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Ishitinyourlife:
I live in the west, I'm single and in my late thirties, I work independently I have a store/cybercafe/gamehouse where I sell electronics like home sound system, games, pads, phone accessories, mobile phones etc and I also have a cyber cafe and a game house in the same building.

I have about 6 workers that run the place with me cos I can't be everywhere at all time and the shop is a little big. Among my workers is a very beautiful 22 year old undergraduate that works for me when she gets off school and during holidays. I like all my workers and I treat them right but I'm not really a guy that gets personal with people so they know I have boundaries, but this girl is exceptional. She takes her work diligently makes even more sales than me in the shop most of the time cos she is good with people.

This girl is very attractive and she dresses nice too. She doesn't wear revealing clothes. She's modest, all calm. I used to buy food from restaurants to eat in the shop before because I don't really like cooking but she told me I don't need to do that, she can make my food and bring it over to the shop for me. Like she will bring me food in the morning before school and afternoon and she refused to collect a dime from me.

People are starting to feel a certain vibe among us cos she smiles whenever she looks at me and even my workers do call her oga's wife jokingly.

In truth I like the girl but I don't know if asking her out might cause a problem to my business.

Advise me please.

TAO11:
You want to kill me for exposing lies??

TAO11:
Where is the picture of your brain??

No picture --- then no brain for yoh!!


Anyways, sane and sensible people know that articles published in journals of archaeology, etc. are authoritative even if written in words.

I have been cited authoritative journals with detailed reference and links to the materials with page number. But you're dead-scared to open and read.

Get yourself "Queen Primer" it has pictures and text. Start learning to read from there.

I hope you won't comit suicide sha.

Truth is bitter, I understand.

Mraphel:
Go and read the ogiamien history in Edo.

A yoruba war lord Oranmiyan from Ife kingdom faught and won the war against the igodomigodo..he was the father of Oba Eweka. He named the town he founded Ile ibinu now known as benin. He's from Yoruba's extraction.

Have you asked why Oba of Benin's head are buried at Orun oba ado in Ife?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/features/ogiso-and-ogiamien-are-aborigine-binis-while-oba-of-benin-is-of-yoruba-descent-high-chief-esotericist-monday-wehere/

Probz:
I didn’t say that but most of these foods tend to originate with either ndi Igbo or ndi Yoruba because we share the same root. Other tribes tend to have adapted these foods from one or the other.

Mraphel:
There's no igodomigodo and Ife connection but we have the Ife and Benin connection..your palace cannot refute it

Why is your palace using Oba(Yoruba) as opposed to Ogiso(Igodomigodo) as monarch?

Mraphel:
There's no igodomigodo and Ife connection but we have the Ife and Benin connection..your palace cannot refute it

Why is your palace using Oba(Yoruba) as opposed to Ogiso(Igodomigodo) as monarch?

Mraphel:
You know nothing about Edo history. About five years ago, your believed Oranmiyan was never a king in benin until Your Oba clears the air during his coronation

TAO11:
I exchange only with people having something upstairs. Go get yourself Queen Primer.

Go away, let your elders talk to me.

TAO11:
I have already warned that you are not allowed to just imagine stuffs. Bring your evidence just as I have been doing.

Moreover, no ancient Benin sculpture (let alone of its king) was ever found in Ife palace.

The president doesn't keep the official portrait of a governor in his office. Its always the other way round.

Moreover, the figure was dated early 1300, and was excavated.

But even your imagination of another tribe supports connection, therefore demolishing your brothers' latest damage control.


It's a pity you went against what you all agreed unknowingly.




Moving on to the next one (Orun ObA Ado straight) while you all struggle for life on this one.

MetaPhysical

TAO11:
You're in a hurry. You will soon run away like a fool as always.

Chill, why are you shaking already??

Moneywomen17:
lol so the truth is that Benin story have been changing from generations to generation. Well am not surprised that’s what happens with oral history. With that said u said the original story that Elkhadaren or whoever he was escaped to ughoton and there is no correlation to ife or any oduduwa. So ife and oduduwa seperate from Benin and elkhadaren. I want u to acknowledge this before I move on to my next point.

Moneywomen17:
then oba of Benin must be part of that delusion cuz when he came to ife he acknowledged oduduwa and oranmiyan as his ancestors

davidnazee:
This your comment just brought a question to my mind to as the Yorubas.

The early Europeans never mentioned the name Ife in their writings and binis never mentioned Ife but uhe.
So please Yoruba people, what was the early name of Ife?? If it has always been called Ife then the place mentioned by the early writers and bini was not Ife because they couldn’t have mistaken the name for another name.

Sarah20A:
they might be rhetorical questions to you but to me they are not.no knowledge is lost

darfay:
I am more interested in how bini/ Edo speaking people existed and were an organized society in the 1400's but a minority ethnic group today. An investigation should be carried out on that. No history of plagues etc. I actually meant to quote you in the ogane thread

Cc gregboy

darfay:
So the old Benin empire traded elephant tusk, I was personally wondering why we have a word it (urhobo and isoko people) if it isn't found in those areas where this ethnicities reside in. There is an urhobo town named evreni (elephant town) . Maybe it was hunted to extinction, but again elephant are know to habit grasslands and not dense forest. Well, who knows?

samuk:
More on Benin/Igala relationship told by the Igalas themselves. There is also a nollywood movie by Mercy Johnson.

You can find the history and her statue on the internet.

The Legend of Igala Kingdom- Princess In
Princess Inikpi of Kogi

According to historical records, It all started with a war between Benin & the Igala people which caused the land to be unsafe, farmlands were taken over by the enemies and stream been poisoned so that anyone that drank from them would die. Nowhere was safe at all.

The Igalas feared imminent death from starvation and lack of water. When the Atta (King) consulted the oracle, it proclaimed that a reversal of their misfortune and victory in the war could only come when the princess, the only daughter of the king is buried alive. — Princess Inikpi.

Surely, the king was distraught heartbroken and shaded tears. For days, he didn’t eat or drink and he wished for an alternative solution. Of cos, no father would just agree for any of his children to be buried alive not to talk about the only child of the Atta (King).

The princess noticed the worries of her father and asked to know the reason for his sadness. Instead of opening up, he held off telling her the reason for seven days, but on the eighth, he relented and told her the words of the Oracle.

The Princess loved his father and her people as much as they loved her, could not bear the thought of holding off on the solution that would save Igala land. Princess Inikpi did not object, she did not fight. Therefore, she agreed to be sacrificed and set off voluntarily to the bank of River Niger at Idah (some say market square), where she was buried along with 9 slaves who would help her in the journey to the afterlife.



It was a sad resolution but the Igala people hailed her for her heroism. after the sacrifice, the story went on that as the Bini armies advanced to swoop, they saw the whole town in FLAMES and retreated feeling that there was no need taking the war to a place already on fire; but it was the blood of Inikpi that deceived them. However, it was the influence of the sacrifice.

Observance of the role the Princess played in averting disaster in Igala land still represents an important historical event in the life of the igala people. Today, so many people in Idah bear the name Inikpi in honour of the princess.

The sacrifice was a costly one, very expensive indeed, it, however, made peace reign again in Igala land.

Till today, the late Princess Inikpi who was sacrificed so that the Igalas might live remains the unifying factor in Igala land.

For this, the Igala people are forever deeply grateful to Princess Inikpi for her sacrifice and act of heroism. A statue of the princess stands at “Ega” in Idah, which is considered the Igala traditional headquarters. Several plays have also been produced to celebrate her story

MetaPhysical:
In fact, Thornton published a book to put forward a claim that Oba of Benin was subject of a King of Nupe/Igala.

Whichever direction you take Benin is accounted as a lesser King to a much greater King ....a foreigner that lives elsewhere.

You can counter Yoruba claim but you cannot escape from the fact that Oba derived authority from another ethnic. This is your burden for eternity!

cc
TAO11

samuk:
The Benin people of this generation could all come together to research and author a book into the true Benin/Ife relationship.

Those of us abroad that have access to various museums that host Benin artworks, should continue to study those artworks for what they represent and depict rather than seeing them as some decorative ornament of no significant purpose.

Those artworks were the photographs of their time.

See how you were able to match the artwork that depicts a messager with the people of Nupe/Igala from ther facial tribal mark and disproved it referring to an Ife messager as previously being claimed by the Yorubas.

Numerous Benin artworks could have also depicted various tribes across Nigeria of 15c, 16c 17c and 18 centuries.

We shouldn't just seat back and allow the Yorubas to claim they were the only tribes these artworks represent or depicted.

I am sure Yoruba people would have been depicted in Benin artworks also but we should be able to tell the difference between an artwork showing Yoruba people from Igala and people of old eastern Nigeria.

samuk:
Interesting, where you able to make contact with Imaseun Izoduwa, you seems to have a flare for research, you guys and other Benins here could complement each others.

Poor Yoruba nairalanders, they don't know what has hit them.

samuk:
Lol. Even Metaphysical has see that their Orun Oba Ado is a lie, fake and fabrication.

I hope TAO11 will not have a heart attack when he sees the post from Metaphysical saying the same thing as the Benins, that the Benin Obas were buried in Benin and their bodies/head never exhumed and taken to Ife, the reason no human bones were found in their Orun Oba Ado when it was excavated.

Imagine your team mate giving you such an uppercut, a red eye and bloodied nose, there is no recovery from this unless TAO11 is shameless.

Let TAO11 and other of his Yoruba liars come and argue with their brother Metaphysical that he is not correct.

Now that Metaphysical has now agree with the Benins on this fake Orun Oba Ado, case closed.

The world can now see that even the Yorubas known themselves that the Benin/Ife connections was a fabrication.

I did say on the other thread that their arguments have become weaker even to themselves after all the evidences that were produced and analysed, including watering sources that was disproved.

Poor TAO11, how will him be feeling now, especially knowing that our Igbo brothers and other tribes will also be reading this post.

Don't be surprised if TAO11 still shamelessly come out to say something.

Can we now see how confused these Yoruba history revisionists are.

Gregyboy thanks for pushing them hard enough for them to start contradicting themselves.

TAO11 entire Benin/Ife relationship is based on the Orun Oba Ado fallacy that has just been shattered by his Yoruba brother Metaphysical calling him and the English man Willie stupid and foolish for believing such nonsense to the point of wasting his time to excavates the empty sites.

Imagine them even creating a burial site for female Obas of Benin thinking that Benin had female Obas.

MetaPhysical:
You are still uncivilized gregyboy, still very uncivilized!

There are rites performed at succession to thrones and the new king takes a sacred oath over the body of the predecessor. This oath seals the continuity of dynasty. Once the predecessor is put into ground his remains can never, and must never, again come out. Its a taboo to exhume a king. This is reason they are never buried in cemetry.

If you exhume the heads of kings their successors will perish.

Willett was told by your chiefs in Edo the tradition of sending the head of your Oba for burial in Ife. Willett went to Ife and corroborated the story. He asked to see the site and it was shown to him. He went about digging the sites looking for buried heads. What a foolish Englishman! Did he expect the people to break their taboos because an Englishman wanted to prove their account? The most absurd request!

The fact that both side corroborate same account should be enuff.

Your elders say its tradition in Benin, Ife say its tradition but your forest-roaming instinct wants a dig.

People are not reckless like you and Willett.


Cc
Tao11

TAO11:
Your IQ is single-digited.

So, I understand your request for pictures.

Written texts scare people with single digit IQ.

And you actually confessed it in one of your comments --- you said reading text scares you.

I have, therefore, adviced you to get yourself some copies of Queen Primer.

Begin learning to read with it, for it has both text and pictures.

Your single-digited-IQ reasoning is typical of a guy whom a "yahoo boy" will send pictures of a girl to claiming that's him in exchange for money.

He knows well that you love pictures unreasonably.

TAO11:
Again:
https://www.nairaland.com/5713629/main-reasons-yoruba-not-enlisted/18#88149224

https://www.nairaland.com/5713629/main-reasons-yoruba-not-enlisted/18#88149121

Regarding the fact contained in the attachment on Oduduwa festival: see: The Stories Told By My GrandFather. Sorry --- typographical error, crossed out.

Rather, see: The Art Institute of Chicago
https://archive.artic.edu/benin/rituals/

Dyonne:
There is a relationship it's just that there's disagreement on what that relationship is.
History is very clear though and the Benin Empire extended even beyond Yoruba land into Dahomey.

This is very well documented. If the Benins had used the same model as the British Empire, we wouldn't be having this discussion as Yorubas would be speaking Benin language today.

TAO11:
J. U. Egharevba, Benin Law and Custom, (CMS Niger Press, Port Harcourt 1946), p.72.

PortHarcourt Press too must be punished for changing the words in Egharevba's works./s

TAO11:
https://www.nairaland.com/5713629/main-reasons-yoruba-not-enlisted/18#88149224


https://www.nairaland.com/5713629/main-reasons-yoruba-not-enlisted/18#88149121

Attached too.