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FOLYKAZE:
I am always on nairaland. Most times read threads anonymously and only jump in when I find topics that interesting. The whole section now dry bro... From Religion section to Culture, politics and even Business.

Like someone said, maybe someone has given Ooni an Igbo girl. Ooni is in love and pacifying with his in laws .

FOLYKAZE:
Sup Man. Been a while. Hope you are in good health?

On topic, I disagree with you though. Igbo been mentioned here are those in Southern Ondo state. These are the people that have relationship with with Obatala. I believe you know the history more than I do, and should see it from the Obatala angle.

MetaPhysical:

Did you notice where Ooni said the IBO race? It is deliberate to distinguish them as a separate people from Yoruba race. In other words, he is referring to a people not in any way belonging in the Yoruba Commonwealth. It cannot be Ugbo of Ondo.

I believe you hit the nail on its head, this statement of Ooni is political and not a historical account. Obatala according to history and legend belongs to humanity and as the King (Oba) of The Realms (Atala) he embodies all elements of the four corners of the universe. To single him out as belonging to Ibos, OOni is talking about the single principle of Entrepreneurship and Commerce (Aje) and in contrast to claims by Oba Akinruntan of Ugbo claiming supremacy and superiority over Ife.

FOLYKAZE:
Dont mind that fool. I have activated ignore button on his mention.

That some people don't brag or make noise about relationship with Jew doesn't the belief is not outthere.

Ugbo people founded the first Yorubanized Christianity. C/S mount Zion has it headquarter in Igbonla (a town in Ugbo kingdom). And they practise Judaism, primarily mosaic Christianity. The church was founded by Oba Zion Lene who is a son of Ugbo land. They believe they are Jew. I know this because I was a member...snr cherubim. One funny thing is that they are Yoruba first because attaching with Jew.

Definitely Ooni is referring to Ugbo people and dont these Beast of no Nations.

AKswift:
This is deep!

Well, he needs verifiable evidence to support his claims.

RealKingDavid:
According to the bible, Israel is made up of twelve tribes but the tribes of Judah and Levi and Benjamin all stand under the kingdom of Judah, while the other nine tribes form to make the kingdom of Israel
So the kingdoms of Judah and Israel were separated until the kingdom of Israel (the nine tribes) were carried away captives to all corners of the earth..
There's no country today that you won't find at least one family of Israel and Judah
Few years after Isreal was carried away captive, Judah was also carried captive by King of Babylon.
After 70 years the kingdom of Judah was released to go back to their land and build up the waste places...
They rebuilt the temple even in troubled times , the temple was built and Jesus was born , after Jesus was killed the temple was burnt with fire again and will not be built again till Jesus comes back.
Note that the kingdom of Isreal are still in captivity even till this day.
The kingdom of Judah are the remnant of Isreal that stills lives in their land even till this day.
The Yoruba people don't even know about this truth but your leaders know, some of your prophets know but won't say the truth.
But very soon the truth will be exposed when the two witnesses start their ministry in the city of Jerusalem
FYI : Jerusalem is Lagos state
And as for Igbo tribe and Hausa Tribes the book of Ezekiel has already explained that .


“And I will turn again their captivity, the captivity of Sodom and her daughters, and the captivity of Samaria and her daughters, and the captivity of thy captives in the midst of them;”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭16:53‬ ‭ASV‬‬
sorry but this is the truth and you'll know very soon

lawani:
You can't wish away the mentioned Lamurudu and it was not from Muslims since Nimrod was not mentioned in the quran

Dartilo:
No longer from mecca, the lamurrudu connection, stop hiding from the truth he was a Benin Prince

sherlock229:
Yoruba and Igbos are very different culturally and linguistically. the similar words are just due to assimilation, igala for example assimilated with igbos and igalas language is mostly similar with yorubas .

all Niger congo languages are similar at one point anyways but it's superficial.

Weedfree:
DUDE where did u learn how to read I wrote a flute that was used during the coronation of Awujale is still being used in Ethiopia. There is one account about the olu iwa given is daughter to oduduwa but that would mean ife is older when it is not check.
And I do read history of ijebu and oral account in fact I am friends with one of the ruling family's in ijebu land who also told me of is own history which doesn't correspond to what u are saying.
So from ur account ife owodaiye is actually owodaiye on them where was it located cause I can tell u where the Ijebu own is located. Osinumise migrated to ijebu ode with Ajebu and Olode.
But if u check the list of past and present Awujales in ijebu land it goes as follows
OLU IWA
OSHI
OBANTA
MONIGBUWA
And goes on, the list mentioned olu iwa as an ijebu king not a title.
Get ur facts straight and don t be ignorant.

Weedfree:
Are u so lazy that u can't check it by yourself, the Awujale himself said that the ijebus are from owodaiye empire he even stated that a particular flute used during the of the Awujale is used in Ethiopia. Olu iwa is the ruler the Negede orit's (the first wave of Ethiopians that first arrive in africa) and olu iwa is older than oduduwa because the fifth Awujale not the first helped restore oduduwa sight which was stated by the Awujale.
There it is the evidence that u wanted if you are not satisfied check it by yourself and by the time u do u will realise how much of a fool u are maybe then u will shut up cause right now u act an mindless fool.
And u said I like insulting when u first insulted me u brainless monkey.

Weedfree:
wow so i guess u don't like it when they drag family into this but u kept on insulting mine that just show u how u were brought up a annoying little boy with no self-control.
And I am doing pretty good and no I am not arrogant I Just correct retarded people like u. ur parent failed to bring u up right u are probably a disappointment to everyone, ur family raised such a disappointment I just feel sorry for them that u are the way u are.
To proof ur point why don't u check it or are u afraid u well realize what everybody already know halfwit who just keeps disgracing himself. ur are nothing but a clown with a low IQ rate.

wow so i guess u don't like it when they drag family into this but u kept on insulting mine that just show u how u were brought up a annoying little boy with no self-control.
And I am doing pretty good and no I am not arrogant I Just correct retarded people like u. ur parent failed to bring u up right u are probably a disappointment to everyone, ur family raised such a disappointment I just feel sorry for them that u are the way u are.
To proof ur point why don't u check it or are u afraid u well realize what everybody already know halfwit who just keeps disgracing himself. ur are nothing but a clown with a low IQ rate.

Weedfree:
So if u think it is a title then who bears it, if it not sure u could check it online and save yourself from being disgrace any longer.
Maybe it is u and ur worthless family that have such beliefs. I didn't want to bring ur family into this but u started it. It may be because of the way they brought u up that u are the way u are and ur probably going to end up a poor man for u don't know how u are insulting. Kindly don't take out your sad excuse of a life on me.

Weedfree:
Dude, seriously you bring family into this. How low can you go? You are lower than the crust of earth. You are a spine less fool to bring my family. But I am not angry because of how your ancestors have been servants to the Ijebu Ancestors, who are royals. If only you had the intelligence of your ancestors ,you be more fulfil in your quest for knowledge.
U can't even differentiate between OLU-IWA and OLU IWO u twit u are not even worth my time to be clear u are beneath me.

Weedfree:
Dude u still belief in the fairy tales of gods who delivered u into the hands of the Whitemen.
U Dimwit the first Awujale was OLU-IWA the man rumoured to have been the ruler that the Ethiopians met when they first arrived in Africa.
The god of ijebu kingdom is Alare not Olodumare.
And why are u people arguing with me about ijebu on a Benin Trend for Benin matters not ijebu matters so if u won't to argue with me create an ijebu site or if the owner dosen' t mind we can continue.

Dartilo:
Lets b realistic here yoruba founded benin,y don't u keep mute if u don't know what to say...
Before the second dynasty in benin there were Ogiso kings meaning gods of the sky and about 36rule Benin before oranmiyan came lets imagine each of the ogiso rule ten yrs each that equal 360 of ogiso rule,so therefore benin has been in existence bfor Oduduwa existed...

Oduduwa was a benin prince and heir to the throne in benin,but he was forcefully banish from benin and for the fear of it's life he ran along with it's followers to a place e called ile ife(i ran and i escape in benin language) on getting there he claim its identity as a son of a king a descendant of ogiso(god's of the sky)and they tot he fell from the sky and he chose a new name as Izoduwa(meaning i hve chose my path of prosperity in benin)now corrupted as oduduwa....

To set d record straight ryt from time immemorial ile ife has always been a small town, did ile ife conquer benin to mke oranmiyan king in benin...

After the death of the last ogiso know as ogiso owodo in benin,there was a civil war in benin different people wanted power so the five kings maker decided to look for the banish prince oduduwa of benin..Now oduduwa was now old so he sent it's son oranmiyan,oranmiyan met the war and oranmiyan never enter benin bcoz he was scared of being assasinated out of anger her left and called the city ubini meaning land of anger and he went to oyo....



Now in Oyo oranmiyan was said to be a great warror that he single handedly conquer the people he met there and made himself Alafin...
Now my question :why did he not singlehandedly conquer benin,or was it because he knew this were his people or he is a coward dat just ran away...

Why will benin run to ife to giv dem king since ife didn't colonize dem and since odudwa was d first oni and benin had36 ogiso already....
All this are simple logic

Weedfree:
Oloriburuku. U really are a fool among fools among all the people to disturb you choose me that is the biggest mistake u will make and those fools that like ur post are nothing but dumb a**. Opolo e wa ni furu e. U don't even know the history of ijebu land that u think they are yoruba.
So u know that they are not Yoruba people here are some of the evidence to educate u on ur dummkopf, hammerhead,ignoramus, lamebrain,nincompoop,ratbag, woodenhead, simpleton, pray, buffoon,clown,stupe. I shall cure u of ur stupidity.
Sungbo Eredo is older than ile ife the origin of the Yoruba people.
When oduduwa was blind the fifth Awujale have oduduwa the water he needed to see. Oduduwa meant the fifth Awujale not the first.
And this one even the Awujale of ijebu land said the ijebus are from Sudan in the Owodaiye empire.
The ijebu dialect is the oldest dialect not the ife dialect and the Awujale said the itsekiri speak the original ijebu dialect.
So from this point i said I hope u have began to think before u say stupid things. I mean really the Awujale said so and u are still questioning it or u think u know more than the Awujale. Don't mess with me punk or next time I won't be so merciful.

titiloyeblog:
news @ titiloyeblog.com

A 35-year old man, Mr, Paul Nosakhare, has told an Oredo Magistrate Court of how he caught his newly married wife, Stella Maris Alegbe, with his Pastor, Joseph Igwemoh, Head of the Global Influence Ministry.

Pastor Igwemoh was last year arraigned on two count charges bothering on abduction and act likely to cause breach of peace was accused of sleeping with Stella inside his church.

At the resumed hearing of the case, Paul, during cross examination told the court he served as an Assistant Pastor to the suspect before the sexual scandal broke out.

Paul said he met Stella through Pastor Igwemoh and they courted for four years before they got married on March 24, 2018.

He said marriage lasted only three months as his wife moved out in July after the Pastor rented an apartment for her.

He stated that Pastor Igwemoh warned them not to have sexual intercourse until proper marriage is done while they were courting.

Paul said his wife denied him sex on the first and second night of their wedding which was conducted by Igwemoh.

According to his statement on oath before the court: ”I reported my wife refusal for me to have sex with her to my pastor who invited us to his office and advised both of us to be using condom for the period of three months.

“I was puzzled but I did not say anything because he is my pastor.

“There was a day I returned Pastor’s car to him in the church. I met one Pastor Comfort who told me Pastor was inside the office. After knocking severally, the Pastor refused to open the door but he switched off the light.

“After five minutes, I saw my wife coming out of Pastor’s office ruffled and sweating profusely. Pastor came out of the office and was wearing boxers and singlet.

“On June 17th, I went to the Pastor’s office and met my wife. The pastor was lying down in the bed while my wife was sitting on the floor very close to the Pastor.

“I asked my wife to follow me home but she to say saying she has not finished with the pastor. She returned home at 7pm.”

Paul said all efforts for him to make the marriage work failed as his wife moved out on July 6th, 2018.

Presiding Magistrate, I.U. Iyioha adjourned further hearing to March 21, 2019.


source: https://www.titiloyeblog.com/2019/03/how-i-caught-my-wife-with-my-pastor.html

nairavsdollars:
Asiwaju Bola Tinubu, National Leader of the All Progressives Congress (APC) and co-chairman of APC Presidential Campaign Council spoke with journalists in Alausa, Ikeja after voting in last Saturday’s Presidential and National Assembly Elections on the chances of his party and other issues. TEMIDAYO AKINSUYI brings the excerpts:

How would you assess the election so far?

It is peaceful. So far; so good. It demonstrated the resilience of Nigerians. We are using one of the best and difficult ways to select our representatives. Even democracy is not the easiest project to manage; it is not the easiest system to maintain, but with resilience and strong determination, we are getting there and we are making progress. This morning (Saturday) I can say within this polling unit and some other ones that I have passed through, they are doing well.

How would you describe the comportment of the electorate who trooped out to cast their votes?

I commend them because despite the fact that the elections were postponed last week Saturday, they were still excited and ready to cast their votes despite the postponement. There could be frustration and disappointment at one point or the other. But we could see that it was not deliberate. We could see that the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC), as the umpire, gave us very good briefing throughout the week; giving us progress report. That is taking response to bullet. That is being open; that is being honest. We must move ahead; that is what we need in Nigeria and in a democratic society.

If the people of Nigeria vote out your party, what would you do?

I will say we will accept it; that is peoples’ verdict; that is their decision. Any democrats that cannot accept the results of free and fair elections, is not worthy of the name. You must be able to accept the results of a free and fair election.

What is your hope? Do you think you can win this election?

My hope and determination and for my party is that we are winning.

What gives you the confidence?

Because we have the support of the people. Look back and look at our rallies alone, that is an indication of who have the populace; the ordinary people. We are not talking about the elite; the rich. We are talking about ordinary farmers, traders, artisans and the common men. We are talking about parents whose children are feeding now at least once a day. We are talking about those people. They have to be grateful and still continue with him.

If the opposition rejects the result, what happens?

They are not democrats. They don’t believe in value and philosophy; you will see their desperation and they cannot claim to be democrats.

There have been complaints about logistics in some areas of Lagos State. Are you satisfied with the performance of INEC?

I am satisfied with what INEC is doing so far. You don’t drive yourself like a vehicle. You can easily develop fuel pomp problem on the highway. It is something that is mechanic. INEC said it experienced bad weather last week. I fly a lot. I have come to a situation where I got to an airport in this country and after spending two hours, we could not land. You cannot but accept nature. That one is beyond you.

There are allegations that your party is planning to rig the election. For example, there are pictures online that surface about bullion vans coming out of your premises?

Bullion vans; are they ballot papers? Where am I voting now?

There are allegations that those bullion vans carry money or ballot to rig election?

Is it my money or government money? I don’t work for government. I am not in the agencies of government. And let anybody come out to say I have taken any contracts from the government of President Muhammadu Buhari or All Progressives Congress (APC) in the last four years. They should prove it. I am on my own and I am committed to my party. So, even if I have money to spend in my premises; what is your headache? If I don’t represent any agency of government and I have money to spend, can’t is spend it? If I have money and give it to the people free of charge as long as it is not to buy votes. You are talking of yesterday; so who are those watching my house and seeing bullion vans; they must be mischief-makers. They are lazy people and liars.

How would you describe the electoral process in Nigeria?

None of you became adult suddenly in one day. Without the advent of science and technology, you wait until the delivery before you can even identify the sex of a child. In your home, to raise your children and to even organise your kitchen and your living room, it takes time, perseverance, tolerance, endurance, consistency and strong determination, that we have adopted in democracy and that we want it to grow. So, we leave with the hate and pains, peace and value of it and then, we would move on.
https://www.independent.ng/those-who-reject-election-results-are-not-democrats-tinubu/

goalernestman:
The Powerful Kingdom in Nigeria and first Empire recognized by foreign traders was (Ubini) Edo Kingdom. The Edo King captured many towns such as Eko which is now Lagos and also captured Ijebu and Edo Kingdom was stretched from Ijebu and Lagos to Republic of Darhomey which is now change to Republic of Benin. Respect for the priestly functions of the Oni of Ife was a crucial factor in the evolution of Yoruba ethnicity. The Ife model of government was adept and derived its military strength from its cavalry forces, which established hegemony over the adjacent Nupe and the Borgu kingdoms and thereby developed trade routes farther to the north.

Edoland established a community in the Yoruba-speaking area east of Ubini before becoming a dependency of Benin Kingdom at the beginning of the 14th century. By the 15th century it became an independent trading power, blocking Ife's access to the coastal ports as Oyo had cut off the mother city from the savanna. Political and religious authority resided in the oba (king) who according to tradition was descended from the Ogiso dynasty in Benin Kingdom. Benin, which may have housed much inhabitants at its height, spread over large square km that were enclosed by concentric rings of earthworks. By the late 15th century Edo Kingdom was in contact with Portugal who discovered an Empire of great men with civilization and resources (palm oil, ivory, cotton etc.) which was traded through a trade of import and export of natural resources which has been part of Edo culture. At its apogee in the 16th and 17th centuries, Edo encompassed parts of southeastern Yorubaland,and the western parts of the present Delta State.

goalernestman:
Portuguese traders were said to be the first set of explorers that found Calabar as a safe haven for commercial activities. Their arrival which later attracted other European explorers, brought about the commercial and religious boom that brought Calabar to fame.


The old Residency building


Mudiaga Affe

Calabar, the capital of Cross River State in today’s 21st century Nigeria was before 1914 the capital of the Southern Protectorate. It lost the status to Lagos when the southern and northern protectorates were merged to become what is today known as Nigeria.

Despite losing the status over 100 years ago, relics and tales of a former capital still abound in the ‘Paradise City’.



One of the most prominent edifices that will remind any tourist of the city as a capital city is the ‘Old Residency’, otherwise known as ‘Government House’ which has now become a national monument.

The Old Residency building, originally known as ‘Government House’ was fabricated in Britain in 1884 and erected at old Calabar to accommodate British administration of the Niger Coast Territories.

The edifice, which was renovated in 1986 by the National Museum and Monument, was declared a national monument (No. 20) in 1959. It was the seat of the Oil Rivers and Niger Coast Protectorates and the Protectorate of Southern Nigeria (after 1914) of the resident of the old Calabar province.

In the 1950s, the building served as a ministerial guest house and after the Nigerian civil war, it accommodated the then South Eastern State of Nigeria.

Portuguese traders were said to be the first set of explorers that found Calabar as a safe haven for commercial activities. Their arrival which later attracted other European explorers, brought about the commercial and religious boom that brought Calabar to fame.

While the commercial aspect of the European exploration may have gone into extinction following dilapidated buildings of United African Company, John Holt, Yamaha, among others that are scattered around the Bay Side axis of Calabar, the religious facet has survived for over a century with exponential expansion.

During the era of slave trade, the Calabar waterways was a major exporting route used by the European traders. It is on record that out of the 2, 579, 400 slaves that were traded out of Africa between 1690 and 1807, about 31.1 per cent of them emanated from bight of benin Calabar

and also recorded that the first visit of the European to Nigeria was in calaba in 1486 AD, and the first king that sign agreement for them to enable them trade with ss se sw nigeria was oba eware .

goalernestman:
but when they came to Nigeria they saw benin make an agreement with benin give them control over the south west east of Nigeria the only kingdom benin could not give them control over was dahomey because it was another kingdom of it own, they traded with benin Nigeria then in 400 years. i can give u evidence of this.

the first place they visited in nigeria was calaba who direct them to [ nigeria city benin benin then] oba of benin telling them is the emperor of Nigeria benin then in 14th century. they came to meet oba ewara who was recorded by Portuguese and benin as the first king of nigeria to meet the European

goalernestman:
there was no biafra and they were bight of biafra, if there was no biafra was kingdom was there in present day Cameroon from 1400 years to 1900 years ago. europen first came to west africa in 14th century meaning 1400 years ago and they meet Ghana Dahomey Benin biafra. if this kingdom is not what they meet why not bring your fact.

goalernestman:
do you see igbo in what i post. in European record of west Africa there was no igbo or yoruba, only
1 Dahomey present day Benin
2 Benin who have bight of benin named to a ocean that flows below it, present day Nigeria
3 biafra present day Cameroon.
note i never mention igbo kingdom

goalernestman:
British account of west Africa from 14 century to 19 century

steveosaz:
First of all, this thread was opened by a fool for the exclusive pleasure of idiots. These are people with no sense of history who are basically crude manufacturers of history. One of them made this observation



To which one of the ignorant fools had this moronic response



...and then this completely unfortunate pig who is totally unconcerned about unraveling his chequered history but strangely has an inexplicable interest in the story of others. That's classical Yoruba hypocrisy in action being demonstrated by a yorubastard!

OrlandoOwoh:
This question is a corollary of the submission of Musiwa in a question related to the name, asked in a thread in the politics section. According to Musiwa, whose submission I buttressed after questioning some elderly people, the name doesn't have a meaning. If you break it into "oba" and "sanjo", the meaning you get makes you cast some doubt: Oba (king) and sanjo (to reward something good done to). While it's common for 'ordinary' people to reward each other it's doubtful and unheard of that an oba rewards the way 'ordindary' people do. What do you think?

xolomonstrides:
Why leave exposed research and follow the unexposed.
Well that he blended well does not mean he spoke the same language. The white man came to Nigeria and they blended well.