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@InesQor
i dont have time for an argument so i wont start what i may not finish so i will be less attacking in my posts.

do you believe that there is no one God but 3 who make up God[like the atom] so that only together can we call them God seeing as they can exist independently[you cant say the oil was with the source and in the jar at the same time]

for jesus to be selectively poured out it means they are not one like oil but more like water,oil and mercury

i will answer your reply later but let me get this straight first.

@InesQor
conclusions i draw from your widow of Zarephath's flask of oil that never ran out-feel free to correct.

1.if God "poured" himself into a human body then there was no God the son before then.

2.there is a main and higher form of God who is not jesus.jesus is a lesser portion of God.

3.whatever happens to jesus does not happen to God so jesus is not God but a part of God which can exist independently but his absence does not change the composition of an infinite so God can do without him.

4.i take it God the father is the source of the oil so the father is greater than the son so the son has all qualities of the father but is not the father.

5.the son is ONLY priviledged to have part of the father and thus the son was made by the father.

i realy would have no problem with islam if i knew why i must believe that muhammed was sent by God.

muhammed did not perform miracles like jesus,elijah or elisha.
he died like a mere mortal meaning that his life was not as pleasing to God as enoch or elijah so why so much on him.

if i could choose not to believe him and be a muslim then i would be able to give islam a fair hearing.[not saying i want to or need anyone to convince me to]

so what is so special about him?

i like your spirit Gabry all but satanism and mary worship though and since no religion tells you to commit sin and crime,i take it that you are on the high way to the almighty if you follow the teachings.

it just amazes me that someone who practices christianity and islam could be this tolerant when both religions identify themselves as the only high way to heaven.i know christians to believe that theirs is the one and only and this can be evident in maykelly's "woe" thread.the mildest of christians are those that believe that anyone who does good irrespective of religion will go to heaven even though john.3.14-16 talks against it and those ones dont as much as practice the other religions.

you are one of a kind for even my tolerance has limits.welldone

Gabry
1.you are not a christian because jesus said no one comes to the father except by him so you would not try other ways if you followed his teaching.

2.what actually is your religious belief for to me you seem to have none[for instance christians believe that jesus came to die for their sins]

3.Do you worship God or do you find religion as a play thing to laugh and enjoy while it goes on?

you should know better than to worship mary just as much as i wont worship elijah though he performed extraordinary miracles and never died.he could be my role model too.

nice sitting at the cross road gabry but in Hinduism you worship other gods and godesses like fertility etc so how do you reconcile that with Yahweh and Allah who permit you to have no other god but them?Yahweh is a jealous God.then you are definitely wasting your time with christiaity and islam.

i take it you believe all roads lead to God and at the same time that you have no strong conviction for following any religion. you only practice religion because you feel it is fun and while i wont criticize you i hope that you find the right way to God for i fear that you may be wasting your time.

i believe heaven refers to the space outside the earth which is why the stars et al are called HEAVENly bodies.

@Ogaga4Luv
Are you an atheist or a satanist?

if you are an atheist why do you believe there is no God or are you using jehovah as your standard for God?you could move around and try other gods.

Do you think there is no God because he refuses to act?or havnt you considered the possibility of a sendless God?

i realy want to know?

@Deep Sight
do you say God does not frown at sex before marriage or that you don't care about his opinion?

Deut.22.21(GNB)
…then they are to take her to the entrance of her father’s house where the men of the city are to stone her to death.
She has done a shameful thing by having intercourse before she was married.

With this how can someone say it is in our nature so it is not wrong or was this girl not acting according to her nature?

Rom.8.7 says
And so a person becomes an enemy of God when he is controlled by his HUMAN NATURE.

So It is clear that God does not support intercourse before marriage so why twist it, spin it and shade it to show otherwise.

But coming to think of it you have your opinion so why should God’s unwelcome decision override yours?

It is interesting seeing how people want to make light of what we all know as the truth to suit their desires but seriously there is no need for that. Why must you keep the laws of some Jehovah you have never seen? For all you know heaven may not be that sweet or hell that bad so don’t stress your self and stop twisting the laws of God.

@TrueSeeker

you could show us the bible part which is related to anti-blood transfusion cos i can remember moses sprinkling blood on the people as the sign of the covenant[so much for abstinence from it]

p.s you dont eat the blood in transfusion

i dont think God frowns at any act that can save life bad as people may think it is.

Fhemmmy

pls refer to matt.9.1-2
here forgiveness also brought about healing and that is the motive behind the verse "so then confess your sins to one another and pray for one another so that you will be healed"

Fhemmmy

please do me a favour and read that full passage so that you will understand.

the verse talks about "so that you will be healed" can encouragement heal someone

the verse talks about the one person " praying" for another to bring about healing so what do you understand by these?

@Fhemmmy

James.5.16
so then CONFESS your sins to one another and PRAY for one another so that you will be healed.

            the person you confess to is supposed to PRAY for you and not encourage and that is what priests do.

@Fhemmmy

i dont get your point so i quote from NKJV

James.5.16
confess your trespasses to one another and pray for one,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Fhemmmy what is your point

James.5.16
so then confess your sins to one another and pray for one another so that you will be healed.

BTW i am not a catholic

You can’t serve two masters but most of all you cant serve God and your desires.
Rom.8.7- and a person becomes an enemy of God when he is controlled by human nature for he does not obey God’s law and in fact cannot obey it.

See, you say you love God while you are already his enemy.

The only way we can show our love for God is by keeping his commandments for num.15.30 says anyone who sins DELIBERATELY is guilty of treating God with contempt and you cant treat someone you love with contempt.

The ball is in your court; you either sacrifice your passion so as to truly show your love to God [not merely saying it] or keep treating him as a common whose laws can be broken whenever it suits you.

rev.14.4
these are the ones who were not defiled with women for they are virgins. these are the ones who follow the lamb wherever he goes these were redeemed from among men being FIRST-FRUITS to God and to the lamb.

they are the FIRST,not the only ones.

Matt.6.2
So when you give something to a needy person, do not make a show of it as the hypocrites do in the streets and houses of worship.
3. For when you do a charitable deed do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing.

I conclude that any pastor who advertises/publicizes his charity deeds to disaster struck and other needy and poor people is a hypocrite. [Unfortunately there are many of them] They only give so that others will praise them.

Do you share my opinion or not? If you don’t, why not?

Acts.4.27
   and the people of Israel against Jesus YOUR HOLY SERVANT  WHO YOU MADE MESSIAH.

Acts.3.26
  And so God chose HIS SERVANT and sent him  first to you to bless you by Making everyone of you turn from his wicked ways.

THE SERVANT AND THE MASTER Can never BE THE SAME PERSON AND THE ONE WHO WAS MADE Cannot BE THE One WHO MADE.

these verses show that he was ALREADY A SERVANT before he was sent.

about john.10.30,
What Jesus meant by the above verse is that he and the father are one because they both followed the same ways and followed the same path.
Using Jn 14:20
…you will know that I am in my father and that you are in me just as I am in you.

Here you understand that Jesus is in the father ONLY because he does the father’s will and his disciples are in him because they do his will and he is in them because they all follow the same path which makes them one with God too because they all follow the same path. a=b and b=c and a=c

p.s i am not arguing this ON THIS THREAD

@xxyz17
it is not my business but i knw the tithe is not for them alone so i could help them share it.why draw conclusions that i dont pay tithe wen i seem to knw so much about it?

but come to think of it the pastors are cheating their counterparts

Deut.14.29
This food is for the levites since they have no property and for the foreigners’ orphans and widows in your towns.

Pastors should start sharing tithes equally with their counterparts (foreigners orphans and widows) or we would have to do it ourselves.

I don’t think any pastor is charitable by giving to the needy cos their allowance is in our tithe.
(maybe we need to remind them)

@Super T
john.14.28- …I am going to the father; for he is greater than I.

they are not equal!

col.1.27

"christ in you,your hope of glory"

@jagunlabi

if the concept of someone or something dying to wash away the sins of others is also PAGAN.does that mean it did not happen??
you may want to share with us why else Jesus came to earth.

going thru dis thread it is clear that the contents of the quran were decided upon by mortals who neva got d revelations which is why Zaid bin Thabit's was different .

such a book cannot be authentic so d argument can stop now.the quran is just as unauthentic as other holy books.

nice one viaro.

"'Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt."

this is why the quran has only one version.nobody did this for the bible

What really matters is that we r reflecting and appreciating that Jesus died to wash away our sins.the date is irrelevant.

and lest u forget we don't practice any pagan activity/rite on easter so who cares if lucifer was created then?

nuella2
i knw my God and i dnt blame ur reply but i was only giving the best answr to d question.for som1 who is in christianity like me i cant doubt d power of God so dont sweat it.

seeing that i live a life of love to my neighbor and keeping from anything the society or reasonable people frown out[disregarding my religion], i don't think i deserve to be punished EVEN IF i worship a false god.

and if i am punished by a god who claims to be just then i would take it i good faith knowing he is not who he claims to be.

I WILL NOT REGRET

"commanded" in inverted commas meaning that was not his focus but justice et al.

parrallel meaning that your verse was preaching on tithing whilst he only said it in passing.

why woe to them?

most of them are not convinced so you can pray that they would be or try convincing them. nobody sees the light and chooses darkness.

even the disciples needed proof and convincing to believe the resurrection

Matt.23.23(NKJV)
‘Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin and have neglected the weightier matters of the law; justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done without leaving the others undone

@Tonye-t
Your verse is in parallel-Jesus never "commanded"