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Yujin:
Your ignorance stink. All traditional worshippers use schnapps hotdrink for libations; does it mean they originally owned it? Oha soup is traditionally ours still non of our neighbors prepared it all along too. Igbos own Egwusi soup and have different methods of preparing it so much that they still rule over its sales the world over. Why not your Edo people and any other tribe do a contest with the Igbos on egwusi soup preparation. Obviously, you know you'll lose flatly.

Lol, you write ups are just full claims with no evidence back them up you tell me the east prepares egusi in varieties so does that make them own it

Schnapo is a whiteman gin introduced to africans by europeans the drink of an african was palmwine, it is clearly stated in history books Portuguese had brought schnapps (gins) to benins in exchange of local products little wonder why the niger delta are into schnapps than drink beer the other tribes who started using schnapps recdntly adopted it because they never had contact with the white untill recently when the britsh arrived.....

Dont drag it egusi is not igbo it more edo and yoruba that it will ever be igbo

Pumkin plant if research is carfied may be sven foreign to africa regardless of that pumkin is a plant that is grown in nigeria but igbos word for it
Ugu that does not connate it origin originate from igbos

Yujin:
Your last paragraph is an insult but I won't respond in kind on all Edo people because I respect their history. You unfortunately are a spoilt brat with not respect and devoid of any sense of anthropology. So, it was the Bini people that taught Igbos wood carving? You'll say it was the Bini that taught Igbos palmoil extraction that usual mortars and pestle for the process. Our masquerade masks were carved by the Binis right? What about your traditional market days; isn't it the Igbos you got it from? If you must argue, don't disrespect us again.

Palm oil extractions was done by the Europeans africans supplied europeans the palm oil nut
Oil extractions, tho some africans extracted most didnt they sold the palm fruit to the Europeans to extract the igobs adopted
Mortal and pistol recently unless you want to take me to the wood carvers in the east that had made them....
Cultures is borrowed the east borrowed so many

Untill you prove me wrong

The red coral beads from benin that is been generalized today in southern part of nigeria would you say it comes from igbos because igbos wear it too

Osagyefo98:
Edo?

Are you okay?


Edo state belongs to Oduduwa republic or any name Yoruba decides to call their republic in future.

Both of you are mad

AmuDimpka:
Yoruba tat doesn't even have a meaning a tribe that was named by Fulani (Yoruba) and have everything borrowed from their dressing which they copies the Fulani to their names.....

Egwusi is an Igbo word
Okwro is an Igbo word
Ugu is an Igbo word
Ube is an Igbo word

And by that you belive they own it
Because the names of those food are igbo names and are now generalized word it now means the other tribes don't have the words for them abi
How pathetic,

They all have igbo names so also they have thier various names in other various tribe the igbos name for them became generalized does notconnate it origin

If you have to claims those crops there you have to start from thier origin and not just naming

Yujin:
Are you saying Igbos learnt about Egwusi from Edo(Bini) people? That you offer pounded yam and Egwusi soup to idols doesn't make you the sole owner of the food. Lol. So it equally means we learnt how to pound yam from Edo people too. Gregyboy, you sound so much like a kid. You should be able to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the now popular egusi soup was originally bini traditional soup to convince anyone.

. Guy there is no culture that cannot be adopted igbos adopted so many culture in the present nigeria to form theirs including pounded yam

Igbos never had woox carvers to carve out mortal and pistol for pounding did they benin had an ancient guils system called egbesama( wood carvers) in acient benin

I would never take igbo culture serious because they are all borrowed

Yujin:
Are you saying Igbos learnt about Egwusi from Edo(Bini) people? That you offer pounded yam and Egwusi soup to idols doesn't make you the sole owner of the food. Lol. So it equally means we learnt how to pound yam from Edo people too. Gregyboy, you sound so much like a kid. You should be able to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the now popular egusi soup was originally bini traditional soup to convince anyone.

You have no proves lemme break it down


Egusi soup is most eating in southern part of nigeria, in d southern part of Nigeria only part of yorubas, edo and igbos claims egusi soup though it a general food eating in southern nigeria the other part of the yorubas dont lay claims to having egusi soup, just the eastern part of yorubas close to edo
The edo and the eastern yoruba eat almost same meal drom black soup to egusi due to cultural ties, the igbos are the aliens here they both dont share any cultural link between the edo or yorubas the nearest neigbours to the east dont even lay claim to egusi if its true they had been eating egusi since inception they might have influenced thier neigbours from niger delta region

Egusi is never an igbo soup so drop it


If it was never original to the edos then they will never use it for religious purpose in edo

Yujin:
Your ignorance is without measure. Do you know that there are different species of melons? Do you know that not all melons have fine seeds that are eventually used for making the soup? Would you say because coconut tree- a family of the palm tree was introduced to West Africa, therefore all palm trees weren't indigenous? Where in Asia is Egwusi soup cooked traditionally? That the Igbos cook it traditionally for over 3 centuries gives them the right to claim ownership of it notwithstanding whether melon was introduced to West Africa or not. Amala is a derivative of yam which is very diversified in West and Central Africa, yet Yorubas reserve the right to claim ownership of it because only them utilized the particular process of making it. Do you understand?

Guy am edo,

I will invite you to were the Benin offer food to his ancestors and you will attest that egusi and pounded yam is a benin food

The benin people have three original soup unique to them fortunately one became generalized egusi and pounded

Egisi soup
Black soup
Cotton soup

Cotton soup have been aborted from the edo food it just remaining the other two

And do you know the people that eat thesame soup as the edo people are the ondo people
I was surprised wgen i went to ondo last year and they told me they have black soup(bitter leaf soup) and egisi too

Like i said the only people who are entitled
To claim egusi is edo and eastern yoruba people

Igbos should forget it, it was never thiers all our cultures in benin have been generalized atleast what we can get is acknowledgment to the benin people, egusi maybe an igbo world for the soup but it does not connote it origin of any kind to the igbo people we call it melon soup and the benin word ogi, its foreigners that call it egusi soup here


Egusi

Whogoes:
Good morning nairalanders
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I was like hmmmmmm . So I used that opportunity to ask her to be my girlfriend and she accepted. Now the problem began when I invited her to my house. She refused and gave an excuse.
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There was a time I asked her if she really love me as she claims and she strongly sweared about that . That she loves me so much bla bla bla .
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Now I am wondering if that is love or lust . Maybe she just want my money or what do you guys think. I don't want to buy her any phone . Ofcourse I can't do that unless she proves herself
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Please I need your advice . Matured minds only

You are just as greedy as the lady

She wants phone give her, give not because you want to date her or sex her, you're the most greedy person here

Both of you will get what you want if you both will come clean

letu:
Based on the articles that gregyboy keeps throwing up and down, it means the answer to your question is No, according to gregyboy our lands where only made up of trees, grass and vegetables, this means our ancestors were only eating fruits and vegetables until the coming of whites eg Portuguese, introducing seeds to blacks (west Africa) inwhich they teach blacks eg pre colonia southern Nigeria how to practice farming and also introduce tools needed for farming I guess, to stretch it a little they also introduce blacksmithing, gregyboy write-up/articles are nothing but an Eurocentric view and also gregyboy is a student of Eurocentric school of thought.

There is no eurocentrism in my writeup if you're so afrocentrisic then debunk the articles with proves anf not claims

blowjohn:
What's that for?
From Ore to akure to ekiti and especially Ogun state na so so kidnappers and rituals.
Then u enter benin na so so babalawos and fetishes

Lol,,


Dont call our religion fetish you bigoted whiteman worshipers

The yorubas will come visit you soon

blowjohn:
Yoruba like ritual sha.
But nobody like juju reach benin

U dey mad

MelesZenawi:
Still same thing.

Binis are yorubas

Yorubas are edos...


All na still same and one people. Both are same and one people.

Tell the igbos they have no fucking right to clain eguisi

Egusi plant were bought by the Portuguese from asia and didn't magically grow in the east

MelesZenawi:
It is a waste of time engaging people with 7 local governments.

We are not your mates...

Argue with your fellow yorubas because binis are yorubas and vice versa.

Thats why igbos are always waste of time in nigeria


A tribe full of pain, constantly marginalized
Like they have one local govt

Untill you bring prove to claim its your soup

You can run away freely and not argue with 7local govt people

MelesZenawi:
Binis are yorubas.

The denial is weak...Binis are yorubas.

Yorubas are edos


I can back my claims can you?

MelesZenawi:
No mind them Benin are yorubas.

Yorubas are benins


We gave you all the most precious ooni
Oduduwa and not the fairytale guy who trekked from mecca or the nigga that was a climber

MelesZenawi:
Oga edo no get soup.

You guys should stop disturbing us with una 5 to 7 local government area.

Egusi na Igbo personified and na Igbos cook am well to satisfaction.

Lol,, funny indigenous pig


7 local govt and your king hold its root to benin


Egusi is never igbo soup

Who knew igbos before the arrival of the britsh
What makes igbo culture todays is borrowed cultures from different tribe

Try to debate it and i would prove to you all your cultual practice were borrowed from different tribe

Opiletool:
Oga shut up. Those who left Benin to settle in neighbouring yoruba towns were those who left ife to rule benin with oranmiyan, but later left oranmiyan at benin when they found the igodomigodo people unruly and unreasonably aggressive. Hence the reason oranmiyan himself had to leave the place after naming it land of vexation {Ile ibinu, corrupted to bini, then benin}.

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Thanks for spilling trash

Im the face of fact you spill fairytale good

Sammy07:
by the way, is it because I mentioned pounded yam?

Note that Yorubas have been eating yam long before You start your empire...

Lol, sir dont make assumptions back your words with proves
Because am not going to be moved by this statement of yours at all

Sammy07:
I'm only responding to born2breed that says Amala is Yoruba food..
Which is wrong...

Those that liked Amala very well are those that were conquered by Oyo empire...
From Oyo to Ogbomosho to Kwara then Osun...

Ondo, Ekiti, Ijebu, Egba.. Ijesha don't like Amala as much as the states I mentioned above...

You can never go to Ekiti or Ondo and tell us Amala is our best food or we liked it that much, you go receive a sounding slap..


Pounded yam and Eba is our food.


Now back to u, you said Edo and Benin families are found in Ekiti.
Where in ekiti??

The royalties in some part of ekiti are edos no doubt and some commoners who had integrated to yoruba culture can still be found there

Oyo influence some segment of yorubas with thier cultural food

The edos did the thesame to the other part of yorubas
Its funny now that egusi and pounded yam is now a general delicacy in nigeria a food originally
Giving to idol

Sammy07:
Sometimes if you don't know what to say just shut up...

Oyo and Ogbomosho axis like Amala and ewedu...very well

It's not common in Ondo and Ekiti..

Pounded yam/Eba is our food for Ondo..

I don't for once like Amala.

Edo/benin families can still be found in edo and ekiti till date
You are simply stating the obvious

I did mention it in my post

RedboneSmith:
You see this thing you wrote here? "... yam is a foreign food crop to Africa..." Don't repeat it anywhere else. This is what happens when people only acquire half-knowledge but won't keep quiet about it.

The Portuguese only introduced one variety of yam. That is Dioscorea alata or water yam. It is not even 100% certain that it was the Portuguese who first brought it to West Africa, as there is a chance that it could have diffused through other means from Asia to East Africa and then overland from East Africa to West Africa without the agency of the Portuguese. But for the purpose of this argument, let's agree it was introduced by the Portuguese.

What you do not know is that before water yam came, West Africans had their own native species of yam which they domesticated on their own thousands of years ago. The most prominent of these species is Dioscorea cayennensis also known as the yellow yam, and its subspecies Dioscorea rotundata also known as the white yam. The collective name for this species and subspecies is the Guinea yam. These native species are still highly valued in many West African cultures, more so than the Asian species.

Guinea was the name that the early Europeans gave to the entire West African Coast. The yellow and the white yam were called 'Guinea yam' because they came from nowhere but West Africa. Among the Jamaicans it was even called Eboe yam in recognition of the fact that it was already an Igbo staple by the time the Atlantic slave trade opened up and slave ship captains often bought the yams to feed the slaves enroute to the New World.

So next time you think you've stumbled on 'brand new' information, it will do you some good to just research a little deeper and save yourself and the rest of us this sort of misleading information.

Our ancestor never wrote you just imagined the others were originally planted in africa before the arrival of Portuguese
When you vividly yam cultivation entired so many countries in the early 20 century

If you want me to belive this in as much as i want to bring viable source and not speculation

The source i had brought there was a research work and not claims

RedboneSmith:
You see this thing you wrote here? "... yam is a foreign food crop to Africa..." Don't repeat it anywhere else. This is what happens when people only acquire half-knowledge but won't keep quiet about it.

The Portuguese only introduced one variety of yam. That is Dioscorea alata or water yam. It is not even 100% certain that it was the Portuguese who first brought it to West Africa, as there is a chance that it could have diffused through other means from Asia to East Africa and then overland from East Africa to West Africa without the agency of the Portuguese. But for the purpose of this argument, let's agree it was introduced by the Portuguese.

What you do not know is that before water yam came, West Africans had their own native species of yam which they domesticated on their own thousands of years ago. The most prominent of these species is Dioscorea cayennensis also known as the yellow yam, and its subspecies Dioscorea rotundata also known as the white yam. The collective name for this species and subspecies is the Guinea yam. These native species are still highly valued in many West African cultures, more so than the Asian species.

Guinea was the name that the early Europeans gave to the entire West African Coast. The yellow and the white yam were called 'Guinea yam' because they came from nowhere but West Africa. Among the Jamaicans it was even called Eboe yam in recognition of the fact that it was already an Igbo staple by the time the Atlantic slave trade opened up and slave ship captains often bought the yams to feed the slaves enroute to the New World.

So next time you think you've stumbled on 'brand new' information, it will do you some good to just research a little deeper and save yourself and the rest of us this sort of misleading information.

Guinea you make reference to its a Portuguese colony
I doubt if the whole of west africa was once recognized as guniea because the Portuguese had made reference to benin and other places as early as 15century

It happens that the word egusi is sounding yoruba or igbo but it doesn't connate its origin from any of this areas
As a matter of fact yam is a foreign food crop to africa, yam was introduced to africa by the Portuguese who traded it for monetary gains, yam and melon are original asian food crops

The Portuguese traded not only food crops with the locals but also traded livestock, the only people the Portuguese had trade relationships with in nigeria were the benins,
Who happened to bought the yams and melon plant from the Portuguese traders
The delicacy may had gotten to the yorubas through benin cultural influence areas like ondo, ekiti so its safe for some part of yorubas to lay clajm to it than our igbos brothers

Yam is called iyan in edo and pounded yam is ema" , yam festival is celebrated in edo to mark the end of the year and the beginning of a new year after the raining season,
The celebration begins from the oba palace where the yams are pounded to ema and egusi soup are made with native chicken which were originally brought by the Portuguese too, and after the preparation the food is first offered to the gods, the egusi soup is prepared with no oil or ingredients when given to the idols

Egusi and pounded yam is one of edo culture that had lost it roots because of several adoption
Egusi and pounded yam its a delicacy to other tribe but it is religious food to its original edo people


Words like pineapple in edo can also be traced to the whiremen for its origin

Pineapple which is called eden-ebo( whiteman fruit)

Ngozi123:
If it's edo then why do Yorubas, and edo people for that matter, call it by an igbo name? Do you see how you expose yourselves

We dont call it egusi we call it melon soup" here in edo
Or the native name ogi

rexel99:
What calamity? He died like every mortal and that was years after he left as a Governor.

Why didn't the Benin gods or oba decree instant death on him while he was diagracing the Oba up and down?

So it wont be noilticeable


Codedly

The britsh person who disposed the oba to calabar died after few years later, after so many sickness it is written he died mysteriously

Nigga even the gods is wise he knows when to act swiftly of slowly


Queen victoria also died mysteriously after dreaming about benin

Guy dont Bleep with benin monarchy ooh

Toluobaeko11:
Lol! I'm from Iju in Akure north local government of Ondo state. Our traditional food is Pounded yam and Egusi mixed with ishapa soup. If you taste my grandmother Egusi soup with a lap of grasscutter, you'll deny your ancestral background ASAP.
Follow me, make I flex you with IYAN & Egusi(ishapa) soup with a semi-cold palm wine and laps of Oya(grasscutter). Then you'll know that nkan tó n be léyìn èfà, ó ju èje lo (what is after six is more than seven)������

And this is because of edo influence in ondo

I keep telling people that egusi and pounded yam is edo food the only people who share that sane delicacy would be people who edo had influence on the rest borrowed it

geosegun:
Liar, @gregyboy, you have started again, abi. Egusi, ishapa (Veg) and pounded Yam is traditional Ekiti and Ijesha food. How is Benin if Yesterday, that the Yoruba civilised be the owner?...what's wrong with young men of nowadays?

You fool even nigeria know those places you mentioned benin had its territorial control over them

I bet those yoruba people had meant the Portuguese who had brought egusi plant to africa

Stevecovey:
my point exactly. it belongs to several people. And ewedu is oyo food. Every town has their local delicacy. In my village our major local meal is ekuru and eko (what Southsoutherners call agidi), not ewedu, even though all Yorubas eat it. And when u go to ijeshaland u'll see the pounding of yam from morning to evening everywhere. Same way u see amala everywhere in ibadan and oyo town.

You shouldn't talk factually about things u know nothing about.

I have done my research

Have you done yours is the question

You can never remove edo cultral impact from yorubas so you can never remove Portuguese
Influence on nigeria likewise the British impact

The Portuguese had brought egusi plant and yam to africa and traded with the locals one of the people who contact with the Portuguese are the binis and not igbo or yourbas

The plant egusi is in thesame family with watermelon which is also foreign to africa cs

https://www.nairaland.com/5678205/what-original-food-crops-africa

Follow my link and do your research before you spill trash

Ngozi123:
The guy is saying that his favourite meal is pounded yam and egusi soup, which is an igbo dish and you're saying this.

Just be proud of your people without mentioning Igbos, ok?

Shut the Bleep up,


Igbo should never lay any claim to any cultural affiliation to nigeria before the arrival of the britsh the igbos were nothing

The igbos borrowed several cultures to form thiers from edos and yorubas


The egusi you mentioned is an edo delicacy introduced to the yorubas through conquest