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Re: Would You Vote For An Openly Gay, Atheist Or Idol Worshipping Politician?

It depends. Who are the other candidates?
cos I'll take a gay, atheist or idol head whose[b] record[/b] has shown a genuine care and concern for his/her people over a 'christian' whose record show zero accomplishments while they loot and pad their pockets.

bawomolo:
Derrick rose is day to day. Captain Kirk is more than capable of his own.

that one na nuthin now    its not like ya'll were going to the playoffs anyways 

na wa o, they were lucky to beat a bynum-less laker team and they talking about rings . Poppovich is one of the better coaches in the league, all they need is ginobili and they have a bench matched only by the lakers.

I like how people continue to delude themselves that small boy bynum woulda made a championship changing difference last finals  carry on, whatever makes you feel good brotha 

Pastor AIO:
Do you want to drive Huxley away?  If he got intelligent responses he will flee.  I'm still awaiting his feedback on so many threads that he's started.  some many months ago which he actually even promised to get back to me on but thank God I didn't hold my breath, or I'd be dead by now. 

The one that especially pains me is the Thread about Paul Kurtz whom he was worshipping as a Great humanist.  I actually spent up to 2 hours listening to the link and responding point by point.  It makes me feel like a total idiot that I bothered.  However my attitude to Huxley is that the issues that he raises will actually help to strengthen Faith if you considered them properly.  They will help to get rid of some unsound notions that we all harbour from time to time.  Kind of like a trial by fire, once the gold has been through it it will come out purer. 

I am actually respectful of Healthy skepticism and if someone tells me that they are atheists due to some argument or the other, I am happy to consider the arguments with them.  However Huxley's position is different.  His starting point is a bias.  The arguments against religion then come after the bias has been established.  So he will use any argument he feels that will help his case and if the argument fails or is disproved he will quickly drop it and run to another one.  The funny thing though is that a few months later he will return to that discredited argument probably in the hope that others have forgotten that it doesn't hold water. 

After a while of him running away from his own arguments I got to starting off by asking him if he was endorsing what was said on the link or not.  Cautiously he was say that he is just presenting it as an interesting viewpoint and that he doesn't necessarily endorse it.  I wonder in fact if he has ever had an original opinion of his own voiced on this forum.  Or maybe not in his life sef.

I agree with noetic that it is important to engage with everything that he says because this is a public forum.  The people who are actually contributing to this forum are not the tip of the iceberg of the people who are reading it everyday.  Possibly those can be numbered in the hundreds of thousands everyday.  It is important to be aware of that when we are making posts.  You are not just addressing the person that you are responding to.  It seems that sometimes some of us argue just for the sake of winning that particular argument not realising that it is just a small battle in a greater war plan.  If for the sake of winning a debate you resort to all sorts of illogicalities it will have far flung repercussions because there are intelligent people reading these posts everyday who are not getting involved but they are forming opinions from what is being said.  Someone has even doubted whether he can possibly go back to 9ja at all after witnessing how easily a discussion can degenerate into mudslinging and name calling.   Not to mention the excessive use of ad hominems and other stupid arguing devices.  He said it reminded him of being back in primary school in the playground where kids will be yabbing each other.  The only difference is that these are grown ups and worse still the entire country is like this.

AIO, I always wondered why you bothered with his posts. ^^ explains it.

  Don't be suprised he never returns back to threads when solid answers are given to him . . . that was my experience when he first came on NL, when I saw that he wouldn't stick around long enough to finish the thread and respond, it reeked of intellectual dishonesty and emotional bias and I stopped patronizing his threads. Some of the other atheists around open threads and are at least honest and follow thru. Which is more than I can say for therationa tpaine huxley

  Like you said healthy skepticism is good, but when the skeptic is obsessed and biased from the get-go, any "discussion" seems to me like an exercise in futility. You make a very good point that others reading may benefit from engaging him . . . that's why I thank God for you and your patience to do just that 

mazaje:
Same old meaningless rants form the stupid and deluded foot soldiers of an imaginary deity called yahweh, Bleep yahweh tell him to strike all the non believers dead if he can. . . . nonsenese.

Mazaje, you are better than this

bawomolo:
Derrick rose is out with an hand injury.  the enemies of progress have struck 

Out for how long?

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=148652.msg3639127#msg3639127 date=1237949194]Y'all did not miss Rose Kirk Hinrich did pretty well albeit against a Pistons missing Hamilton,Wallace,McDyess and A.I[/quote]Just when they were starting to garner some momentum too. The injury bug has been working overtime this year. I hope teams have their major players come playoffs, else it'd be a darn shame to see half-legged teams trying to do battle.

And what's with Arenas dude should get on the court already if i signed a 111 million $$ contract for 6 years i would play on crutches or a wheelchair if i hard to damnit!!

If the 15-56 wizards were your team you would be reluctant to return too      but bottomline is he did sign that contract.

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=148652.msg3638717#msg3638717 date=1237939741]Its the bitter truth that dude is a very whack ball player! He also needs to get rid of that head band i mean real ball players like Lebron,Jason Terry,Carmelo Anthony and co. are wearing head bands and Erick Dampier is wearing head bands with them[/quote]lol I will throw you an e-party the day Erika leaves the mavs

Huh this is the NBA Finals here not All-Star weekend mad dunks and cross-court passes ke? The Spurs are not a championship team because of that style of play

True. And if I had to pick fancy over championships . . . the answer is easy, gimme the rings!

I have not written the Suns off yet ooh! If we finish 8th we might as well not bother to go for the playoffs they still whooped our ass without Bynum so i don't know how we would fare when he gets back as for Shaq i think he is trying to catch Abdul-Jabbar and M.J which is very unlikely but he is fifth all time now i think thats what's driving him because i am sure in his heart of hearts he knows he can't win anymore rings

I dunno. We all assumed him done after last season only for him to drop this season on us. But if he stays with the current roster of suns, there is zero chances of any championships.

manmustwac:
Jesoul you do not have to be religious to help the needy. A lot of people help raise money for charity not because the bible say this or the bible says that but because they genuinely want to help them.

I agree 100% with the above.

   And I will also add that a lot of people help raise money for charity not because the bible say this or the bible says that but because the love of God inside them drives them to express that love by helping others. I know that's what drives me.

Unlike that very religious country called Nigeria where a pastor will buy $24:8 million on a plane while his congregation are struggling. And as far as am concerned religion is the main problem with Nigeria.

I share your disdain for those pastors, I wished they could all be wiped off the planet for good. Where I part ways with you is when you blanketize the problems in Nigeria as the fault of religion. Nigeria's problems are much more deeper and complex than just false prophets and blind followers.

The masses should forget about all these big prayer conventions at Easter time, gather together and march to Aso Rock cause a riot and demand change. I believe that would they would see a better result than if they just decided to pray.

If I were in Nigeria I would be first in line for this demonstration  .

  I think I once said to you that the bible does not advocate prayer divorced from action - actually just the opposite! I pray to God to give me a good life and good health but I also go out and work hard and take care of my body. That attitude and approach is what the bible teaches . . . not the millions of zombies who stay home and in church praying from morning till night and folding their arms doing nothing to change the country or their situation.

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=148652.msg3633545#msg3633545 date=1237842416]Joking Noah cannot possibly be as bad as Erick Dumbpier i would rather play Earl Boykins or Nate Robinson as my center than that idiot [/quote]Kai see insult

Its pretty frustrating and i have seen him run away with a couple of dodgy steals as well sometimes i wonder if all the refs in this league are on his payroll. As for Lebron well he does not hide his traveling does he sometimes lol he even went creative with it and called it the crab-walk

I would not be suprised if he were sending them offseason freebies Both of them will be involved in many controversial calls come playoff time. I'm just waiting to see what papa stern does about it.

Hmm i am not sure it was the same finals we watched in 05 ooh!! did you miss Robert Horry's clincher in game 5 at the Palace? that was one of the most evenly contested Finals in playoff history it went all the way to game 7 and either team would have won it lol if that Final was boring what would you say about 07 Final one of the first NBA Finals game i would watch and doze off in the process most one-sided in history trust me the Spurs would not forget that Pistons series in a hurry

Abeg it was forgetable jare we want mad dunks, fancy skipping to the lous, cross-court passes and interceptions, impossible half-court threes, free throw line drama etc . . . _{and preferably with the players wearing green and white uniforms}

My sista the 8th spot is not even promised PHX is only 3 games behind or thereabout and if we do make the playoffs then we would be lucky not to get swept by the Lakers in 4 games i don't see us doing a Golden State Warriors upset not on Kobe or Gasol's watch we have to move up those standings

PHX self is on a mini-streak . . . guess Shaq's not done yet lol. I still think ya'll gon get that 8th spot but I just fear for ya'll facing the Lakers as a reward

bawomolo:
siddon for corner. Deng and Rose would be all-stars in no time. be very afraid

Infact eh I'm shaking in my 4inch heels 

  It will be at least 2-3 yrs playa get used to it   

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=148652.msg3633278#msg3633278 date=1237838208]Lets make a trade! Joakim Noah for Erick Dampier [/quote]hehe    Bawo what say ye?

Now you see how we got mugged back in 06

My brotha I knew he was getting special treatment but this season is just ridiculous  . Dude charges into the paint like a headless chicken and the officials automatically blow the whistle. The league must address this and I'm glad coaches and analysts are starting to speak up about it. And they must address the traveling rule too . . . dudes like Lebron have been getting away with it too much.

Duncan might be boring but i don't think the rest of the Spurs are they play efficient basketball and thats what counts the Spurs are boring is a myth i once believed but not anymore after watching their playoff series with the Suns and the Mavs

Yeah they become palatable once you watch them with an exciting team such as the Suns . . . but remember their finals with Detroit few yrs ago? talk about a drag, it was prob the lowest rated finals ever  However I do like the upcomers on the team like Roger Mason. And I've liked Ginobili since he entered the league . . . his only problem is that sometimes he's inconsistent in his numbers n impact.

   Anyways how una dey fare trying to hold on to that 8th spot? men, your reward will be a first Rd. exit at the hands of those Lakers  . . . unless ya'll can do to them when GS did to ya'll few yrs ago.

huxley:
How was I suppose to understand this comment;

Literally or metaphorically?

Literally. I just thot it slightly comical that you'd open a thread and ask for others to ask the questions for you.

Common now Huxley don't feign innocence, you know why most christian NLders don't patronize your threads. Your reputation precedes and undermines whatever legitimacy might be contained in your threads/questions.

lol . . . I gotta admit, you have your moments of genuine humor.

  So is anyone going to help out Huxley?

[quote author=Sky-walker link=topic=148652.msg3632013#msg3632013 date=1237818617]But parkers game to me is 1 sided. I mean he goes through pick and roll all the time.Thnaks to Duncan who can screen better.Its always the Same old thing.[/quote]You have a point. But you gotta admit his 1-sided game is very effective. When he drives into the paint most teams can't stop him. He'll need to really develop his outside/jump shooting game as his gets older. And if you think about it it seems like the Spurs MO is to dare you to knock down jumpers & beat them from outside the paint.

I am so Happy Lakers are there so even Spurs go by Houston.Lakers are waiting for them For real.Kobe has made the NBA looking over thier shoulders for him.I really respect the guy.Going down and coming back up again.Lebron is another guy.I never liked him at first.I thought he was just a kid who was hyped but men,i am loving that guy lately oo.Dunks, shots,moves block ,steals.I mean The NBA now is about this two.I would love to see both of them at the Finals

You're right about Kobe and Lebron being the two major stars of the league now & Bron is the MVP. I also felt the same way about Lebron when he first came in the nba but this season alone has dispelled any doubts I may have had. Dude is a bonafide alien and I can't believe how much better he's gotten on defense.

I woulda loved to see them head-to-head at the finals too . . . but that would mean my C's would not be there so no can do

[quote author=Sky-walker link=topic=148652.msg3631883#msg3631883 date=1237817301]Yea u right.he is lazy on defence.Thats wot makes ron artest a better player but he is still a very good player.Was very happy they won spurs(i hate those guys)[/quote]Why now? The Spurs are consummate professionals & Duncan n co have a handful of rings to their credit. The only thing we all have against them is that they are boring to watch. Though Parker and Ginobili do keep things intresting a bit.

darrytoz:
HELLO BAPTIST ON NAIRANLAND,
@KUNLE_when it come to baptist doctrine they have one of the gratest doctrine on earth.just dont let us start talking about them ok.in the issue of tith well some pastor might lay empasis on that but for not believing in payiny tith it is up to u.
Let me share an experience with u,a church ones have a crusade at the entrance of my street and what the pastor talk about was about tith and praise.
firstly about TITH he said that people are wasting their money paying tith that paying tith is all about the old testament that is one of the commandment written down for the people of isreal but now we should stop payiny tith becos the saviour of the lord as come who is JESUS to take away our sin and he also said that a new commandment have been written in our heart in order not to forget it.he just said rubbish about tith that day that i began to douth the issues of paying tith in church am still on the research when am true i will let the house know about it.
secondly do u want to say that u dont do praises in church or any time they are worshipping GOD u do not participate.that is it man when u have the heart of praising GOD then u should also have the heart of giving something tangible to him apart from offering which is TITH.ok
ladies on nairaland who are also baptist we want to see u ooooooooooooooooo come join the forum where we are keeping the race intact in other to wear a crown*ADE*
REGADS TO ALL g.a lydia,r.a,bsf in the house and even the MMU,WMU,etc.

What do you need the 'baptist ladies' for?

huxley:
Why did you not address the issues I raise above? These are the issues at the heart of our (atheist) refusal to believe the claims of the religionists. You would gain more credibility of you had attempted to address these issues, but instead you decided to play the persecution-complex card. And then you cry foul when we despise and hold your belief in contempt!

lol . . . persecution card? I will assume that to be an attempt at a joke. I will not 'address' those questions becos you raised them. I'm not worried about therationa tpaine Huxley and what he thinks of my 'credibility'.

If Bawo, Chris, Manmustwac or Mazaje open a thread and raise those questions and invite opinions from christians, I will be the first to jump on board. Becos I know you're not really intrested in discussion as your history here has shown . . . small wonder no one but AIO replies your threads. I've already said that the only thing you've shown you care about is ridiculing, slandering, jeering, scoffing and mocking christians and christianity.

huxley:
For your information, atheists care first and foremost,  about the majors claims of religion such as;

1)  the existence of a supernatural realm and a god that inhabits that realm

2)  The nature of God and his attributes (otherwise known as the ontology of god)

This is essentially what atheism is suppose to adjudicate on - nothing else.   

Now, if you are making a claim fo the existence of an entity, the burden of proof is on you to provide evidence for that entity.  Atheists have no burden of proof on this subject.  Take the following little thought experiment as an example.

Do you believe in the existence of Sussicorn ? By the way, you have every right to ask me about the ontology of Sussicorn.

If you don't, why don't you?   Think of all the other gods that humans have venerated in the past- Zues, Wotan, Appolo, Sango, Thor, etc, etc.  Why don't you believe in any of these gods today?  If you understand why you don't believe in these gods, you would understand why atheist don't believe in your god.

*did not waste my time reading ^^*

Huxley I have 'known' you since the first day you started posting on NL and the only thing you've shown you care about is ridiculing, slandering, jeering, scoffing and mocking christians and christianity.

[quote author=Sky-walker link=topic=148652.msg3630334#msg3630334 date=1237790308][b]T.mac is my man.[/b]so sad he get injuries everyyear.With ron artest with them.i pray they deal with the west and shows them how its going down but this time.i pray them make it pass the first round[/quote]Get another man Mcgrady has always been lazy on defense. You cannot be a true star if you don't play both ends of the court. Anyways the Rockets look like a team with a mission right now, they didn't need TMac afterall.

bawomolo:
the rest of the league better be scared of our potential.

Scared wetin? dude ya'll are at least 2-3 yrs and 2-3 veteran player additions from being a legitimate contender.

bawomolo:
they have gotten better without T-Mac to ball hog and stall the offense. Ron Artest is a player when his aggression is towards the other team and his own team/himself.

I still can't believe Houston is #2 in the west Onyinye will soon be back in here . The Rockets should find a way to dispatch T-Mac this summer. This team obviously does not need him.

It's obviously dwayne wade has bribed referees. He and Kobe tend to get some mind boggling calls.

Seriously . It's a shame to the league. That play yesterday on Stucky was a foul, and if it had been reversed with Wade taking the shot he woulda gotten the foul. To add insult on top he was outta bounds when he caught the rebound. I hope Stern does something about how officiating is biased in favor of the stars mostly Wade.

JJ you're right. We should praise good things just as vehemently as we condemn the not-so-good things. The scholarships and funds to help start small businesses of the congregation are a good thing. As for some of the other things on the list 

manmustwac:
I never really used to bother my self about replying messages in the religious section until u came out with your topic called The problem with the atheist. Your topic made me realise the problem that religion was having in Nigeria {my country of origin} If your thinking that i don't care about religion your wrong because i do care. I care [/b]because Nigeria is probably the most religious country in the world and at the same time the most corrupt. [b]I care because because over a 100 million people go to church {or any other religious institution} every week they give 10% of their hard earned salary as tithes and in return all they get from thier pastors is false hope. I care because i always get phone calls from back home form my religious relatives and friends begging me to send them money for one thing or another. When i send them the doh they'll be thanking God for using me {the athiest} as an avenue to help them. I care because i also get calls from friends and relatives stressing me coz they want me to help them to leave that religious country and come to {England} this athiest country because nothing dey happen for that religious country. So my dear JeSoul religion affects me financially so just like the girl in the video I care

My brotha you may be suprised to know that a lot of biblical christians share a lot of the sentiments you expressed above. We do care along with you that 'religion' in Naija is for the most part negatively affecting the nation. We do care just as much as you do.

The thing is most atheists throw a blanket and condemn all things christian. So much good, so much work and charity is done by true christians practicing true religion all around the world. But most atheists turn a blind eye to that and instead focus solely on the famous pastors aka wolves in sheeps clothing saying "this is what christianity is". This to me is an intellectually dishonest position, they are obviously mostly emotionally driven and it immediately takes away any credibility from the atheist.

  These atheists chanting "death to religion", how many people have they themselves clothed? fed? helped? housed? for these people they supposedly 'care' so much about? I'm not saying they shouldn't condemn wrongdoing when they see it, but the way most of them go about it here on these boards shows their motive is not anything close to compassion or care, but moreso a public show of their unhealthy obsession and hatred for religion.

chiogo:
Right . . I made my comment 'cause you said you can't win games with rookies and D-League players, that was what I disagreed with. so long as the whole team is not made up of just rookies/d-league, they can assist the 'old timers' in some ways.

Gotcha. and we should keep the # of newbies as _low as possible 
 

Hmm girl, that's his personal business. Drinking ain't got a damn thing to do with b-ball so long as he doesn't look drunk on the court. Though I see him differently now in the moral aspect but that doesn't change one from being a good player. I've only watched him play a few times so maybe he's not all that.

Mehn personal business matters much more than we'd like to admit oh. The way you carry yourself off court speaks a lot about the professional that you are. That DUI tells me that he is not a disciplined or mature person.

bawomolo:
for where, you still talking shit after the bulls put a whooping on yall .

Abegi, one-hit wonders boku for ground. Come see us again homie, only the bony stalk will be left by the time we pluck all the petals off your precious Rose

bawomolo:
Atheists don't exactly care, we are just forced as minorities to be on the defensive.

Honesty. It is a beautiful thing. Now I hope the 'others' can stop deluding themselves that they actually 'care'.

davidlyan - what makes you think secular people can't be altruistic?

I don't think he meant they all can't be. I have met some wonderfully kind hearted but unfortunately non-believing people.
   However I'm willing to bet that majority of those strutting around on NL spewing hate towards all things religion on vicious junk threads are only exercising self-worship and self-deception, they have conned themselves into thinking they actually "care"

SeanT21:
Is it the one with tom cruise and dakota fanning??

Yup. Disappointing ending.

bawomolo:
ok you two cut it out, We have better issues than talking about a one hit wonder team

Naysayers like you shall be put to shame. Amen.

[s]Kobe bryant would be shut down in Chicago[/s], walahi.

Rephrase: Kobe bryant would shut down Chicago . . . there that makes much more sense now

kenny888:
I was in a canteen just two days ago eating when a man came in too,as his food was served,you need to see the way the man was praying assive he was told that that the food was poisoned,he was praying and calling the blood of Jesus continously before he started eating,i was amazed and wondered why was he pleading the blood of Jesus.After i finished eating i sat down and thought over the whole incidence,i now discovered that we are over using the blood of Jesus in this country Nigeria,if the blood was to be an exhaustable one,we in nigerian would have since finished it,because nigerian christains plead the Blood of Jesus even when maggi falls of their hands in the kitchen,so we need to educate ourselves on this because[b] from my own persecption the blood of Jesus is to be pleaded when one is in danger[/b],not when your bathing soap falls off your hand in the bathroom.I am only speaking of nigerians because i have never travelled out of this soil to know how they do theirs outside the country. So please lets look at this and comment pls.

I'm glad you used the word perception becos from a biblical standpoint, there is no basis for ever "pleading the blood of Jesus". I asked this same question a while ago and got no solid answer. See the thread: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-124301.0.html

chiogo:
hey! Bill walker is alright. So is Gabe Pruitt, he just doesn't get enough play. I dunno why Doc rarely puts him in games these days. His 3's are(were) fire!

Nah I don't think Pruitt is all that at all. Plus Doc can't give him minutes cos we need to integrate Marbury who's a proven player. I think Walker has potential, but he's not playoff ready and tested at all. Powe and Davis were once in his position and they've gotten so much better. It just takes time.

That's not true, girl. You're so wrong for that one. I watch college b-ball and sometimes, they seem like the Nba stars to me 'cause some so-called nba stars can't match up to some of 'em. Just 'cause you've been in the NBA for a century doesn't make you the best. Getting drafted into the NBA mostly depends on the type of school you go to. If you attend a ghetto mess of a school(eg. My school, lolz), yo ass is likely not gonna be drafted because your school isn't prestigious enough to even be recognized in order for you to be noticed. Besides, how do these players get better if they don't get plays? Sitting on the bench watching cannot really help you play, you gotta feel the ball and be able to control it. Homeboys need to toughen up, mediocre isn't cutting it. Rookie, bench, whatever. . .is Ariza not from the bench? Why is his case different?

I don't doubt you can have a few stars in the NBDL or overseas better than some NBA players. BUT by and large the best players in the world are in the NBA. Bench players esp from the NBDL can get playing time if they impress the coach during practice and make an impact in the short minutes they get in the actual game. Pruitt is not exactly a beacon of hussle, don't get me wrong he's a nice player but not ready to run the ship of a championship team. and he hasn't done himself any favors esp with the recent DUI.

Garnett would also be playing tomorrow. Right now, I don't think Celtics should be worrying about # 1 spot in the east. They already clinched(sp?) to the playoffs, they just gotta worry about controlling their losses and try to keep it minimum as is now which means more wins.

Well said.

I personally believe that KG is the best player on that team but I hate how everyone is fussing over him. I[b] was at first but seriously, he's just one person and if celtics can't win some without him, then I'm really sorry for them.[/b] Why are they even in the NBA? B-ball is all about picking up the pace. I understand the whole team thingy but that doesn't mean relying on one person.

The Celtics were fine short term without Garnett, remember they lost only 1 or 2 games over a long stretch. and that even prompted some espn analysts to ask if we were better without KG. You're forgetting we also lost Rondo, Tony Allen, Scal, Davis and that's when we started dropping games. And when you replace these kinds of quality players with uproven untested NBDLers and recent recruits you cannot expect the same winning results.

The only thing is to make sure we are healthy early April. I have 100% confidence in the team when they're at full strength.

spikedcylinder:
People pay church tax?

Recognise:
De-baptism movements exist in Catholic countries such as Spain, Italy and Argentina, while Germans are allowed to renounce their baptism officially in order to get out of paying a church tax.

It would appear to be so. I haven't heard of it before myself . . . or maybe its just in Germany? can one of our catholic brethren clarify?

Poor fella. He coulda avoided this hassle, if only he'd ever picked up his bible to read he'd know by now that he was never really baptised.

chiogo:
Jesoul, girl I was confused as hell too. Rondo is fine, he's playing right now against the heat. Well, I'm sure you know that already. but umm, yeah, Celtics gotta pick up the pace. They're impressive so far against the heat. Homeboy Wade is not playing. _yes!

Well can you blame them? Bill Walker in the past few games has been our closing center, Pruitt back up PG      you can't win games with rookies and NBDL graduates. Powe is out for weeks      just as he was dropping crazy numbers. Ray is expected to be back soon, in a week or so. Men I can't believe the kain bad luck we are getting.

bawomolo:
an underachieving no defence playing rookie is a beast? una no get shame o

Beasely ain't no beast jare. A few bright spots in one game does not certify a man jor.

Paul Pierce should stop whining about recognition, you can't carry a team like Lebron, wade, kobe or even Chris Paul or D.Rose. Paul Pierce is just average like Ben gordon

See insult to the Finals MVP . . . .  who are these yeye people dissing #34? did you see the 4thQ and overtime explosion? 36 - 11 - 5 and yes HE carried the team 
  He can't carry a team like CP3 and Wade?      Bawo your problems are worse than I thot   

Ray Allen just joined the injury list . . . what the heck is going on? 7players down to injuries. Kai! all the curses from Lailai have come to fruition