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mitchyy:
The wrong the friend did is giving an EBF baby water. Not just any water, satchet water abi pure water. It just didnt feel right sis.

I"m sure she isnt experienced with babies else she could have checked to see if there was anything else making the baby cry. Probably a wet diaper, heat or so on.

That's why i think its best to watch who you give your baby to

EBF baby or not. It's absolutely wrong to leave your baby in a "shop in a market" with a friend to go shopping without making adequate arrangements on what the baby should eat should he or she start crying or leaving clear instructions on what should have been done. The baby is 100% the mother's responsibility.

That's one of the perils of EBF. you have to be with your baby every single time especially when outdoors. If a mum can't stick to the rules of EBF, then why go down that route and leave the poor baby to cry in hunger.

Do not forget that this friend wasn't indoors at home/in a familiar environment. She was in your "mum's shop" and she's probably inexperienced and this is where your mum should have come in (if she was allowed to do so). She should have either carried the baby and comforted or tell the lady where to get bottled water. I'm guessing your mum decided not to do so since the lady and the baby are total strangers and these days where one can't trust anybody, I won't advice my mum or any mum to touch, hold or comfort a stranger's baby.

I hope your mum seriously tongue lashed the baby's mother though.

Liftedhands:
This just reminded me of my own experience. I was at a wedding and a relative offered to hold my baby when I got up to dance(good gesture I know) a little while (not even up to 10min) I looked their way and saw her feeding my barely 4month moin moin with her bottle water in his mouth as well!(even with his own water right beside her in his bag)The speed I rushed her and took my son ehn? She was even like is it poison? Isn't not the same moin moin am eating?( Putting some in her mouth) I was so mad! She's elderly else what I would have said to her ehn?

1. Ekene wasn't ready for such solid good yet! He was on bm and formula.

2. She just took away the experience of feeding my son his FIRST solid food from me and to be honest it still hurts.


That lady was so not right at all! Even if she was to give the 2month old water it shouldn't be sachet water at all which purity is not guaranteed! That was so insensitive.


Zimunachimdi sorry dear I didn't ignore you I saw that helovesme has attended to your questions so I didn't see the need to re echo her again.

Hahahahahaahaha. I can imagine how angry and irritated you were.

Reminds me of a fellow that wanted to give my son Coca Cola (he was drinking it and carrying my son who was obviously interested in the bottle and made attempts to touch it). You need to have heard the way I screamed HELL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

I do not understand the craze/rush in exposing a child to certain adult food. These babies have a lifetime ahead to feed on these meals so what's the rush?

my most recent visit to Lagos, even before my arrival, I had made it clear to inlaws, family, etc that my baby doesn't feed on certain solids, so on arrival none of them had the guts or audacity to preach to me on what to feed my son or even offer him any solids.

Your own case is different and the lady deserved a slap since you were nearby and Ekene wasn't crying. She probably felt you are a posh mum and your over poshness is too much and wanted to cut you to size

However in mitchyy's scenario, the mum left the baby to "go and shop" and the baby began crying seriously. The friend I'm sure must be a single and totally inexperienced in handling babies.

E get some kind cry wey pikin go give that you will be confused and you won't know what to do. Thank goodness she didn't make attempt to breastfeed the baby herself.

mitchyy:
Please mamas, let's be careful who we hand our babies to.
A lady left her 2months old baby with a friend at my mum's shop. She went into the market to buy some stuff. After she left, her baby started crying uncontrollably and the baby is on EBF(exclusive breast feeding).
The friend couldn't endure the baby's cries anymore and guess what she did?

She bought satchet water, opened it and started giving the 2months old baby.

My mum tried to intervene but the friend said she is tired of the cries and the water wont kill the baby.
I dont think the lady values her friend's baby at all. It was so surprising

I do not think the friend has done anything wrong here.

Why would a responsible mother leave her EBF fed baby without making arrangements on what the baby will drink whilst she is away? No formula, no expressed milk, no water. Did she leave instructions on what the baby should be given just incase the baby became hungry/cranky? In fact, she should be punished for child abandonment.

Babies do not have an alarm clock to indicate when they are hungry or thirsty. Babies can get hungry at anytime.

The friend had no choice but to do what she did as the baby was clearly hungry or thirsty. Better to give her water than to leave her crying herself into a fit or till she chokes on her tears.

The only thing she should have done differently was maybe give her nestle water rather than sachet water.

zimunachimdi:
so apart from mummy helovesme,no other mama deemed it fit to answer my questions even those i 'cced'. it is well sha.

mummy helovesme thanks dearie for the response,i will download your answer to question 4 and know where i am not getting it right. my lo hardly sleeps upto 3hrs in a stretch. i feed on demand too,and where we stay is quiet calm. i would love to switch the fan on for him but i think it is quite early.
thanks once again.

How many hours sleep does he get in total within a 24 hour period?

You know what you should do for the next one week?

Get a pen and paper and write down the time he falls asleep and the time he wakes up. You will be amazed to find out the total number of hours he sleeps in a day.

It will also help you to know your baby's sleeping pattern and where he feels most comfortable to have a nap. Some babies love to sleep after a bath. Some are most alert after a bath. Some prefer to sleep between noon and 2pm, etc. Some prefer to nap on a sleeping mat/blanket as this guarantees a good long nap. Others prefer cot.

For example, currently my son will not sleep for up to one hour in a cot during the day. He prefers the bed or cuddle cushion and on that he can sleep a good 2-4 hours.

ellakj:
Good morning, Pls I'm a kinda new mum, my baby is 9 months old, she had catarh and cold 3 weeks ago, and it was treated using vit c, antibiotics and piriton, I also followed up with silver bird, she got fine, now I noticed on Saturday that she was sneezing to much so I bought vit c, but it kept getting worst, she is having noisey breathing, catarh, and she is sneezing to much, I dnt expose her , I hardly on the sc/fan cos the Wether has been ok, Pls I dnt want to impose medication on her Wat can I do to help her, I can feel that she struggles to breath, Pls HELP HELP

Her nose is very congested.

Get a saline nasal spray with a nozzle (picture attached). Once you use it in both nostrils, use an aspirator or your mouth and suck out all the mucus.

ambient:
Plz help ......i just notice dat my baby can sit but he is just 10 weeks and his head still wobbles ( he doesnt sit for long).i am worried about his spinal cord,i think it started when my helper started keeping him upright whenever she is watching movies.
Plz should i encourage it or ensure they carry him as a baby.
He weighs 7.5.
Help pls!!!!!

It's absolutely normal for his head to wobble at 10 weeks as he is yet to establish full head/neck control which doesn't happen till the baby is about 3-4months.

It's very good she's encouraging him to sit as this helps his back muscles, neck, etc and also gives him the confidence. Just make sure that he is well supervised, comfortable and propped with pillows. He should NEVER be left unsupervised while "sitting" as he can easily tilt forward and fall.

AlphaHandMaiden:
He he he he.

In the early days, i had a very conspicious gorodom of hand sanitiser in the parlour. The thing be like lightbhouse beacon. So i didnt need to say anything. You sef as you see am you go use your church mind jejely go the collect your dosage. But after about 8 weeks? Most people just washed their hands and that was fine.


Sprinkle ke? Na holy water? Hian!!! Who's got time for that ? I use it to spray her teethers and toys that i cant really wash every now and then. I also take a bit when we are out doors as she keeps throwing her teethers on the floor.

Gorodom. Hahaha. I never did that hand sanitiser thing. My mum would have teased me to shreds. as she constantly teased me about acting like an overly health conscious paranoid new mum as I did some few 'crazy' things before and after I had my baby.

For example, whilst visiting her, I once sterilised (in the steam steriliser) the ice cube container I wanted to use to preserve my son's meals when he started solids and the heat ended up shrinking/destroying the flimsy plastic the cover was made of .

I never thought about using the sterilisers for tethers and co. Thanks for the tip and will use it for the next baby. I always went around with about 4 teething rings and if one is dropped, I pop it in bag and replace with another which I must admit can be a hassle.

AlphaHandMaiden:
Interesting... i guess the brand matters as with mine i have even forgotten the solution in the container for about 3 days before washing and not had any slipperyness. The smell at first was a bit strong for me as you get a kinda chlorinated (faint swimming pool ) smell.

I also use the vital baby aquaint sanitiser water on the go and around the house and that has the same smell.

I guess my nose has just gotten chlorine blind...

I doubt if I can get used to the smell. It kinda lingers on for long and although it's claimed the smell and sterilising tabs/liquids do not harm babies, I refuse to believe jare. The smell just comes off as acid to me.

Really @ bolded? So you sprinkle sanitiser water around your house? And here I was thinking I'm going rather overboard by washing all my baby's clothes with professional antibacterial detergent.

Please do not tell me you are one of those mums that passes hand sanitisers to visitors or anyone before the touch or carry their babies

zimunachimdi:
good evening sabi mamas,pls i have few questions to ask.

1.what is the effect of a nursing mother malaria to the child?
2.what malaria med is best for a nursing mother?
3.is there any effect of the med to the child?

4. i think i have an active baby who plays more than he sleeps
4b.what is the minimum hours sleep for a baby of 2months?.

1. Please see a doctor to prescribe the right drug to treat your malaria.

Make sure you ask him (very important) if the drug is safe to use whilst breastfeeding.

I ALWAYS ask this question before I use any drug and on a few occasions, my doctor whipped out a medical handbook to double check to see if the drug is absorbed into breast milk and what effect it might have on a baby. Better to be safe than sorry.

2. Same answer as question 1

3. Same answer as question 1

4. If your baby is 2 months old, it's too early to conclude he's "active". At this age, their eye sight is improving, same with their hearing so they are very conscious of their environment. Besides a 2 months baby doesn't "play". All he does is lie on his back and look around or "wave" his hands and legs.

How's the environment where he spends most of his day? Noisy? Quiet? Do you feed on demand? How's his feeding? A well fed baby will sleep well after each feed and during the day, in a quiet environment, this can be up to 4 hours.

What about the cot or bed or bouncer you place him on? Are you sure it's comfortable for him? Do you over warp him? Is the room airy? If he's too warm or uncomfortable, he will be cranky, restless and he won't sleep much.

4b. At 2 months, a baby should be getting a decent amount of sleep. I remember my son could sleep from say 8am after having his bath and fed full till about 12noon/1pm.

Please prevent yourself and baby from
Malaria. Yes, it's very possible if you are proactive.

mitchyy:
Its what i was told at the hospital o. I even asked some ladies who have done a CS and they said yes, i'm supposed to clean with cotton wool and spirit.

I tire. And using spirit on it hurts like crazy. I don tire sef

Pele dear.

It's wrong to use spirit on any stitch - CS or not. Spirit is harsh and does not in anyway aid recovery.

Go to any hospital and have it checked out.

In addition take lots of fruits or vitamin C supplements (you can get 1000mg one a day tablets but make sure you lead the label/packaging to confirm if it's safe to use whilst breastfeeding).

Vitamin C really helps with healing.

Liftedhands:
Wow didn't even see that part! Mitchyy please discontinue the spirit asap! It's usually cotton wool soaked in diluted savlon or dettol! Spirit is too harsh to use on a wound. Thanks helovesme for pointing this out.

When I saw the spirit part I almost screamed. I can just imagine the pain she's been going through applying it on the incision.

AlphaHandMaiden:
Really?

I have never had that problem. What brand did you use?

Ijelex see below for initial reviews done on sterilisers

Can't remember the brand to be honest but it was what I experienced with my niece. It put me off sterilising solutions/tablets and I decided that for me, it's a no-no.

Not sure if "slimy" is the right word. "Soapy" or "slippery" maybe.

And then the smell.

https://www.poole.nhs.uk/pdf/Caring_for_your_wound_after_Caesarean_section[1].pdf

Cc. mitchyy

mitchyy:
Imagine! I'm having a wound breakdown again. The middle of my incision has opened up and the sore is red.

Please, experienced mamas and mamas that have undergone a CS, what do you think could be the cause of this?
I clean it regularly with cotton wool and spirit, i dont do anything strenuous, and i took all my meds.

I'm far away from my hospital, else i would have gone der asap.

You are not supposed to clean with the site with spirit oh.

Just shower and pat the area dry gently.

enkaydewdrop:
One night in the hospital...
Sex in one week...
Did you give birth abroad?

Biko, if you gave birth in naija, please tell us the name of the hospital oh... Me I like this kain one...
I'm 7weeks post partum and still feel some pain in my abdomen and incision site...

Didn't you feel any pain while you were "at it?"

I didn't feel any pain. Guess that's because of the sex style we adopted.

It's normal to feel some degree of pain and tenderness 7 weeks post Partum. Don't forget that CS is a major surgery (even though doctors down play it ) and they've cut through layers of tissue, fat and muscle and then stiched it all back.

Ijelex:
Good day mama's please can someone give be a brand of bottle sterilizer that is good and pocket friendly. Which is advisable please the cold water sterilizer or electric. Thanks in anticipation Please don't read and pass.

Congrats to itssettled3 and all the newbies you will will carry to term in Jesus name. Amen.

Liftedhands that your cake got me lol

Personally, I prefer electric. In 5-6 minutes, everything is sterilised.

I do not like the way sterilising tablets/liquid smell. I also do not like the way they leave bottles, et al "slimy".

naijababe:
My people sha! An innocent child gets the wrong surname just over £1000? Do these people think about the potential ramifications of actions like this?

Not necessarily.

The baby can bear any name the mum chooses to put on the birth certificate. It can be her maiden name, her marital name, ancestral name . . . Anything.

Besides, you are allowed up to a year ( I think) or more to amend the birth certificate and change the baby's name if you wish.

I won't be surprised if she used the real dad's surname and that was what arose suspicions from the council.

alhajisocrates:
Name of the formular. Abi you want make others fall victim b4 u tell us.

There's nothing wrong with the formula she bought. Her baby is lactose intolerant (Google it). It means the baby cannot take any type of cow milk (even when he's much older and also as an adult because he's allergic to it).

There are specially made lactose free formula that cater for such babies.

kswag13:
imagine in the future the child becomes academically dumb......... they will punish the child for their own useless upbringing...... mtcheeew. Type of parents that don't deserve children........... This person deserve to beg maybe like 20 years for the baby maybe then she'll know she's supposed to breastfeed .........she just day vex me......

Looking at your write up (your use of English), I guess you were fed akamu at birth as its obvious you are academically dull.

Jamean:
I still insist that exclusive breastfeeding doesn't change anything. What about babies who didn't see their mum, are they worse off?

Exactly. I have never and I will never be a part of the exclusive breast feeding band wagon. All this EBF thing is to clamp down on companies that were/are making billions in revenue from the sale of formula. Some countries even go a step further to regulate the prices of these milk and stop people from buying more than 2 packs of formula at once.

For me, it's combination feeding (breast milk + formula) all the way.

Funny thing is that people screaming WHO recommends EBF for 6 months will turn up their noses when you tell them the same WHO recommends breastfeeding for two years.

If EBF is the magic mix as they claim, then why are kids being immunised? EBF should stop babies from getting measles, etc and all form of immunisation should have been stopped.

janellemonae:
You are so ignorant. You really should shut ur mouth on topics u know nothing about.

Not all women are able to breast feed from birth. In case u also dont know, not all women are able to concieve or carry a child to term. And it is due to no fault of theirs.

The dude is a compound f00l and he's best ignored.

It's obvious he's not even married not to talk of being a father.

enkaydewdrop:


Isalai oh...

Talk true mama...

nope, i am not kidding.

different doctors, different stitches i guess.

the stitch was covered with a waterproof material so i had my bath the very next day i got back from the hospital - (i spent one night in hospital). waterproof material and stitch was removed by the nurse during her home visit to check on me and baby by day day 3.

i marvel when i read here about some moms being told not to have their bath for weeks/months after CS.

mitchyy:
And that is how someone told me yesterday that its advisable to wait for 6 months after a CS before kpekusing.

Mamas, pls is there any truth in this? A whole 6 months. Haba!

Lmaoooo.

I resumed "bumping and grinding" a week after my CS.

zaynie:
Saphireadoo, I don't even know what to say to you.
Only that you really are strong.
Maybe you should find a specialist, if you can carry the baby to like 28 weeks, then straight to incubator.
Since it happened 4 years ago, you should be able to try again.
The miscarriage is it related to the state of your uterus.
I hope the hospital paid for this gross negligence?

Just an afterthought, we need to start suing these Doctors for toying with our lives and those of our kids. Maybe when their license gets invoked, their hospitals shut down, their names dragged in the mud, they will learn to take time with us!
How can you induce a woman and go home?
This is the second time I am hearing this, I know someone whose uterus ruptured and the baby and the contents of uterus actually poured out into her, she said the baby was pulled from under her chest. Almost 12 years later, she is still battling with so many health issues.
When women start winning 10-100million Naira court cases, they will sit up and do their job well. and only then will maternal-child loss really reduce.

my dear, you are right. people need to start naming and shaming these hospitals and stop the culture of 'leave them to God'.

in addition to this, mothers also need to seriously educate themselves on Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS), the tell-tale early signs of a sick baby, when to self medicate, when not to, when to switch hospitals and so on.

MsPat:
Sorry to break sad news but my Dede decided he didn't like Nigeria any more, so he want back to USH (United States of Heaven)! Aderinmola Omokehinde Akanni has gone back to God!

Im not too sad becos he left Lala to take care of Mummy. Please pray for me!

so sorry for your loss.

may God comfort you and your family in Jesus name. Amen.

^^^Aunty Chaircover saying it as it is and making a lot of sense on nairaland since 2006

Sighs!

Now the "self employed", "start a business", "I started my business with 5 naira and now I make 5 million naira in a week", "create a job, don't wait for one" crew no go let us hear word

You should state your brother's first name or the name he was addressed by Chioma?

Why not go to her village and speak to the village head? He might be able to help you.

Check on Facebook for "village associations". There might be a profile for people from the girl's village and they might be able to help.

Edit: I made some searches on Facebook. Contact all these groups and stats your story. Someone might know her/remember she came back to the village from Lagos unmarried and with a son.

babythug:
To God be the glory!

My little one arrived last night about 2am ish or so......


He's so cute!


The labour pain...... hmmmmm nor be here!


Will be back to share the story soon


August mamas dropping it like it hawt#

Congrats Hun!

God bless you and your baby. Amen.

Tojued:
Aren't you lucky! I'm awake right now battling fever. Have already given three doses of pcm since afternoon, four hours interval. So now I'm down to water and towel.

By the way I've bought two diff. bottles of pcm, and they both said 0.4. Pharmacist also instructed 0.4. 2.5 might be effective as per 'kill the pain totally' but I still believe it's overdose except for calpol.

fever in a child of any age should not be taken lightly.

this is the reason why doctors/nurses that know that their onions will recommend paracetamol before and after immunisation. at my end, no nurse will administer immunisation at 6weeks without confirmation from the mum that the baby has been given paracetamol. in a case where the mum forgot to do so (which was what happened in my case), the nurse will administer paracetamol herself.

this is because once the fever creeps in, it can be hard to bring it down and what you have is a stressed/panicky mum and a cranky baby. doctors/nurses that recommend 2.5ml of paracetamol have their reasons. its better to use 2.5ml to prevent/stop the fever than use a lower dose and then have to use a stronger drug like neurofen to bring down the fever. I am the type that asks my doctors/nurses questions and this was the plausible explaination i was given to justify the use of paracetamol before and after. they also confirmed that it does not in anyway inhibit the efficiency of the immunisation. the main thing that affects the efficiency of any immunisation jab is how it was stored before use. such injections must be stored at certain temperature. how many hospitals in nigeria actually adhere to this?

in addition to this, i always ask to be shown the immunisation bottle/injection - i check the name and the expiry date to be sure my baby is being given the right thing. although some nurses are proactive and will show you all the labels on the bottle without you asking.

that said, have you checked your baby's temperature using a thermometer? if its still high, take your baby to the hospital.

p.s. Calpol is a brand name of paracetamol just as you have Emzor paracetamol and the likes.

IryNky:
@zaynie tanks d palm oil n sugar was really gud. D cough has subsided. We are at d teething level now.

Pls my baby is not eating well. She won't take milk don't kno wat to do. I give her abidec to help her appetite but no improvement. She is slim n I wish she will eat well to grow fat. @3month she weighed 5kg. I observed she drank d palm oil n sugar paste I gave I was thinking if I shud add sugar to sweeten her food so she will eat or is dere any thing I can do. Pls @4month can I give her fruits (water melon) pls reply tanks

To all sabi mamas

please DO NOT add sugar to her meals.

what type of milk is she rejecting? formula or breast milk or both?

how long have you noticed her drop in appetite?

enkaydewdrop:
Ah!
Are you serious?
And the nurse told me 2.5ml oh...
I didn't use capol, it was pcm...

Thanks a lot mama...
I'm grateful...

Relax. The nurse is right.

It's 2.5ml of paracetamol. I was told to give my son the same dose before and after his immunisation.