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Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 8:14pm On Oct 27, 2021
Kobojunkie:
I didn't start it. I simply can't stand when folks try to use the Bible God in justifying foolishness! undecided
I don't mind when it's you derailing a little bit. wink
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op):
MufasaLion:
I don't like humans that are too weak emotionally especially males. When you are weak emotionally, you tend to make some irrational judgement. People like that see it as being selfless, but I see it as being foolish. I can't trust people like that because they would be the weak link in my circle.

Moreover, I don't really know how to forgive.
You call this weak?

I believe it takes a lot of strength.

But I would feel foolish too. undecided
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 8:01pm On Oct 27, 2021
Klass99:
And why not? Why can't you have someone like that in your circle?

Talk is really cheap on these streets sha grin, some comments had my eyes popping out of their sockets.

Hathor how did your thread become a religious debate? I have been seeing Bible verses all over the place, I didn't even bother to read. How we bring religion into every discussion is beyond me....I need that emoji of face palm smacking the head.
I don't know. undecided
I was hoping it would stop pages ago but I didn't want to spoil the fun for Koboj. smiley
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 8:06pm On Oct 26, 2021
Reptyle:
Yes I can. Once again, it is not the gravity of the offence but the mindset towards offence.

One good head can keep a marriage.
Then you have an extraordinary mindset. cheesy
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 5:37pm On Oct 26, 2021
Reptyle:
Yes I can...but it is not easy. Takes some work to be able to do that.

Like I said, once you understand that the person you are marrying is not 100%, it becomes a bit easier to let go and forgive when they offend you.
Are you saying that you can forgive all of the following?

- cheating
- cheating with your best friend
- cheating with your brother
- cheating repeatedly
- insulting your mom
- stealing from you
- paternity fraud
- revealing your secrets
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 11:43am On Oct 26, 2021
bepositive11:
I personally believe that genuine love is unconditional. And when we love someone, we want to nurture them to become better versions of themselves. We want to watch them grow and thrive. But there's a catch. Some people want to grow but some people want to remain the same

This is why I believe that marriage involves unconditional love and conditional commitment. One of the conditions for commitment being that they are willing to grow into better versions of themselves

Love can also be either healthy or toxic. Healthy love is the one that supports growth and toxic love is the one that hinders personal growth. You can see toxic love in abusive relationships

So, when talking about love, it's also important to distinguish between the healthy one and the toxic one too.
You started with nurturing the other to bring the best out of them but my thread started on the premise that marriage is about bringing the best in ourselves not in our spouse.
Politics › Re: Ogbonnaya Onu: Nigeria To Produce Drones In Near Future by Hathor5(f): 10:42am On Oct 26, 2021
MufasaLion:
These leaders are so heartless, clueless and self centered. I don't even see most of them as learned even though they might have attended tertiary institutions.

It seems we just hate STEM in this part of the planet.
The saddest part is that they know that releasing this kind of news will deceive many people into thinking that they have made great progress.
Politics › Re: Ogbonnaya Onu: Nigeria To Produce Drones In Near Future by Hathor5(f): 10:02am On Oct 26, 2021
MufasaLion:
Near future? When other countries are planning on colonizing Mars.
grin
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 6:36am On Oct 26, 2021
theForth:
I once believed in unconditional love, but I soon realized my folly.

I read a thread some while ago, I can't really remember the title but the whole theme was centered on a man who lost his job for a few months and had to walk on "egg shells" in his own home in order not to upset his wife who has been footing the bill for a few months.

The whole thread was comical, in fact the husband was grateful to his wife for being more tolerant, and although she had outbursts here and there but it wasn't "something he couldn't swallow" according to him. The thread was really eye opening as most comments from men and women alike insinuated that the op married an understanding wife with a little outburst about his loss of job.

People get frustrated when their needs aren't met and is anyone morally upright to judge them?

The only problem I have is people deciding what needs are good or evil, a woman frustrated by her husbands loss of job is good but a man frustrated about his wife's inability to bear kids is evil.
Frustration that a man lost his job is not due to a lack of love but the result of worries such as how will we pay the rent, school fees etc.
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 6:34am On Oct 26, 2021
Double0h7:
You were watching "You" on Netflix grin
smiley
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 9:06pm On Oct 25, 2021
BRATISLAVA:
Generally, from responses, we can say people tend not to love unconditionally. There's always something in it for everyone, and even if one does or doesn't (love unconditionally), their spouse may or may not.

It's hard to tell the intent of peoples hearts. I think the best we can do is be transparent on our parts and enjoy what we have.
True.
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 9:05pm On Oct 25, 2021
Exjoker:
Why would someone want to do his best to please another person if he doesn't have a feeling of love for that personhuh Until you understand what love really is then you will keep looking down on it like it just feeling in our heart.
Having people's interests in our heart is love itself...
I agree.

And we are not expecting anything in return then it is love unconditionally...
How many people do you know who don't expect anything in return?
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 8:59pm On Oct 25, 2021
BRATISLAVA:
This question has no answer!

grin

Ideally, yes. Reality? Yes and no.
I think it does but we all understand and answer it differently. smiley
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 8:58pm On Oct 25, 2021
bukatyne:
Christianity, Islam, Buddism, Ifa worshippers etc. already have a set of principles expected from their followers.

Using Christianity as an example, adultery is a sin (sex outside marriage) so ideally, a Christian husband or wife shouldn't commit adultery. Same with lying, stealing, abuse of all forms, jealousy, laziness etc etc etc.

Therefore, if you are marrying someone of a particular sect, there are already expectations which I assume you call conditions.

@unconditional love: I don't think there can be unconditional love else we would 'fall in love' with anyone. I am more of strategically selecting your mate and giving them your all thereafter.
Same thought has crossed my mind too.
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 8:25pm On Oct 25, 2021
Xano:
My advice: love is the most important about marriage.
Without live, there is no stable companionship.

Unconditional love among the couples is most important.
Are you sure you can love your spouse unconditionally?
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 7:27pm On Oct 25, 2021
bezimo:
What does Jesus say about adultery in marriage? Go and find out first before asking me stupid question?
Whatever Jesus says. If you can't tolerate or forgive adultery then your love is not unconditional. Simples.
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 7:26pm On Oct 25, 2021
Spectaclesawe25:
Know this and know peace.
Otherwise heartbreak is sure in marriage.
For men, you can't get loyalty and honour from your wife if you don't secure her financially, securing her financially is only a function of her own expectation and need at any time T, as a woman you can't get to feel secure if you don't trust and believe in your man, and also help him to win in his little battles. These qualities from both parties aren't even at 50% in most homes. Forget love. True commitment, trust and believe is what grows a home, love comes after.
I understand.
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 7:25pm On Oct 25, 2021
Reptyle:
Showing up the best you can is an ingredient of unconditional love. It's basically saying to you that marriage isn't always going to be peaches and roses. There will be thorns as well. So make plans for those sort of times too.
Can you forgive all kinds of "thorns" and still love your spouse?
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 6:18pm On Oct 25, 2021
bukatyne:
According to the counselor, what is the difference between unconditional love and showing up the best you can?
I can't ask her. She hasn't explained.

For me the difference is clear. I can show up the best I can but I can still formulate conditions under which I will do that, e.g. faithfulness.
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 6:16pm On Oct 25, 2021
reddingtonblack:
marriage entails , both parties identifying and playing their roles to the best of their capacity. in marriage you must understand you must alway creat room for the other party.
when it come family i.e we must do what will cover majority interest, do what favours you as long as it does not jeopardize other member interest.
How do you do it?
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 6:15pm On Oct 25, 2021
bukatyne:
If both parties love each other 'unconditionally', wouldn't they naturally work to bring out their best for the other party?
I guess so but people also work to bring out their best if they love conditionally because they know that love is conditional.

Why did you put unconditionally in '...' ?
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 6:12pm On Oct 25, 2021
bezimo:
The word of God is the standard not some nonsense series or episode ..husband love your wife as Christ love the church.
Which is an unconditional and sacrificial love
So you can also love your wife when she cheats? Or is faithfulness a condition?
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 6:11pm On Oct 25, 2021
reddingtonblack:
If you don't believe unconditional love exist then you might as well believe every partner in marriage are perfect, FIY imperfection begat unconditional love.
even tho the rate of divorce is rising like dollar, those still in marriage are definitely tolerating one another, that is an exhibition of unconditional.
you marry a naija slim gurl after two years in marriage she turns to baby whale, blame childbirth n most men just tolerate it that is unconditional.
Tolerance is needed when we don't like something. It has nothing to do with love.
Family › Re: I'm Getting Married But I'm Not Happy by Hathor5(f): 8:47am On Oct 25, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Really? Na you go be the person wey she go turn around to blame for ending her 'dream' love affair with a man who is the love of her life? grin
grin
Family › Re: I'm Getting Married But I'm Not Happy by Hathor5(f): 10:03pm On Oct 24, 2021
You need someone to help you call it off before it gets worse. Is there anyone you can ask for help?
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 9:43pm On Oct 24, 2021
Kobojunkie:
The idea or expectation of being at your best 24/7 spells "S-T-R-E-S-S". That shouldn't a part of what it means to be in a marriage and a family. lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Interesting point.

But what does it mean to be in a marriage and a family then?
Family › Re: What Is It Like To Grow Old And Never Be Married? by Hathor5(f): 9:41pm On Oct 24, 2021
MummyD2020:
Correct! I am married but the way people carry this thing like a trophy amazes me. Life doesn't end there. There are single ladies that are more happier than the married ones. There are many challenges and responsibilities in this institution that you wonder why u even delved into it. I guess its for personal aggrandizement and societal pressures
I will never understand what their problem and obsession with single ladies or people who decide not to have kids is. And like you rightly said, marriage is not a guarantee that your life will be a bed of roses.
Family › Re: What Is It Like To Grow Old And Never Be Married? by Hathor5(f): 7:51pm On Oct 24, 2021
nurain150:
Oh so you need a man, I thought you don't want to get married.
You are a very bitter soul. I feel sorry for you.
Family › Re: Marriage Is Not About Unconditional Love by Hathor5(op): 7:43pm On Oct 24, 2021
Kobojunkie:
I agree.... Humans are generally incapable of unconditional love. undecided

Marriage is indeed a contract, an agreement between couples...not necessarily to show up the best they can since that depends on the terms and conditions agreed upon by the couple in the marriage. undecided
I agree but this is the kind of advice the couple in the series was given to repair their marriage, to give their best. And at the same time this is how the counselor defined the purpose of marriage, to bring out the best in people.
Family › Re: What Is It Like To Grow Old And Never Be Married? by Hathor5(f): 7:41pm On Oct 24, 2021
nurain150:
I see you coming here again in the next few years to complain.

Almighty willing.

I would remind you then.
Back to sender. wink
Family › Re: What Is It Like To Grow Old And Never Be Married? by Hathor5(f): 3:55pm On Oct 24, 2021
nurain150:
Lol. I hope you don't get married and also no kids till you grow old.

If you don't wish for that, don't be an hypocrite .
None of your business.
Family › Re: What Is It Like To Grow Old And Never Be Married? by Hathor5(f): 10:27am On Oct 24, 2021
kkins25:
grin grin grin grin
with the army of prayer warriors going for night vigils in search of husbands? if Doctors advised her to remain single, then i guess its probably because her eggs are loosing viability and fast. Unfortunate, that some get lost in the career pursuit. Capitalism is yhe wombs devil.
Your point is?

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