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LINSAR:
So I've been frequenting travel section visa threads for a while now. Each time I go there, I get discouraged.
You see people asking if 25 million naira proof of funds is enough or they need to add more
People traveling out every time and the cost is not little at all.

I know people get scholarships to study but it's very competitive and not certain. Even with scholarships, one will still need good money.

How are people from not so buoyant homes doing it? Is there a trick for people like us whose parents don't even have properties to sell for sponsorship?

Ps: USA is my goal, if this info is necessary.

You only need GRE fee, TOEFL fee, WES fee, SEVIS fee, visa application fee and flight ticket. Aside the UK, most countries' universities' offer scholarships, and as you stated, they are competitive. Why shouldn't they be? Everyone loves good things, and good things don't come easy or cheap. Yu must work hard for them. In order to compete, you need to have a competitive profile. I would outline the profile of folks I know one-on-one and from a distance:

- First class in Biotechnology from a private university and MSc from a federal university in the south east who is pursuing his PhD in the US. Source of funding: Graduate Fellowship (very competitive form of sponsorship by US' universities).
- First class in Biotechnology from a federal university who pursues his graduate studies in the US. His first class was even celebrated on the front page sef.
- First class in Chemistry from a federal university, and I think should be done with his PhD in the US. Prior to leaving Nigeria, he taught GRE/GMAT to job seekers in Nigeria.
- First class in Petrochemical engineering from a state university now in Canada pursuing his MSc, and as we discussed would move to the US for his PhD. He was a math teacher prior to leaving Nigeria.

While all are first class (including others too numerous to mention), there are also those with 2.1 who get scholarship to study abroad. I know one who did and would complete his PhD this year. I know another in Germany who we communicated via Nairaland and should be done with his PhD sef. Had a 4.33 in Chemistry from a state university. Myself, I had a 2.1 and got scholarships when I arrived. My parents said either I get scholarships as 25 million would not be spent even though they had/have it. No be only me dem born.

To secure these scholarships, your profile must be competitive, as admission into grad school is very competitive. I thought competition would have reduced as Chinese students shy away from the US, but Indians don cover the gap. First class graduates are more likely to be sponsored because foreign universities judge us mainly based on our grades before other factors compared to how they would assess Americans, Europeans or Chinese. A Chinese grad with 2.1. from Fudan University has little to exhibit compared to a 2.1. from UNIBEN. To compete favourably against that Fudan grad, it is better to possess a first class.

oluwaseyi0:
Demand vs supply

Most men want more than they are naturally entitled to which is sex with their wives so they are willing to pay for the extra

Bedding females irrespective of species requires some effort from male like toasting, caring, putting up appearances just like we can see in cases of bird singing and dancing for their females just for sex

The real reason is the insatiable demand for sex by men, it doesn't matter if man marries the most brilliant, sexy and caring woman he will still want to taste outside and this call girls are ready to fill in the gap, you can't really blame them

Most men will do same if there's insane demand for what's between their legs unfortunately most penis worth next to nothing in the marketplace and alternate penis substitution are freely, endlessly and readily available, same can't be said of pussy

You can say life no balance but it is what it is
It's nature

https://www.nairaland.com/7684230/how-reduce-hook-ups-nigeria

I explained the bold in the above link, yet I was criticised. Thank you so much for reiterating what I've explained in simpler and shorter sentences.

Nigerian men fuel the hookup trade. Younger men who are poor should not lampoon the ladies, but their richer counterparts.

franchasofficia:
This one is theory dear, in reality, if you have 30 packs, and 7ft tall but broke in Nigeria, na

Back in those days we just finished NYSC and doing underpaid jobs, let me not talk about myself cos I am not up to 6ft in height, but I have lots of friends who were 6ft and 6ft plus with amazing body build, in fact we have a funny name for ourselves back then; "ndi fine boy, ndi oji amu ejighi ego". Most of them were lonely as fvck, and most survived by mastuxbation and turning to complete born again brothers, chicks no look them face then despite efforts to hook one.
E no easy to be a broke guy in Nigeria oh, they are the most neglected and disliked group in Nigeria

Shout out to all broke struggling guys out there, don't be discouraged, your tomorrow will be greater than your today, just keep being the best you can in whatever you lay your hands upon, be diligent in your job, career, handwork, craft or business, God will surely remember you at your set time

Life is hard for the average Nigerian male.

Chai!

Nursepepeye:
who is even calling Nigeria 3rd world country, Nigeria is a 300rd word country, backwardness is our name, if not, in 2024, how can a country with government allow some useless people to be talking about rituals taking victims body hostages for a ransom?. I don't understand

Honestly, the country and its inhabitants are backward. No be to dey use iPhone or speaking phonee, most Nigerians have archaic thought processes. We get long way to go for Nigeria o. A lot to unlearn, relearn and learn.

ednut1:
If people were getting married like that in Nigeria we wont have thousands of women going to shiloh or northern governors organizing mass weddings. We wont have cases of side chicks or women stealing other people’s husbands 😄.

The way marriage is viewed in many countries abroad is not the same as Nigeria. In the west for example many women have chosen not to marry nor have children. Also many recent immigrants need extra time to sort papers, education etc and hence delaying marriage. In Nigeria too you can send your wife packing in case of divorce. But in abroad you can lose your assets.

So if you have built myself abroad( nice houses, cars, money in the bank , career etc) will you want to get married

The cost of raising children is another deterrent. In Nigeria, one can have each mom take turns in taking care of the children, not so in the abroad. The issue isn't really marriage, but the costs involved in raising children. Also, unless one has a strong "I must marry" mentality from home, being abroad would even make most immigrants postpone marriage indefinitely. This, I believe, is more applicable to women as there is greater freedom, they earn equally, more opportunities to part-take in various activities, more ways to unwind/entertainment etc. The notion of marriage would change as the reasons now differ. The question is: why marry?

I understand OP's concern, but the reality is that one's environment shapes a child's outlook and upbringing. There would have to be concerted efforts in shaping the child(ren) towards religion as the society is irreligious or in some cases, anti-Christianity. Folks would have to ask older immigrants their strategies and mistakes to know how far. But if you expect your children to be as religious or church-going as you, sorry, that would not be possible. If na so, how many second-generation blacks do you see in churches across the UK?

[quote author=wwwtortoise post=129419734]Chimamandan Adichie as the face of feminism in contemporary and of Igbo descent gives a false projection of Igbo women as being the Centre of feminism.

I could easily counter that by saying that Funmilayo Ransom Kuti is the pioneer of feminism in Nigeria.

As with all noble ideologies, core values are being watered down with passage of time. Cultism, Feminism, religion. . . just name it.

Can you point me to statistics that underline your assertion that Igbo women are at the center of feminism in Nigeria?[/quote]I was not the one who mentioned or referenced the bold. As for your last wordings, my bad for stating as a fact. It is an observation, not a fact. So no statistics.

Draslo:
That's why I said they revolutionised hookup. They are well exposed and speak well. Before, hookup girls go blast you in pidgin. They're the ones that made the average hookup girl decide to talk posh and form classy. Na them make hook up girls for club dey lie say their papa Na billionaire for VGC and their mama na top banker. Before, all these lamba no dey.

Interesting. Thanks for your response. So, where do these private uni girls who play the hookup trade congregate? That is, where can a potential patron find them?

Thanks.

Homiesjinxbank:
Calculate the minimum wage of any EU countries you Know then do the conversion..

No matter the name of the EU countries, you will pay rent all the basics Amenities and still have enough with you.

You can not tell me otherwise.

Tell that to the 40-year-old men sharing apartments and lie that they earn 5K euros after taxes. I did not make those claims; those men did.

tensazangetsu20:
Maybe he went to Switzerland lol or Austria. Places where you need to be very high IQ to make it

Honestly, when I visit that country, I must search and engage with every black person I see. I want to learn one or two things.

[quote author=wwwtortoise post=129418580]You lot are quick to make umbrella statements without reflecting on intrinsic specifics.

My heart goes out to your followers who swallow your output hook, line and sinker.[/quote]I did not state anything categorically. I only reference a friend who was born and bred in the East. Why should I lie? If you have any counter opinion or fact, please state it. But attacking one's personality or post without well constructed criticism or fact is foolhardy.

So, in your opinion, wwwtortoise, why does it seem that Igbo women are at the centre of feminism and lesbianism in Nigeria?

Karleb:
I feel like flogging some igbo women sometimes.

Igbo men do the most in the place of love and even family. I heard any child born into an igbo man's family automatically become his by tradition.

A lot of you can't see through this because it's has been baked into tradition. Despite this, you people still have the most ungrateful set of women. I still wonder how feminism appeal to igbo women so much. Could it be because of Chimamanda?

Some say na because Igbo laws and traditions are patriarchal, but which culture in Nigeria isn't? I discussed this with a friend who was born and bred in the East. In his opinion, Igbos like to adopt anything in vogue. The culture encourages it, and with Christianity being a liberal religion, it becomes easier. The problem with this adoption is that people also adopt nonsense without considering their environment and long-term effects.

Anyway, good luck to men who marry modern Igbo women.

DyingFetus:
lady boys are alot more in china than canada

Let's assume they are a lot more lady boys in China than Canada, I strongly doubt China would use their acceptance into a borrower's constitution before lending money. Just as the way the IMF and World Bank refused to lend to Uganda and threatened to withdraw loans lent to Ghana.

That is why I love China. They don't force their cultural beliefs on others. Do business, eat pork, drink alcohol, speak Mandarin and go home happy. Chinese love alcohol and pork, but have NEVER included or forced Arabs to indulge in them. In fact, I have read that they are mindful of exchanging gifts related to both items when dealing with Arabs.

ariesbull:
You are right very right

You never still wan mention the name of these EU countries. Just the name, please.

toujurs:
That's the problem, and this cowardice is among igbo men.

They would look so unkempt so they can, provide for their babe who could leave them. So much myopic men. With inferiority complex.

Hopefully, I get to see this description in action with time. Cos as I dey, I spend on myself first - the best thing money can buy. Looking tacky in the name of "the wealth of a man is seen in his wife" no follow. My Igbo no reach that level. Upon this spending on their wives, their daughters later become active feminists with a touch of lesbianism.

To what end?

EVer since this transgender nonsense, I don't regard these western countries as saner climes. There is nothing saner in this nonsense.

Thank God for China.

ariesbull:
Lord bless you...they were telling huge lies ! They can't make 5k euros every month or even in a year !

Europe go humble you

So, which European countries are these your guys located? The one where they earn 5K euros after taxes.

Homiesjinxbank:
Over there you will see that #5million in 1-2 month, but can you see that same #5million in 1-2 months here in Nigeria?

You are not spending naira in the EU or euros in Nigeria. The so-called exchange rate does not hold. Your expenses are in Euros, ditto your earnings. Comot your eye for that exchange rate. It would not favour you o. Obviously, as your income rises, you can comfortably send something home, no matter how small the difference go make sense. But while earning lowly, living in the abroad can be frustrating. Living abroad is enjoyable when one earns well, well educated, speak the native language, is a naturalised citizen etc. Also, the person's previous living conditions in Nigeria must be considered. A truckpusher in Nigeria who moves to Switzerland to pluck fruits or become maiguard has made it, but not so for an accountant or medical laboratory professional in Nigeria who moves to same Switzerland to become a security man.

Eunoiaa:
At the end of the day, he who is the piper plays the tune. (I am loving this phrase so much nowadays, and find it aptly justifying for so many things). Only a person can/will decide whoever they want to go for as they so wish, inspite of you and I's misgivings.

By the way, the word is eunoia; it's Greek. I don't know if it's a Nigerian thing that's making y'all think it's some adulterated or refined version of 'Eniola' or 'Niola.'

Yes, he who pays the piper dictates the tune. It sounds unfair, but life itself is unfair.

@Your name: The meaning is nice. Yes, changing it is a Nigerian thing as my previous alteration is the closest to your moniker. First time coming across it and knowing it is an actual word on its own.

pansophist:
China has overtaken them. I would rather send my kids to go study in China than the US for example.

You don't want to send your son to school, then he comes back telling you how there are 100 genders lol.

As Treadway said, the rest of the world bar China, only in the sciences, now accept anything Western as the numero-uno. For sciences, the West is still a good place a study, but should be careful in basic biology. But outside sciences, better to study in one's home country or use it as a japa route. Honestly, I am glad China is now an option for many people, especially for us from the Global South.

kkins25:
To be honest with you guys, if I see the word delve in a certain manner in any content, I immediately scrutinize text for AI. Before u start dey yab me, ask me to clarify.

You are a Ghanaian, so it is not an issue. Even for Paul, I can understand his surprise, but him deriding our answers why it is widely used by the average Nigerian was not fair. In his defence, I would say since one is looking for American investors, s/he has to write like Americans.

All the same, in a capitalist world, the likes of Paul would win outrightly. We either become wealthy like the Pauls of this world or keep mum.

ariesbull:
Chai Bro people spend 20m to 30m.
Some times is not someone’s fault, it is the perception one has. Before I traveled , my guys that were here told me they were making over 5000 euros a month after bills, so I was so desperate. I finally got here to find out that they don’t even have apartment of their own and not to talk of 5000 euro a month. The only reason why I didn’t regret it was that i didn’t contribute one naira to my travelling expenses. Imagine me spending 20 to 30m to experience what I saw when I came here, I wouldn’t I have forgiven them.
If not for social media, no body in Nigeria would have known that abroad is just packaging.
That is y I tell those who want to come the truth, so that they will prepare themselves financially and mentally before travelling.
Imagine guys in their late 40s still not married, no child, in dis abroad. A man who is supposed to be a family man will still be sharing apartments because of bills.

Obviously, they lied. Any Nigerian who makes 5K euros after taxes and bills in Continental Europe is highly skilled, most likely a naturalised citizen, speaks the native language, graduated from an elite university etc. Sorry, but the majority of Nigerians in Continental Europe are not in that group. Even for second generation Nigerians in Continental Europe (Nigerian parents, not biracial), I sincerely doubt.

In the US and UK, it is possible, most especially in the US as it is unarguably the best place to be a skilled black professional.

P.S. Which countries are these friends living?

ednut1:
why do you guys like to focus on the negatives Are there no Nigerian doctors, nurses, tech bros, auditors hired directly from Nigeria in UK. They didn’t spend 20-30m. Are they no Nigerian in big companies in Canada, USA, UAE, Germany, Belgium, Saudi etc.
Anyone who spent 20-30m for uk care work or study visa took a gamble that may or may not work. Their choice

We should look at the numbers as those people constitute a minute proportion of this new-age japa folks. Nigerians had a 1:1 migrant: dependant ratio in the UK. Certainly, the majority cannot be doctors, auditors or tech broses. The study route is the major means out of Nigeria, so work visa-dependent folks would always be in the minority. In summary, the majority of these new-age Nigerian migrants to the UK spent more than 10M to process their emigration.

maternal:
Nigerian immigrants abroad are the most successful among other immigrants. It's a fact. It's your loser friends that are the minority

In the US, Nigerians are not in the top five and earn marginally higher than native African Americans. In the UK, Nigerians are not higher earners and blacks there earn very low compared to other ethnic minorities. Elsewhere is going to be worse as the black population is below 2%, and they are not as capitalistic as the UK and US.

Raalsalghul:
Oh so you have read this book by Jared Diamond?

I am currently on Chapter 13.

No. I only read the Wikipedia part of the book.

Blessed4sure:
The Federal Government institutions can do much better, but a private institution coming tops is not necessarily a cause for shame.

Please browse the top five universities in the world. Most are private.

At least 8 of the top 10 universities in the USA are all privately owned.

Because they are located in the US. Most best universities outside the US are publicly owned.

Johncuppa:
You've not been around for a while.
Covenant university has been taken a lead and competing with federal universities since.

Harvard, Oxford, Cambridge are not advance secondary schools because they are private now.

Publicly owned*

The best universities in the UK are publicly owned. The US is the only major country where the best universities are privately owned.

bmaster2000:
None of Ibo's private or public universities makes it to the 10 ..and they will come here and boast about their education acumen ...and WAEC result performances......pls., is it with the WaEC result that miracle centres plenty pass real centres...

Where mercenaries are used in most of the centres ...we are seeing the product all over ...it can be evidently seen.

UNN is number 7. Tribal jaundice won't allow you to see clearly. The Civil War greatly affected the growth of universities in the East. However, Igbos have grown and compete favourably in universities outside the East. A previous second BGS from UI is an Igbo lady, who is now an associate professor in China. A significant proportion of non-Northern students in most northern universities are Igbos. UniJos, universities in Adamawa, Borno, Sokoto etc. Covenant University, being Christian-owned gets a significant proportion of students from the East. Go and check for yourself, most CU students are Igbos. In fact, as the country gets more Islamised, church-owned universities, especially those in the SW, would have to rely on Igbos and ethnic minorities in the south south to fill them.

Additionally, it seems you are pained that Igbos dominate national examination rankings. Mind you, this has been historical, if not for the war, most ethnic groups would not see the backs of Igbos in national examinations. So, what you see is what has always been - Igbos dominate national examination rankings.

P.S. I don't expect you to believe me, but for unsuspecting readers and the general public, I consider it important to dispel lies on the Internet.

ChiefS:
Ranking is not always very accurate and does not reflect reality and true picture. The truth is that private universities devote a lot of time to documentation and tailor all their energies into coming tops in global rankings.

This is true and especially a reason most science academics are not fond of the THEducation rankings compared to ARWU or QS rankings. For instance, the National University of Singapore and Nanyang University of Technology are ranked above some elite universities in the US, even though nothing exemplary or special or renowned has emanated from either NUS or NTU.

Many of the private universities are serviced by staff of Federal Universities as adjuncts.

To be fair, this point does not concern rankings. It is how those staff behave or their output that matters, not who employed them.

Ranking can be misleading as it does not reflect the quality of teaching and impact of the products of the universities.

That is not true. Quality of teaching is a methodology in both the QS and THEducation rankings.

For instance, there is no way a university less than 20 years can match the impact of the University of Ibadan which has existed for more than 70 years and produced various global icons. The truth is that the research of many old or retired professors at such universities may not be available online.

Sure, older schools would always top research output. But the bold is a weak point. Any research which is not publicly available for perusal or critical review is not worth its salt. If the research is so good, publish it or use it to obtain a patent.

SoNature:
Look at the yardstick used for ranking those universities. Private universities are supposed to be doing much better than public schools because they have enough funding to reach their goals. Educational institutions are useless without money.

I have to praise Covenant University for outpacing other private universities that started before them like Igbenedion University and Madonna University. Those two varsities are merely glorified secondary schools.

Poor management. Hate or love David Oyedepo, but he is a good manager who strives for excellence. Kudos to him and CU. I am proud to state I predicted Covenant's growth on Nairaland since 2016/17.

Nigeria's Harvard!

Draslo:
Covenant, Babcock and Bells girls revolutionised hookup

Please explain further as I find it surprising since it is expected their parents are well-to-do.

Eunoiaa:
This is so black-and-white thinking that I don't even know where to start from, my God. 😭😭

Please, pardon my job references but I hope it's able to communicate my point across effectively.

You made great points in this post, especially regarding the post about the student who worked assiduously in school achieving high grades, then getting shitty treatment from a company. Fair agreement. However, Euniola, you see the hormone Testosterone? It is a hormone, not a m.oron. Also, in my post, I exonerated women who were virgins prior to marriage and those whose men don't provide for their families.

Ormoretayour:
Vesti helped out with d job offer too, that what dey used for the lottery. They introduced me to the company that gave the offer.

So, how come folks with stellar work experience and degrees from elite institutions don't know about this firm that links foreign applicants to companies that intentionally wish to employ them and file for their H1Bs?