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Me thinks the rev is spot on!! They will not let him talk to Wright, the fear of the jews is the begining of wisdom in US politics!!!

I am elated to hear the news is untrue and the product of extended and protracted hallucination of Gov Akpabio of Akwa ibom. Our leaders are perpetual liars, they lie every single second without giving a hoot about public opinion about them. These men are not honourable people and dont deserve to live among the good Nigerian people, the zoo should be their abode where they will be sent to the abyss of extinction.

Thanks for your concern bro.

Non muslims could visit the mousques but what the verses meant is the maintenance of the mosques should not be by mushirks but by muslims. The quraish use to give water to the pilgrims and so on during hajj but surah tauba was revealed during hajj of the 9th year of hijra a year before the prophets last hajj. When the first verses came the prophet sent Ali RA with the ayahs from medina to mecca with the staff of the prophet and he kept on reciting the verse : "Q 9 v 1 Freedom from obligation (is proclaimed) from Allah and His messenger toward those of the idolaters with whom ye made a treaty."

At that time the idolators used to take care of the haram and some of the use to parade the haram naked during hajj which was one the reasons the prophet AS never attended that hajj and Abu bakr led the muslims to hajj that year.

Q9 v17 i know some translators have translated it as the verse you quoted like yusuf Alli " it is not for the idolators to visit the masjid of Allah" but i think the correct translation is " it is not for the idolators to maintain the mosues of Allah" this is the muhsin Khan and Pikthall translation. In arabic the verse goes " ma kana lil mushrikinna an ya'muruw masjidili haram" . That word visit in arabic is ziyarah and doesnt appear in that verse. That word ya'muruw is a third party reference which is the mushirks and the meaning will be best translated as to take care/maintain or look after in my opinion and not visit.

The prophet accepted jews in the mousque and the revealation of surah kahf (story of the companions of the cave) was as a result of one of the questions the jews of medinah asked the prophet in order to accept he his a true prophet. That questioning was in the mosque.

It is also not haram to eat the food of a the christians as the quran states it clear in surah maidah surah 5 that lawful is the food of the people of the book if they offer you. The Kosher meat of the jews we can eat as it is the same principle of the halal meat we eat.

On gov oyinlola praying in the mosque that is just political jargon i will say. The imams should know better and told him to stay at the back observe and after the salah come foward to speak with the congregation if that is his intention.

Wallahu a'lam

Sah

We seek refuge with Allah the almighty from Jahanam!!!!!

What other things can their brain accommodate apart from new techniques of thieving. The politics of Nigeria is just comedy extravaganza.

I have said on this forum not once but twice that Ibn Ishaq and Atabari are not authorities in the field of islamic jurispudence or aqeedah. A tabari of blessed memory works were mainly research work meant for scholars to validate . It contained many un verified stories and he himself acknowledged it and left the verification and authentication of those works to scholars. Same goes to ibn ishaq. It was this same works theat i think it was TUdor quoted and he eventually apologised for it.

The books of authenticated history like ibn kathir's "A bidaha wa nihayah" is a very good one it means "the begining and the end" . A tabaris books on histroy are meant for scholars and not people like you and me, just like a published science paper in scientific journals are not meant for the layman but people of strong scientifc knowledge.

The prophet never recieved any inspiration from satan and there is no quranic verse or authentic hadith that says contrary.

The hadith you quoted in bukhari is authentic but i dont understand how it butresses your claim. Surah najm has a verse in it that when we recite we have to prostrate and that was what happened the prophet AS did and those that were with him followed suit.

Later on the verses were edited/abrogated to now read what is in today's quran.

The quran has never been edited, abrogated verses in the quran have remained in the quran as compiled in the time of the prophet. What you have stated here is absolute malicous falsehood

Qur'an 22:52, Dawood
Never have We sent a single prophet or apostle before you with whose wishes Satan did not tamper. But God abrogates the interjections of Satan and confirms His own revelations.

Now Questions:
If satan could mislead Allah's prophet into thinking he was speaking the mind of Allah, Does there exist a  probability that Satan could have decieved him about the entire quran ?

If such propability exist (no matter how insignificant it is) What does it  portend for islam?

One thing you should note here is Allah was talking about the earlier prophets AS and not the prophet muhammed AS. You should also read the translation below for better understanding

" Q22 v 50 Never sent We a messenger or a prophet before thee but when He recited (the message) Satan proposed (opposition) in respect of that which he recited thereof. But Allah abolisheth that which Satan proposeth. Then Allah establisheth His revelations. Allah is Knower[b][/b]," Pikhtal translation

What the verse simply means is that the devil always tampers with the message of God in misleading people. This exists in all the abrahamic faiths. Verses are always twisted to suit individualities but Allah says the main message of islam - the Quran he will protect till the day of judgement.

Islam's message is simple - Come to the submission to the will of your creator, associate not any partners with him and accept all the prophets including Muhammed, Jesus , Moses , Abraham , Davis Peace be on them all. Believe in the Angels, Believe in destiny, Beleieve in the books (message of the earlier prophets and not neccassaily the bible or torah we have today),Believe in the Last day and Believe in the day of reckoning.

If you accept all these then alihamdulilah your a muslim.

davidylan:
Is a good jinn similar to an angel?

A good example is the devil, in Islam shaiytan was never an angel but he was a jinn Surah Kahf 18 vs 60 states it .

Angels do not have a free will and they cannot disobey God but jinns are just like humans as they have free wills to choose between good or bad,

Very true indeed and words of wisdom from a noble personality.

Muslims who also make dua should also bare in mind that when you make a dua and your a striving muslim and you feel your dua is not been accepted. Dua are accepted in three ways
1. The dua answered instantly
2. The dua is used to block unforseen calamities the muslim doesnt even know about
3. The dua is preserved for some great reards in paradise.

Also sometimes the delay in dua is termed by scholars as the lowest form of expiation of sins. (Inshallah when i have some more free time i will write on the subject of forgiveness and expiation of sins).

The muslim should never give up on dua and like Allah said in Surah a'raf " ud'u rabbahu khawfan wa tam'an" Call on your lord in fear and hope.

Surah baqara from vs 154- 157 , istainu bi sabri wa salah, innallah ma'a sabirin. . . . Seek prayer in patience and perseverance.

Dua is the sole weapon and sword of a believer and we should all hold on to it. It opens doors that seems to be close and Allah loves a slave that totally relies on him for everything by making dua always. May Allah forgive our sins, expiate them and may He accept our duas.

Egbon Olabs pls leave thi dude to his noise abt Asiya so we could keep the thread relevant. If he really wants he will start a new thread on Asiya.

davidylan:
Jarus i dont think you're being fair or honest at all. What exactly do you mean by non-muslims being welcome to ask "sincere" questions?

The other day i "sincerely" asked that a few muslims prove to me that Asiya (as mentioned by mohammad WITHOUT PROOF) ever existed as a queen in Egypt. Despite providing plenty of counter evidence . . . it was removed SWIFTLY and i was banned for the day. So what really are "sincere" questions and what is "trouble"? Daring to ask that muslims provide evidence for their historical claims is = trouble?

I think a lot of threads die here because muslims dont have answers to the questions and are afraid of learning the truth. There are swarms of atheists on our section AND YET its way more alive than this place.

If any sincere person read this very successful thread , one thing is a fact davidylan has been absent and it was successfull. First post by you and it is another controversial and irrelevant Asiya issue, i was banned bla bla bla you are bring up. Moderator pls delete his comment and lets keep the thread sane.

mukina2:
Lagosboy

I hardly have time to reply their goading posts, but i had to set the record straight.

They never take blames for the things they do , always blaming mods or the admin for being banned or for posts deleted.

I feel you mukinah, they play the victims card to gain sympathy, i just hate it when he succeeds in wrecking havoc to the threads. Anyway wonderful UPlawal our sister Ni'motallah has found a beuatiful name

Nimotallah would be best translated in english as God's FAVOUR in my humble opinion but let me double check .

It is a beautiful name i must say as God has bestowed the best favour he can on you which is islam. May Allah bless the name for you.

It is 100% hallal and accepted in islam. The prophet's (PBUH) wife Khadija RA proposed to him and she was 40 while he was 27. She was impressed with his impeccable character and honesty.

Another of the prophets wife proposed to him as well i just cant remeber her name right now.

There is nothing wrong in it in islam and we should care less about what the society says about it. If you fancy a man go for it with full confidence and dignity.

hydroking23:
Its a very interesting read. My question is regarding Islam, Judaism and Christianity.

Why is it that neither Judaism nor Christianity predict the coming of another prophet who will redefine or reestablish a new or revised doctrine of God?

Mohammed is regarded as the Seal of Prophets or the last prophet of God, yet his coming was never predicted or spoken of from Judaism or Christianity. Yet the Hewbrew Prophets predicted the coming of Jesus and Jesus predicted the coming of False prophets after him. So why don't any of these doctrines tell us about the coming of a new doctrine(Islam) or a new/last Prophet(Mohammed)?

The docrines did but when the prophet came they did not accept him partly because he never arose from the jewish tribes rather he arose from the arabs. Just the same way the jews never accepted Jesus despite the numerous prophecies about him in the old testament.

There are several verses in the bible muslims believe made specific references to prophet Muhammed (PBUH ) and there are several threads here to that regards . I will not derail this topic but will search for the links for you and post it here for you to read.

Its just a shame davidylan achieved some of his aims on this thread again. The thread has been convenietly diverted into something else.

My fellow bros and sis please its better to ignore most of irelevant comments rather than reply to them. Like Muhsin always says replying to them is helping achieve the aims of the trol in oyb's words.

$osisi:
risi[b]cat[/b]
hali[b]fat[/b]
siki[b]rat[/b]

depending on which ending suits you,cat,rat or fat

Madam u don kolo finally , shey na our beautiful women u cum dey mess with all these names??

In arabic those names in pronounciation do not end with the letter t. The t is silent, it is called tah marubutah in arabic and it is pronounced e.g Risk[b]ah[/b] , Lateef[b]ah[/b], Rashid[b]ah[/b]

Why do people dig out such old topics and post on them The poster was even last active in 2006

MRbrownJAY:
i might open a joint account with a wife but she will never get as high as what i have with my parents.
do you expect me to void a lifetime of trust that i have for my parents for some woman i know for a few yrs?!
they are not on the same level. can never compare the two, different ball game. a wife i can loose, a wife can betray me, a wife can suddenly hate me, the love a wife gives me can never be as high as the love i get from my parents, NEVER.
and i expect her to feel exactly the same about her parents.

I dey feel u jare . Many people dont like to face reality and base things on emotions. Yes marriage is to bring two people together and you can entrust some money with your wife no doubt but from the posters question it seems like the bulk of the money. As long as your wife has enough for her to live on and the kids will not suffer, the excess cash or investment you could entrust in your mum.

"till death do us part" thousands of people say this every day in religious marriages and civil as well but thousands of divorce proceedings are handled by courts at the same time. That is the reality of the world we live in. A wife could be changed a mother can never be replaced. A good mother will never betray the fruit of her womb, a good mother will always remain when everyone has left you in times of trials. This is the same woman tha laboured hard to bring you up to a stage that your wife could admire you and marry you. If your wife grew up she would expect the same from your son, Its a cycle no one loses out. The wife today is a mother tommorrow. When i look at how women suffer to cater for children , sleepless nights and crazy routines I myself will curse my son if he doesnt place his mother above everything in life including myself.

All said within the context of having a good mother which we all understand !!!

oyb:
1) @ op, you need to work on your technique etal if sex is not something madam looks forward to, she will never be interested . . .

2) u need to also understand that you need to do things that will er put your wife in the mood. the fact that you are married is not automatic open sesame. small small toasting and those things that make her feel loved and not a sex object

3) she may also be tired from work etal ; on her feet all day at work, then home to cook and do dishes - and still be expected to perform between the sheets - i don't know whats going down in your house, but you may need to share some of the chores - women who feel used are not inclined towards getting it on

4) i don't know if it will be any help or not, theres a book called graet sex guide by anne hooper - i think her name is - which may be some help

5) pregnancy works differently with diff women. some get heightened sex drives; for others , it is a libido killer . you may have to er resort to self service for the duration of her pregnancy and beyond

Oyb na pro for this game o. Make i come take lessons bro

na end of story be dat o . Go back to your papa house with your bastard.

Bim4u:
Am sure u're a christian and read your bible very well,if yes
U know if u chase her out,u can't get married and if you date someone else then ur commiting adultery,learn to forgive her.

So a man with a wife that commits adultery every night has no solution to his problem? He is stuck with her for life If he chases her out he cannot marry again I am sure marriage is not this complicated.

foye57:
honestly, this is one question i silently ask myself everytime n i always tell my girl, thats one thing i would never forgive a woman for. however, when one is married, its a diff ball game. esp when kids are involved. r u gonna throw ur wife out with two or three kids?what excuse are u gonna give ur kids for throwin their mama out if u decide to keep the kids?when u r married, the situation wud hav to be handled more carefully.

You have some point, one has to even conduct DNA to know if the kids are for the man.

I seek refuge with God from having a cheating wife.

nuzo:
With this "achievement", one cannot imagine the smiles on the faces of the gullible bunch in their constituencies who dont have any school in sight to go to.

Shame on those clueless reps.

I think the guy said he started the project since 1984, lets give him a break as long as the source of the money is not state embezzled money. The source should be scrutinised.

JJYOU:
lets hope she doesnt plant a bomb there. by the way why dont you fornicating men get a hijab?

I do have respect for you but you have lost it all now , I swear. Your a matured person and this sarcastic comment is pregnant with hatred. It is really not needed and you could show humility by acknowledging it was needless and you withdraw it.

Deep Soul:
I'm sure Fashola will loot as well as work hard.

He'll just be smart enough to create a balance in favour of the latter

Of course he will, there is no polotician today who will not. His boss looted and looted so why would he not.

I cant understand how some mothers act, keep her daughter away from the man they handed her over to.

Dude does the wife have a father? and what was his contribution to this mess.

I personally would not take such a wife back as it seems she was even happy the mother was dead otherwise why rush back when her husbands mother died and another girl in the corridor

What kind of ambomination is this. I seek refuge with God from this kind of disgusting thing.

Sleeping with the wives mother!!!!!
kai shit dey dis world sha

FL Gators:
1. I assume that no woman with good paying job would marry into a polygamous family, therefore, na the dependent woman who would do say.

Not neccessarily true, I have seen loads of women with good jobs and good business become 2nd wives. Even here in the UK i have seen women become 2nd wives and not for anything financial. In Nigeria i used to know a lady with a fabulous career but no husband and when she hit the age of like 34/35 she chose to become a 2nd wife and happily married for the last 10 yrs with no regrets.

I also know of a British lady that wanted to marry a someone i know as a 2nd wife and she was probably richer than him.

What many women here fail to realise is as long as there are women willing to be 2nd wives , nothing will eradicate polygame and the truth is from now till eternity there will be women all over the world willing to marry a married man. Lets face reality and accept the harsh truth.

MrCrackles:
Match don finish?

brashy abeg where i fit watch this game nah?

Does anyone know which channel anyone in the UK could watch this game?? Ait intl seems not to be showing the game as it is not in their sky shcedule on TV

The four greatest women to walk the surface of the earth are:

Asiya: the believer wife of pharouh who was matryed while holding firm to her faith in the ost difficult of circumstances
Maryam: The beloved mother of Jesus an embodiement of piety and faith
Khadijah: The noble woman who stood by the prophet AS during the toughest of times in Makkah , aruguably the first follower of muhammad AS
Fatimah: the beloved daughter of the prophet who was also the first to join him ust 6 months after his death.


You could name yourself with any of these names and pray Allah grants u the good qualites of these noble women and may you join them in jannah.

JJYOU:
lagos boy stop defending the indefensible which God does a man dipping his thing into different wells fear? does it make sence to you that a human being that says he fears God will have 2 or more wives? i cant believe in this day and age you guys still advocate this early grave mind set.

dont you see the back wardness, wickedness and evil this lifestyle has on any society that practice it?. can ia sk why you as woman think this is well said? what is well in anyone doing the rounds passing you know what about?

The same God Abraham who had two wives feared, the same God Solomon who had 1 thousand feared, the same one David who had several feared, the same one many of the prophets of God who had several wives feared.

Polygamy is no backwardness but the reality and practical solution to the excess women in our midst. Our fore fathers practised it, it was pratcised in europe, asia, middle east and alomost all regions of the world.

yeswecan:
The problem is not the extremist but the "Islamic Ideology". In real sense, extremists should represent the far end of the belief. Taliban and their cronies represent the doctrine its self. Just like a Christian extremist will never agree to same sex marriage and abortion. The Islamic extremist involves terrorism, women molestation, marrying of different wives and so on; this is the far end of the Islamic concept. No speech can change extremism.

An extremist stands for the belief its self; this is very easy to understand.

Obama can give 100 speeches in a day, nothing changes

Firstly no one has said his speech will change extremism. What evryone hails is his retracing back the dierectional steps of the US govt. The bully nature, the humilating comments of Bush and so on.

I dont think you have much knowlege of the islamic faith and you could study more before you make comments like the boldened one. The talk of marrying more than one wife as extremism sums it all up. The talk of Taliban representing the mainstream islamic doctrine is also laughable, well the major issue we have with the taliban is women education and every SINCERE INTELLECTUAL knows the stance of islam on women educaion.

There is nothing wrong in it. A woman can be a second wife.

See all these women saying no it is wrong , why should a woman settle for less blah blah blah.

Have you all asked yourself why thousands of Nigerian girls date married men?, Have u asked yourself why women are in no short supply for married men, Have you asked yourself how tuface would have 5 kids from 5 women and thousands of girls still want to sleep with him??

We humans dont like to face reality and practicality of life. Even in the west many married men have mistresses, whyy are these mistresses dating the married men. Why does Berlusconi of Italy have several girls aside his enstranged wife??

Hypocriciy is rife in our hearts and we love to shy away from the truth. Many women here on NL will happily walk put their fingers for Donald Duke or other state governors to marry them. Women love money , fame and power and that is a fact of life till eternity.

There is nothing eveil about polygamy if practised sincerely with the fear of God.