hand car, she is damaged goods with reduced value and nobody wants to pay full price for something like that.

All the metaphysical cráp that honeric01 is spewing is just a way to rationalize away the ugly underbelly of his faith. "Because women receive, that's why they must be virgins and men don't." "Its because women are vessels, we're not a bunch of sexist hypocrites at all".

Simple, religion is bad for humanity.

By undermining and weakening people's faith; we are reducing the influence of religion on mankind and making the world a better place, one deconversion at a time.

We don't even need to deconvert people. Just making the public more sceptical of religion and the charlatans that promote it goes a long way.

There's nothing particularly impressive about the video. Trepanning or trephination is one of the oldest known surgical operations known. They've found skulls more than 8000 years old in Europe with holes in them and evidence of bone healing, meaning that the subjects survived. For Africans to be celebrating something that Europeans were doing in prehistoric times and have long since abandoned doesn’t exactly paint us in a good light.

Aside from that, as a surgeon, I have some serious objections to the way the procedure is depicted in the video. For one, trepanning is only beneficial in people who have had severe trauma to the head. To do something as drastic as brain surgery for conditions like "simple headache" is totally irresponsible. They even mentioned a person in the video who had had the surgery 13 times!!! There is no excuse for opening any part of the body 13 times, no the talk of opening the skull with no antibiotics and in dirty conditions. If 2 or 3 surgeries are not enough to solve the patient's problem, it's unlikely that more will.

Any doctor that opens someone's skull 13 different times should have his licence taken away for public safety reasons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trepanning

soul_glo: The penis has foreskin. That is totally different from cutting off a clitoris or even in some really brutal ones they cut of everything and sew up the hole and leave just a little bit for when she starts her period. For many it is a life time of pain and shame. It is nothing like male circumcision

The clítoris has a foreskin as well. It's called the clitoral hood and it's one of the things removed during female circumcision. Muslims use the exact same argument as you to justify mutilating their girls.

I don't know why we can't just agree that it's wrong to cut off any part of a baby or child; whether male or female unless it's for clearcut medical reasons like appendicitis, cancer or gangrene.

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Male circumcision is almost as bad. Imagine, your wife gives birth to a baby boy who is healthy and perfect in every way, and the first thing you can think of doing is to cut off a piece of his pénis. You expose your helpless newborn son to a surgery that has little or no benefit and carries serious risks including HIV, Hepatitis B, penile amputation fistulas and gangrene just because the oyimbos told you their god said you should.

Society turns a blind eye to some horrible things because the big religions promote them. For me, anybody who tries to put a knife near my child's génitals is going to die that day.

Nothing like witchcraft jor. It's just a cover for Christians to practice their bigotry and intolerance of other religions. Every religion that is small enough to safely persecute is demonic. Followers if traditional religions are all witches and wizards.

In the bad days when Christians were in control of governments in Europe and America, that's they were burning innocent people left and right for imaginary crimes like witchcraft.

Bunch of fanatics. The Christian Taliban is real.

You are married once you've said the words and signed the marriage contract. The church ceremony is purely cosmetic. People had been getting married long before Christianity was invented. What your fiancee is saying makes no sense.

I suspect that married life will be difficult for you. If I were you, I would very carefully before committing to spending the rest of my life with someone who refuses to think rationally and does whatever she likes regardless of my opinion.

While there is no question that atheism is not a religion in any sense, I worry about these people who feel the need to "borrow" from those Christian mega-church scam centres.

While Christians don't own the patent on common interest gatherings, there is a risk of validating the nonsense the Christians are doing in the eyes of the public. There's also the possibility of some opportunist leader using such a movement to scam people and enrich himself just like the scumbag pastors do. Being an atheist doesn't necessarily reduce your tendency to exploitative or criminal behavior.

It'll be a sad day when people can't see any difference between how athiest/secular organistations operate and what churches do.

Olupompey: please don't twist the work of God...

When and where did he twist anything? Clearly, it is Christians and bible translators who are doing the twisting.

Joshthefirst: how does this justify the premeditated killing of unborn babies?

If your god doesn't have a problem with killing 70% of all fertilized eggs (the remaining 30% includes live births, stillbirth and induced abortions) I don't see why you should be complaining. And this is the same God that drowned all of humanity and was slaughtering men, women and children throughout the old testament. Clearly killing babies is not against the christian religion.

what? Is a zygote a developing human being or not? If it is, then answer my question:
When is it okay to kill a developing human being in the womb?

A zygote is just one cell. You can fit something like 40,000 of them on the head of a pin. At best it's a potential human and no more. It needs another person to make significant sacrifices and bear risks to her body to turn it into a full human. If a woman doesn't want to provide such services, she can not and should not be forced to. Women are not cattle, despite Christianity and Islam's efforts to make them that.

an unconscious person is also not aware of his surroundings and he cannot think or feel. Does that make him any less human? Does that make it okay to kill him for selfish reasons like you don't have enough money to take care of him?

People stop treating unconscious people all the time, mostly for financial reasons. It is a well established principle that nobody can be risk his/her own life or wellbeing for someone else. If a mother is willing to damage her body to carry a baby to term, then good for her. If she doesn't want to risk her life, then she shouldn't be forced to. Your body, your rules.

you making this kind of statement shows you may not know the mechanism of cloning.

I strongly suspect that I have forgotten more about human cloning than you will ever know.
You should probably look through my posting history before you challenge me in any of the biological sciences. Or any type of science, period.

what has Godwins law got to do with this? This thread was centered around abortion and used the holocaust as an example to shed more light on what I'm saying. Hitler didn't "come up"

Yes Hitler didn't come up at all. You only started by talking about the holocaust which clearly has nothing to do with Hitler at all. It's completely unrelated. /s

@OP

You're 16, so do what you have to do to keep your family happy. For one, you're not yet fully independent, job or no. And more importantly, you need to have a good relationship with the people you care about. As an atheist, you of all people should know that they won't be around forever. Once they're gone, you'll never see them again, not in heaven or anywhere else. So don't waste the time you have fighting over religion.

It's good that you were honest with your aunt about your beliefs, but if it means so much to her then it will cost you very little to make her happy. There's nothing wrong with going along with something you don't believe in to make someone else happy as long as no one is harmed.

You'll have plenty of time to be a Chris Hitchens type atheist when you're older.

As many as 70% of all pregnancies spontaneously abort. Mother nature (or if you like, God) is the world's greatest abortionist.

The reason this isn't a big deal is that a clump of cells is not equivalent to a human being. If it doesn't have a brain, or a nervous. system; then it's not a person. If it isn't self aware and can't think or feel; then it isn't a human being. This is not difficult to understand so I can't see why you religious people insist on being so obtuse.

It is now possible to clone human beings from almost any cell in the body. Following your argument, that means every time you you wipe your ynash, you're flushing hundreds of thousands of potential humans down the toilet. You are killing millions of babies every day, you are worse than the Nazis.

Also, OP lost this argument since the first post. Google "Godwins Law."

souldust: doesnt this story support what atheists say, That religion is man made? If the church goes on ahead with the survey and eventually changes are made in favour of the progressives, then surely we cannot trust religion anymore. It would mean that all they have been teaching people is actually what they want people to believe and not what came from God, if it actually came from God in the first place.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

We have a winner!!!