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Yes to both questions.

gold638:
Good morning house and biggest congrats to every ITA, PPR clinches. Pls I have a question. If you have a candian tourist Visa, does that mean you have applied to IRCC before? (Kinda confused as I'm unsure if its IRCC that issue tourist visas too). Help a confused young Lady ��

"If the candidate does not respond to the ITA (i.e., the candidate does not submit a complete APR within 60 calendar days of receiving the ITA and does not formally decline the ITA within this delay), the ITA will expire and the candidate will no longer be in the Express Entry pool. To re-enter the pool, the candidate must submit a new profile in their online account and be assessed for the MEC at that time."

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/permanent-residence/express-entry/invitation-apply.html

captainhoo:
copied from canadavisa.com

Demo/Redundant Accounts.
I am 8 months into the PR process (ielts, wes and what not) and had made around 4 demo profiles on ircc to go through the process (ofcource with fake details as shown in many youtube videos) and 2 out of 4 profiles had also recieved ITA's aswell as I had entered maximum score fetching values.
I'm sure many of us have done the same. Most famous "Profile creation for express entry step by step" video has over 1.5 lakh views and if mere 10% of the viewers have tried their hands, it equals15000 redundant profiles.
Surely this may be one of the reason for the crazy 450+ entries into the pool this year. I have already deleted/withdrawn those profiles and hope everyone to do the same. And please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.


@joo.2018 @ifeoma.77 @Tops.mamen and the house, when a profile gets ITA, doesn't reject or accept it and gets withdrawn. Does the profile get removed from the pool or does it remains in the pool.

@ummhalimah, @BootyliciousHon and @Amica26, @AzariahYaa and all others who got ITA, congrats again.

@akum1, congratulations on the PPR. May you be favoured in your new home.

Hahaha. Yes o. Thanks for the effort.

Hope to see you soon.

Newmum0615:
Ehen, that man wey I slap for IRCC office the other day got my message. What a wow. Congratulations oga wa.

It is your work experience na.

Use both. You are allowed to change your career.

chikadami:
Good evening All. Please I need a proper solution to my NOC issue. I have two different NOC codes for Audit and HR respectively. Do i include both, since they are different job lines or I use only one ? I honestly don't want anything that will raise suspicions or delay my progress

451 again.

Deja vu. This is looking like the way 441 was doing last year with those below 440 shut out.

Hmm.

Congrats to all those who got ITA.

To the rest of us below 450, let keep the hope while looking for ways to boost our CRS score.

The funny thing about all these is that the Masters and PhDs that are helping people to rake in these scores become useless when you start looking for work in Canada. At least it get you to the door, allow you to enter Canada.

Another reason could be due to sibling points. For everyone who lands in Canada, you can gift 15 points to each of your siblings. That has a powerful multiplier effect.

Evaluation first. Use the time to perfect your IELTS prep.

Marula:
Please which would you do first if you can't do both concurrently, Certificate Evaluation or IELTS with eyes on managing your finance ?

I was thinking of doing Evaluation first before test because of the time Cert Evaluation takes but after reading a testimony here, am considering doing the test first and if I get good grades that will make my CRS make good sense, then I'll go ahead with Certification evaluation.

What do you think?

Sis,

I think you will get faster response if you follow @Topsmamen's post. The second part says you shoulduse the NL search bar. Search "fbi pcc fingerprint".

It is not a FAQ, but there are questions and answer in previous threads.

BootyliciousHon:
For those who have gotten PCC form the US, how did you go about the fingerprint part? The FD-254( fingerprint form)...how did you g it? What kind if paper did you download it on? A4? Also how long did the process take?
I already read about how to get the PCC on the cic website but I dont seem to understand how to go about fingerprinting.

Anyone who can guide please?���

If you have gotten your biometrics letter, go and register for planningforcanada.ca. Part of the program is referral to different kinds of courses.

efizy09:
Hello guys,
i am new here and awaiting PPR. i work as an Editor and will like to know if there are courses i could do before PPR lands that will improve my chances in Canada.

@Goz, @Goz, @Goz, the pizza man.

Congratulations. May you be favored in your new home.

GozyNA:
Long PPR Gist Alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Timeline


PPR: 2:07am of April 17, 2019 (dated April 16, 2019)

Benediction: My prayer for everyone reading this is that no matter what stage you are in on this journey, the eternal one would do for you what he has done for me at the perfect time. God bless us all. Ire akari o. We shall all meet in our new home, Canada.

September is far na.

1. Use your current passport for medicals.

2. When you change your passport, which should be after your eAPR, raise a CSE for a change of passport.

BootyliciousHon:
Hi guys. I need a little guidance here please.( I havent read the last couple of pages so I do not know if it's been treated).
1. I am an ITA hopeful in today's draw.
2. My passport expires in September but I already did a renewal. Unfortunately there are no booklets so I am yet to collect it. I am hopeful that it would be ready by month end though.
3. I was trying to book for medicals but my passport number was requested. Hence I put that on hold.
4. I believe my EE profile contains my current passport number( cant remember but I want to think we had to fill it in while opening a profile)

What would you advice I do?
1. Go ahead to book medicals with the current passport which expires in Sept? If yes, wouldn't I need to change my passport as some before PPR? Wouldn't that drag my application timeline?

2. Wait for the new passport then do my medicals? If yes, the the passport number wont tally with what is in my EE profile. Can I just open my profile and change it ?( am always very wary of going near my profile so I dont mistakenly change anything).

Please I would appreciate clarity on this.

Thanks in advance.

P.s. I got the Alberta nomination

Thumbs up. May the rest of your journey be smooth.

Edmontonlad:
I feel like I have gotten PPR already and I never even write my test. Please allow me to celebrate about our little achievement.

So last two weeks Sunday, I and wify left for Lagos to start weac processing and her transcript. We met one elderly woman opposite the weac....

Congratulations, @petrichor. May you flourish in your new land.

That was some perseverance.

Thanks to you all: @Ramj, @DrMrsCK, @Topsmamen, @jholarharde, @cmaamaa, @ladymarshall, @Ifeoma77, @Vancouver4, @captainhoo, @beeodun, @Jennypharb1, @danianne, @Betap, @Adunnee, @DadR, @yemblaze, @beabeasquare, @raphrulz, @wisdom4today, @AzariahYaa, @Abiodunnn, @TemiGee, @ShininLite, @Mamaroon, @chicyclass, @majjj, @reavealhidden, @Dannyko, @VECOH1, @AdetonaDami, @Youtook, @chrisebsy, @Teamo2, @teepee4Him, @veleta, @55emem55, @stonecoldcafe, @Debsify and everyone who congratulated me.

May all of our dreams come true.

Yeah. All true.

The best laid plans of mice and men....

A man's heart plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps. Prov 16:9.

Ifeoma77:
Wow!!! That was a journey indeed. Funny how things have a way of working out in the end. The MBA turned out useful after all and the Job threat activated the EE ginger. The long ECA timeline allowed for time to rethink and add Madam while the arrival of little Joo triggered the dusting of the file that had been parked since December.
Congratulations again and again Joo, I am so so happy for you and your family. Canada awaits!

Hi,

It was an advice tailored to the OP's situation. He had reason to delay his application.

gobby:
Please @joo2018, am confused at your number 3 as i thought its good to gather all your documents even as your entering the pool. could you throw more light abeg...

VFS Update

https://www.nairaland.com/4472519/canadian-express-entry-federal-skilled/149#67773658
https://www.nairaland.com/4472519/canadian-express-entry-federal-skilled/199#67972027
https://www.nairaland.com/4472519/canadian-express-entry-federal-skilled/165#67830320
https://www.nairaland.com/4657743/canadian-express-entry-federal-skilled/23#70076407

The above links constitute the body of knowledge about passport submission at VFS. Based on my experience today, I want to provide an update.

Documents remain the same:
a. PPR mail
b. Filled height and colour charts (from the PPR mail)
c. International passport for each person
d. 2 photocopies each of passport
e. 2 photos with CIC specifications
f. Signed VFS consent form (from Vfs Nigeria website)
g. Filled IMM0008 (if there was any change in your family configuration)
i. Cash. N17,790 per person plus N680 per person for sms. You can choose to pay for onmly one sms. Ensure you bring the exact amount as no change will be given.

VFS Ikeja (Canada Visa Application Centre, Lagos Manor Hall, Plot 110, Admiral Ayinla Way, ... Third Roundabout, Lekki Phase I)
1. Show your passport at the entrance and enter.
2. Climb the stairs to the 2nd floor by your right. Enter the Canada application room by your left.
3. Tell the security by the entrance you are for passport submission, he will give you a slip.
4. Sit on the chairs in front of Counters 1 and 2.
5. When your slip is called, meet the attendant and give him/her your documents. He will arrange and put them in a bag.
6. The security will then give you another slip.
7. Go and sit front of Counters 6 and 7. This is the bank section.
8. When you number is called, go and pay.
9. Go and sit front of Counters 8, 9 and 19.
10. When you number is called, go and submit.
12. Collect your receipt with tracking number
13. Go and continue your travel preparations.

Congratulations to fellow PPR mates @konti, @sweethangbaby, @Obi1conte.

May our new home favour us.

LONG VERSION

BEFORE 2018 - BACKGROUND
I was your average, not-very-passionate, but quietly loyal Nigerian. All I wanted to do was make it here and go for holidays abroad. As my friends were jetting out one by one, I watched with a weird mixture of envy and disdain.

As time went by, however, my career stalled. Without professional growth, how will I be able to take care of my growing family? I work in a company in a specialized manufacturing industry. After ten years of work experience, I could no longer grow in the company and in a small, specialized industry I could not go to another company.

I really tried to transfer to another industry. I did an MBA, became a PMP, and registered with several professional bodies. Filled my CV. Applied, applied and applied for jobs. No dice. I still felt I could wing it though.

October 2017, while chatting with a childhood friend based Japan, he asked if I wasn't interested in traveling out. I told him not really. He then said Canada was the place to be and he would send me the process. I said ok, just to humor him. He forwarded a mail explaining Canada Express Entry and listed in it all the steps I was to take. I opened the mail, scanned the contents, smiled to myself, closed it and forgot about it.

JANUARY – MARCH 2018: DECISION TO IMMIGRATE
Fast forward to January 2018, my job came under threat. With bleak prospects everywhere, I realized I had to make a radical decision and start my career all over again. And then came the still, small voice, if I was starting all over again, why don’t I start all over again in another country?
I remembered my friend’s email and started research. Had a discussion with Mrs Joo and so the decision was made.

All the research I did showed that in 2017, ITA draw points were low and I could get ITA with 420s. With my MBA and IELTS alone, I could get that range, so it was decided that I would be the PA and only assess myself.

As NASU was still on strike, ECA was out of it. Registered for FutureLearn IELTS course (free option). Tried booking for IELTS only to realize that I needed a valid passport. Mine having expired. This was when passports were taking months to get. Found out that I could get one day passport at Ado-Ekiti. Took time off, traveled and got it. Booking for IELTS was tough as people were booking fast as the exam fee was increasing from 65k to 75k in May. I could only get April 4 test day at Port Harcourt. I booked it fast.

APRIL - AUGUST 2018: GOING SPOUSE UNACCOMPANIED
BC changed my exams days 3x within one week to the exam. The last one was a day to the exam. This was also a time when work situation was dire. There was no way to get leave and to go AWOL was to basically forfeit the job. So I gave up the exam. Rebooked for May 24.

When NASU resumed, I started the ECA with WES. I used my statement of result.
With extra time to prepare for IELTS, I used IELTS Ryan materials on youtube a lot. Downloaded and used a lot of IELTS practices apps on android (I don’t remember which. Uninstalled them after the exam). I also completed the Road to IELTS materials provided. Results came ok.

IELTS: May 24, 2018 L8 R9 S7.5 W7

While reading more, I found out that draws were consistently high in 2018 and there was no way I was getting an ITA with my projected score. Having gone far in the process, the options were to wait and encourage my spouse to start the process or to forge ahead and let my spouse find her way later. I felt so pressured and chose the latter. Told Mrs Joo the new reality. That she needed to do IELTS and ECA, but she could do them later. Start EE by 2019 as a PA. I was going on ahead. No delay.

It was at this period of confusion, I came across this thread online. Asked my first question and got an answer from @Ethelia. It didn’t help though as I asked the wrong question. Started reading through the different parts.

I was expectant. My ECA was due on August 21 and there was to be draw, draw #97 – August 22, 2018.

AUGUST – NOVEMBER 2018: GOING SPOUSE ACCOMPANIED
However, by August 18, I changed my mind. I had come to realize that I had made the wrong decision. I needed my family with me. With a new baby on the way, I couldn't leave Mrs Joo alone. It also helped that the threat at work had reduced.

After the normal delays on verification, WES ECA came out ok. Masters or Professional degree on August 21, 2018.

EE profile created: August 22, 2018.

Work on spouse ECA and IELTS began.

Spouse ECA was also with WES. They added the WAEC requirement just as I was about to begin the process. ECA came out October 10.

Little Joo in the womb wasn't easy on his mother and so my wife struggled to prepare for IELTS. But thank God, the exam came (September 29) and she added enough points to make our CRS score 447. The TRF arrived on October 15. I was about to update our profile with the TRF against a draw on Wednesday 17th, when I checked online and saw that there was a surprise Monday draw. Missed.

We met draw #103 on October 29th. ITA finally arrived on October 31st late at night. Saw it on the morning of November 1st. Since all the documents were ready. Filled the application, uploaded the supporting documents and submitted.

AOR: November 1, 2018

Other details:

Following @glitteringstar(2)'s steps, I opened folders for all the possible placeholders, so I could be ready for the big day. I placed the documents there as I was getting them.

Folders: Biographical datapage of passports, Birth certificates (for the children), Client Information (LOE), Digital photos, Marital status documents, Medical examination confirmation, Other Name (for spouse's change of name), Police certificates, Proof of funds, Proof of studies and Proof of work experience

POF: Settlement funds was 66% TBills, 24% savings account. 10% was Pension Fund but was there to act as a buffer. I had support from my Dad so I had a gift deed done. I didn’t submit it, but it was there as an insurance in case I got an ADR to prove the provenance of my finds. I actually named the folder I put it: in case I got an ADR.
I forecasted I would be moving money around after AOR and so included 3 other accounts to the application. They were mostly empty, but I didn’t want to be caught surprised in case I got a request for updated POF and the money was in an account I had not presented before. I got the inspiration from @vcole who include all of her own bank accounts. Got reference letter in CIC format from Stanbic. For the other banks, I used the introductory letters and letters of non-indebtedness provided.

Employment: I have worked in the same company since graduation in different roles under the similar NOC. The JD the company provided was a bit generic and it was basically the same for all the roles. I worked on it to reflect the actual duties I did. @Newmum0615 (God bless you!) proof-read it and did some fine-tuning. I presented to HR and gbam it was rejected. World people.
The HR Director noted that it was not in the company’s format and asked the HR Manager to rework it. It stayed with that dude for a month. He always said he was busy. I tried to reason with him without tipping my hand. For where. At the end, he reverted to the old format. Did minor tweaking for all roles I’ve had at the company. It was so disheartening. I was able to convince him to include a line under each role highlighting the different staff I supervised in each role (officers, supervisors and production staff). That differentiated it a bit and showed progression.

3 of the roles were NOC 0. 2 were NOC A. In my EE profile, I had filled the 3 NOC 0 roles for my work experience. I chose the longest role (6 years) as my primary NOC. The reference letter covered 4 of the roles. One was discarded as I was told they don't give reference letter for NYSC. The reference letter was 5 pages long. I submitted the single reference letter in each of the 3 placeholders for work history. In my personal history, I included ALL of the 5 roles I have served in the company.

Education: ECA report, Degree certificates, IELTS TRF. I uploaded statement of result for my MBA as the certificate was not ready and Uniben was demanding for another 2yrs school fees (after convocation and no fault of mine) in order to issue the certificate. It gave me concern, but I relaxed when I re-checked Canada.ca and only saw “proof of studies” with certificates only as an example.
Spouse’s Education: ECA report, Degree certificates, IELTS TRF. Also statement of result for her M.Sc.

Spouse Work Experience: We worked at the same company, so I collected a reference letter for her at the same time. I didn’t remove her work history. I submitted it since I already had it.

Medicals: Done at Q-Life. Very seamless process.

Police certificate: I printed out the form before the day. We did our fingerprints and filled our forms. On the day, met ASP Moshood and gave him the filled forms. Went smoothly.

Photos: Studio 24, Ikeja. Turned out to be a waste of money as we did it early. The photos expired before PPR. We could have used normal digital photos and edited them.

Legal document for name change: Submitted one & the same person affidavit for spouse.

LOE: None

In preparing for the application, I downloaded forms IMM008 Generic, IMM5669e Schedule A and IMM5406e Additional Family Information as these are the forms in the eAPR.

NOVEMBER 2018 – APRIL 2019
I'm the kind of guy who watches CNN for 8hrs even though it is the same news being repeated every 15mins, so I made a decision to check my email and profile only once a day in the morning from Tuesday to Saturday.

Almost 2 weeks after submission I realized that after all the preparation, I did not include anything “Organization” in our personal history i.e. I didn’t include any organization we had belong to. To cover all bases, I drafted a LOE listing the organizations I and my wife had belonged to over the past ten years, signed it and scanned. Raised a CSE on Nov 13, 2018 and attached it.

MEP/BIL was on November 30. Got a ghost email for UCI numbers on December 1. Did biometrics on December 7 and it was completed a few hours later.

The background check changed to IP1 on December 14. Raised a CSE to know VO on December 22nd. Got a reply on 24th.

Raised another CSE for status on February 4, 2019 and got a generic reply. Ordered GCMS notes on February 4. It arrived on April 13, 2019 (took 69 days).

The wait ehn. It is only when you submit your application that you can understand. Then everyone around you starts getting PPR here and there and you wonder what is wrong with your application. You apply for GCMS notes, it doesn't arrive even as people around you are getting theirs after 2 weeks. You start wondering what message God could be trying to pass along.

Then you get your notes and find out that eligibility has been passed since December 13. Warristhis!!!!!!!!

Little Joo came in February. I took the chap and his mama to NIS for passport within a week. There was complaint about unavailability of booklet, but God used a lady at the office to help out. Passport came out within a week. When I made a slip about the baby and passport on the thread, @mummychichi reached out. Thanks for that. Booked and did medicals with IOM (Qlife was telling me to wait till May).

Raised CSE to add newborn little Joo on March 19, 2019. A reply came on March 21 that I should mail Ottawa directly. Did so promptly.

Got an ADR upload little Joo's documents on March 22, 2019. Submitted documents on March 23. ADR profile changed to Not Applicable on March 25. Got a ghost email on March 26, 2019. Found out it was for UCI no the baby. His medicals passed on March 27.

Another period of waiting.

Sunday morning, April 14, I had an unusual urge to check my profile. I had not checked it on Sunday before. Checked and voila, it is IP2.

Ready for Visa / Prêt pour Visa landed gently at 2:13 AM, April 16, 2019 (it was dated April 15).

Thanks to all of you in the thread for keeping me sane. Answering your questions does me a world of good. It satisfies my need to poke my nose into other people's business, spend hours searching for information online and render (un)solicited advice.Thanks to @Tojued and @Ifeoma77 for the banter. @dumprep, I miss your posts. Thanks to @raphrulz for reaching out and the friendship. A special thanks to the November AOR whatsapp group @ramj, @jholarharde and all you lovely people whose NL monikers I don't know.

I have a dream that all of our hopes and dreams about Canada will come true.

Abridged Version

Decision to immigrate to Canada: January 2018
IELTS: L8 R9 S7.5 W7

ITA: Oct 29, 2018 (sent Oct 31, seen Nov 1)
AOR: Nov 1, 2018
1st IP2: Nov 1, 2018
1st CSE: (additional information): Nov 13, 2018
MEP/BIL: Nov 30, 2018
1st Ghost email (UCI no): Dec 1, 2018
Biometrics completed: Dec 7, 2018

IP1: December 14, 2018
2nd CSE (for VO): December 22, 2018
3rd CSE (for status): February 4, 2019
GCMS notes (ordered via getgcms.com): February 4, 2019.

4th CSE (to add newborn): March 19, 2019
CSE replied, redirected to mail Ottawa directly: March 21, 2019
Mail to Ottawa on newborn: March 21, 2019
ADR (newborn documents): March 22, 2019
ADR replied (documents uploaded): March 23, 2019
ADR received (N/A): March 25, 2019
2nd Ghost email (UCI no for newborn): March 26, 2019
MEP for newborn: March 27, 2019

GCMS notes received: April 13, 2019 (took 69 days)
2nd IP2: April 14, 2019 (Sunday morning)
PPR: April 16, 2019 (dated April 15)

AOR to PPR: 5 months and 16 days or 167 days

VO: CPC-Ottawa
Family of 5


Full gist later in the day.

1122

jazzy:
Hi e-fam, Good evening o. The number of PPRs i ve been seeing mehn!! God is just awesome, i m so happy for you guys and hopefully soon we ll all be able to share our PPR story. So, finally WES has released me o. I was so excited to see that my evaluation has been completed. Just waiting and praying that this Friday brings me good news with my IELTS result.

I need your help please the NOC maestros in the house. Please can you assist with a suitable NOC code for me? I ve been looking at 1122 (Professional occupations in business management consulting), is this right?? or is 4163 more related?

Job Tittle: Corporate Strategy Analyst
DUTIES & RESPONSIBILITIES:
• Communicate effectively and regularly with Head of Corporate Strategy Unit and other team members, providing timely feedback on initiatives, and on assigned tasks and responsibilities.
•

Proceed as you are. You are safe.

The specifics of the educational requirements are for Canadian residents not wannabe Canadians like us.

executivegej:
This question is about NOC 4031- secondary school teachers. Is a bachelor’s degree in education required for NOC 4031?

Any firsthand experiences of those who have used NOC 4031 will be appreciated.

I have 10 years of teaching in secondary school and a masters in literature.

Where did you see "single" in my write-up?

ladymarshall:
Thanks for these insightful posts. Very well researched and meticulous detailing. You are too much. Are you a data analyst or a researcher or an academic. Na dem dey use "postulation", "proposition" etc for explanation

BTW, so you are actually single. Why are you acting married na?

The bolded is what they implement in practice.

ladymarshall:
I do not think @bolded is true. Check here under "Renewal (Expired Validity/Unexpired Validity)" section https://immigration.gov.ng/standard-passport/

"If your passport is older than 6 months, you will need to have your picture and biometric data taken at your chosen Immigration Office...Applicants are require to appear at chosen Immigration Office for photograph and biometric data capturing if current passport is more than six (6) months old..."

Except wetin dey for paper different from reality, naija tinz.

Congratulations to @Deniceone and @bests. May your new home yield its increase to you.

People should fear God o,

See fake news.

"The PM added that, over the past three years, Canada has granted residency to all Nigerians who were illegally living in Canada and applied to remain. “We granted them and urging everyone to apply. It’s good we document everyone to know how many people we are to cater for”, he said.

In a memo sent to the Nigeria High Commission in Canada, the Employment and Migration Programme will allow Nigerians wishing to live in Canada to first obtain job before traveling to the country."

Topsmamen:
Canada’s Prime Minister begs Nigeria President for one million immigrants

Beg? He doesn't even need to ask. Buhari will probably be like "Mr Frime Minister. These lazy Nigerian youths are already leaving the country". Doesn't seem true, if you ask me.

I'm not sure WES will start the process until all the documents are complete.

Maybe those who evaluated 2 or more certificates with WES can explain better.

cc:Jenolyfavour

olamse:
Good day all. Pls I want to evaluate my certs but only B.Sc is ready as I'm currently preparing for CIMA. Pls in other to save cost, can I input 2 certs to be evaluated under wes while I currently start processing my B.Sc and leave the CIMA till I'm done.
Also why I thought of not waiting to get CIMA cert is because I believe it will be faster since its not handled by a Nigerian institute.

I really think it is time to round up this discussion. We are starting to derail the thread.

You can update your profile pre-ITA.

Your LinkedIn profile should be consistent with your application data.

junebaby:
Thank you.
Quite helpful. It means I have to change my information pre ITA or I just maintain what I have on my EE profile?

In addition, should I update my LinkedIn profile to show all these job roles or no need?

Thank you.

joo2018

Congratulations. May you flourish in your new land.

Deniceone:
And He chose to favour me! Despite my faithlessness and unfaithfulness, He remained faithful!

PPR – 12/4/2019

All Glory to God.
It ended in Praise

Truer words never spoken.

Ifeoma77:
The truth is; most times when people come out to ask questions, they already have a game plan and are just looking for someone to provide ginger and validate their choice. Your advice wasn't what they wanted to hear at the time - even if it was the correct information.
It's sad that they wasted all that time and still have to start over again. But giving up is not an option, they should dust themselves up and get into the fray again.

Thanks for the big congrats