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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 2:48pm On Jun 24, 2017
Nowenuse:


Whooaaa i have never seen you so angry dear.
Pls take it easy, some people are not worth your emotions.
Leave those shameless bigoted bitches n cultureless Kenyans who are bitter over their loss of cultures.

Kin fi su hikima da basira. Ki kwanta da hankali, kinji?

Kai, gaskiya sunsa ni bala'in haushi yau. Zan nuna masu ainihin taurin kai. Wallahi bazan masu shiru ba
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 2:46pm On Jun 24, 2017
PissedYagami:

But then again our main language is African, not English, like you guys who are so cultured. Checkmate

Our national languages are Hausa, Yoruba n Igbo.

**** Besides, a small and comparatively homogenous country like yours would be easier for some things n not a mighty country like Nigeria with histories of different Kingdoms, empires n civilizations checkmate
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 2:39pm On Jun 24, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
I came here to read up about other African people but your illiteracy on this thread about politics is quite nauseating

No, you n your sisters came here with a wave of bigotry, stupidity n shamelesness.
You guys would have limited yourselves to the ethnic/tribal politics section where your little minds can fully function.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 2:35pm On Jun 24, 2017
Jay254:


Sorry to say but you sound so ignorant...
Yaah am ignorant cos your excuse looks so cheap n has been busted.
****See, i do not care about you guys (Kenyans), you guys should just learn to stay away from the lovely conversations on African culture between lovers of African culture on this thread n stay away from giving flimsy excuses about how the whites who intended to settle in your country made you loose your culture whereas there are other Africans with more whites in their country who are still proud n celebrate their african cultures to the fullest.
You can be more Europeanized than the Europeans n that's your business @PissedYagami

>>>>At least i have the beautiful n lovely Ethiopians to keep me in good company on this thread.
Good riddance to bad rubbish!
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 2:26pm On Jun 24, 2017
ephi321:


Please stop making noise on my mention. Are you okay at all?

Logically, Northerners cannot dominate the economy when they have remained largely uneducated. Whose fault is it that they've continued to propagate the almajiri system and not educate their youths like other regions have done?

Figures and facts can never be twisted no matter how hard you try. In any case, make your ignorant and false comments in peace and keep me out of that nonsense. Same goes for the commenter above. I don't know you from Adam and won't tolerate you quoting my moniker aimlessly all over the place.

Well, likewise southerners can never dominate politics in Nigeria when they always fight each n are very insultive n disrespectful.

****Every society has his or her problems.
N try to stay away from this thread if you don't want to be mentioned.
Good riddance to bad rubbish!

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:41am On Jun 24, 2017
mtis:

An that explains alot...i think the whites intended to stay around

Lol @ PissedYagami, buh didn't the whites also wanted to stay in Uganda, Tanzania, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Namibia et al? Buh the people of these countries apparently aren't as westernized as you Kenyans.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:35am On Jun 24, 2017
Maduawuchukwu:


Before colonialism, the Hausa-Fulani were easily the most advanced Nigerians. They had the best tax code, they could read and write in Arabic, they were administrators etc. As at this time, many ethnic groups in were at very primitive levels. You don't have to agree with all her posts but that's the truth.

Thank you for telling QueenOfNepal, Ngozi123 n ephi321 the truth.

****Hausa-fulanis were more advanced than the rest of us before and even during colonialism buh that is history because today we are doing better than them.

You Igbos n Yorubas are doing way better in education, media, international achievements, economical influence e.t.c and am so proud of you guys n seriously wish my own middlebelt people to catch up with you guys cos it's obvious we are still behind.

Holly I wonder why many Nigerians like to paint the truth with bigotry. Sometimes, admitting the truth helps you work on yourself n bring out the best from within you. This is my school of thought.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:26am On Jun 24, 2017
Marcelo290:
Most of what you stated have some atom of truism, but was it why the British liked them more and struggled to smuggle them into power by all means at the advent of independence? definitely No! that is our argument here.

Sometimes i find you Southern Nigerians to be heavy hypocrites (am sorry if i sound insultive).

**** You guys keep on talking about how northern Nigerians dominate the military, politics or whatever buh you do not talk about how you guys dominate the economy of the country.
You guys are not talking about how the British favoured you guys by establishing the capital of the country in Lagos n how this has brought heavy development n urbanisation to Southern Nigeria n how this has made Southern Nigeria the economic powerhouse of the country.

Why don't you guys tell this to the Kenyans? ephi321 n co
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:15am On Jun 24, 2017
Marcelo290:
Most of what you stated have some atom of truism, but was it why the British liked them more and struggled to smuggle them into power by all means at the advent of independence? definitely No! that is our argument here.

Yes, it was part of the reasons, buh it may not be all.

You guys keep on talking about the British empowering the northerners buh you are not elucidating the steps or measures at which this so called empowerment was carried out.

**** First of all, the reason the Hausa-fulanis or northerners seem so powerful today was because the British created a very large n powerful northern Nigerian region n these same British tried their best to homogenize this large northern region while the southern region was balkanized into western n eastern regions.

>>>> The british promoted the use of Hausa as a lingua franca to homogenize northern Nigeria n it worked perfectly n this they effectively carried out through the indirect system of rulership where almost all northern minorities were classified under Hausa-fulani emirates irrespective of their histories n cultures and we were all ruled directly from the Sokoto Sultanate, hence we all developed a united AREWA identity against our own independent ethnic identities. This is something you southerners never had!

Some, culturally Southern Nigerian areas (like the yorubas of Kwara n Kogi) were also annexed into the Northern region (all in order to create a large intimidating northern region).

>>>> Now, tell me why a united Northern Nigeria will not dominate a fragmented n balkanized southern Nigeria??
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 9:57am On Jun 24, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
I think you need to focus on fashion works here and leave anything pertaining to history and poitics to those who took it upon themselves to read wide and not some folklore your dad told you at a fire place.


Your reasoning sounds too shallow to engage you.

Now am shallow cos you cannot disprove any of my points n you feel ashamed of yourself.

*** If i'm not mistaken, you recently joined this thread n am yet to see anything positive you brought here apart from trying to cause divisions n ill-feelings. so why dont u crawl back to the hole you came out from?
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 9:48am On Jun 24, 2017
Hati13:

Could you explain it.

There is a yearly national festival for all ethnicities in Ethiopia to show their respective cultures. It's called "Bher Bhereseboch baele" and celebrated around Hdar(November). The place of celebration will be rotated annually from regions to regions and Federal States.

As far as I know, there is public festival called "Ashenda/Shadey". It's celebrated by Wag Hemra Agew, Tigray, Tigrinyas(Eritrea Tigrays) and Rays. But, they don't attire like the pictures above.
By the way, I'm Wag Hemra Agew from my mother side.

1. Wag Hemra Agew Song named "ye Agew lage".
2. Bher Bhereseboch baele
3. Tigray - Ashenda
4. Wag Hemra Agew - Ashenda


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD65ICaG5GA

Wow, this is great.
Where was the last one held? Did u attend?

*** Is agew an independent ethnicity or a subgroup of an ethnicity? Cos i've never heard of them. Which regions r they found?
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 9:44am On Jun 24, 2017
Hati13:

Could you explain it.
U[quote]

The masquerades like i told you are mostly elements of ancestral religions n deities.
Some used to be believed to have mystical powers, some r believed to be messengers of the gods, some r believed to be the gods themselves or spirits.
It varies from culture to culture.

****Many Nigerian christians n muslims no longer have interest in masquerades n some condemn it cos apparently they are festish or symbolic of the pagan religions of our ancestors. Some believe they should be retained as elements of our culture. My own opinion is in between cos some Nigerian traditionalists use these things to molest or take advantage of innocent people n truly they are fetish.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 9:27am On Jun 24, 2017
Hati13:

grin

I tried, but I can't find on the Internet.

I know an Afar student in my University class and he seems similar like us. You are right that there is a distinction, but they are similar in some features.

By the way, they are very fearful by almost all other Ethiopians. Most of them don't know jokes and he might kill you make him angry or wants with no reason.

Feared? Are they so barbaric in nature?
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 9:23am On Jun 24, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Can I ask what exactly the King does?

Basically the office is more of a ceremonial one. However they engage in traditional administration of their people, they r the custodians of the cultures of the people. They help in settlings customary disputes. They have the respect of the people, so, people do look up to them for guidance, direction, blessings n support.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 8:56pm On Jun 23, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Well, if you gonna make me a king I would try that. Whats the name of the King?

Lol. cheesy
I think he is the Obi of Onitsha (the most influential Igbo king)
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 8:30pm On Jun 23, 2017
TayserMahiri:


I should be calling you white gal from Kaduna for trying to deny dark dudes exist in Nigeria cheesy

Here is a Nigerian King.

*** White boy from Yorkshire, i'd like to see you try something like this cheesy

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 8:26pm On Jun 23, 2017
mtis:


First am confused ..is you cousin sister not your cousin ??
Second ya cousin is cute..is she... cheesy never mind.. grin

Yaaah, it's same thing, i think sister is just added to note the gender.
N thanks 4d complement on behalf of my cousin wink
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 8:23pm On Jun 23, 2017
Hati13 n Ednited

>>>>Do you guys do this in Ethiopia?
Nigerian masquerades. Lol. Elements of our ancestral religions & cultures.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 8:20pm On Jun 23, 2017
TayserMahiri:


We are in the 21st Century, you should be telling us what your universities are doing, not what people are wearing!

N afta we do that n we are done, what next?... Huh, white boy from manchester? cheesy
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 7:54pm On Jun 23, 2017
Marcelo290:
I disagree with you also, I read extensively on this as it is part of my study areas, the North had organized monarch system which facilitated tax collection, the conservative nature of Islam made it more easier. Also they were less informed and wanted colonialism to continue, Nigeria should had gained Independence in 1956 during the call by Chief Anthony Enahoro, a southerner, but Ahmadu Bello rejected this and replaced it with "as soon as practicable" reason our independence was delayed until 4 yrs later.

The North were better tools to be controlled unlike most of their southern counterparts who just returned from their education abroad, they saw the ills of colonialism after contrasting it with the good lives they enjoyed in the west. This actually brought about the advent of Nationalism.

When Nigeria conducted her first election in 1959, the then British governor general, Sir James Robertson selected a junior civil servant Harold Smith to oversee the rigging of the election in favor of the North, He was promised promotion and alot of cash, but unfortunately he still rejected.

The Northerners have been strong allies with the west, they can easily be controlled and very good at ass licking, reason Obama stood against Jonathan and supported Buhari cos Jonathan refused to adopt some policies like gay marriage and the likes. Hope you also know Buhari sent alot of money for Hillary Clinton's campaign in the US? thank God she even lost.

It didn't start today, Be informed!

How can you guys say northerners were less informed? When they were the first group of present day Nigerians to start reading, writing n travelling outside Africa on voyages since pre-colonial times?

**** My reply to Ngozi will do you some good too cos i can't start typing all over. We are somehow saying basically the same thing.

genieluv:


Holly you are being very harsh with your words n unnecesarily worked up. What i told mtis was nothing buh the truth.
Can you point out anything i said that was a lie?

Can you prove yourself by denying any of these precolonial points below?

* Hausa-fulanis were already reading n writing, and were trading with the arabs, berbers n other non black africans before the Europeans came. No other present day Nigerian groups had this (except maybe Oyo & Kanem-bornu, which was still very minimal compared to that of the hausas). Now, am not talking about the slave trade which some southern Nigerians had with the Europeans centuries ago.

* Hausa-fulanis were the only present day Nigerians to develop a writing script (from arabic) precolonially n it is called 'Ajami'.
All other Nigerian groups relied on folklores n folktales as a means of documenting history including your Nri kingdom, Bini kingdom n my own Kwararafa kingdom.

* Hausa- fulanis occupied the largest traditional territory, (Sultanate) which even extends to present day Cameroon when the British came!
Hausa-fulanis took over Ilorin from Oyo kingdom and they rule it till date, they took over Auchi (which was a vassal of Bini kingdom). They also took over parts of Kanem-Borno & Kwararafa kingdoms n established their emirates.

* Hausa-fulanis were the only ones who rode on horsebacks (alongside the Kanem-Bornus) n travelled across n outside Africa.

And many more.

*****Now with all these, tell me, if you were the british, who would you have considered more civilized, enlightened n organized, n thus handed over power to?

Were Yoruba kingdoms not at war with each other when the British came?

>>>>I have said nothing wrong. You and i are both making similar points, only that you seem to be trying to downplay the greatness of the Sokoto caliphate n it's power/influence in Nigerian colonialism.

I have nothing to gain from being biased against Southerners n being supportive to Hausa-fulanis, no way! Most middlebelt people like myself are increasingly sympathetic to Southerners these years n biased against Hausa-fulanis because of experiences you and i are fully aware of. A part of me is also southern by heritage.
Thanks.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 7:49pm On Jun 23, 2017
Jay254:


I believe Africans were naked before Arabs and whites started invading Africa... That is our culture

No please, say Kenyans or other Bantu peoples were unclad before arabs n whites came.
***Most west african groups were not/never nakedd. We developed our own clothes n made our indigenous fabrics. Likewise the Horn africans.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 7:44pm On Jun 23, 2017
Ngozi123:


I just read through it. The British didn't give power to the North because they were more 'enlightened'- that's very racist speech btw- rather, they gave power to them because they were more familiar with their method of rule. They preferred authoritarian centralised systems of power as that was what they were used to and they'd find it much easier to rule the masses that way. This was evident in most of their colonies. Believe it or not but the British loved Islamic kingdoms as they were pretty much ready made dictatorships whose people were already used to authoritarian rule and would, in their minds, be 'easier' to control. They hated anything that would challenge their monarchy.

What genieluv said is honestly disgusting considering the achievements made by the Oyo and Nri empires and the communities surrounding them.

Holly you are being very harsh with your words n unnecesarily worked up. What i told mtis was nothing buh the truth.
Can you point out anything i said that was a lie?

Can you prove yourself by denying any of these precolonial points below?

* Hausa-fulanis were already reading n writing, and were trading with the arabs, berbers n other non black africans before the Europeans came. No other present day Nigerian groups had this (except maybe Oyo & Kanem-bornu, which was still very minimal compared to that of the hausas). Now, am not talking about the slave trade which some southern Nigerians had with the Europeans centuries ago.

* Hausa-fulanis were the only present day Nigerians to develop a writing script (from arabic) precolonially n it is called 'Ajami'.
All other Nigerian groups relied on folklores n folktales as a means of documenting history including your Nri kingdom, Bini kingdom n my own Kwararafa kingdom.

* Hausa- fulanis occupied the largest traditional territory, (Sultanate) which even extends to present day Cameroon when the British came!
Hausa-fulanis took over Ilorin from Oyo kingdom and they rule it till date, they took over Auchi (which was a vassal of Bini kingdom). They also took over parts of Kanem-Borno & Kwararafa kingdoms n established their emirates.

* Hausa-fulanis were the only ones who rode on horsebacks (alongside the Kanem-Bornus) n travelled across n outside Africa.

And many more.

*****Now with all these, tell me, if you were the british, who would you have considered more civilized, enlightened n organized, n thus handed over power to?

Were Yoruba kingdoms not at war with each other when the British came?

>>>>I have said nothing wrong. You and i are both making similar points, only that you seem to be trying to downplay the greatness of the Sokoto caliphate n it's power/influence in Nigerian colonialism.

I have nothing to gain from being biased against Southerners n being supportive to Hausa-fulanis, no way! Most middlebelt people like myself are increasingly sympathetic to Southerners these years n biased against Hausa-fulanis because of experiences you and i are fully aware of. A part of me is also southern by heritage.
Thanks.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 7:15pm On Jun 23, 2017
Hati13:


Their top thing they wear is also wear by some Gojjam, Shewa and Wello Amharas. And also some northern Oromos.

The last one is Haile Selassie and some elites during the early reign of Atse(emperor) Haile Selassie. It doesn't relate with the subject, just to show you.

Kk. Really, these afars look quite different from Habeshas. The difference is obvious.
****Can you show me urban educated afars? Maybe i'd be able to draw similarities
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 7:12pm On Jun 23, 2017
PissedYagami:

100% Kenyan. Me still wondering why we should promote clothes. I think as a continent we are past that kind of bull

They r not just clothes. African clothes r an element of your identity.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 11:20am On Jun 23, 2017
Hati13:

After Menelik(he is Shewa Amhara) reconquered SW, S and SE areas from Abyssinia, the different ethnicities in those areas were suppressed from speaking their language and follow their culture. The official language and culture of Abyssinia/Ethiopia became Amhargn and Amhara respectively. If anyone wants to go to school, hospital and serve in the government or military, they must speak Amharic. None Amhara people were disrespected, so to avoid this, many people from different backgrounds started to identify themselves as Amhara and follow Amhara culture.

The Tigrays were very powerful and relatively better resisted the Amharanizition process.

This dominance declined after the fall of Haile Selassie and Derg. Now, even if the Amhara culture is dominate and their is some Amharanizition process against Kemant Agew of Gondar, it isn't like the past dominance.

Note: the ordinary Amharas didn't enjoyed life that much then. Even if there culture was the dominant, they faced hardships just like the others.

We Amharas though we are going to rule Ethiopia for 1000 of years, but it failed. cry

We are also not tribal, so if anyone(including you wink) wants to be Amhara, then all of you are welcome. cool


From lower Grade up to 6 grade, people in regions like Amhara, Gambela, Benishungul-Gumzas and Southern people learn using Amharic for all subjects and also take English subject.
From Grade 7 up to end of university, all subjects other than Amharic are reached using English.

From lower Grade up to 6 grade, People in regions like Tigray, Afar, Oromia and Somalia learn using their respective languages for all subjects and also take English subject.
From Grade 7 up to end of university, it's the same like the above.

• Amharic is official language of federal government.
• regional governments like Tigray, Afar, Oromia and Somalia official language is their respective own languages.
• regional governments like Amhara, Gambela, Benishungul-Gumzas and Southern people official language is Amharic.

Regional maps of Ethiopia

Kk. Thanks.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 11:16am On Jun 23, 2017
Hati13:


Question - do you feel safe living in northern Nigeria because of Boko Haram?

Northern Nigeria is a very big place. It should be about twice the size of Kenya. Boko haram has been largely contained to just one northern state and there are 19 northern states.
****So, it's very safe, depending on what part of the north you are living in. The north-central n north-west r safe. The north-east is the troubled zone.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 11:09am On Jun 23, 2017
Hati13:

The clothes aren't bulky and very beautiful. The women are also beautiful. I'm imagining you dressing like this and you are shocked beautiful of course.

Question - do you feel safe living in northern Nigeria because of Boko Haram?

Thanks for the compliments.

*** I used to have a picture of me in my traditional attires, buh i misplaced it sad
However, here is my cousin sister in our traditional attire. You can see the subtle resemblance between us. Lol.

The 2nd lady is a friend of mine.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 11:01am On Jun 23, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
angry We are at their mercy. Nigeria is living on borrowed line except the elders come together and chart a way forward. The division is getting wider daily

Lol. No you are not at the mercy of northerners.

****The north is no longer as united as you think. Most middlebelters are now fed up with the hypocrisy of the core-north. If a war comes up today, do you think most middlebelt people will do Hausa-fulani dirty job? Hell no, we won't.

N you will agree with me that middlebelters also have a large percentage of northern dominated military force.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:57am On Jun 23, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
The British gave power to the North when they were leaving because the North were illiterate and won't pose much problem with their
nneocolonialism unlike the South that are more educated and exposed.



The North also have large population and landmass bordering Niger and Chad with no secured borders whereby you can't diffrentiate a Chadian from a Northerner which helps during Election.



The South is not United because the two major ethnic group there Igbos and Yorubas are busy battling for supremacy while the North holds tight to itself using Islam as a factor for homogeneity.


Lastly the Civil war made the north to control the armed forces that 80% of Nigeria defence apparatus are in the North with them having about 70% of the personnel

I think you are misleading mtis in some areas.

**** First of all, i don't think the British gave power to the north because they were illiterate, no, rather, it was because they were the most socially organized, exposed and enlightened.

When the British came to Nigeria, Danfodio n his hausa-fulani jihadists had the largest territory and empire (Sultanate) in Nigeria.
Hausa-fulanis were already reading n writing in Arabic, they were already travelling to the middle-east for Hajj, trading with Arabs, Berbers and others different peoples of the world. All other Nigerian groups lacked this.

This was why the British empowered them over others. They were better administrators.

Yoruba kingdoms were busy fighting themselves. Parts of Benin kingdom (Auchi area) & Kwararafa kingdom were already being ravaged n islamized by these jihadists.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:49am On Jun 23, 2017
ednited:



WOW, is there a name for the attire?

That of Ghana i think is called Kente, buh am not sure of the rest, i'll try to find out.

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Crime / Re: Attacks On Fulani Settlements In Taraba Villages, Many Killed, 120 Houses Burnt by genieluv(f): 10:46am On Jun 23, 2017
loshybab:

Hello brother!
I honestly want you to read through this(my subsequent posts on this thread)with a wide open mind and utmost objectivity.
but before I start,consider these factors>>>>>>>>>

●The traditional ruler in northern communities normally come from the dominating tribe
●The religion of that ruler is also the dominating religion of that dominant tribe.
●The tribes in which the names of the town are given
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Having said that,enjoy the low-down of my analysis


MUSLIM DOMINATED LGAs IN TARABA STATE

■Jalingo: due to the above laid factors.it is indigenously dominated by fulanis (almost all Muslims )although fractions of kona and mumuye can be found
■Gassol:same as above
■Bali:Dominated by the jibu Muslims and fulanis (considering the name of the LGA headquarters which is garba chede;fulfulde name)
■Ibi:Dominated by the Hausa and Jukun Muslims
■Sadauna:Haba mallam! How can you say the ratio here is 50/50 when the indigenous tribes are Mambilla,Fulani,Kaka,Panso and Kambu.The population of the last 3 tribes are isn't that much owing to the fact that they were remnants who stayed behind when Nigeria claimed the Mambilla plateau since they are originally from Cameroon(read up on that since u claimed to read wide,which I love though).The Mambillas are majorly Muslims and don't even give me that poo u posted up there,considering the factors earlier stated up.
■Gashaka:Also dominated by jibu Muslims and logically some few fulanis and Mambilla coz it borders Bali and Sadauna LGAs
■Ardo kola:Dominated by Fulanis as u have stated up but u should also know that the kona,mumuyes and yandang you mentioned also have few Muslims among them.Now tell me how their christian combination will usurp that of the muslims
■Zing:Mumuyes are majorly muslims and they effing dominate this area with insignificant Fulanis. this is evident by their emir (who I heard lost his life in the last HAJJ stampede)
■Lau:Dominated by Muslim fulanis and mumuye with some minor Christian-dominating tribes whose names I can't remember but they bear names like Banga,Madanga,Luna etc (you may knw the tribe with those names)

Now,CHRISTIAN DOMINANT LGAS
■Kurmi:overwhelmingly dominated by tigon, Ndola,Ichen etc ■Donga, ■Takum:Dominated by Jukun and Tiv
■Wukari:The Jukun headquarters headed by the AKUKA (consider the above factors).
■Yorro:the only LGA with large Christian mumuyes
■Ussa:Dominated by the kutebs
■Karim-lamido:this LGA is fucking too heterogeneous with over 15 (if not far more) very insignificant minority tribes. I concur with your analysis in this area but the ratio here is not overwhelming as you claimed,considering we have significant Muslim Jenjos,Karimjo,Gobu, Lo,Banbuka etc now added to the wurkum.
>>>>>>Now,compare this to yours with a clear mind brother


YOU CAN MISINFORM OTHER PEOPLE HERE BUT NOT MEEEEEE,atleast not after I''ve lived and mixed with them all

With all due respect i highly disagree with this analysis of yours.
It is obvious that you are not a northerner or middlebelter, so you may really not know a lot of things surrounding the history of the people.

****I would have engaged you here buh your first 3 lines/points clearly disqualified you.

Go n read about the indirect rule traditional system of govnmt that was practiced in the old northern Nigerian protectorate where the British colonialists classified almost all northern minority groups under hausa-fulani emirates for administrative convenience.
This is the reason why you see many northern minority groups still being ruled by fulani emirates in many northern states. So, your claim of the traditional rulers and their religions speaking for the majority of the people is purely ignorance!

>>>>> Do you know that 30 years ago, the only traditional rulers in Southern Kaduna were the Emir of Jema'a, Emir of Jere & Emir of Lere? All Southern Kaduna people were ruled n administrated directly from Zaria and the emirates there, buh did that stop Southern Kaduna from being 90- 95% christian?
Southern Kaduna people fought for n got all their independent chiefdoms you see there today in the last few decades.

••••``go n read northern history please.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:30am On Jun 23, 2017
Hati13:

3 million deaths in Nigeria civil war
Oh I never knew. You guys had a serious suffering times. Really sorry for that.

Is the number of your ethnic people small compared to others because of the atrocities committed against your people?

Not including History subject in Nigeria curriculum is understandable at a certain extent, but every country has a bitter history and history will teach others to not make mistake what their ancestors had done. Nigeria has great culture and history like the Benin kingdom and others, so the youths must know his.

By the looks of your concern for Nigeria, I'm sure you are no Biafran.

Yeah we did. Nigeria was divided by the Biafrans (Igbos n other minority groups) who declared seccession. The war lasted for 3 years until Biafra was defeated and re-merged back to Nigeria.
My people were direct neighbours to the Igbos (Biafra), so we suffered casualties, molestation and rape from Biafran soldiers. But the Biafrans suffered more because most countries of the world supported Nigeria.

~~~~~The attrocities i was talking about earlier were pre-colonial wars between Nigerian Kingdoms & empires. So there was really nothing like minority or majority then. Every kingdom for itself. The kingdom i descended from also conquered and enslaved other people/kingdoms, and likewise themselves were also enslaved, attacked n later islamized. It was a pre-colonial thing.

Yes, in today's Nigerian settings, my people are classified as minorities. If you are not Igbo, Hausa or Yoruba in Nigeria, you are a minority.
Buh being a minority in Nigeria is not so bad anymore since we now have dozens of state governments and most minority groups rule their own states. Minority groups only suffered oppression during the old regional governments.

**** I agree with you about history, buh even though history is not included in our academic curriculum as a subject, some bit of it is taught in other subjects n many Nigerians do educate themselves on their histories. Either ways, there are advantages n disadvantages of teaching history.

If history should be taught, i think it would be selective. They should remove the bitter parts and teach only the beautiful parts cheesy

>>>>>Your last statement is not really correct. Not all Igbos n Southern minorities support Biafra, many of them are patriotic Nigerians.

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