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lawani:
We know Oduduwa described himself as a son or descendant of Nimrod and that is enough

Googi.. Can you see what I'm saying?

Bini know that majority yorubas don't know shii about Odùduwà

They are smart

googi:
If that is the case, why are they claiming that Ekederhan that ran to Ughoton and became king that is celebrated up till now, missed his way to Ife?

Actually some centuries after the death of Oduduwa. If that is not a good lie, I wonder what that is.

Well if I asked you too where Odùduwà came from, I have a feeling you would give a wrong answer too, despite being Yoruba yourself. They know yorubas in the majority don't know where Odùduwà is from and use this to their own benefit

googi:
Lie-lie have no memory, no history and no credibility. They make up stories as they go along.

no, actually Bini are very good with their history, its just this Ekiopagha treaty and the origin of the Oba they selecting forget

scholes0:
Impossible.

The Benin Obas can never be Ogisos, they still pay the symbolic customary rent to the aboriginal Benins during their coronation by re-enacting the Ekiokpagha treaty.



The Day Benin Obaship goes back to Ogisoship or "Ogie"-ship is the day the moon shall turn to blood.

i don't know why Bini people forget this so often

MrAkata:
As the title suggest I am an Akata. I intend to relocate temporarily for various reasons. I basically would like to explore different opportunities and build a network in Nigeria. I have a background in IT and was considering enrolling in an University to further my studies and build a social network. I was wondering are Nigerian degrees recognized in America or would it be a waste of time ? I have a decent knowledge of IT and programming mostly self taught and certs. I am not too considered w/ school but rather the network it would provide.

I also have done some limited research and was torn between Lagos and Abuja. I am wondering which area would better suit my interest. I understand Abuja is more affluent but Lagos is a commercial hub with a lot going on. Im not timid or scared , I've lived in NY in rough parts so high density areas of black people do not intimidate me ( Im no tough guy ,either). What I am not interested in are any forms of "pan africanism" or any village experiences and wearing dashiki's ( no disrespect ) I just find those type of endeavors a waste of time and laughable. I've been to Ghana and did not enjoy it because of that reason . Too much emphasis on " cultural " shit , I respect African culture and can appreciate it , but it is yours . I do not seek to be something I am not. Too much tribalism and other political bullshit only confuses me and Im too old 4 that shit. My ONLY purpose in being in Nigeria is purely economical . I don't have time to waste on endeveours which will add no value to my life or the people i come in contact with.

I would greatly appreciate any feedback which I could take into consideration b4 making my move. I intend to travel there by March for 2 weeks just to touch the ground 1st b4 I make a decision. I tried searching YouTube but all of the Akata youtubers seem to be naive clowns to me so I take their opinions w/ "a grain of salt" as far as NIgeira.

I dont mean to come off disrespectful because I hold Nigerians in high esteem its just rather the narrative of the returning Akata which I hold in disdain. I don't want to be confused w/ some lost puppy looking to return and find his long lost culture and heritage. I have a culture and background o my own ( carribbean descent) so I can appreciate yours as I hold onto mines.

Blessing 2 u Brothers

you should try Search for Uhuru on YouTube, he is probably the best Akata on Nigerian and general African matters on YouTube

OlaoChi:
all this attack and saying i cant speak yoruba just because i asked for clarity on 'oludari' and 'alakoso'
this coming from a fraudster who says that 'iberu' means fearless in yoruba

have you forgotten when you said 'iberu' changed to 'hebrew' and means 'fearless'

GTFOH with your nonsense

same guy said years ago that Ebora is Deborah, still not long after he said Ebora is Abraham 1. inconsistency 2. Ignorance of both yoruba language and culture and that of the hebrews
all sort of nonsense here i tell you

IfYouKnowYouKno:
I'm more intelligent than Prophet Muhammad and Allah put together

But I'm not Muslim now

IfYouKnowYouKno:
GOAT KEEP USING TAQIYYA

IF YOU'RE NOT A MUSLIM, NOBODY CARES. I'M NEITHER A MUSLIM NOR CHRISTIAN

this is really hilarious
your intelligence level is so low but keep entertaining

IfYouKnowYouKno:
ZOMBIE THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU SAID, YOU CAN USE TAQIYYA I KNOW ABOUT THAT. ISRAEL IS HELPING THE WORLD AS LARGE, PALESTINES HAS NOTHING TO OFFER TO THE WORLD, STOP SYMPATHIZING WITH TERRORISTS. FULANIS ARE DOING WORST IN NIGERIA

stop being a paranoid iidiot. im not a muslim, neither do i care about the israel/palestine feud... my post was clear enough

too many dull youths on nairaland

MONIKERREVEALER:
*applause*

bravo mr international relations analyst!

ipob doesn't serve Israeli agenda?

hahaha!

so you think Israel has no enemies on the African continent?

you feel that Israel does not need a vassal state from which they can monitor what you African savages are cooking in your impoverished backyards?

we, the great easterners, are more than happy to be colonized by the Israelis as long as they join us in getting we ourselves, the great easterners, separated from you wicked, evil and hateful zoogerians!

read this to yourself again

IfYouKnowYouKno:
HOW DOES SUPPORTING PALESTINES OR ARAB HELP AFRICANS?
THE ARABS HATE AFRICANS, ONLY ARABS ARE STILL ENSLAVING AFRICANS IN THIS 21ST CENTURY, PROPHET MUHAMMAD THE PIG PROPHET INSULTED BLACK AFRICANS HIS HADDIT, THE WORLD DON'T TAKE MUSLIMS SERIOUSLY, CHINA HAVE ARRESTED AND DETAINED 2 MILLION MUSLIMS FOR BEING MUSLIMS, MYANMAR WITH THE HELP OF CHINA HAVE CHASED OUT ALL THE ROHINGYA MUSLIMS IN THEIR COUNTRY,

STOP BEING SLAVES TO ARABS, LEAVE MIDDLE EAST LET THEM SOLVE THEIR PROBLEM, THE JEWS AND ARABS ARE BROTHERS YOU MUSLIMS ARE USING RELIGION TO DIVIDE THEM.
YOU NIGERIAN MUSLIMS HATE BLACK CHRISTIANS MORE THAN JEWS HATE THEM

it is not everyone that tells you israel cannot help you that is a muslim.

jafol:
Pls where is the kingdom now n what has nigeria benefited from benin people. All u guys live in past glories but what is your greatness contributing today.

past glories give a man pride and enables him realize his potential moving forward. We can also ask, how has Nigeria benefitted the nigerian people not just edo people , but all peoples of nigeria

davidnazee:
He was fighting fiercely and bravely against British occupation of his kingdom. A war in which the British suffered huge casualties, a war that reminded the British that there is truly a powerful and mighty kingdom in Africa. A the British won due to superior weapons.
The British didn’t steal the bronzes, it’s their spoils of war.
And unlike the Yorubas and Igbos whose historical kingdoms are dead to them, Benin Kingdom is still very much alive in every Edos

this is one thing i commend the Edo for

frankfrancis871:



Once you've got Israel then you've got US. Where are those nincompoops who said Israel doesn't matter in international politics, I'm pretty sure Mazi Nnamdi Kanu got Israel's support hence US too. Biafra is emerging faster than we thought..

unfortunately Ipob does not serve Israeli agenda. Israel is all about dominating the middle east and ending the war against its neighbours with them on top. how does an organization proposing a break away african nation from Nigeria benefit them? Israeli reporters have been making fun of Africans claiming to be Hebrews lately

Mystick:
From this, the issue is about Israel. Why is USA acting as if they are the most affected?
Seeing that the USA rebellion started during Obama regime makes me to ask why almost all USA president always lean towards Israel in any dispute, even when Israel is wrong?

Jews in USA are very powerful because they control most of the money in a very capitalist state like USA
That is why the US stands with Israel

kayfra:
Vocabulary arguments are as weak as a limped dick. Languages of people change in less than 100 years. Focus on DNA not some half assed linguistic connection

corect but even in the absence of dna evidence(although there is), linguistic attempts should be thorough and methodical not something like 'television' is 'tell a vision' that clowns do on this forum

Rossikki:
Cheikh Anta Diop is a legend of African history. No need to ask any questions regarding his research and findings. Just watch/read and learn.

lol. anybody that tells you never to ask questions is surely suspect.

FeelDeMusic:
Hate to say but I agree with you.... such a deep mind and yet she says things like that... let's hope she was joking....

Vaxx, Folykaze, Pagan9ja, Macof come na!

maybe she was talking about sexual fetishes , cus i dont know what she would mean by afraid of fetish people over her shoes

brodalokie:
But there is a moses and he schooled in Egypt then there was a Shem, Ham and Japhet. They may be called different names. What if I told you that the Nimrod you know is the same person as Zoroaster or probably Lepacus?

i dont intend to have too much of my comments in this thread, as the thread is now a joke. You can open a new one and mention me to it to discuss this post of yours

DateMynd44:
afonj we also have Bini natives too in Orhionmwon.

And I agree, however Orhionmwon is not exclusively Bini, and i believe that was made clear wasn't it

DateMynd44:
Macof is Yoruba, who doesn't believe in the existence of Jehovah.
I've known him on this forum since 2014
he always claim to have a knowledge of Benin more than the Binis themself.
he shot himself in the foot when he said Uselu is a local government on it's own. where as Uselu is a community under Egor LGA

What has jehovah got to do with this?

Well maybe Bini youths should learn more about Benin. I dont remember ever posting that Uselu was a LGA.

brodalokie:
Noah did not settle in Africa. It was Ham that migrated to the plains of Africa and founded Egypt. The Jews are our first born and their ancestor, Shem remained in the middle east. They have nothing to do with the African land except trading intelligence with, Egypt, Ethiopia and Lybia

There are no people like Ham, Shem or Japheth in actual history. The bible is not a credible historical material, if you used the bible as a source in a School project in history class, you will get O marks for every information even if paraphrased from the bible.

Egypt was founded (or rather unified) by Narmer, the first pharaoh.

ImperialYoruba:
Alaye mi, Iba o. Aa jo yin o. Aa to yin ba sir.

There is nothing new under the sun, but there are plenty things hidden from mankind. Somethings must not be shared because they can endager mind and corrupt thoughts. So in their wisdom our ancestors tuck knowledge into words and encrypt them with a different code to hide its true nature. They know it will be found. In fact they want it to be found, but by those deserving. ObalufonIII and macof can never get me to talk about this, ill just yab dem, but because na you I go talk.


There is nothing in indigenous land or its language called ABURO. It does not belong in the lexicon of the Niger-Congo family of languages. Same thing with AKOBI. They are both foreign terms to narrate an ancient custom brought with the Yorubas from their ancient foreign homeland.

Before i continue let me give you a brain teaser. grin

The narrators said Isaac (Aisaku) and Rebekah had fraternal twin sons Esau and Jacob. Esau was older and Jacob was younger but through some cunning Jacob cheated Esau and took the blessings reserved for the first born.

In essence what they are saying is customarily in that land first born sons are entitled to a spiritual rite, sort of a pass of the baton through the generations. The ritual involve placing of hand to anoint the son and invoke a praise for him. Beyond this spiritual practice a material practice also exist where after death the posessions and estate of the father is shared out and the first son has a first priority and largest share of that inheritance.

So Jacob cheated Esau out of both. It was possible with the treachery of the mother in favor of Jacob against Esau and the father, because in essence the father was also cheated in the act.

This is what you get when you dont know your culture nor practice your traditions nor speak fluent yoruba.

Akehinde gbe'gbon has nothing to do with life experience or historical events, it is a cultural belief that Akehinde was first conceived in the womb, so is senior (a fact supported by modern science; in the case of fraternal twins). It has nothing to do with Akobi...Kehinde is not Akobi, Taiwo is Akobi, sugbon Kehinde ni egbon. the meaning of 'Akobi' is very simple = born first, it relates to the order of birth, by which standard Taiwo is born first, that is why Kehinde means 'came behind' if Kehinde were to be Akobi, then the name 'kehinde' would not exist, the name literally already places kehinde as 'born behind taiwo'

I didnt read all of your posts, because i know every post of yours is full of nonsense not worth the time of a sane person. So its not every time you mention me i read what you mention me to. I am far too mentally removed from the idea of back and forts so i avoid that, i have realized that there is a bigger problem in yorubaland and all of africa that is causing this madness and my posts cannot heal you
Endeavor to learn more about your culture and try engaging with Isese people...that's all i can say

lawani:
it has been proved that modern Yoruba is descended from kenitic Egyptian of 5 thousand years ago. That was the language spoken by the hebrews when they were slaves in Egypt.

1. 5000 years ago, kemitic egypt was just starting.
2. hebrew nation is not as old as 5000 years
3. outside the bible(which is not a credible historical source) hebrews are nowhere recorded to have been slaves in Egypt
4. Yoruba language and Egyptian language are totally different....Egyptian is/was a Cushitic language...i dont see the connection between Cushitic languages and Volta-Niger languages.. so please provide this 'proof' since according to you it has already been proven that Yoruba descended from ancient Egyptian...it should be easy, just direct me to the academic work that contains this proof

Olu317:
I can see that you are desperate to proof a point with your interest in countering the truth with your acquisition of Hebrew knowledge. Although, my advise for you is to do research on old Hebrew, for you to feel the ‘HEAT ' on the possibility of Middle East migration of Yorubas.

Google 'PEH' in Hebrew and read what it represent and used for . This word is an old Hebrew word and how it developed over thousands of years...

Enjoy your search.

i have told you before that i do not stand in your way of proving the possibility of middle eastern origin of yoruba

i even opened a thread for you to answer all my over 30 questions https://www.nairaland.com/4735900/unanswered-questions-yorubas-hebrew-heritage
which you just kept repeating the same thing, thereby wasting my already limited time

But one thing is already established - the yoruba language is a volta-niger language having linguistic origins with other volta-niger languages. So if at all yoruba ancestors came from israel, they would have adopted the yoruba language just as Danes adopted French after settling in Normandy.... even though traces of hebrew 'might' be there the language is still Volta-niger not semitic.

Now your job is to provide proof of this migration and hebrew elements in yorubaland, if you cannot then you should shut up

Swashy4:
Ofe mmanu,shut up. WE HAVE NEVER AND WILL NEVER REFER TO OURDELVES AS YORUBA. WE DONT SHARE ANY SIMILARITY BOTH IN TRADITION,CULTURE AND EVEN 80% OF OUR NAMES ARE IGBO COZ OF OUR IGBO INCEPTION AND FOUNDATION. DONT FLATTER YOURSELF,WE ARE NOT PART OF YOU. WE DONT EVEN KNOW ODUDUWA,NEITHER DO WE EAT AMALA AND EWEDU�..........ALTHOUGH AS I SAID BEFORE IGBOS WERE ALREADY ON GROUND BEFORE THE WARRIORS FRIM AKURE SENT BY THE OBA OF BENIN TO CAPTURE THE IGBOS CAME. AND EVEN STILL NON ACCEPTS BEING REFERRED TO AS YORUBA.

I would rather believe actual family friends of mine who are from Ugbodu, a chief and even the Oloza himself whom i have met than an imposter and troll on nairaland

MetaPhysical:
Those who should grab the ingenuity and multiply its effect are stuck in a rat race, competing and looking for new ways to outshine one another in Euro-centric customs and philosophies. If you want to see them in action, open a thread to analyze any of the Shakespeare's plays, and watch how they soon congregate and blow grammar and pat each other on back about the author. To them Mama Sikira is an illiterate, her rare and artistic stylings were not written about by Skakespeare and is unworthy of their time. Show Ogunde, Ladipo, Ogunmola performing a Yoruba play….our professors of history and language will question the use of rituals and misrepresentation of culture because it is divergent from European and so is backward. They will criticize Ladipo breathing fire to portray Sango and demean it as diabolical. Followup on that and show them Matrix and how Keanu Reeves bend the element to dodge bullets....show them Harry Potter and the Sorcerer....or even Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. Their excitement will know no bounds….

Harry Potter became an overnight success because the ingenuity of his plays has multiplying effects. Behind the scenes he is replaying what Yoruba has taken to stage as far back as 1950s and even earlier. Duro Ladipo took Oba Koso to Germany in 1964 and breathed fire on stage and they loved it, they did not criticize it. That success opened new doors for him to tour London, Paris, Switzerland, Brazil, America. Here at home our professors ridicule his value to society. Today, Yoruba has no library of arts or endowments dedicated to preservation of works by the likes of Ogunde, Ladipo and rest. We do not have the structure to reproduce and sustain their creativity. So why do we have Professors of History and Linguistics? Of what benefit are they to our society?

I must stress again, just share what you can. In fact I will admonish you not to share all...keep the most valuable of your findings and research work close to your breast and cherish them away from Nairaland, for interaction amongst higher intellectuals that can appreciate, maybe not necessarily agree....but they are awakened by it nonetheless.

ok this is just clownish. Even i can clown but this is overboard to a high degree of dishonesty.

ObalufonIII and I, are known to represent everything authentic yoruba on this forum. I am yet to see a better moniker... this your 'eurocentric' allegation is not only ridiculously far-fetched but actually hypocritical, i mean how does a person who is so swayed by foreign beliefs to the extent of trying to reconcile his 'kafir' and 'pagan' yoruba ancestry to his foreign religion accusing people who are traditionally grounded on bashing traditional stuff What traditional knowledge do you possess? what traditional activity do you perform?
imagine you compare your nonsense to the works of Duro Ladipo and Ogunde. Where on this forum have you mentioned yoruba strictly to portray yoruba in its glory without references to arabs or other semitic people as if to imply the yoruba cannot be relevant without them?

You are distorting everything yoruba and turning history, traditions and language up side down and still want to claim to stand for the very identity you want to supplant and replace with a semitic based one? of course you cant succeed but how many people will you mislead eventually? how many people who have a growing urge to reconnect to their Yoruba traditions due to not being knowledgeable will be deceived by your fake persona of standing for Yoruba?



You can never know the benefit of historians and linguists because you do not appreciate history or linguistics. you claim to have knowledge of yoruba origin based on language similarity of which you have listed several examples but absolutely none after years of looking for semitic words in yoruba language, are a result of any methodology
you said Aramean is Oranmiyan...how? what is the corrolation? do they have similar meanings, do they make up the same root words when broken down? no follow up, no re-testable method used to arrive at this conclusion because you lack the skills of a proper linguist...yet you sit somewhere trying to trash talk your betters

imagine someone who claims to be interested in origin of a people who asks whats the benefit of historians and linguists?

imagine 1 million people like this in yorubaland, the entire yoruba identity will be lost in no time...that is probably the aim anyway

want2knowben:
1. Did you miss the bit where I told you Jesus/Yeshua/Eisu/Eshu is not foreign to the Yoruba?

2. I acknowledge that Christianity and Islam are from the Yoruba religion. Or do you just like arguing for the sake of it?

3. Or are you just angry that YeHoWah who is the owner of all languages bypassed you and all your Professors to give the accurate decoding of Paleo-Hebrew to a non-professor? Learning requires openmindedness, my 'lost' brother.

I am proud to be an oYOiRUaBAoore(of the Hii-aBa-ooRe translated as Hebrew by the English), called by Oba Adeda Aseda Ameda to be set apart!

1. i dont even know why i bother because i know you have no answers but, let me still ask... what are the connecting points in the life of jesus and that of Esu?
bare in mind that you need to know Esu as much as you know Jesus, where his home was, his oriki, his friends/disciples(or lack thereof), his death, his birth, his miracles, his mischief and smarts(or lack thereof), his ascension(or lack of such) the etymological meaning of Esu and how it relates to that of Jesus to claim Esu and Jesus are the same person

So there since you wanted me to address your Esu/Jesus point so bad...but of course i know what your next post will be like (ie. ignoring the questions)

2. Ok..but you still choose christianity over the original? wonderful!

3. quality comedy, i would laugh if this wasnt so stupid to be coming from a so called yoruba person....P.s oh! you actually are not
4. I see, so you are not yoruba but oYOiRUaBAoore(of the [i]Hii-aBa-ooRe... I have never met anyone like that, must be a new ethnicity
is insanity a norm to your people? even the name screams 'NOT WELL'

want2knowben:
The current Ooni of Ife (Kabiyesi Enitan Ogunwusi)acknowledges that Christianity and Islam came out of our traditional religion. There is a video of him making the acknowledgement, and in the same video he mentions that the first person to create congregatory style of worship is a gentleman by the name 'Ogun Osoosi'. My own further research led me to the root word for Church. I found 'Circe'. Now, I can assure you that 'Circe' is an European rendering of 'Soosi' which later became Church, and is still used in other European languages. Where have you been? ����

Heard that Greek 'myth' of Hercules abducting a black woman by the name Europa from Africa, with whom he created the first civilisation with? No?

[s]
Homework : Say the word 'Yoruba' 10 times. Now say the word 'Europa' 10 times (say it like an European). Now say each word one after the other until you get the point I am trying to make! I know you are brainy!

The Yoruba, by whatever name they may have been known by in ancient times, have been around for a veeeeeeeeeery long time, and Britain knows this![/s]

lmao Ooni ogunwusi who has had a hard time coming to terms with his traditional duties which normally stand in contrast with his christian beliefs? same ogunwusi with no traditional background? same ogunwusi who said tower of babel and garden of eden are in Ife?

Sane people will take that seriously only if the etymology of Osoosi relates with church. 'church' etymologically means 'what belongs to the Lord' from greek 'kuriakon'. 'Osoosi' could mean 'guardian of the water bird' (who happens to be associated a lot with birds) or 'guardian on the left', it could also simply be a shortened form of a compound name but whatever the case it would be taken seriously when people are provided with the relation in etymology. how did kuriakon become osoosi
And i thought you said yorubas are hebrews? hebrews do not use any form of the word 'church', their place of worship is synagogue and hebrews have no business with a church

One problem with you lost and confused souls is that you never stick to one argument, you never drive one point through to fruition but quickly reach a wall and turn to pick up another claim and point of argument, then that one gets out of reach and you pick another one leaving nothing but a mess behind you

@bold, Zeus, Phoenicia, semitic woman not Hercules, Africa, black woman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_(consort_of_Zeus)

want2knowben:
YaQuBuEl is not the Paleo root for Jacob. The Yoruba you write today is an evolved form, so minor differences in lettering should be expected. Besides, 'iparoje' (contraction) features heavily in the Yoruba language, where consonants and vowels are omitted in speech or in writing. If you compared King James's English at the time of the original translation of the KJV Bible to today's English, you would see how the language evolved. (Missed adding to the original post that Jacob, true to his name, took Esau's birthright. O gba Egbon lowo Esau', as seen in the Yoruba saying A'kehinde gb'egbon. ) You would readily embrace anything and everything western while you reject your own culture, tradition and identity.

Jejelola's work confirmed my own prior findings and suspicions, and his work of translating the Torah Paleo text continues. In saner climes, he'll be cherished for his findings and assisted to complete his work, even if he were a 10 yr old. In Nigeria and with minds like yours, he has to queue behind dead and tired people for his work to be given any recognisance.

Carry on believing in your Professors, Bro! Any of them proved God yet? Or translated the Torah yet? Jesus was never a Professor, and neither were many Yoruba heroes of old! That said, other Professors support the claim that Yorubas are descendants of Jacob. All knowledge and wisdom is not written.

The Nigeria of today is a boiling pot of descendants of the biblical Israelites, Arabs, Egyptians and many of the tribes around them, living together like they did in biblical times. You may belong to one of those assimilated by the Yorubas.

I will choose not to waste further time in a back and forth because i believe all my earlier posts were substantial enough on this topic but that bolded part is just hilarious really? i embrace everything western and reject my traditions and identity says the guy who not only is ignorant of yoruba traditions but worships an imported god and wants to be hebrew so bad he doesnt mind tarnishing and ridiculing his ancestors
How did the knowledge of hebrews get to you? was it not the western powers who thought it would be to their benefit to convert you to their religion, which you follow all so gleefully. If these western powers never converted you would you be christian?
lmao now hebrew is your identity lost soul ...but hebrew is not yoruba identity

want2knowben:
If it was a dialect issue, then they would have no problems pronouncing it. Even Arabic has several dialects, and it is not unusual that a family/tribe/community will have a dialect slightly different from the others.




The very languages that are Semitic/semitic related were grouped separately in a very fine attempt to remove the real Israelites far from their identity.

You will note that the Yoruba refer to the English language as Geesi, when in fact they had erroneously thought English was the language of the gospel (Ge'ez/ Amharic) that their ancestors knew that had been brought back to them once again. The Yoruba kept moving away from war and religious persecution until they found a place free from persecution to settle in.

Can you explain to me why on earth Yoruba is the only language that you can use to successfully and correctly translate Paleo-Hebrew?




Like every other Orisha in Yorubaland, Esu Odaara was an hero, especially as he did worked 'opopolopo ara'. The majority didn't accept him to be the Son of God that he said he was. Orisha worship is ancestral worship. Idol worship in Yoruba land is ancestral worship gone horribly wrong. Jesus (Eisu/Yeshua) never asked to be cast as an idol, never mind a palm-oil drinking one! He taught them about spiritual worship.

These things were already prophesied. The nations would work together to erase the name of Israel of the surface of the earth. Israel would forget who they were. They would be scattered to the corners of the earth. God would bring them back to him.

There is nothing hidden that will not be revealed. Oju wa lo ma se!

smh.

you obviously dont have any form of research collating experience, i'm sure you didnt go to school if this is what come up with
but you know what, christianity has already done enough damage to the yoruba nation, there is nothing i will say or no questions i will ask to try to get you to question your stance that will be of any good...because for you this is about connecting to the people who you believe are the chosen people of your god

There is no traditionalist or academician can take you people seriously, its only fellow poorly educated christians so what is already bad enough cannot get worse

I'll just leave this here,
Genetic, linguistic and cultural evidence are all unanimously on the same page that Yoruba are a native west african people sharing a common origin with her neighbors

the mission your church gave you can not make anything worse than it already is

want2knowben:
For a people who have lost connection to their roots and identity mainly to devastation of war and displacement, 'mirrors' of the originals will do for them, where they are unable to accurately replicate the originals.

Terah, Abraham, Isaac, Esau, Jacob are all in Yoruba oral traditions and we hear them being talked about everyday but we never make the connections because we are used to 'anglicised' biblical terms and names. Example is when Yoruba say, 'Akehinde gbe'gbon', they are are referencing 'Esau and Jacob'. Prince Jejelola restores the meaning of the name 'Jacob' by inserting letters into the Paleo-Hebrew consonants to give 'oYa-aKWobi' (capitals are the PALEO root), i.e the 'one who surpasses/overtakes the firstborn'. 'kw' is the same as 'q' sound, so you have yaqov, yaqov, yaqoob, yakob, jacobi, and Jacob, as variations and translations of the name. God knew what he was doing when he let them write Paleo unvowelised; it was for the purpose of accurate identification of the real sons of OYaaKWoBi in these end times.

You are educated; pls, do your own research. What I know did not fall on my laps. I yearned, I researched, I doubted, I believed, I learned, and still continue to do so. (I have also recommended an author. Grab a copy of his book on restored Hebrew names; you will be convinced beyond reasonable doubt).

So yoruba came from israel but forgot , but somehow traditionalists dont know this, it takes a christian who knows nothing of yoruba traditions to find this out
Like i said your religion has fried your brain

Grand master of yoruba oral traditions who runs away from the same traditions to christianity, oya tell me what are the yoruba names of Terah, Abraham, Isaac etc that you mentioned... also Oyakwobi is not yoruba as the language doesn't have instances of 'kw' , and even if i correct that to Oyakobi, it doesnt have any meaning in yoruba, so throw that 'one who surpasses the first born' translation out to the trash
Its interesting as Jacob actually is originally ya-qu-ub-el which means 'may El protect' having nothing to do with 'one who surpasses the first born'

The same name is recorded earlier still, in c. 1800 BC, in cuneiform inscriptions (spelled ya-ah-qu-ub-el, ya-qu-ub-el).[4] The suggestion that the personal name may be shortened from this compound name, which would translate to "may El protect", originates with Bright (1960).[5] The Septuagint renders the name Ιακωβος, whence Latin Jacobus, English Jacob.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob#Etymology

Is this prince of yours a linguist? does he have an academic background in comparative linguistics or he's just another uneducated unemployed clown?
What method did he use to ascertain what letters can be used to produce an accurate reconstruction/reverse transliteration? and can this same example be used in other names, or we follow a different style with each new name?

I have seen a copy of his book, i see he is sponsored by mfm(mountain of fire) a church known to be an enemy of the yoruba identity, with their constant attacks against yoruba traditions and any respect for ancestry. Many are mad few are roaming

if you want to learn yoruba history and origins, seek actual historians...one of the leading yoruba historians today is Prof. Banji Akintoye
there are many professors of history in yorubaland who might not have published books but have journals that you can get for a small fee
Even linguists and geneticists can be of contribution to the field...Get books or academic articles of african languages and Dna analysis in Africa
You can get some of these things online in pdf format, some universities allow some materials out , if you need further help you can ask a student or a professor to get you access to more materials

Scholarship is not easy, you dont just let some nonsense jobless guy feed you nonsense...was his book reviewed by an academic team yet? or endorsed by any university?