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afiq:
God created us with a purpose

and what purpose do you have in mind?

^^^^^^^
very funny!
you have a wild imagination though.

you guys definitely haven't experienced the frustration of flying cockroaches!

the morning after my own experience,i declared operation fire for fire on them killing battalions of them in the operation and since then,they now keep their distance.

it all depends on why you tithe

if you tithe because you your pastor said it is an obligation or because of what you plan to get from God i assure you that you wont get any blessings for what makes you different from a gold digger or a hypocrite?

the only tithers that get returns are those who tithe out of love and the desire to help others for Deut.14.29 says

"This food is for the levites since they have no property and for the foreigners’ orphans and widows in your towns".
the tithe was as a means to help the poor for God did not want them to suffer.giving to a rich pastor is not the same as helping the poor

so i think that instead of giving to a pastor who already has possesions and now spends his money going abroad and sending his children to school there while porverty is raging in the country,it would be better to give that tithe to the poor and i assure you that God will bless you for it.

@wirinet
once again you miss my point. all i want you to do is to acknowledge that the world and its inhabitants could not have come about withouth the coordination of a higher power because even the most minute thing that expanded and became complex to form the world we have to know that it was put there by someone and that someone is GOD.

what i call stupidity is believing that something physical came out of nowhere and started becoming complex!

for instance;
a piece of moulded clay says he is made from clay and that his beautiful patterns were made by clay while another says he was made by a man using clay.

wont you call the first piece "foolish"?well,thats how you atheist are!

@wirinet
i do not advocate that you must worship God infact you can damn him but to say he doesn't exist is the pinnacle of foolishness

@ nopuqeater
let me break down their belief for you;the one that died is different from the one he was always praying to.

in fact in their opinion there is no one God but different forms that make a Godhead[i dont believe this]

that was why jesus had someone to cry and pray to.

to me atheism is foolishness!

you could hate God,say he is wicked,say he doesn't help people and doesn't care even say his ways are not right and worship satan but to say he doesnt exist is this foolish.

a piece of moulded clay says he is made from clay and that his beautiful patterns were made by clay while another says he was made by a man using clay.

why do atheist find it hard to believe that God isn't behind everything the scientists discover?there is no evidence to show that he is not.

stop this foolishness and even if you wont worship him at least know that he exist!

it is foolish to assume something just came about because no matter the most minute thing that expanded and became complex to form the world we have to know that it was put there by someone.
things dont just happen!

@olabowale
is your wife a muslim now?

@OP
let your life be the living example that will convert her but don't coerce or coax her to convert.dont forget that there should be no compulsion in religion.

@olabowale&barakah
why would you want your wife to be a muslim like you?

a cousin of mine told me that once when a girl he didn't realy have feelings for told him "i love you",in that tight situation he replied "hmmm, you make sense"

@gabry

the only wrong statement i wrote is this".You could make Mary the highest authority in your religion with God as her pet"and its an expensive joke.

am i not entitled to my opinion as you are. i neva once preached christianity to you it only baffles me that you are mixing religions that cant mix and thus while you may be tolerant it does not flow.

it is very good to be tolerant to other's religions even if you knew they were wrong cos its not their fault that they are not convinced or where born into wrong families but to accept some sets of religions together such as christianity and islam does not make sense which is why i suggested you creating your own religion.

maybe we should care less about unwanted mindless foetus that are killed and care more about grown ups who die after money,time and care have been lavished on them in addition to labour pains the mother went through.

i would even care more for mindful animals who end up on our plates after the stress the mother has put into bringing them up.

at least the foetus doesnt yet have a mind to feel the pain so in the real sense it is not so terroristic.[i am totally against it though]

heb.2.11
for both he who sanctifies[jesus] and those who are being sanctified[us] are all of one[God]

how are we of God? he brought about us. i the same vein how is jesus of God? he brought about him too!

rev.3.21
to him who overcomes i will grant to sit with me on my throne as I ALSO OVERCAME and sat down with my father ON HIS THRONE.

the father owns the throne cos he is GOD while jesus and us will sit with him if we overcome.

^^^^^^
i second that!

i realy would have no problem with islam if i knew why i must believe that muhammed was sent by God.

muhammed did not perform miracles like jesus,elijah or elisha.
he died like a mere mortal meaning that his life was not as pleasing to God as enoch or elijah so why so much on him.

if i could choose not to believe him and be a muslim then i would be able to give islam a fair hearing.[not saying i want to or need anyone to convince me to]

so what is so special about him?

No!
Ezekiel.18.20
The soul who sins shall die. The son who shall not bear the guilt of the father.

I am not bound by original sin I don’t know about you!
The only reason why all have sinned is that you can’t go through this world without committing sin.

@bee44

Do not let your desire for fornication blind your eyes to the truth.

in that verse what was the reason she was to be stoned?-
“ She has done a shameful thing by having intercourse before she was married”.

so why are you turning the bible up side down? If you want to fornicate you don’t need to drag others into it with you! For all you know heaven may not be that sweet or hell that bad so don’t stress your self and stop twisting the laws of God.

@gabry

Since you don’t believe all the dogmas of any religion completely then it means that you don’t practice any religion faithfully and if admission into the kingdom of God was by any of those religions you definitely won’t enter for the bible says God hates lukewarm people(Revelation 3:14-16).

I suggest that you start your own religion [deep sight has started his] which can be a mixture of all the religions you like as one cos for instance Islam and Christianity cannot mix because Christianity is built on the claim that Jesus the son of God came to die for our sins while Islam expressly denies this giving him the attribute of a prophet so you cant sit on the fence on this one.
Maybe the almighty would approve of your mixture.

[You could make Mary the highest authority in your religion with God as her pet]

Rom.8.7- and a person becomes an enemy of God when he is controlled by human nature for he does not obey God’s law and in fact cannot obey it.

Deut.22.21(GNB)
…then they are to take her to the entrance of her father’s house where the men of the city are to stone her to death.
She has done a shameful thing by having intercourse before she was married.

With this how can someone say it is in our nature so it is not wrong or was this girl not acting according to her nature?

@bee444

fornication is a decision between loving your self more than God or God more than yourself as (John 14:15) says If you love me, you will keep my commandments.

the ball is in your court!

@m_nwankwo
you did not get my picture.
everything i deduced is centered around Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit Being "parts" of the Father

@InesQor
that has not explained the "nature of God" it only tells me that they have it.

what is the nature of God? and dont forget that a cup of water from the ocean has the nature of the ocean water but is not the ocean.

what is the nature of God?

@Ebonyeyes

why not cut him loose cos it is clear that you are deficient in some area so if you cant measure up or find out your deficiency then it would be better to take a walk

deductions from m_nwankwo 's last post [discuss]

If the portion of God[triad] that was selectively poured out has always been God the son then that part cannot have been cohesive but adhesive to the other parts meaning that that part has always had its own identity which is the only reason why ONLY that minute part was poured into the vessel.

If they were originally three indistinct then some parts of God the father,the son and some parts of the holyspirit would have been poured into the vessel as well.

According to your post jesus is an irrelevant portion of an infinite being and therefore his absence from that being make no difference to the size of the being thus Jesus has the nature of God but is not God and only the father is God.only the father is infinite and infinity is the greatest property of God

the only reasons apart from that could be blackmail of some sort[justifiable],he is not that sexually attracted to you or more attracted to the other[not justifiable] or he loves the other more than you[not justifiable]

@InesQor
to me God is the highest authority to all i existence but since you have a better explanation you could explain what nature of being the triad share.

you denied him sex,attention or love is justifiable at least when you want the relationship to go on

ask why your spouse did it!
the reply will determine if the relationship will still go on.