Ever since its announcement by China in 2019, It is least to say that so many conspiracy theories have sprung up ever since COVID-19 broke out, where people share their opinion on what is the cause of the pandemic, but the one most talk about is its link to the 5G network, new world order, the coming of the antichrist, and the eventual end of the world.
A British man had earlier uploaded a video online, showing the new TWENTY POUND NOTE (£20) which was recently released in Britain and claimed that at the back of the note, you would see a 5G mast and symbol of coronavirus over it. The notes entered circulation on February 20, 2020, and is made entirely from polymer.
Not so long ago, Senator, Dino Melaye shared a video online, where he advised the federal government to desist from installing and using 5G infrastructure in Nigeria, while also linking the Network to the coronavirus deaths.
While nations are researching a cure to the virus which has killed thousands globally over a short period; while other nations are on lockdown in a bid to prevent further spread of the virus, a new video is now making waves online, which shows pastor Chris Oyakilome sharing his own opinion, why he thinks the pandemic was created.
Pastor Chris, the General Overseer of Believers' love world tells a congregation he was preaching to that the pandemic was created in order to popularize the 5G network, which is gradually gaining attention across the world because the network has advance Artificial intelligence (AI), that can solve nearly all the human problems, which is a major breakthrough for science, technology, and medicine.
It is of the opinion of Pastor Chris that for the creators of the 5G network to make the world accept this new technology, the creator has to send fear into the world, and therefore be able to make everyone to embrace it as the possible way out for their problems.
ghostwon: It seems you are a little bit confused. It is true that some years ago, you were unable to use actual authentic maps in your speech. You didn't know where to find them. It is not my fault that you were even more incompetent than you are now.
I have never claimed that "any map showing Yoruba is fictional". I have actually posted precolonial maps showing oyo (Not that early, 18th century) and even one showing ife ( 19th century).
Your level has improved, in the fact that you were actually able to produce an authentic map for once, although a fictional one which still doesn't show ife.
Your reasoning faculties haven't improved. And your honesty hasn't either. You are growing up, but you are still a toddler compared to me. Actually, when I am unwell and incapable of doing my usual deep reasoning like I do when doing complex mathematics, I am still a billion times smarter than you in your best.
mumu I wonder why a so called mathematician would not face his discipline but be thinking himself a better historian than all the historians of the world. Mathematical historian that has nothing but European flawed maps You are sick
I'm sure mathematics isn't working for you.. Or anything for that matter Because common sense should have hit you by now and you wouldn't be displaying this humiliating show of cognitive dissonance
TAO11: Thanks for your time bro. Those Binis are mere frustrated noise makers. And we all know the reason for their frustration. It's an open secret.
Yeah, I will read on the Kisra episode, I haven't began any serious reading on it yet.
However, there is quite concrete evidence on ground already --- regarding the North-Africa/NorthEast Africa connection --- which establishes fairly definitively that the direction of migration (of the civilization who made those monoliths) was upward, and not downward.
That day I was too tired to pursue the details of the proof and referencing for that point, in that same comment. Moreover, I was only about five words near the word limit for a Nairaland comment. I will definitely return to it in a separate comment.
Regarding the alleged similarity between "old Semitic" languages and Yoruba language:
I once passionately held the view of a similarity of languages which led me to the popular conclusion of direct causation. No, it's a big fallacy with tons of setback.
My fair reading on the subject has shown quite clearly that some words are bound to sound alike (and mean the same thing) in almost every two randomly selected languages.
A proefssor of Yoruba language or Yoruba history (I can't remeber which specifically at the moment) once went to teach in Japan. Guess what! He returned with many Japanese words which not only sounds similar to Yoruba words, but also have same meanings.
Iṣ(é) in Turkish also means work. Have you considered the English word Me and it Yoruba equivalent? Many more examples can be found in virtually all languages.
What do we then conclude from all these?:
That the Yoruba people are originally Japanese, Turkish, Anglo-Saxon, and many, many more all at the same time?
Or that this indeed corroborates the glottochonological linguistic view that all modern languages have evolved slowly over milleniums from few fairly mutually intelligible proto-languages?
Or that several of the observed similarities are in fact what linguists term accidental coincidences?
These last two cases obviously seem to be more tenable in contrast to the first which is extremely unlikely if not ridiculous.
So, the observed similarities with ancient "Semitic" (several of which are sheer exaggeration or outright falsehoods) are nothing unique.
In fact, you can make almost any word in a language sound like (and have some quite related meaning to) another word in another language.
It's all a function of your perfect ingenuity, strong imagination, and high intuition.
cc: macof
Right now on another thread I'm engaging 3 guys who insist Yoruba are semitic Coming up with ideas like Aramean is Oranmiyan, Deborah is Ebora, Malaki and Ejilu (of the Ẹyọ origin story) are Malachi and Elijah
One thing I've come to realise is that Africans live with so much inferiority complex You have seen it in the Binis on this forum But I have seen it in our people too. I see it in African Americans almost daily
Inferiority complex is exposed in two forms -aggression and resentment for a people who you consider but do not accept are superior to you. A constantly triggered defense mechanism is employed where you try to belittle the person to feel good about yourself -dismissing your own identity or elements of it that you think make you inherently inferior for that of someone else you think superior
When I see Blacks who are ashamed of African origin but want to be anything else I am disgusted, because I can't even relate and for me I wonder why I would shun common sense and disregard evidence and studies for imaginations
As you've implied, any layman can come up with so called "language connections" all you need is imagination, that's even when you should be suspicious... That it's laymen without skills or particular knowledge that are coming up with such huge but easy "connections" I mean who can't see how interestingly similar "Ebora" is to "Deborah" but how is this a valid connection? You wouldn't know better than (historical) linguists, if it were so easy for any random person then these scholars are wasting their time
Osagyefo98: Let the argument end coz Bini whether na Ibini and Yorubas are blood brothers that can't be separated no matter the argument.
An Edo man sees himself as a Yoruba man and vice versa because blood is thicker than water.
Cc macof ghostwon TAO11
Blame the white man for this unnecessary argument with their maps.
The guy is ignorant and extremely deluded Once upon a time he thought nobody could use maps to knock try to knock his delusions out Now he is saying some maps are fiction What a transition...from European maps are the holies of holies to "erm, any map that shows a Yoruba kingdom is fiction" Mad people everywhere
ghostwon: First of all, all the maps I posted were attached to a description and are kept in the most important libraries and museums in the world (Bibliothèque nationale de France being one of them). It is not my fault that you do not know how to use a computer to look at the description. Below you will see an example of how to look at the description.
Good finally you provide descriptions. The other points remain the same
Even on the same map
There are two Yoruba kingdoms Popo and Ijebu (Jabou)
MetaPhysical: I purposely reserved information for follow-up because you are predictive and I already know what to do trap you when I need to.
Oba Ado was an in-law to Malachi and Ejilu. They lived in same time period. Was the Oba the first to bear the name ADO?
How far back can this name be traced in Yoruba antiquity?
Adimula, how far back can the name be traced?
Rather than trying to trap me. Just act normal for once in your life and defend your claims Not looking for who to trap, am I really the reason for your claims? Or you have other ulterior motives of making such claims
I have highlighted the problems with your Malaki and Ejilu = Malachi and Elijah claim Sort the chronological mess your claim will create if taken seriously
MetaPhysical: Where did you post this? I must not have seen it. Your reasoning there does not hold water. If I saw this post when it was first made I would have set you on the right path.
Lagos is the only place Eyo is observed. It has a major and principal Orisha called Adimu. People wrongly call it Adamu Orisa but its true name is Adimu, and is short for Adimula. It was introduced to Lagos from Ibeju by Malaki and Ejilu, brothers to Olugbani, wife of Oba Ado.
Should we say because Eyo is not observed in other Yoruba towns the apparent history of Adimu to Middle East is fake? The cult of Bilikisu Oshugbo is only among the Ijebu, no other Yoruba practice it. Does that negate its ties to Midlle East?
In fact Malaki and Ejilu are the pairs of Malachi and Elijah. Olugbani is Luban (a Semitic female name, the male equivalent is Laban).
These are not coincidences!
what a stupid post
So Malaki and Ejilu who brought Eyo from Ibefun (not ibeju) in the 18th century are Malachi and Elijah from over two thousand years ago in Israel? Besides Malachi and Elijah lived in different times
What exactly is the problem with you people and why don't you regard timelines at all?
ghostwon: It seems you have poo in your head and eyes:
1) France is on lockdown 2) Germany is also on lockdown 3) Jebu didn't consider itself Yoruba until the colonial era when Nigerian politics got involved and the creation of a big new political tribe was the order of the day. Jebu always saw Yoruba as inferior. 4) the fact remains that no early map shows ife as you want to claim. 5) the map which you posted is a fictional one which was made while some allucinating Europeans were looking for a mythical figure (prester John) whom they first tried to locate in Asia then in Africa. 6) your claim that Europeans didn't venture into the interior I'd Africa relies on Wikipedia and on the claim either true or false that missionaries had difficulties in the 18th century. When will you stop making self serving claims and rather focus on facts ? Given the precisions of the maps (the ones I keep posting) and the texts which accompany them, the map makers traveled wide. And made maps of what they saw. Nice of you to show a fictional map which you called "best map" because your aim is to discredit all the maps since they don't show your mythical ife, and to discredit all the maps, you claim the fictional and discredited one is the best. Your brain is not very sofisticated.
Then email them or call them to buy the map.
The details and description of those maps are vivid. Your so called "authentic maps" don't even have a description.. None of the links you share or maps you post have a description or publisher or is the name of the cartographer known
I posted maps with full details and you have been switching from "not authentic" to "ok I've authenticated it" back to "not authentic" I've never seen you so confused about your beloved European maps If any maps are fictional it is the ones you post. Because you are yet to give us a full description of the maps
I've posted maps as early as the 14th century showing Ife, the earliest maps you have shown of Benin is the 17th century Who got the earliest maps now?
ghostwon: It is weird that you can't make a sentence without swearing at me. I attribute this to your lack of actual arguments on your part. Insults seem to be your arguments.
I am not on a debate about Latin. I spell words the way they are written, I don't attempt nonsensical translations of words from Latin to an unknown language, I leave that to the bullshitters like you.
Orgvene is most likely what I have already stated it to be. Still no ife on the maps Still no "Yoruba" on the early maps. Nor even "oyo" while they all show "Benin" and "Mali". Jebu is even present, but no "ife" instead you have to claim "Orgvene" is actually "ife". Well isn't it surprising that Benin and Mali and Jebu and Kano which appear on early maps are not called other names and needing of "theories" to change way different names into theirs.
Joker, still no ife in early maps.
Oh you can't take your own medicine? After all your personal attacks you want to act like a victim here because you have no other sensible point to make I came at you nicely only for you to begin your personal attacks
As I've said you are too ignorant for me to have a proper discussion with. You show truly that history is not your area and you have little to no business arguing what you don't know Common sense should even tell you this
A person who knows basic history would know that Europeans butchered the names of places Benin is a wrong name, it is Ibini Melly is wrong it is Mali Jabou is wrong it is Ijebu
At a Time when Yorùbáland had no uniform name, referring to this area by a popular nomen Lukumi albeit wrongly putting it as "Ulcami" is not extraordinary Referring to Ife by its King is not extraordinary
Wagadu is called Ghana by Europeans eventhough Gana was the title of its kings So Ife called Organe or Orguene by Europeans is obviously in reference to the Oghene of Ife
I've given you an assignment... Since you think Orguene is not Ife and you are the grand authority of all historical knowledge now, go and find what kingdom it is
ghostwon: You have some serious mental problems. Where did you see me debunking the map ? It is a fact that it is a very badly made map, or did this escape your scrutini ? I independently verified the map's authenticity because you were unable to prove it yourself. I took upon me the job of authenticating the map which you posted. When I had done that, rather than tell lies the way you yari.ba always do, I came and said: " I have independently authenticated the map". It seems that that has rushed s lot of blood to your head. And now you are saying illogical things and making yet some other unsubstantiated claims.
One fact remains, all the maps I posted were much more accurate than your Best map.
On the matter of Orgvene. This is getting tiring, merely repeating a claim is not the same thing as proving it. You claim Orgvene is ife. Then just price it ! Or is that so difficult ? Does the spelling of ife and that of Orgvene look alike ? Or is there any historical document which proves your case ? No, your proof is: "many African historians believe it". Well with this kind of reasoning I can claim to be the king of the world. (Many African historians believe it). Orgvene is not ife and it might very much be a fictional name given that actual serious and way more accurate maps do not show Orgvene.
You are sick and really a waste of time This one has drowned in the sea of Bini ignorance and bigotry
You first called out the map despite giving you links to the map. Do you have amnesia? Was this not your comment?
the authenticity of your map hasn't been proven, the website holding it doesn't belong to any trustworthy institution.
wasn't until you realised that the institution was from your European masters that you came with the nonsense "I've authenticated it" who tha fvck are you as if facts depend on your sentiments in the first place, whether you like take it or leave "Serious way more accurate maps do not show Orguene"?? (the "v" is latin for "u" Dumbass ) then since you know more than historians please do our job, find what kingdom Orguene is I thought your European masters were the know it all whose maps are the final say So now I've made you begin to distrust your masters?
absolutesuccess .....add Ogogo-Magogo to the list. Ado. Ijesha. Respectively Gog & Magog, Ad, Gersham. Teach him what he does not know. There are over a hundred place names in Yorubaland that are replications of place names in Afro-Asia. Some places have been lost sef due to wars in Yorubaland and sacking of towns.
Macof is using our contribution and knowledge to equip his learning. We should be proud that we are his teachers. There was a post here about twins in Yorubaland and the rite of Kehinde holding seniority to Taiye and how this custom has root to Isaac's twins, Esau and Jacob. He read it and jumped out to contest it. He said its a crap, nothing at all connects Yoruba twins to Isaac's twins. To back his argument he gave us twins oriki - Ejire ara Isokun! It had to be pointed to him that the "Isokun" in the oriki is of course "Isaak". His knowledge base is shallow and what he brings here are data collected from elsewhere, they are not self-inspiration. What he learns from us he deposits elsewhere.
Some of us author or contribute materials to writers and researchers, therefore we cannot give full list of what we know here. We can list a hundred place names and present artwork in Yorubaland that are precise match to places in Afro-Asia and culture.
What we call Agbada in Yorubaland is an ancient style of clothing that has not changed much for centuries and has remained in the Semitic culture till today and called "Abaya". Agbada - Abaya - Cloak. Tobi - Thobe - Garment Bante - Pant
You literally have no contribution and knowledge. I'm yet to find one, just one point of fact from you
Is it Magogo is Gog and Magog that is the knowledge I'm using? What nonsense knowledge
While you're at it you could also say Abuja is Abidjan Damn fools... You are too intellectually lazy that all you do is look at words that look alike with no recourse for meanings or etymology And that's what you call knowledge? Damn! What a slowpoke
The idea of Kehinde being senior to taye is very different from esau and Jacob While esau remains senior to Jacob, Jacob only took the blessing of the senior later in life (a Jewish centric narrative, that I'm sure the Edomites would have disagreed) But Kehinde's seniority in Yorùbá starts from inception, with Taiwo sending Kehinde to go and taste the world
And you call yourself Yoruba but you don't know this? Fake Yoruba
You dey ask for correlation between Yoruba and Babel, if we give you now you go begin sweat and asking for methodology.
Oga do me a favor....what are characteristics of "babel" in the way you understand it?
Of course, why would you not have a methodology to arrive at such conclusion?
You want to make historical breakthroughs? Then your work must fulfil historical requirements You don't get to jump the line by just getting whatever claims you make remain unquestioned You should be able to defend your claims
macof: 1. Wrong accents marks for most of what is written there. You don't seem to speak Yoruba fluently? As I still remember you couldn't tell the difference between "ìlú" and "ìlù"
T'ibì T'ire ni à da ilẹ̀ Ayé That is the right way to write what you were trying to say.
2. "Àlominílé f'ẹjẹ wẹ" is an oriki of Ogun not Esu
3. Esu - the man - was from Ketu. All traditions around Esu revolves around Ketu, with Oyo recording his presence among them at some time He had no presence in places like Ife, reason Esu has no signicant following in central and Eastern Yoruba towns If Esu traveled as far as the middle east, I think Yorubas would know that
I remember this post from back then
Imagine these fools who I have been teaching basic Yoruba knowledge coming to tell me I am igbo or is it Edo
1) the authenticity of your map hasn't been proven, the website holding it doesn't belong to any trustworthy institution. 2) the name ife is not in the map 3) Regnvm orgvene doesn't translate to ife. 4) As you have failed to notice, claiming you know is not sufficient, you have to prove your point. And up to now all you have shown has been pro-Yoruba unsubstatited claims. Where I am from, just saying I studied history, so just believe me doesn't work. Produce proof that is all I ask.
You are on some real shit if the Götzfried Antique Maps is not reliable enough for you. You can send them an email or travel to germany to visit their office.. shey you claim to live in france
Regnum Orguene by the conclusion of many African historians does refer to Ife. Your ignorance of this is not the yardstick, that you are not aware of this does not stop it from being a well accepted theory by historians
Also, if the europeans had met ife under an other name, how come no european museum or library makes that claim ? Let me guess, you are about to misquote that american idiot specialized in yoruba art and discussing the mythical figure of prester john.
It is a well known fact that the portuguese were the first europeans to visit west africa and they were most impressed by Benin empire, so much that they exchanged embassadors with Benin empire and also named the Bight of Benin "Bight of Benin" on their map.
If you are a student of history then either you guys in nigeria are getting a new kind of history unknown to the rest of mankind which relies on lies and ethno centic paranoya either you are just a bloody liar hoping to confuse others with smooth lies which won't pass the detector with me.
ghostwon: I have indepedently authenticaated the map you posted here as not being a forgery by you or some other folks. Although we can all agree it is a poorly made map. Eventhough you have decided to call it "the best map". It was published in 1542. It doesn't mention your beloved and illusive ife.
Here is a map published in 1570, much more precise and spot Benin Empire on it
wheather you like or not claim i forged the map funny how earlier you were ranting as to how european maps are just final on african history, i gave you maps showing you a yoruba kingdom and then for the first time you tried to debunk your european masters
for the record my aim of using maps with you is to teach you something your small mind never realized and that is...european maps are no proper sources because they leave out a lot of details and often misposition the kingdoms they mention in their maps... because all they knew was what they were told about the hinterland since they did not leave the coast to venture into the rain forests. it was not until the 19th century armed with Chloroquine to fight off malaria that they began to get the whole idea of what those kingdoms away from the coast were really like.
but even at that ... "Malaria once turned Africa into the "missionaries' graveyard" as many European missionary personnel and families perished planting the Gospel in the Continent in the 19th century." https://www.researchgate.net/publication/271105124_The_19th_Century_European_Missionaries_and_the_Fight_Against_Malaria_in_Africa so if as at the 19th century, european missionaries were dying like chickens, what makes you think european traders could and explorers could go far and wide in the african hinterlands for centuries before that
"Overall, European exploration of Africa in the 17th and 18th centuries was very limited. Instead they were focused on the slave trade, which only required coastal bases and items to trade. The real exploration of the African interior would start well into the 19th century." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_exploration_of_Africa
But since european maps are like your bible Here is another map showing the presence of the Yoruba This one is from your link https://www.raremaps.com/gallery/detail/59159/libya-interior-and-malta-honter : showing Orguene much closer south than the other maps that project it futher north. And I don't see a Benin in this Map will you condemn this map too
Here is a geography dictionary from the website you shared almost all your links from https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k9808606s/f769.image.r=Ulcuma?rk=21459;2 - Ulcuma/Ulcami (Lukumi) refers to Yorubaland.....you claim to live in france you should understand french right? it says Ulcuma is at the coast of guinea in between Arder (Allada, Dahomey) and Benin
picture: screenshot from "Roots of Cuban Blacks" Jorge and Isabella Castellanos
You spend so much time arguing stupidly on historical topics, you have called historians all sorts of names but imagine a Jobless guy like you wanting to teach historians their job. Get tha fvck outta here
ghostwon: You are really bad at history for a person who claims to be a student of history. 1) where is the link from which you downloaded the map ? This information is important in order to verify the authenticity of the map before further talk. 2) since when is oghene synonymous with ife ? 3) on that map, you have a regnum orgaen, how does that translate to oghene ?and how does oghene translate to ife ?
See authentic precolonial maps below, notice they go against your map.
The source is the Bibliothèque nationale de France. I think you should stop claiming that the European visitors didn't venture away from the coast, that is an obvious lie and for your information, Benin city is not in the coast. Also you were not there so you can't in your right mind say where they went or did not go. It is pure madness. The Europeans had been visiting the region for at least 600 years, it seems rather silly to claim that they never left the coast. Anyway, you want to discredit precolonial maps because they show the reality of Benin empire and the falseness of ife village and small and young ife kingdom. Those truths you do not want exposed. Keep on calling ife "oghene" and posting maps with no sources...that will rewrite history for you.
Also, how you came to the conclusion of your map being "the best" is beyond imagination. All the precolonial maps which I posted are authentic and way better looking and more accurate than your "the best map".
And you spend too much time discussing history for a person who claims to be a mathematician. At least I am in my field and know exactly what I say You are no historian and not even a genuine enthusiast for that matter, reason you jump to attack whatever doesn't fit your ignorant bigotry
And in my defense to my claim of the map being the best of its time.. In the link it is written in German "allen Künigreichen so zu unseren Zeiten darin [in Afrika] gefunden werden" Meaning the map shows all sovereign Kingsdom known to the Germans during this time. Notice Benin kingdom is not even considered sovereign hence not on the map
It appears Benin was not even considered a kingdom of its own by most europeans as late as the 16th century but Ife had been on their maps since the 14th century Catalan Atlas, eventhough they never set foot in ife, they heard of it's great God-king
2 & 3. See picture below 1. Pic: Screenshot from "Studies in Urhobo Culture" by Peter Palmer Ekeh... this shows that The name "Oghene" is used by several people to refer to the King of Ife. Oghene is simply a dialectical version of Ooni... Ooni/Owoni/Oghoni/Oghone/Oghene/Oghane are all various african forms of the title which Europeans wrote as Organe/Organa
2. Pic: Screenshoot from "Art in Ancient Ife: Birthplace of the Yoruba" by Suzanne Blier....this also mentions the spanish map of 1375 which shows Organa below the river Niger. Theories abound as to what Kingdom this is but if this is the same Organe the Portuguese heard from Benin then it is safe to assume the Organa of this map is same Ife https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Atles_catal%C3%A0_%28full_4%2C_ca000004%29.jpg
kayfra: What are the archeological artifacts to back up your own fantasy claims?
that was my post the guy stole. I made that post some time ago and since he monitors my activity on nairaland he must have checked my previous posts and found that one Unfortunately he doesn't even understand the points raised in the post
Obalufon: You are useless guy you lack c'mon sense.. Tower of babel laughing " are you searching for city of babel in yoruba land ? caged brain macof literally savvy but lack c'mon sense ,i like the way you write though but hate your mind " laughing ..Babel is what is giving you problem .. Go and meet your Elders if you have one - to tell you story about great flood and how God change our language in Ile-ife history .. No myth or history in the bible or Quran that we don't have our own version Even some scholars believe everything in the bible was copied from Egyptian texts that is why some scholars are trying to bridge the gab because the similarity between Yoruba and Hebrew religion is damn to much, even though i am rooted in my yoruba tradition as a yoruba man, i imbibe attributes and virtues of true yoruba man we are not too fast to disprove people.. Also as a wise person you need to learn and don't believe you know it all because that will nullify the zeal to know more ...Socrates believes he knows nothing . And another thing you don't know is that the ethnicities of Senegal, Gambia and Mali are all Niger - Congo as well so what's your point? Your white master told you that so i advice read books written by African scholars everything written by whites are done in away to caged your mind ..To me from Sudan to Mali is cushite land Hausa , bambaras soninke all the Malian tribes all migrated here from Sudan .... Senegalese are northern African aborigine that were pushed downward by the migration of Bedouin Arabs from Syria , Iraq Turk Levant. first by Italians.....some Italian have 30% of Senegalese DNA even in Spain and Portugal ....Egyptian too migrated south passing through bornu ...Ibn battuta visited Oyo i need you to read books i guess you are looking for yoruba in the book
Obalufon: You're not Yoruba ,you wish to be a yoruba man..You even disprove Ibn battuta account on yoruba ,you need to go back to your professor that taught you this Niger Congo bantu history to broaden your mind on yoruba history .Will you also disprove the presence of yoruba in Mali, Gambia Senegal and Sudan in ancient time ?...History of great flood when God used water to end the world Ark of Noah and tower of babel when God changes the language of human is in ife history ... Looking for city of babel fool ask google .
I asked you for the Yoruba story of tower of babel as you claimed You know there's no such thing but rather than move along you still choose to reply with this nonsense of a post
Now, you have said multiple times that Ibn Battuta mentioned Yoruba I've read the report of his travels and all his destinations I believe I'm familiar with... If there's a time he mentioned yorubas, do provide the page and quote the statement in which Yoruba was mentioned
Google? Google is where you learn about Yoruba and this iidiot is calling me igbo
I hope you know that presence can come through trade? That Yoruba traded with malians doesn't mean Yoruba are malians or malians are Yoruba... Just so you know that.. If you are even capable of comprehending this And another thing you don't know is that the ethnicities of Senegal, Gambia and Mali are all Niger - Congo as well so what's your point?
You don't have father or elders even if you don't read books? You don't know through acculturation from living in Yorùbáland certain things about Yoruba? Google is where you learned about Yoruba Tower of babel, Yoruba in Sudan, Senegal and Gambia. No wonder some buffoons on nairaland told you Yoruba are semitic and you believed You might have Yoruba parents but your orientation is not yoruba, you are too far removed and too moronic to be one of us
Obalufon: what research have you conducted mr man? i know all the bogus Niger congo stuff but i need answers,lot of things about Yoruba that has not been answered.. Yoruba people with different oral history ,oyo history of yoruba is different from ijebu .... yoruba have so many things in comon with hebrew Mr man if you don't know do more research into yoruba religion and custom also hebrew... Essence of having loose fringe garments you think is fashion .We also have history of have great flood and tower of babel .,
Tower of babel in Yorùbá traditions? OK What's the Yoruba name for the city of babel? And under what context and to what association is this your "babel" made
Obalufon: The elders in your family are misguided not me, Yoruba in your dream ..... You nothing but big mouthed ibo man... i've gone through all your post on nairaland .
I don't doubt you've gone through all my posts. All of you do that regularly, You are all Jobless and since you can't defend your claims or discredit the question you must look for ways to try to discredit the questioner Yet you couldn't find anything that makes me out to be igbo. Your calling me ibo is just the same way you call the Yoruba Hebrew Baseless, lacking any evidence, having a conviction before even beginning a research into the matter. (not that you'll even intellectual enough to carry out research on history)
Obalufon: You are a fool if you don't know i'm making mockery of you ibos , your people are claiming Israelite go and disprove their Israelite claim and leave yoruba alone .Your people were .buck-naked people roaming around the forest till we yoruba clothed you people . Try to debunk ibos ISRAELITE claim and leave yoruba out of it Yoruba never come out openly to claim Israelite despite religion and culture similarities .but your people that are nothing but forest ape openly claiming Hebrew Israelite .. i need you to concentrate on your people
You are making mockery of iidiots claiming Hebrews amongst the igbo, while you claim Hebrew just like them?? so are you making mockery of yourself yet? Cus you are just as misguided as those igbos claiming Hebrew
Concentrating on my people is exactly what I'm doing.. And good thing you know that Yoruba people don't take you clowns seriously and your stupid Hebrew claims remain insignificant. And whether you like it or not, that's how it will remain Igbos are so unfortunate to have allowed the clowns amongst them spread their madness... Same will not happen in my land
absoluteSuccess: That guy is clever, he's here to consistently jam the frequency of transmission from source (Yoruba traditions) to destination (Yoruba history). It's pure and simple.
He's working so that Yoruba tradition fails to deliver Yoruba history. Then he can be the mouthpiece for all.
He's a chanel connected to a different source other than Yoruba traditions. He has said it, "Lower Guinea" please what's that or how does it correspond to Yoruba history or tradition?
You can't cheat nature by changing VHF to UHF or decode a different frequency other than yours on the broadband or broadcast Chanel you are born into.
But thats what the guy intend to do by being clever, aiming and ready to switch the message that got delivered from an unknown source (his source) to a known destination (Yoruba) at the expense of the people on that natural network.
In communication science, that's called noise or interference. It's impossible for AIT to broadcast NTA on its on Chanel. The guy is trying to be NBC instead.
Our ancestors were modulators. We are demodulators of every modules as natural channels connected to the same network frequency. A strange bedfellow can never connect to this.
The best such can do is to consistently jam the frequency with hateful messages to achieve his aim of discouraging patronage of the messages.
At the end, apathy sets in and he wins.
This one doesn't know what lower Guinea is yet quick to jump on my mention of it Rather than educate yourselves you choose to remain ignorant and silly You claim here to have Yoruba traditions as your source, yet when Yoruba traditions cannot serve your Hebrew obsession you condemn same traditions
Prof. Eluyemi, Prof Akintoye, Obadio, Elebuibon and several others I have mentioned are unknown sources?? You are not normal
technicallyrich: These grandmother. A woman that they don't want forcing herself on her husband village.she appears neat,just hope she washes her pant.because it had been confirmed most afonjas women don't wash their pant.and mess too much. I served the zoo in the big for nothing ibadan so I know these first hand. God bless us all
. Idiiots say things without actually thinking If we are even to take this nonsense post of yours seriously What does it say about you when you are so close and intimate with people so much so to know they don't wash their pants? Not one person, otherwise you wouldn't generalise so, probably not two So if your intimate associates are such... You must be even worse
Obalufon: it seems you have no work...talking like person wey dey shit for body.. ..you are not yoruba,, is not my fault you were born into ibo lineage, i know you wish you were yoruba that is why you want to join yoruba with monkey people through Niger congo bantus ...
Just look at this compound buffoon
You keep jumping on things and reacting without any idea yet even your ignorance is inconsistent First Yoruba are Hebrew, Igbo are bantu and have nothing to do with yoruba Then you change suddenly to Igbo are Israelites (which are Hebrews) to Yoruba are Sudanese, Gambians, Egyptians... Like wtf?! Now you're back to igbo are bantu
It's quite disturbing because I've never come across someone with this level of intellectual disability
Obalufon: Laughing who said yoruba were Israelite .. i thought you ibos were .. The world know the similarity between Hebrew custom and tradition is so similar to Yoruba from dressing to religion ..
. Just look at this I've told you before, you are one big buffoon Worse than the others sef
Culture › Re: The Mysterious Link Between Ancient Egyptian Language And Yoruba by macof(m): 4:06pm On Apr 06, 2020
