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CultureRe: The True Extent Of Alaigbo (Igboland) by ezeagu(m): 1:55am On Sep 17, 2010
Onlytruth:
My list:

Abiriba
Anaedo (or Nnewi)
Awka
Ohafia
Igbere
Uratta
Aro
Izzi
Mgbo
Ezaa
Ngwa
Ika
Ndoki
Asa
Etche
Orsu
Onicha (Ado)
Isu
Ehugbo
Ukwuani
Ndoni
Aboh
Ogba
Ikwerre
Nri
You're missing Nsukka, Anioma, Ogu, Udi, Abia, Obinagu, Agbani, Asaba, Edda, Abam, Ogwashi Ukwu, Igbuzor, Ngwo, Etiti, Ibeku, Mbaise, Olokoro, Nike, Umuokpara, Ubakala, Ohuhu, Uzuakoli, Egbema, Engenni (?), Nkwerre, Ezillo, Orlu, Nsude, Eke, Obosi, Okigwe, Enugu-Ezikie and many more. . .

That is, by subgroup. . .
PoliticsRe: Becomerich Bows Out Of NL by ezeagu(m): 11:28pm On Sep 16, 2010
He's currently having conversations with himself on 'this globe' which is what is taking up most of his time now and is his priority. I think he is envious of nairaland and is working hard to forge make a community on 'this globe' that will outshine nairalands own.
CultureRe: The True Extent Of Alaigbo (Igboland) by ezeagu(m): 10:35pm On Sep 16, 2010
experience:
How many sun rays do you recommend?
The rays represent provinces, so that may have to be changed, and if there are too many provinces then the meaning of the rays may have to be changed as well.
CultureRe: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by ezeagu(op): 9:26pm On Sep 16, 2010
Gamine:
What are you trying to say?
That if you think your post is dumb you should remove it.
PoliticsRe: Area Boyz And The Police In Uniform by ezeagu(m): 9:25pm On Sep 16, 2010
safariman:
^^^^
It looks so real
I was messing around, the picture is tame for Nigerian image threads, usually it's some gruesome mangled bodies in the pictures that will haunt you forever.
CultureRe: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by ezeagu(op): 9:07pm On Sep 16, 2010
Gamine:
Really dumb post
Why don't you remove the link then?
PoliticsRe: Area Boyz And The Police In Uniform by ezeagu(m): 9:05pm On Sep 16, 2010
It is photoshop.
PoliticsRe: Just Lost A Good Neighbour To Kidnappers. by ezeagu(m): 9:04pm On Sep 16, 2010
If people are arming themselves up north, why don't they are themselves down south?
CultureRe: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by ezeagu(op): 8:52pm On Sep 16, 2010
CultureRe: Ethnic Groups in Nigeria, Less Than 40 by ezeagu(m): 8:51pm On Sep 16, 2010
Gamine:
I don't know where all these Igbo people are coming from with authority on ethnic groups and language
puzzling huh huh huh
Really dumb post.
CultureRe: The True Extent Of Alaigbo (Igboland) by ezeagu(m): 6:00pm On Sep 16, 2010
I think the flag should be left how it is, with the number of sun rays changed. Why?

1. In honour of people who died under it.
2. For the 'Pan-African' Garveyist connotation of the colours and in honour of those affected by slavery and colonisation.
3. For the importance of the sun in the Igbo spirituality
and 4. Because Alaigbo is not Niger

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Flag_of_Niger.svg/400px-Flag_of_Niger.svg.png
CultureRe: Ethnic Groups in Nigeria, Less Than 40 by ezeagu(m): 12:11am On Sep 16, 2010
Obiagu1:
You're right. Though they are not contiguous with the Yoruba nation, and considering Bonny case, I've taken it off the list.
What do you use to judge what an ethnic group is and isn't, is it language, culture, lineage or any kind of close association, like through trade and marriage, or proximity of native land?
PoliticsRe: Show Your Nigeria To The World By Cnn Ireport by ezeagu(m): 7:17pm On Sep 15, 2010
Looking at Poland's pictures, it's obvious they don't put up just anything, that means no rubbish cell-phone pics and actually get out of your car! You can send videos as well. After all the complaining Nigerians do about CNN, I think they've actually gotten fed up and handed you the camera, so don't mess it up, or next time shut up.
CultureRe: Ethnic Groups in Nigeria, Less Than 40 by ezeagu(m): 6:24pm On Sep 15, 2010
I thought my thread was controversial. Where do we start?
CultureRe: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by ezeagu(op): 6:21pm On Sep 15, 2010
Outstrip:
I disagree with yout list. Etsako should be a distinct language. There are many dialects of etsako itself. If you think that etsako is in a dialect of the language spoken in Benin then you are wrong o
How about this, provide a (reliable) source that doesn't place 'Etsako' under the Edo language and proves that it is a distinct language spoken by more than 50,000 people I'll add it to the list. That is fair, right? Until then the list stays the same.

Gamine:
The Bini's have always held the ruling power therefore it would seem there was a distinct 'Edo'
language, while the others remain as 'dialects'
It seems many people cannot separate language from ethnicity and politics.
PoliticsRe: Edo,delta People not Equal,but Some Are More Equal Than Others ask Jonathan by ezeagu(m): 5:16pm On Sep 14, 2010
Becomrich0:
Here are likely country that would be on ourside. i would be back

Africa countries. and I would list other later. I have to go


Algeria
Angola
Benin
Botswana
Burkina Faso
Burundi
Cameroon
Cape Verde
Central African Rep
Chad
Congo
Dem. Rep. Congo (Zaire)
Djibouti
Egypt
Equatorial Guinea
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Gabon
Gambia
Ghana
Guinea Bissau
Guinea
Ivory Coast
Kenya
Lesotho
Liberia
Libya
Madagascar
Malawi
Mali
Mauritania
Mauritius
[s]Morocco
Mozambique
Namibia
Niger
Nigeria
Reunion
Rwanda
São Tomé and Principe
Senegal
Seychelles
Sierra Leone
Somalia
South Africa
Sudan
Swaziland
Tanzania
Togo
Tunisia
Uganda
Zambia
Zanzibar
Zimbabwe[/s]
CultureRe: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by ezeagu(op): 3:42pm On Sep 14, 2010
Gamine:
''There are less than 70 languages in Nigeria'' and you posted 60.
It's like you don't understand what YOU wrote.
Less than 70 didn't give a fixed amount of languages, so I know I didn't write any fixed amount of languages or even imply there's a fixed amount.

Gamine:
There is a clear difference between 'Distinct' and 'Dialects' from your post. obviously
the Distinct languages are the source of the dialects, thereby making them 'higher'
Isn't it more of your perception than what I actually wrote with letters? I didn't write anything with higher and any 'level' that anyone can see from languages is up to them.

Gamine:
Why don't you leave the website to do the explanation and stop misleading people.
No, I will leave my post here, and if you don't like the information then you can go anywhere else to get your information. There's no part of the thread that has claimed to be official and I never said everyone must believe it.

Gamine:
For example you commented on someone's post that Esan is a dialect (which you decided to ignore)
I've gone to the site, and it bears no resemblance to your post.
The language lineage of Esan is:

Niger-Congo, Atlantic-Congo, Volta-Congo, Benue-Congo, Edoid, North-Central, Edo-Esan-Ora. The fact that it is Edoid made me put it under the Edo languages as there's no such thing as Esanoid. The important part of the lineage is when it leaves regions and enters the main language groupings.

Gamine:
As you would have noticed, I'm only concerned about particular languages because
i believe I have more knowledge than you do on them.
That's fine, you can open your own thread if you have more knowledge, but I'm going to keep to what I originally said and that is there are less than 70 languages in Nigeria, some Nigerian founding fathers have even counted less and some of these so called distinct languages have speakers who identify them as dialects including linguists. As far as I'm concerned you haven't shown me otherwise. Many have seen the thread so it's up to them to take the information and do what they want with it.
PoliticsRe: Politics And Regional Leaders In Nigeria by ezeagu(m): 2:42pm On Sep 14, 2010
Nigeria is a lawless country. And in a lawless country you have gangs. And with gangs anybody who isn't protected under one gang is in serious danger. These groups you've mentioned work like gangs and the government treats them similarly. You need gang leaders to defend you from other gangs.

None of these groups are leaving any time soon ever. Sometimes people in those groups have proven themselves loyal to their nation and worthy of representing them, and sometimes they're the only suitable people to head these. . . . gangs, or those who want to.

Nigeria's politics is number 1, ethnicity, then everything else revolves around that including presidency, each geopolitical zone might as well be sovereign countries.

Nigeria was not created by the hands of any of the ancestors of Nigerians, Nigeria has never been bold enough to identify any of it's issues or has tried to address the status of its identity, it's not a country that respects 'diversity' and it's going to vanish for several countries to rise in less than 30 years.
CultureRe: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by ezeagu(op): 2:15pm On Sep 14, 2010
Gamine:
If Esan is a dialect, Edo (what you suggest on your list) is a dialect too.

Is the number of people speaking a language (>1million) what qualifies it as a 'distinct' language?
Edo (What the Bini speak) is the most widely spoken of the Edoid, that doesn't place it higher than the others
I really do not like these kind of misleading posts.
How many people in present day Edo state speak this?
My people, do not, they only pick it up because they go to live in the 'city'

Well, What can I expect from Google-Education.

Sigh


B.L: It's either the classification system is wrong or the list is incomplete
The post is really easy to understand if you want to understand it. First off the list was never represented as a full list and there were no official count of languages in the first post, the post clearly states that the list below includes languages spoken by more than 50,000 people, more than 1 million people and 10 million people. Isn't it obvious that there may be languages that have less than 50,000 speakers and were therefore left off the list? Where in the post was the list represented as languages that are "higher than the other"? What is a better reliable source, a poster from nairaland, or a well sourced website?

What do your people speak, and is it a distinct language?

Obiagu1:
Ibibio people do not live in Ogoja nor in Abakiliki.
What does that have to do with language?
CultureRe: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by ezeagu(op): 12:15am On Sep 14, 2010
chyz:
Wow so kukele of the "Ukelle people" is a dialect of the igbo language. I learn something new everyday.I just found a recording of the language.The even use the old Aro name for god, "Ukpabi". Check this out:

http://globalrecordings.net/program/C10171


They've really tried hard to separate us cry
Are you sure this can be classed as Igbo, considering 'Ukpabi' is Ibibio?

Gamine:
Well you contradict yourself, If Bini speak a dialect of 'Edo', Where does Yekhee for example come from?
Yekhee will be a dialect of Edo too, so what's it doing on the listhuh

Let me clarify for you,

Bini people are in Edo state, they speak Edo which is under a larger group, the Edoid family.
Is there really a difference from what I wrote and what you wrote, apart from calling the Edo Bini, many of them identify as Edo and have done so for a long time. Bini is not an official name for the Edo people which is what their ancestors called themselves.

Gamine:
Also, the Edoid group (this is what you suggest is in your list) has way more than 1million speakers
Well that's why I wrote:

The languages in bold are spoken by 1 million and more and the underlined more than 10 million.
One of the major languages of Nigeria is listed as Edo not Bini.

chyz:
Edo is used to describe a people in that region.It is not a language. With in edo state there are the esa, bini, igarra, igbanke,etc. they each speak their own distinct language.
None of these languages are distinct, they're all dialects of one or more languages. Again, one of the National languages of Nigeria is Edo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edo_language
CultureRe: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by ezeagu(op): 10:26pm On Sep 13, 2010
Gamine:
You have to make a clear distinct between Edo as Bini, and Edo state.
You can't put up 'Edo' as a parent language, that's why I said 'Edo' does not exist.
the language the Bini's speak, is under the Edoid group.
If you are listing Edo here, where are the others from the group??
Bini people are Edo people who speak a dialect of Edo, and it's quite modern.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Close To Population Disaster – British Council Raises Alarm by ezeagu(m): 9:56pm On Sep 13, 2010
Horus:
Dont allow yourself to be mentally manipulated by the Europeans medias. Is it true that Nigeria and Africa is over crowded and moving towards an unsustainable population level?."No. Absolutely not". Overcrowding can be measured by one method only, that is whether there are too many people to fit in the space available. Population density is calculated by dividing the number of people by area. Population density is usually shown as the number of people per square kilometer.The most densely populated continent area in the world is Europe, yes EUROPE (see GAP News #7, Population Figures), but do Europeans think there are too many people in Europe? Of course not. But did the europeans use the word overpopulation when they talk about the european population?.Of course not. But they believe there are too many African and Asian people in the world. That is not overcrowding that is racism". Why they dont want to use "population control" in Europe when they know that The most densely populated continent area in the world is Europe?.
This is funny, because I was just reading this.

Over-populated England

Published: 12:01AM BST 06 May 2008

News that England is poised to become the most crowded nation in western Europe will come as little surprise to the millions who already battle their way to work in London and the South East.

Within two years, England will overtake Holland as the most populous major country - and it will get progressively worse.

According to the Office for National Statistics, England's population will rise to 521 people for every square kilometre by 2056, compared with 390 individuals per sq km in 2006.

England is already one of the most densely populated countries in the world, let alone in Europe. It has nearly twice the population density of Germany, four times that of France and 12 times that of the USA.

Inevitably, the South will take the brunt of the increase, placing further strain on housing and transport, which are already almost at breaking point.

The main driver for this increase is immigration, which has also produced higher levels of childbirth. More people are also living to a ripe old age. If current trends continue, then the UK population could rise to 108 million in a lifetime.

Until fairly recently, demographers believed the population would stabilise at around 60 million and then decline. In other words, there was no long-term policy planning for the population we have today, let alone what we now face.

The inevitable consequences are less space, more costly land, smaller but dearer homes, congested roads, packed trains, overburdened hospitals, oversubscribed schools, new towns and pressures on resources.

Since England will remain an attractive destination for many immigrants, who often bring their entrepreneurial dynamism with them, it would help matters if more people moved to other, less crowded parts of Britain.

But we are such a top-heavy nation, with a capital city more dominant than any in Europe, that this is unlikely to happen unless more jobs are created elsewhere in the country.
The 'West' doesn't need to be excuse for everything or a case study for everything.

ola olabiy:
you don't still get it.
the dirt in nigeria has nothing to do with population. only lagos needs some planning in that area (population). and it's not the state's fault. people will always prefer lagos to any other state in nigeria.
reduce nigeria's population by a third, dirt and decay would still be conspicous.
and, to let you know that you don't really understand this concept, china's one-child policy is in place because of concerns over land mass.

there are 3 main reasons why population sometimes becomes an issue. land mass is the main one. i will tell you the other 2 later.
take care.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/3557993/Over-populated-England.html
So why didn't you talk about why land mass is a concern for China if I don't understand? Is it because I will point out that China is over 10 times Nigeria's size and that Nigeria should be even more worried that such a country with large lands is worried? The dangers of over population doesn't lessen for conspiracy theories.
CultureRe: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by ezeagu(op): 9:45pm On Sep 13, 2010
Gamine:
If you really want to classify languages under your terms, Mr poster
You will find that the whole world really does speak one language.
Well actually you're wrong because most of those languages are distinct and are not based on broad classifications, unless you can prove that every language on this earth can be understood by everyone.

Gamine:
The 'Edo' language does not exist, please where are the 1million speaking this language??
And you're sure about that? The 1 million are right there in Benin City, and the rest are spread about in what is now Edo State.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Close To Population Disaster – British Council Raises Alarm by ezeagu(m): 4:47am On Sep 13, 2010
ola olabiy:
sorry,
how do you go about this your 'slowing down'?
or are you just ladened with emotion about something that does not affect you?
nor your prosperity!
You need to do some thinking. Do you know what family planning is? Do you know the amount of people living dirt poor with over 5 children in Nigeria? What prosperity are you talking about? You think overpopulation is a good thing? You think Nigeria needs 300 million starving people for "prosperity"? There's a reason China has a one child policy. You need to think ahead when Lagos reaches 50 million and the whole city collapses, and then where will the "prosperity" come from?
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Close To Population Disaster – British Council Raises Alarm by ezeagu(m): 2:13am On Sep 13, 2010
No, seriously, population control agenda or no population control agenda, Nigeria needs to slow down, it has enough young people.
CultureRe: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by ezeagu(op): 4:44pm On Sep 12, 2010
Andre Uweh:
Legbo is a language of spoken in Cross River state not Afikpo. The Legbo people bear Igbo names that are common in Afikpo eg Kanu Agabi. This former minister is Legbo and not Igbo.
My coursemate during my undergraduate days shared a common surname (Agbi) with a lecturer from Cross River state. Yet one is Igbo and the other is not.
The website I got the information from says that it is spoken in Afikpo LGA and they got their sources from published books on Nigerian languages.

ChinenyeN:
Ethno-linguistic groups is a better expression for that list, in my opinion.
I agree, but if you want to talk about distinct languages then the list plus any smaller ones missing is the count of distinct Nigerian languages.

Obiagu1:
Is ezeagu not the same guy that was arguing that Nigeria has 250+ languagues and Isoko is not Urhobo. You must be clueless.
Ethnicity isn't the same as language, which is why a Jamaican isn't considered English and the Nigerian groups abandoning their languages for Hausa aren't considered Hausa.

I even said:

"I was thinking of grouping Isekiri with Yoruba, if not for ethnic politics."


Doe anyone know if there is an actual Igbonna dialect of Yoruba, or maybe it's a misspelling of Igbo mina?
CultureRe: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by ezeagu(op): 12:54am On Sep 12, 2010
Yoruba has a dialect called Igbonna, this has to be a joke, or ancient link. . . shocked
CultureRe: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by ezeagu(op): 12:45am On Sep 12, 2010
Andre Uweh:
Despite great dialectrical variations in Yorubaland, all the dialects are grouped as Yoruba.
But enemy of Ndigbo are very quick to classify some Igbo dialects as separate languages e.g Ika, Ekpeye etc.
It's true, although I see it as a lack of interest in what the editors saw as a secondary group probably (hence the 18 million estimation, only if the Igbo had empires grin). To be fair Ekpeye and Ika, Ikwerre etc are grouped under 'Igboid'. A 'language' I found interesting is Legbo spoken in Afikpo, and has an alternate name of 'Igbo', yet it's classified as a distinct language and Isekiri is 'Yoruboid'. grin huh There are probably so many other 'languages' like this, especially the ones classified as 'Cross River' langauges.
CultureRe: Kola Nut Ritual In Igboland by ezeagu(m): 12:40am On Sep 12, 2010
Has anyone actually witnessed a full celebration when oji breaks into three?
CultureRe: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by ezeagu(op): 12:32am On Sep 12, 2010
asha 80:
i heard that people from ibadan do not understand ekiti?no wcan they all be classified as one language  undecided
They can still be classified as one language. It's also useful to note that some languages are being replaced by languages that have a high amount of people who prefer it like Hausa and Kanuri.
CultureRe: The Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by ezeagu(op): 12:25am On Sep 12, 2010
Andre Uweh:
@Ezeagu: This is the best classification I have seen so far. Awolowo counted up to 51 languages of Nigeria.
@No. 18, do you mean Egun language spoken in Lagos state and a tiny part of Ogun state?.
There's an 'Eggon' in Nassarawa: http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=ego

I was thinking of grouping Isekiri with Yoruba, if not for ethnic politics.
CultureThe Truth About The Number Of Nigerian Languages by ezeagu(op): 11:22pm On Sep 11, 2010
There are less than 70 languages in Nigeria. The languages that are spoken by more than 1 million people are around 19. The problem with many of the so called 300+ languages of Nigeria is that many of them are either dialects, are spoken by 1 village or are extinct or even all of the options. Most are dialects under one language family like Isoko and Urhobo.

For example Anaang, Ibibio and Efik are dialects of one language. Ambo is a language in Taraba state spoken by 1 village, yes 1 village and it is a dialect of Tiv. Bassa-Kontagora is a dialect of Basa spoken in Niger state by 10 people.

This is the list of distinct languages in Nigeria that are spoken by more than 50,000 people. The languages in bold are spoken by 1 million and more and the underlined more than 10 million.

1 Bade
2 Bariba
3 Basa
4 Bata
5 Berom
6 Bendi
7 Biu-Mandara
8 Bole
9 Bura-Pabir
10 Busa
11 Che
12 Cibak
13 Daka
14 Duka
15 Ebira
16 Edo
17 Efik
18 Eggon
19 Ekoi
20 Fulani
21 Gbagyi
22 Gun
23 Hausa
24 Huba
25 Hyam
26 Idoma
27 Igala
28 Igbo
29 Ijo
30 Itsekiri
31 Jarawa
32 Jju
33 Kambrai
34 Kamwe
35 Kanuri
36 Kororofa
37 Kukele
38 Lokaa
39 Mada
40 Mambila
41 Mumuye
42 Ngas
43 Nupe
44 Obolo
45 Ogbia
46 Ogoni
47 Oring
48 Pidgin
49 Ron
50 Shuwa Arabic
51 Tangale
52 Tarok
53 Tiv
54 Tyap
55 Urhobo
56 Vere
57 Warji
58 Yekhee
59 Yoruba
60 Zarma

http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=ng

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