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Governor Ugwuanyi is a huge joke! Look at the pace of development in Ebonyi State, yet Enugu is all about inanities. Who did Enugu State offend?

The funny thing with this suspension tussle is that the Oshiomole group has inadvertently conferred legitimacy to the APC Ward/State Executives that suspended him ab initio.

Lol, this pastor na real clown. There is no difference between Ize-Iyamu and Obaseki. Both are opportunistic defectors.

No sir, in most developed countries, politics is not just about numbers/interest, party ideology is also very important. It is only in Nigeria and other shitty developing countries that you would see an aspirant switch from a socially progressive party to a conservative one, within a few days. What happens to all the Obaseki ‘s critique of PDP policies and programs in the past? Of course, neither the PDP apparatchik nor the masses gives a hoot about these things. And that’s why after two decades of return to democratic rule, Nigeria is still stumbling with simple things like organizing credible elections.

sofat:
Politics all over the world is a game of number and interest. Every political party wants a worthy candidate who can pull massive votes among the electorates. So wisdom says you take an elephant to replace an ant.

Nigerian politics is such a huge joke. No party ideology whatsoever. So, besides Obaseki, the PDP has no other qualified candidate to present for the election?

You have a point; the game plan is to render the APC useless in the forthcoming Edo State gubernatorial election. One consequence of the just aforesaid is that Adam Oshiomole traducers would end up holding him responsible for the sad state of affairs. Adam Oshiomole should just pray that the APC does not lose Edo State, otherwise his days as a political juggernaut in the party would be over.

emexc11:
That Obaseki is no longer a member of the APC is not contestable.
But know it now that Oshiomole has finally succeeded in handing over the governorship structure of Edo state to PDP on a platter of gold because all those actions taken by him as the national chairman will be null and void there by invalidating the candidacy of anybody that APC will present.
Who is speaking when God has not spoken?

The APC is so disorganized that it is unsurprising why the country is in such a mess. The ruling party is hell-bent on self-destroying itself.

Doctor Clown, who told you that I am a medic? I don’t have to be one to call you out. Please, reading your write-ups here can give one migraine . So, stop this your shitty talk about grammar usage. Doctor, what the hell is “cream de la crop”? Although, I subtly corrected your poor syntax in my last response, you seemed too slow-witted to have noticed.

DoctorATTA:
“ you, my dear man is definitely not a cream of the crop material “
CHAAAIIIIIIII

You Cannot even speak proper English. ( it is you my friend are not a cream of the crop material).

jealousy brings out the worst in people Oooo down to bad grammar .

I am not even calling my self cream de la crop and I have no research to boast off I have nothing to brag about however I can appreciate others why can’t you??

Atleast you can spell mediocre. It is the only thing you know how to say right.

To make it short and simple, I don’t need my medical degree to tell that you are a lousy doctor with no empathy or kindness to your patients.

Eventually you will tell me what is biting you that you cannot celebrate others achievements.
Envy, jealousy and resentment is all you display here from A to Z

CONGRATULATIONS DR IHIM
LET IT PAIN YOUUUUUUUU THERE

Doctor, you are such a terrible mediocre. For sure, the Johns Hopkins University hires only the crème de la crème. However, going by your writing/train of thought as displayed here; you, my dear man is definitely not a cream of the crop material anywhere intellectual acuity is a sine qua non. That’s ostensibly why you are so ecstatic about a five years old article that is yet to make any discernible impact in the medical field.

Doctor, my responses to you are opportunities for further exposition of your pigheadedness. By the way, my accomplishment is neither the subject of discourse here nor your business. Only a clown with an unbelievable low self-esteem will go around a public forum trying to impress strangers with his so-called professional title or be posting with alternate monikers that were registered between yesterday and today. Nonetheless, be rest assured that in whatever I do, mediocracy is an absolute anathema. Finally, I do not envy or resent Dr. Ihim. I am simply calling a spade a spade. Nothing more, nothing less.

DoctorATTA:
I thought you were not going to respond anymore??

Tells me how desperate you are to prove relevance.

It pains you that someone other than yourself is doing well.

Typical villager mentality.

The man has done something in a reputable university JOHNS HOPKINS.

A university that only works with the cream de la crop.

A university that u no fit set foot inside.

Do you even know the full details about why he isn’t the first author? Is it everyone that can be first author in the same research?

Why take away from our countryman’s contribution?

You are here yapping and eating groundnut and gossiping about others instead of doing your own or supporting them.

How ever Little or not YOU think it is, you should still be proud that we are doing things globally.

I suspect personal resentment FULLSTOP.

Go and do your own contribution in medicine and stop talking nonesense to down play others just because they no Dey here with you.

JEALOUSSY TO THE FULLEST

Chai, the fact that a “doctor” can come up with this level of drivel beggars’ belief. Nonetheless, I decided to respond to you one more time because you sure don’t know shit about what you are yapping about.

I repeat, what the hell is “big academic institutions to portal articles”? Doctor, university libraries in developed countries subscribe to journals for the university community every year. Once, you are a registered student or a faculty member, your access to these journals is automatic. Although, academic network sites like the ResearchGate et al you previously mentioned share articles freely, but that does not confer any validation whatsoever to the articles shared via these platforms. Doctor, you can upload and share whatever crap you want on the ResearchGate, etc.

According to you, “Also the institutions like Johns Hopkins handle all monetary matters That they sponsor, so dr ihim and his research co authors must not have paid for the publication in reality.” Doctor, that’s not how it works. Payment of the APC is the decision/responsibility of the Research Center/Group in the institution where the study was undertaken. In fact, it is usually the responsibility of the Principal Investigator who secured the fund for the study to decide whether an APC should be paid or not. Your argument that “American based institutions like Johns Hopkins is paying, then it would be in dollars” is non sequitur. Common sense should tell you that the authors paid the USD equivalent of the £1570.0 APC. That is, USD 2170.0 according to the journal.

Why are you upset, you asked? I am upset that people like you, who go round shouting I am a “doctor” at every given instance are lowering the academic achievement bar, thereby promoting mediocrity in the Nigerian academic institutions. Dr. Ihim you are here chest-beating for is not even the main author in the article. Doctor, stay away from propaganda and unnecessary hype.

Your comment that I should “Go and repent and stop speaking Ill on notable accomplishments just because you cannot do the same” is very laughable. Doctor, in my research area, my peers know me. Let’s leave it at that.

DoctorATTA:
If you do not comprehend what it means for big academic institutions to portal articles in order to make them accessible to their medical students and other HCP and faculty, then you clearly hold no credibility or authoritative value when discoursing matters of academic research.

Bringing the good lord into a debate doesn’t mean you are correct and if you do proper investigation you would know that BMC accepts both pounds and dollars and if an American based institution like Johns Hopkins is paying, then it would be in dollars so get your facts straight.

Also the institutions like Johns Hopkins handle all monetary matters That they sponsor, so dr ihim and his research co authors must not have paid for the publication in reality.
You are clueless and assumptive in your statements and that reveals personal resentment.
What are you upset about?

I ask again.. are you sure you are not just being envious and blabbing words that are yet incorrect??

Please spare us the excuses, you are no longer able to respond because u are clearly dumbfounded with facts thrown your way that you didn’t see coming.

Go and repent and stop speaking Ill on notable accomplishments just because you cannot do the same.

This will be my last response to you because you seem to thrive in blissful ignorance. The fact that you are unaware that Wikipedia is not a valid reference speaks volumes. Doctor, anybody can create a Wikipedia Page! What the hell is "the article was ported by those reputable research sites"? By the way, I gave you the BMC Nursing article publishing charge (APC) in British Pounds because this journal is published in the United Kingdom

Finally, you sound silly suggesting that I am envious of Dr. Ihim. Doctor, I do not have any reason to be envious of anybody. This is because the good Lord has been very kind to me, and I am deeply contented.

DoctorATTA:
Well let my Nigerian doctor self enlighten you abit.
Google this Gent’s work and you would see that it was conducted in THE Johns Hopkins University which is the best hospital in the world. That automatically sets it apart from average.
Furthermore Only a few references were made on Wikipedia’s nasogastric intubation site and his own was one of them for a reason.

I never said that it was simultaneously published. Go and read my English I said it was ported by those reputable research sites. They include NCBI, Johns Hopkins elsevier, research gate, the list goes on.

Lastly, nasogastric intubation is not a popular topic and is certainly not as popular as the topics of the publications of the other brilliant Nigerian professors that you just listed, so keying in on citation numbers is not a fair means to measure the scholastic nature of this publication.
How many topics are written regarding nasogastric intubation? Not much!!!

Why can’t you just be excited that your fellow country man is doing well as opposed to doing yahoo
Or is it simply a matter of envy??
Judging from your tone I cannot help but suspect the latter!!!
OOO by the way they use dollars in United States not pounds.

A very good input from you, thanks. There is nothing groundbreaking about the study reported in this journal article. This is probably while it had only one citation since 2015. The payment of Open Access Fee for journals is a bit controversial; though both sides of the argument have valid points. And to the Igbo Amaka crew, you guys should go get a life! You lots should stop bringing tribalism to every issue.

2fine2fast:
Congratulations Dr Ihim.

However, Nairaland is supposed to be an educative platform like the likes of Reddit, Quora, etc. And I will continue to view it as such.
Thus, permit me to educate interested fellows and upcoming scientist in my own little way.
1. A search of the article on "google scholar", a search engine dedicated for academic publications showed that
the study was done in 2015. So can someone kindly tell me the media hype surrounding the publication 5 years
after?
2. The principal investigator of the research was Murad Bani Hani, being listed as the first author. Our compatriot is
the second author. In scientific research, and i would like to believe in all other types of researches, the main credit of
the work is given to the first author who most atimes carried out the main part of the study.
3. Furthermore, the journal in which the study was published " BMC Nursing" is a low-tier journal in the circle of serious
scientific publications. It has no real "Impact Factor" which is usually the Clarivate Analytics ranking of the impact of
journals. I for once would not consider publishing my work in such journals. In addition BMC journals are not well-indexed,
researches are considered to be valuable when they are placed in top-indexed, peer-reviewed journals published by Nature,
Elsevier, Springer, ACS , RSC, sometimes MDPI, and a few others I cannot recollect now.
4. In addition, the journal attracts a publication fee. This is a well-known trait of predatory journals which is considered an
ethical issue in academics. Why would i carry out a cutting edge research and still pay money to inform the scientific community
about it. Here in my faculty, all research published in paid journals raise concerns as it is believed they did not undergo rigorous
peer review which is the hallmark of scientific communication.

Like i said earlier, this post is only meant to educate and not to vilify. It is also meant for the perusal of upcoming scientist in Nigeria.
All through my study in NG, we never had this basic orientation. We came to better environment and realised that we knew close to
nothing of the real scientific world and had to handle around for a while before we got our footings. An article like this making the headline
and being celebrated on an important platform such as this underscores our knowledge as a country, which is a source of concern for
serious Nigerian researchers scattered around the world. Sometimes ago, it was some people celebrating the sequencing of the COVID-19
genome, by Ghana and Nigeria respectively, these are not scientific feats, they are mere routine laboratory tasks.

In all, lets top celebrating mediocrity as a people as it undermine the respect other nationals have for us. I use this opportunity to pay my respect
to indefatigable Nigerian Researchers doing their nation proud in various laboratories and research institutions scattered all over the world.
Thanks.

If Trump is suffering from mid-stage dementia, then Joe Biden's dementia is in the last stage . The reality is that it doesn't matter whether Trump or Biden became the next POTUS; the current cycle of political bullshit will continue in the USA for a while.

Abbeybailey:
Trump is in mid stage dementia that killed his Father Fred and his Grandfather. Dementia is hereditary and that's why he slurs his words and lies constantly. You don't know what the heck you are talking about. Yours truly will vote on Nov 3rd and i dare you to say the same thing. Bye.

Don't waste your time, this guy is a closet tribalist.

FortuneDeGreat:
Another thing, you're a pure hypocrite, you never would ever wish her the best.
It's simply a vast contrast to your real intent.
Hearts of men are evil.

The building had to be demolished completely because the previous government abandoned its maintenance for four years? Nawaa for Nigerian politicians.

This is an interesting development. If the Social Media Giants are left uncontrolled, partisanship in influencing public opinion would evolve in a way similar to what is obtainable in traditional media outlets. Now, the Social Media Giants would be compelled to fact-check everybody, big or small.

Please, stop this bullshit narrative. Whichever way you look at it, it is senseless for Abacha to warehouse Nigerian emergency funds in countries that were active participants in the sanctions imposed on the country. The reality is that Abacha, through his close acquaintances was simply feathering his own nest.

Exc2000:
Nigeria was sanctioned and couldn't trade oil in open market, Abacha deviced a perfect plan to make our oil buyers pay into private accounts of his associates like Issa Bagudu, and the Defense Minister among others.. the money was then used to buy needed commodities Nigeria needed so that we don't die of poverty and starvation... and Since he died all of a suden everybody started laying claims on the money

Some of you guys are irredeemably silly that it beggars belief!

Jibsy203:
Afonjas and fraudster are like 5&6

Yes, there is nepotism (connection/networking) everywhere. However, unlike in Nigeria/Nigerians, these things are subtly carried out. For example, in-house employment opportunities need to be advertised irrespective of the fact that a candidate may have already been penciled down for the advertised position. I am surprised that Akin would have allowed these lapses. Nonetheless, I hope he survives this and is re-elected. He is one Nigerian that has made us proud in recent times.

angelfallz:
if i'm to be honest, the so called allegations aren't serious. There is nowhere in the world where there is no favouritism. Trump the president of the USA, appointed his daughter and son-in-law to positions of power.
A Nigerian is head of the AFDB, it is normal that he would favour Nigeria, why do you think countries fight over such things. Countries fight over such things because of what they stand to gain.

Fraudulently awarding contracts is a serious one for me.

Chris Ngige is not opportunistic? You must be kidding. A man that hobnobbed with the illiterate Chris Uba, to the extent of swearing an oath at a shrine in order to become the state governor is not opportunistic? Chris Ngige is amoral and opportunistic as the rest of the Nigerian political class.

OutharryHIV:
That's not right sir.. The Nwabueze I know is not opportunistic neither does he go back on his words.
I have spoken with a lot of politicians and none has come close to this man in morals, responsibility and standing on the truth.. let us not use the yardstick of "politicians" to judge individual character

Chris has been with the APC right from when it was just Ac- Action Congress.. He has been devoted and loyal to the party ever since.. You won't hear him brag about it or try to hustle for juicy positions.. He is just calm and calculating.

He was on his own when he was called to become a minister and he never argued for a better portfolio.. He is not just the regular politician.

Despite his level of education, he is unable to rise above his deeply-ingrained ethnic bigotry. Nevertheless, in a sane country, Dr. Ogbonnaya Onu would be forced to step down, if the allegation of undue interference is true.

Urchman200:
u can't make ur comments without mentioning tribe bigot?

Dave Umahi's achievements in Ebonyi State is making Sam Egwu and Martin Elechi look like incompetent clowns.

He is from Ethiopia. The first non-medic (microbiologist/epidemiologist) to have been made a Health Minister in Ethiopia. And his run of "good luck" took him to the WHO too, where he became the first African and non-medic to ever superintend the affairs of the WHO. By the way, before transiting to the WHO, he also served as Ethiopian Foreign Minister too . Dr Ted is typical example of what is wrong with Africa, where political connection trumps merit.

I became interested in Dr Tedrous background sometime in January/February this year, after watching several of his contradictory daily Press Briefings. Although, the AU/Chinese endorsement got Dr Ted the WHO job, all indications suggest that this job is way above his pay grade. Now, the whole world has to live with the mess.

Tonytonex:
Which African country is he from?

There is no doubt that Abba Kyari was well-read and loyal to his friends and acquaintances. However, as the defacto "President of Nigeria" Abba was an epic failure.

Nice historical recap. However, you forgot to mention that immediately after Mossadegh appointment as the Prime Minister by the Shah, he became power-drunk, seizing refineries and holdings controlled by western companies, a la Robert Mugabe style. His greatest undoing was his land reform that pitted him against the Shah and other major landowners. In fact, Mossadegh flip flop policies did not affect only the elites, the masses were significantly impoverished too. With the aforesaid, and active connivance of aggrieved former allies and the Shah, his deposition was a fait accompli.

dermmy:
@ the bolded Iran has always catered for its citizens from the beginning. In the 50's Mossadegh expropriated the oil industry that was being exploited by British and American oil companies and gave it back to the people he did that because of the love he had for the Iranians but it's a pity that America and Britain had to unseat him in a coup and replaced him with a dictator that looted the country dry.

America hasn't forgiven them since they took the country back from U.S exploitation in 1979 revolution. That is why uncle Sam is still waging economic warfare on the country. Don't swallow western propaganda every nation has the right to defend itself from aggression. It is western sanction that is making life difficult for ordinary Iranians and they won't give up their military programme for the removal of western sanctions it's suicidal.

The military programme is the only thing deterring America from invading.

Why are you so uncouth? I was forced to comment on this thread due to your outbursts and claims. You haven't started with me? As in what way?Dude, you sure have some problems.

dumodust:
Mr suddenly matured, you are the one who came here making wild unfounded allegations about hardworking medics and trivialising their work, go and work on yourself and leave docs alone.
Yes, in your dictionary doctors should be calm, sit down, shut up and just take it abi? I haven't even started with you.
Go and use your money to buy and donate PPE, your mates are doing so already and doing all they can to help.
If there is no PPE, no one is attended to, simple.
There's no emergency in a pandemic.
Go and ask the families of those that were infected and gone.
Have you even ever bothered about them? Have you started a gofundme for them or donated to assist them as their bread winners are gone?
I guess the answer is No... But you want more suicidal 'heroes' to die or rather go around buying their own PPE at astronomical prices with meagre resources.
SMH

I don't think it is a good idea to accept PPE from their patients. PPE from an infected patient might end up as a COVID-19 transfer agent. I certainly understand the financial angle to these things. Some doctors earning as little as N150K per month (quoting Dr. Funmisticqueen) is unbelievable. Nonetheless, some PPE gears are reusable; just good disinfection after every shift is required. Some companies here have also come up with the idea that cyclic steam cleaning at high temperature can actually make PPEs like N95 masks reusable.

dumodust:
If they work at federal teaching hospitals, why should they source their own PPE on the black market ( if you're not aware, protective gear is now scarce and prices are inflated). If they ever do that, it will deplete their already meagre pay.
Maybe all intending patients should buy PPE on their way to the hospital.
This is clearly the responsibility of the hospital, quality control is also very important.
In summary, my point is your are pointing fingers at the wrong people.

You raised some valid points in your comment. And I agree that the health care system in Nigeria is screwed, but you guys should try as much as possible to protect yourselves. Be safe.

funmisticqueen2:
they also do it because they can afford it and are well paid. Nigerian health workers are not well paid.


Hazard allowance is 5k, face mask is 11,500, how much is PPE? How much is Google? How is bills during lockdown? 150k salary cannot cover that.


Meanwhile a doctor abroad is well paid. There are no made in Aba boys and Igbo traders to increase prices and hoard basic materials.


Do you see the difference?


Many health workers enter medical school with a passion. By the times they start clinicals,reality of the failed system sets in and their passion starts to die. After bullying and abuse from seniors, being scammed and lied on by patients, irregular salary, writing exams but failing to enter residency because there's no slot or connect. Many of them lose the remaining passion by Youth service.

Same happened to me.

There's no emergency in a pandemic. My life first.

What is your point? I previously suggested that the least any medic can do is to source for his or her own PPE if the government/employer fails to make enough PPE available. Doctors and nurses need to be alive in order to serve the society, their own families included.

dumodust:
https://www.nairaland.com/5812200/40-health-workers-tested-positive

@ maasoap and luchitec oya o

E don happen... The statistics are out!!!
40 whooping health workers!!!
And ingrates here will be asking why they didn't do anything without proper PPE
Covidiots!!!

I am beginning to doubt that you are actually a medical doctor. In the days gone by, real doctors are known for their comportment and composure no matter the stress and provocation. Instead of countering my comment with valid points just the way Dr. Fumisticqueen did, you resorted to name calling. I repeat again; dude, your recent outburst further confirms that you never practiced in any developed country. There is a certain degree of quality and class that comes from professional experience acquired in a setting where things are properly done. By the way, did you ask why Nigerian medics should run round sourcing PPEs with their money? It is for their own safety. If the government failed to do the needful, will these medics just fold their hands, doing nothing to protect themselves as much as they can? Finally a word of advice, if you are really a medic; please tone down the tantrums, it's unbecoming of somebody who calls himself a trained physician.

dumodust:
Guy, stop giving us lectures about a higher calling blah blah blah and writing epistles. Healthcare jobs are what they are- jobs. It's just sensitive and you are under obligation to do your best not to kill yourself.
It's now that you know it's a service and higher calling abi? Using which money to source for PPE? where will they source for the PPE? PPE that people like you in the public are selling for astronomical prices. Why don't you attack them for having a higher calling? Yet you want the Nigerian healthcare workers with meagre resources to go running around in this social distancing time looking for PPE to buy with their money because of what?
Commenting like a kid who doesn't know what life is with oyibo being larger than life in your infantile brain.
Pls stop commenting these nursery rhymes Mr 'where I live', go and buy PPE and donate and stop looking for heroes that you are not. You stay in your house shiting your pants and making comments online while people are making sacrifices.

Your submissions on this thread suggest that you never practiced in any developed country. It is only in Nigeria that you see some medics acting so cocky, with little passion for their job. Yes, some of the medics in Nigeria lack the much needed passion to save lives. Where I live, many doctors and nurses go the extra mile of using their personal money to source for PPEs during this COVID-19 pandemic. Given the scarcity of PPE everywhere, many medics here have been collaborating with universities and the private sector to devise alternative PPEs and medical equipment. Why are they making these aforementioned efforts? They do it because medical practice is a higher calling. it is a call to service. A service where the joy of saving lives supersedes any financial reward or public acclamation arising thereof. May God help Nigeria and Nigerians in this difficult time.

dumodust:
Guy, I have practiced both abroad and here and I have nothing else to prove.
Stop talking about things you know nothing about and go to sleep with your ignorance. Continue responding like u would do in your family meeting.
If I am placed in emergency services abroad, they have their sense of ethics intact and won't send you to war front bare. Google and see what they wear. They have improved allowances, life insurance and even get financial support from the govt and you are here ranting.