₦airaland Forum

fayahsoul:
It has to do with the principle of Afuraka for Afurakans. . .you jackass.

I dont trade words with people , but civility entails the ability to express and articulate your views without the emotional outburst of insulting people.

fayahsoul:
Arab islamic imperialism was responsible for the transaharan slave trade that began around 7ad and still ongoing. The weakening and eventual collaspe of the late west african empires due to imposed islamic hegemony constrained the capacity to put up a strong resistance against the european trans-atlantic slave trade. Jews, mediterraneans(i.e lebanese), Arabs, islamized and arabized afurakans, all captured Afurakan indigenes for enslavement. huh?

Kemet/tamare/egypt was/is a black land in north Afuraka but the land is currently in usurpation by Arab imperialism(since 640AD), and they also claim that it's a middle-eastern country. huh?

During colonial dayz, who owned the wholesale and retailsale distribution newtwork from Afurakan enclaves to european enclaves? The asians(i.e lebanese from southwest asia). huh?

Overstand that history repeats itself when lessons are not learnt and used to make changes to the established order. Prior to serving as the middle link in the trade of goods and services during colonial times, the asains(lebanese) were the middle link in the trade of humans which was the business in vogue back then. The slave trade was not a randomized transaction as some may believe. Specific groups were targeted by 'Jews, mediterraneans(i.e lebanese), Arabs, [b]islamized and arabized afurakans'[/b]who were inturn funded by the church. Don't you know that the church founded islam? huh?

The lebanese accusing the nigerian of racism is an old trick in the oppressors book called "blame the victim." huh?

Dude can you guys not make contributions to political threads without spewing uneccassary and irelevant religious and racial sentiments. What has all this write up which i cant even make anysense out of got to do with Lebanese Nigerians with Nigerian passports, born in Nigeria ,fathers born in Nigeria and trying to renew their passports?

Again i repeat creation of the earth was in two days mountains have been described as pegs on the earth by Allah in the quran and Allah has clearly differentiated the earth from the mountains.

In many verses of the quran Allah talked about the events of the end of the world and he said the mountains will be scattered as dust but the the earth is still there. Todak the explanation is the earth was created in two days and the combination of the earth and mountains in four days.

I am not known for moving round cycles in debates or arguing for winning sake. This is the explantion of islam and as understood by all muslims scholars. The earth and heavens were created in 6 days and there is no contradiction in that verse. It is up to you to accept or not it doesnt matter at all.

Blacks are definately more than 1.1 million as shown by the link above . If Nigerians could amount to btw 800k and 3 million then blacks will be around 4 million at least.

The asians especially indian and pakistani in the 50s to 60s ensured their children had high education while the blacks in the UK then were of carrebean origin did not really go for education.

It is a known fact that African blacks are more educated comparaed to their carrabean brothers. Witihin the asian bangladeshi are the least educated as they go into restaurant business and other businesses after high school. You need quality education to get into politics in this country and if you look at the background of the MP's majority of them were educated in private schools (which is damn expensive here) , studied at oxford , cambridge (i think about 60% of intakes are from private schools). Not many ethnics have this priviledge but things will change here steadily i am sure but calling for a black PM might be 20 yrs away but it will happen if obama is a successful president.

Abeg make we find sumthin beta do jare!!!! Onenaija is the best nairalander!!! happy?

Lol
If you embark on CAPITAL intensive projects, that means you are a CAPITALIST. If you embark on social projects like Eyo festival, okonko or argungu, that means you are a SOCIALIST; if you embark on Community services, that means you are a COMMUNIST. I learn a lot from Nairaland.

Seriuosly the 10 lane in badagry is more than neccessary and i think ikorodu road and Oshodi - apapa way should follow suit. Agege motor road should also be expanded to at least 8 lanes as well.

these roads are major link roads in Lagos and if Fashola could do all these then he would have achicved something laudable not forgeting the 4th mainland bridge to open up ikorodu.

9jaganja:
Lagos boy is always kissing the Arabs' asses. History will repeat it self if you don't know and it'll do until you know it. Your bitch ass should research on Zanzibar and how every African slave that mistakenly looked at an Arab woman will be beheaded and a Magnolia tree planted over his grave. I don't hate Arabs, I hate their doctrines. Hell I was dating Arab girls back in England. I don't care about your race, your doctrines are all I need to know. Who started slavery? Europeans? sucker, keep kissing asses to get 72 virgins. That's not in the Quran? read a again. Beat your wife Al Nisa (Sura 4:34) Convert or be a slave or pay taxes or be beheaded Sura (9:11, 2:193, 9:5, 9:29, ). Also dumb nuts, read the apostle of Bukhari. What else is there to defend in your imported religion? Shut up cause you are becoming annoying.

Shut up dumb ass and suck it up!!!!!!! You suck. And don't come up with your "you insult me so I won't debate with you crap" sensitive idiota; who wants to debate with a crap for brain, ass kissing, no sense of self, fat ass seed of chunky, Quran thumbing slowpoke? Even Arabs don't like their religion ( Have you seen them leaving their countries?) By the millions crap hole, by the millions. Fuk you and suck it up once more bitch. Put Africa first before your religion or tribe and things will be a little better if not a lot better. Sucker master!!!!!! /

Shhhhhhhh don't say shit bitch, I said suck it up. Now flame all you want!!!!!!!! I don vex for this guy abeg!!! No offence to anyone else just this guy that thinks defending this religion without reading the Quran himself will help at all? If you believe Allah created this world, why can't you believe that Orumila created it too? Dumb mess!!!!!!

Your post was at 6.05 am and i think you dont live in north america, Did your mrs refuse you last nite in bed? Then u thought u should pick on lagosboy, abeg dont blow an artery cos of me o. I couldnt stop laughing at your post honestly it seemed like a joke to me.

Anyway relax and chill  out yeah , when u want to talk on real issues ranging from economy, border control, integration, defence, agriculure, commerce and trade, monetary policies and the workability of  a choesive AU then come back. If you also want to talk religion go to the islam section and talk on  it lots of people there to debate with you. Chill out bro life is too beautiful to get worked up like this!!!

The creation of Heavens and earth according to Allah is 6 days. Several verses of the quran attest to this.

I think you have also been asnwered by babs, This issue has been an around for tens of years and popular on answering islam. However it is either you take the explanation or you dont.

The verse you have quoted in Surah fussilat 9-12 let me quote it and then discuss inshallah

Say: "Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in two Days? and do ye join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds." He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm, high above it, and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in four Days, in accordance with (the needs of) those who seek (sustenance). Moreover, He comprehended in His design the sky, and it had been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the earth: "Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly." They said: "We do come (together), in willing obedience." So He completed them as seven firmaments in two Days and He assigned to each heaven its duty and command. And We adorned the lower heaven with lights, and (provided it) with guard. Such is the Decree of (Him) the Exalted in Might, Full of Knowledge.” (Fussilat: 9-12)

Every single commentator of the quran right from the early muslims understand the next four days to include the 2 days of the creation of the earth.

When Allah talked about the putting of mountains on the earth it was an extention to the 2 days of the creation of the earth and not addition to it. This one verse cannot contradict the 10 or so verses Allah talked about 6 days and it is not a contradiction in the least.

4 + 2 = 6

It is also imperative to understand that the days talked about in the quran cannot be termed to mean 24 hrs day we have as allah as used the words yawm or ayyam to refer to several thousand years as well. The duration of the day is known to him and him alone.

And God knows best

Na so we see am o. i no fit laugh tire

What of the one that claimed 18K for a bookshelf , the one that claimed for a non existent mortgage and even produced a bankstatement with a DD to his savings account and termed it the payment for mortgage . That is simply fraud and i am sure he will be prosecuted for it and might be jailed for 1 month oor two months. Jakie smith claimed for second home and was living in her sisters house, hazel blairs also. There is no saint among them i wonder what they will claim if they were in Nigeria they might be on the same page with Ibori.

Lagos allocation before the reccession was only about 2.1 - 3 billion naira while the IGR was about 10 billion.

Lagos is the only state in the country that can survive without the Oil revenue !!!!

Ibime Lagos can surely

Welcome sir , eku ojo meta o. Good to have u back bro. You were truly missed.

I think you are fast becoming a nuisance in this section and you should be checked ii guess. You have never posted anything intelligent since your first post. Even if you want to oppose or attack muslims at least do it with a degree of intelligence as people will take you serious. You could learn from your brothers here they might help you.

na dis kind thing dey happen when woman no fit hold her thing with her husband alone!!!!

This is where AC's money for expansion into southwest is comming from. Ojuyobo suppose chop nah. Fashola no fit stop am lai lai.

Frankly speaking i think if the money was like 5% it will be cool but 15% is just too much. However that 14 billion can never be generated if it was a govt parastatal generating it neva!!!!!!!!!!

JJYOU:
as the official spokes person of the NL islamic society i know you are very clever and brilliant but what i cant understand is you not dropping your religious garment for one moment.[/b]i am neraly 50 i should be able to say i dont do arabs. is that okay with you sir? by the way not all arabs are mole people.

lagosboy, are we united as a tribes, ethnic groups, state and country wide.  cant you see beyond religion for once?

It seems we are converging little by little. If you read my post well you will se my first action was why the fusion of religion into this matter and you say i am not dropping my religous garment. I am not one of those who cant see beyond and always hide behind their religion in constrcting arguements. My defence of islam comes into play when the author of the article levelled institutional racism at the doorstep of islam and not just arabs. I dont defend arabs but i defend islam if a lie is being postulated.
[b]
Arab is a race and islam is a faith, islam is a faith that transcends race.

The whole point of my posts was lets argue and debate based on a different matter and not based on rellgion and Arab dominance.

JJYOU:
have you asked yourself why the other african leaders who dont fully have a united country were not rushing to join nkrumahs AU vision.

is it not the same bunch of crooks who cant work OAU,  ecowas and others that you are going to operate the AU with?  or you are going to breed  a special set of beaurocrats for the AU project.

Now it seems the debate has just begun and this is what i am clamouring for, i can deduce from your point ur disagreement with the thing is based on the disunity in diversity of afrcians which is a very valid point and we can talk and tackle this point.

see wetin dey happen when woman no fit hold her thing to one man.

A mother of twins has had a shock after doctors revealed that her 11-month-old boys do not have the same father. Skip related content
Related photos / videos Mum's Shock At Twins With Different Dads Enlarge photo Mia Washington decided to get some expert advice when she and her partner noticed that twins Justin and Jordan had different facial features.

Paternity tests then revealed what had happened - two eggs had been fertilised by two different sperm and there was a 99.99% chance the twins had different dads.

Doctors at the DNA lab in Dallas, Texas had never seen such a result.

Mia later admitted she had had an affair and got pregnant by two different men at the same time.

She told TV channel Fox 4: "Out of all people in America and of all people in the world, it had to happen to me. I'm very shocked."

Clear Diagnostics president Genny Thibodeaux said: "It is very crazy. Most people don't believe it can happen, but it can."

Sky's health correspondent Thomas Moore explains: "A woman can release two eggs from her ovaries, and the eggs will remain viable for 24 hours after ovulation.

"Sperm can survive up to five days inside a woman's body, so a woman could sleep with different men several days apart, and get pregnant not once, but twice."

And while it sounds rare, recent research indicates that one in 12 non-identical twins are so-called bi-paternal, with a rise in fertility treatment and changing sexual behaviour being blamed.

Mia's partner James Harrison is father to one of the boys.

He told Fox 4 that he had forgiven his fiancee for having the affair and intended to raise both children as his own.

However, he admitted it had been tough discovering the truth.

"It's a day by day thing. It's going to take time to build the trust like we had," he said.

The couple plan to tell the twins they are half-brothers when they are old enough to understand.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090518/twl-mum-s-shock-at-twins-with-different-3fd0ae9.html
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090518/twl-mum-s-shock-at-twins-with-different-3fd0ae9.html

A mother of twins has had a shock after doctors revealed that her 11-month-old boys do not have the same father. Skip related content
Related photos / videos Mum's Shock At Twins With Different Dads Enlarge photo Mia Washington decided to get some expert advice when she and her partner noticed that twins Justin and Jordan had different facial features.

Paternity tests then revealed what had happened - two eggs had been fertilised by two different sperm and there was a 99.99% chance the twins had different dads.

Doctors at the DNA lab in Dallas, Texas had never seen such a result.

Mia later admitted she had had an affair and got pregnant by two different men at the same time.

She told TV channel Fox 4: "Out of all people in America and of all people in the world, it had to happen to me. I'm very shocked."

Clear Diagnostics president Genny Thibodeaux said: "It is very crazy. Most people don't believe it can happen, but it can."

Sky's health correspondent Thomas Moore explains: "A woman can release two eggs from her ovaries, and the eggs will remain viable for 24 hours after ovulation.

"Sperm can survive up to five days inside a woman's body, so a woman could sleep with different men several days apart, and get pregnant not once, but twice."

And while it sounds rare, recent research indicates that one in 12 non-identical twins are so-called bi-paternal, with a rise in fertility treatment and changing sexual behaviour being blamed.

Mia's partner James Harrison is father to one of the boys.

He told Fox 4 that he had forgiven his fiancee for having the affair and intended to raise both children as his own.

However, he admitted it had been tough discovering the truth.

"It's a day by day thing. It's going to take time to build the trust like we had," he said.

The couple plan to tell the twins they are half-brothers when they are old enough to understand.

JJYOU:
some africans would rather go into arab slavery than see with clear eyes in the name of defending thier religion. gadimafia has spoken out too loud before on this. anyone with an ounce of right thinking should be very afraid every time they hear him say the word AU.

i dont trust anything being led by an arab especially the dictator and unstable gadimafia .

Arabs themselves dont like Ghadaffi and even me despise him. The question here is not Ghadafii but the issue of this post is about arab, islam and blacks. Try to read the article (i know it is long and boring) but you will see it lacks any sense.

The AU thing is not a new thing and even Nkrumah of Ghana clamoured for it. We should be all matured to tackle issues intellectually and not spew uneccessary sentiments. Nigerians are more racists otherwise you will not say such a racialilay incited comment

JJYOU:
i dont trust anything being led by an arab

If the americans said this about Obama , we will all be shouting racism. If the yorubas said this to the ibos we will scream tribalism.
If the US could leave its entire middle eastern military command in the hands of an arab General Abizaid then your comments are unfortunate and perhaps you could realise and think about it again.

It seems we are just a bunch of insecure people thats all i can say , otherwise if we had confidence in our abilities as a black nation why do we fear arab minority dominance. the AU Ghadaffi is calling for he hasnt said he will be the leader and any leader of such entity will be decided by the whole countries so why the fear.

We should bring some intellgient analysis in oppossing the call and not this sentiments here this is my point. Personally i am against some aspects of the call and i can table my issues and lets all have a debate but not based on this religous cum historical sentiments.

the question is so ridiculous and lacks any intelligence.

Its like asking are yoruba women brainwashed? Are chinese women brainwashed?

Are jewish women brainwashed ?

The muslims here are no dummies neither are they foolish. Repect begets respect , if a questioner wants to ask a genuine question he knows how to ask it.

Asalam alaekum Abdul Hafeedh Kaifa haluk. Aina al madrassah ? Fiy Kuwait ?.

A muslim should pray 5 times as instructed by the prophet (PBUH) the meaning of the verses of quran relating to salah.

but who is this folami can u not expantiate on your points before writing such conclusions?

AjanleKoko:
The writer is Chinweizu. You may have heard of him. He's a popular Pan-Africanist, who's well-published. You might want to google him up.

The popluarity of a person is not a factor in intelectualism. Someone could be popular for idiotic works for all i care. the artcicle is so poor and shoddy. It lacked any intellectual depth of any form.

AjanleKoko:
I don't think the article is a direct assault against Islam per se, more against Arabs and some sort of Arab agenda against black people, Moslem or not. If I felt so, I would not even share it for discussion. It's possible Ghadaffi may have some wild ambitions to rule Africa and Arabia but the rest of the Arab world definitely can't stand him, and won't rally behind him, at least not today.
My intent wasn't to offend anyone. This article has been published in series in Businessday (in Nigeria) over the past eight weeks or so. I actually thought this would make for more interesting debate, rather than the usual 'Would you give up sex?' or some of the funnier stuff I see in the political section. This article I thought was touching on topics of a political nature. Notice he never quotes the Q'uran in any way, but he tries to examine historical events as it relates to Arabs.
Thanks.

He never quotes from the quran but he quoted false narrations of the prophet, attributing racism to him and highlighting his disgust for black people. This is the biggest insult on his personality and the symbol of a faith. If the narrations were correct it would have been different.

You mention historical events of the arabs and he quoted the works of ibn ishaq, Tabari and co without checking if the narrations mentioned in this books are authentic or not.
He referenced a shoddy website which is just a stab into intellectualism and i find it more worrisome that a national daily could publish the posts.

could he not analyse the issue of US of africa from a more rational view as to the useless conspirace theory of arabs and blacks. how many times have u seen arabs kill themselves apart from Iraq lately. Its always black on black i wonder who is behind this as well.

Ife people will kill modakeke bothe from the same state, urhobo will fight itshekiris both from the same state, hausas will fight the non hausas in plataeu and so on.


all i can say is shame on the author

Tudör:
@jay bee
shut up abeg! So because its Islam for muslims section we're not allowed to come here and expose the lies of the lying book quaran? Are your islamist brothers not posting in the other section?
If you dnt like us posting here,the go jump off a dome in mecca

Could you list the lies you have personally exposed on NL. I repeat ; you personally exposed abt islam on NL.

Tudör:
Why all the fuss about olabowale.just another bloody excuse for the islamists to cover their ignorance. . . . .why are you stupid?. . .ehnn,its because egbon olabowale our imam is not around. Bullshit!

Gentleman , respect yourself beacuse it seems all sense of civility and decorum has evaded you. No civil person will as a whole people such a rhetorical question.

Its getting really broing your antecedents here, you cannot come to this section and spill out insults upon insults. Once again respect yourself and act matured.

Salam Babs and jazakallah for your response again.

The link you posted above on sunni path i think just corroborated the explanation i gave ealier as regards the schools. Hanafi and Maliki says no and Hambali and Shafii says yes perform the salah.

The nawafil i am also referring to is the tahiyatul masjid and not just a general naflah as that is clearly not permissible and i thinkk i stated it in my earlier post as well. Here is extract from the answered question on sunni path.

Both the Hanbali and Shafi?i schools state that it is recommended for a latecomer to the Friday prayer to pray the 2 rakats for greeting the mosque even if the Imam is giving the khutba (Friday sermon). The Hanafi and Maliki schools however consider this to be an impermissible act.

The former two schools take as a basis for this ruling the hadith of Jabir ibn ?Abdullah found in Sahih Muslim that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said ?When of you comes on Friday and the imam has come out [to give the khutba] then let him pray two rakats?. In addition there is the hadith also related by Jabir ibn ?Abdullah that is found in sahih al-Bukhari that ?A man came whilst the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) was delivering the khutba on Friday so he said ?Have you prayed O so-and-so??. The man replied ?No?. The Prophet said ?Stand and pray two rakats?.

Despite the seemingly clear indication of the two aforementioned rigorously authenticated hadiths, the Hanafis and Malikis deemed it impermissible to pray during the khutba. They based this ruling on a number of considerations some of which are mentioned below. The followed discussion is largely taken from the two great commentaries on Sahih al-Bukhari; Faid al-Bari by Imam al-Kashmiri [2:238, Maktaba Haqqania] and ?Umdat al-Qari by Imam al-?Ayni [6:230, Bulaq].

Despite the above two hadiths, it is transmitted from the majority of the early Muslims from the Sahaba, including Umar, Uthman and Ali, and the Tabi?in that they did not deem it permissible to pray during the khutba. This was mentioned by Imam al-Nawawi in his commentary on Sahih Muslim quoting Qadi Iyad from his own commentary on Sahih Muslim, whilst Imam al-Nawawi only named ?al-Hasan al-Basri and others? from the early Muslims as following the Shafi?i opinion. [al-Minhaj Sharh Sahih Muslim ibn al-Hajjaj, 6: 400. Dar al-Ma?rifa] In addition, not praying during the khutba was the practice of the people of Madina [?amal ahl al-Madina] which is a mutawatir practical transmission from the Sahaba to the Tabi?in of Madina to the Tabi? al-Tabi?in upon which Imam Malik based his school.

The fact that the majority of the early community where not applying what is indicated by these hadiths does not mean that they were somehow going against the prophetic guidance. Rather it indicates that they understood from the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) that one was not to pray in that time, based on sayings of the Prophet and other considerations not all of which have necessarily been transmitted to us. This is why the practice of the early community is seen as a source of law in itself as their practice was a practical transmission of knowledge, just as their teaching hadiths was an oral transmission of knowledge.

The issue of the hadith narrated by Jabir i tried to explain here is a more detailed explantion from the site as well

.[b] Other versions mention that he was a very poor man and did not have decent clothes to wear to the Friday prayer, and in some versions he had hardly any clothing, so the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) told him to stand and pray so that everybody could see his poverty and give him some charity. Versions to this effect are mentioned in the Musnad and by Ibn Hibban in his sahih, Imam al-Tahawi and Al-Nasa?i in his sunan who mentioned this version under the heading ?urging to charity? seeing as it was the key lesson to be gained from the incident. Of these hadiths is the one mentioned by Al-Nasa?i from Abu Sa?id al-Khudri that ?a shabbily dressed man came on Friday and the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) was giving the khutba so the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) said to him ?Have you prayed?? He said ?No.? [The Prophet] said ?Pray two rak?ats?. The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) then urged people to give charity [during the khutba]. They gave the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) a number of items of clothing of which two were given to the man, ?[[/b]to the end of the hadith]

The various versions might seem contradictory as some indicate that the khutba had started, was paused for the man to finish praying and then continued, whilst others indicate that it had not yet started. Badr al-?Alam al-Mirtahi in al-Badr al-Sari a supercommentary on Faid al-Bari mentions that what must have happened, joining between the various versions, is that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) was seated on the pulpit about to deliver the khutba when the man walked in. Upon seeing his poverty stricken state he withheld from starting the khutba and told the man to pray so that everybody present would see him. He (Allah bless him and give him peace) waited for the man to finish and then started with the khutba in which he urged people to give in charity resulting in the man being given some items of clothing. As for the hadiths that mention that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) was delivering the khutba when the man came, the reporters of those hadiths must have meant that he was in the act of delivering the khutba in that he was on the pulpit and was just about to start, and this is a figurative usage of the verb ?he is delivering the khutba? [yakhtubu] that the Arabic verb can be used to indicate. [al-Badr al-Sari ila Faid al-Bari, 2:341, Maktaba Haqqania]

4.2 There are many hadiths that make mention of people coming late to the Friday prayer without any indication that they prayed two rakats to greet the mosque or were told to do so. These hadiths include the following:

i. Imam al-Bukhari relates on the authority of Abdullah ibn Umar that ?While Umar ibn al-Khattab was standing delivering the khutba on Friday a man from the first of the Emigrants from the companions of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) came in. So Umar called to him ?What hour is this?? He said ?I was busied so I did not return to my family until I heard the call to prayer so I did not do more than performing the ablution (wudu)? [Umar] said ?And ablution as well? And you know that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) used to enjoin performing the purificatory bath (ghusl).?

@ Abu zola ,

Fiqh is dynamic and interesting and when you study islam deeply especially fiqh you would appreciate the beauty and hardowrk of earlier scholars in tapping from ocean of knowledge to present us with all what we have today. Many issues in fiqh we have ikhtilaf (difference of opinion) and it has to be respected. In the field of hadith sciences it is we ignorant people that just read the hadith literally and make a judgement on it but in the field they look at many issues before making a rule out of it. The issues i am talking abt here is not even its authenticity as that is a diefferent subject in hadith sciences but issues like which duration did the prophet say this, are there any narration that says something opposite, how did the sahabas and early muslims understand this hadith, any quaric verse opposing it?,why exactly did the prophet say this , Was his statement circumstantial or was there a particular events preceding it and a host of other things.

This particular issue Imam Malik and Abu hanifa held on to the understanding of the early muslims and sahabas in making their ruling and also based on other hadiths and interpretaion of the hadih.

Wallahu a'lam

In as much as you are very correct regarding the use of Abdul before any name of Allah we bear, If anyone calls himsefl azeez of hafidh it is not strictly shirk.

The names of Allah in arabic we use what we call a universal mudof wa mudofilay e.g Al Hakeem, Al Fattah If the name is used in human context like Hafeedh it is not shirk cos it is in  human context and Allah himself called some of his prophet with those names and even some prophet called themselves that like Yusuf in surah yusuf he said " . . .inni hafidhun Alim" meaning i will protect with full knowledge

Now Allah is Al Alim the knowledgable and Yusuf used the name of Allah for him self in human context and not the universal mudofilay.

Allah in surah Tauba last verse (La qad jakum. . . .) called the rasul " [b]raufu Rahe[/b]em  " now these are two names of Allah He used for the Rasul  but it is also in human context and not of the universal connotation of Ar Raheem.

Lukman (AS) is called Hakeem (wise one) , these is also in human  form and not of the universal form.

In arabic when people are called hakeem it simply means the sage and not referring to Allah.

Having said all these it is still better to use abdul before your name as it is showing full humility to your creator of being his servant. The points abve is just to enlighten our minds as some poeple accuse those bearing those names of shirk which could negate thier islam but the issue is not that narrow and  wider than they think.

I hope my comments will not be misinterpreted. I myself use abdul.

Wallahu A'lam

This post is just a garbage shit long piece of lazy intellectual analysis and an armchair write up. No intellectual will sit down and reference useless websites that any fool can put up on the internet.

The reference to islam is just sickening and the notion that the prophet preached arab superiority atr the expense of blacks is just one of the most nonseical things i have read in recent times. Somone posted a garbage like this yesterday on the islam section and had to even apologise when his lazy analysis were exposed.

Citing Tabari, ibn ishaq as sources for the traditions is not just ridiculous but it shows the authors long distance from the understanding of islamic source of jurispundence. Ibn sina is not a an islamic religous schola but a notable muslim scientist cum philosopher of blessed memory.

the inclusion of Ghadafii of nursing an arab islamic agenda is just crazy. Ghaddaffi is seen by millions f muslims as an unserious muslim and some dont even consider him a muslim. He his not religous in the least and the notion that every arab is a religous muslim is just false. Kwame Nkrurumah of Ghana called for the same US of Africa in the 50's and Ghaddaffis call is not new. Intellectuals should disagree based on real issues like economy bottleneck, cultute , language and other things not on shodddy consipairacy theories like this.

I cant even take the pain to fault this garbage paragraph by paragraph is just dont have the time. the author should bury his head in shame!!!!

Nigeria police force is the most corrupt govt entity in Nigeria, those men in black have dark barins and dark hearts that cannot be illuminated except by disbanding and overhauling that force.