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achorladey:
Ecclesiastes 5:4-5 compare to Luke 9:62

When you make a vow to God, do not delay to fulfill it. He has no pleasure in fools; fulfill your vow. 5 It is better not to make a vow than to make one and not fulfill it.

Luke 9: 62 Jesus replied, “No one who puts a hand to the plow and looks back is fit for service in the kingdom of God.”


John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

The above are the key verses you have applied to my question of which you can't still answer.

It means you hate him. What did your Jesus say you should do to your neighbours?

You are still dancing round and round with ifs



So those who study with your religious organisation are FRIENDLY NEIGHBOURS while those that leaves your religious organisation after being a member are HATEFUL NEIGHBOURS . What you have conveyed is that those that leave the religious organisation you belong are HATEFUL NEIGHBOURS to you and your likes.

What did that Jesus you have been quoting up and down with numerous chapter and verse of Bible say you should do to HATEFUL NEIGHBOURS?





Oya bring the words of Jesus about or concerning your HATEFUL NEIGHBOURS

If you understand Jesus better go and apply what he taught!

HellVictorinho4:
Your victims are your converts
To hell with their names!

Thief!

cornelboy:
Death and hell are not literal just as lake of fire. Death and hell are not some material that can burn in a fire. Lake of fire symbolises eternal destruction. You know when something cease to exist. If everyone in the new world would have eternal life through Jesus, logically death and hell couldn't exist. They would have no place in the new world.

You know the first time i began respecting the JWs?
It was the day one of them asked me to explain what other symbolic terms in the book of Revelation means.
Churchgoers and Muslims always emphasize on HellFire or Lake of Fire because Fire is not something strange to us.
OK let them interpret in Revelation:
©Beast's Seven heads and ten horns. 13:1
©Harlot sitting on the Beast. 17:5
©The sea out of which comes the Beast. 13:1
©The four living creatures! 6:1-8
©Locusts out of the smoke! 9:1-3
©What happened to the sea out of which the beast came? 21:1

Let me stop here for now!

Maynman:
Yes, it means “guardian angel” in English language.
If pronounced. It means the Creator.
And your examples are flawed , witness of Jehovah aka William Tyndale.
So in Igbo is “Chi” an Angel?

In the Yorùbá culture it's believed that destinies has been molded along with people's heads, when coming to the earth each traveler goes to carry any of the heads molded by the maker. So whatever happens to the person on planet earth has been destined along with the head the traveler picked. That's why they often use the money they take to Ifá to touch their heads three times before the oracle could reveal what has been destined along with the head they're putting on.
So Ẹlẹdàá and Orí correlates as the guardian angel who knew all that has been destined from the spirit realms. That's why they always inquire from their Ẹlẹdàá or Orí to guard and guide them since it knew everything about their journey on planet earth!

budaatum:
In Yoruba, as in most languages, especially where religious words are concerned, there is nothing like "simply means". One person's imaginary creator can be an imaginary angel to others.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, i owe you one on this buda. You're damn right, it's sometimes contradictory!

achorladey:
Your are the intelligence officer whose mouth keep changing here and there.
will you and your brothers and sisters all over the world still continue to love him?
I didn't ask you about having refreshments with him or greeting him or you now view him as a stranger.
At least I know your intelligence knows you not only greet strangers you equally get to have refreshments with strangers.
Apply your intelligence.
Since you are highlighting
It means you hate him. What did your Jesus say you should do to your neighbours?
Make sure you argue intelligently

Jesus taught by words, thoughts and actions.

As long as someone is dancing to Jesus' tune the person becomes his brother and friend {Matthew 12:46-50; John 15:14} but once you start CRITICIZING Jesus he will refer to you as "Satan's child" {John 8:44} that's why he commanded his followers to dust there feet against whoever failed to accept their teachings! Matthew 10:14-15
So if we are still studying with a stranger he is a friendly neighbour (not our brother) and when he vowed to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses we treat him as a brother and share everything with him just as Jesus commanded us {John 13:34-35; 15:12} but once the person turned his/her back on the vow all Worshipers of JEHOVAH will view him/her the same way our God view people who break vows! Ecclesiastes 5:4-5 compare to Luke 9:62

Just keep on asking and you will get the answers {Matthew 7:7-8} remember millions are reading this, so let them know that both JEHOVAH and Jesus Christ are no longer friends of anyone who turns his/her back on the vows they made before man and God!

There are three common concepts that always confuse many learners in Yorùbá language:
Adẹ́dàá
Aṣẹ̀dàá
Ẹlẹdàá
While the first two sometimes are used for the creator the third "Ẹlẹdàá" simply means the "guardian angel" and most people do refer to it as "Orí".
Though it's all based on common superstition from one culture to another, the Ibos do refer to Ẹlẹdàá as Chi, so while an ibo person will say "Chimo" Yorùbá will say "Ẹlẹdàá mi" both are referring to their imaginary guardian angel!

Maynman:
Ride on witness of William Tyndale. I dey feel this interpretations from watchtower special Bible.

Just know that when we say PARADISE we are not talking about HEAVEN!
Thanks!

cornelboy:
Can't you just make your response precise?

That's oaroloye Mr MISHIGAS!

Maynman:
That’s true, that’s why watchtower specially created a book for their witnesses so no one can impose another on them again

So JWs don't believe heavenly life because it's not for humans {Psalms 115:16} our eternal abode is here on planet earth {Psalms 37:9-11, 29; Proverbs 2:20-22; Matthew 5:5} so when we talk about PARADISE we meant a cleansed earth where all evildoers will be no more! Psalms 52:4-5
We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES not churchgoers!

achorladey:
When I said you find it listen and obey yourself. You think sey na child's play
You see the capture in bold? I know you will change mouth. Here is the evidence below.....
will you and your brothers and sisters all over the world still continue to love him?
Stop changing mouth into send greetings and share moments of refreshments
Reality tells me you greet and share refreshments with strangers.
Oya change mouth again

MaxInDHouse:
Don't kill yourself with HBP, his brothers and sisters throughout the world will always love and appreciate him as long as he remains a JW!

If you want to argue why not do so intelligently?

Maynman:
Heaven don sure for all these ones, wow

Instead of calmly listening to know what people have in mind you go about imposing what you read on them and by the end of the day arguing and accusing them wrongly.

Paradise is not heaven so if you want to know calm down and learn!

OkCornel:
Thanks sir! The Lord bless you exceedingly for your labor of love in his kingdom!

Hope to see you there!

OkCornel:
I respectfully disagree sir

Hope you get a satisfying answer, meanwhile thanks for reading through what over 8,000,000 people globally believe and are zealously working towards it's achievement!

Keep following me, you will learn great things that none of your people throughout the internet can teach you except Jehovah's Witnesses!

OkCornel:
Will this happen after the great tribulation?

NO!
The last among 144,000 of Jesus' Born Again brothers must leave this planet before the great tribulation but it will be shortened because they will not stay long in heaven before their government begins otherwise no single flesh will survive! Matthew 24:22

During the great tribulation all the members of the Governing Body who are preparing the spiritual nourishment JWs need will no longer be here again so the decadence will be speedy as many even among the JWs will join others in support of the one world religion that Satan will initiate by then to drag all the inhabitants of the earth to destruction. Revelations 16:13-14
So on account of the Born Again brothers of Christ who labored to gather us for over a century those days will be shortened for their labor not to be in vain.

achorladey:
When he no longer remains a Jehovah’s witnesses nko?
Oya change mouth that you will still continue to love him

When i send greetings and share moments of refreshments with someone because he's one of Jehovah's Witnesses of course such can't continue when he's no longer a JW.

The major reason why we relate has been erased by him so on what ground do i now relate with one who was a total stranger to me!

OLAADEGBU:
War games!

Kumuyi pikin!

cornelboy:
Revelation 20:14
[14]And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Is hell and death something that could be cast and burn in fire?
Or does the lake of fire symbolise something else?

Surely misinformed Churchgoers can't answer this because they don't even agree on whether their so called Hellfire is metaphorical or literal. So if you ask an average Churchgoer how the dead will be tormented since the dead have no feelings they become provoked!

RussellRutherfo:
You operate multiple Nairaland monikers.
On MaxInDHouse. You are a "ex-general".
On Nobody here. You are ordinary Jehovah witness.
On your other Nairaland monikers.

grandstar:
Wisdomkosi
You look familiar? What congregation do you attend? I'm in Ikeja Secretariat

Don't kill yourself with HBP, his brothers and sisters throughout the world will always love and appreciate him as long as he remains a JW!

Hermes119:
Can GOD do everything?

NO! He CAN'T lie! Titus 1:2

How willing is he to save humans ?

He can't save those who are determined to die!
For instance when God told the perfect human pair (Adam and Eve)
But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die! Genesis 2:17 compare to 3:3
God can save them from dying because there is an antidote for death in the same garden called the tree of life, if God should allow them eat of the tree of life they would have lived till today and that will make GOD a liar so He asked angels to guide the tree of life and drive the first human pair out of the garden {Genesis 3:22-24} ever since then mankind have been searching for the antidote for death but even the wealthiest has failed to find it with all their wealth.
So God CAN only save those who love to keep living not those who doesn't cherish life! John 3:16

HellVictorinho4:
Social media scammer
I know you have eaten

I can list all the people you've begged for cash, can you mention just one victim of my scam?
Ọ̀LẸ̀, OLÈ, ATỌ̀Ọ́LÉ!
I work so i can feed myself, my family and families wella wella!

Question:

How can God fix Nigeria?

Answer:

God has no business with any nation within a geographical location again after condemning the nation of Israel {Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38} the nation God is interested in today is a spiritual nation born out of people from different races throughout the earth who have chosen to be worshipers of the true God {John 4:23-24} they have used the Bible to resolve all their racial disparities, they have diverted all their resources into the production of food and information materials, they have vowed never to make or raise weapons against anyone again and as for military services they've said "GOODBYE" Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

But as for each nation today, they must bear the consequences of what they inculcated in the minds of their young ones. Proverbs 29:17
The true God has just one plan for the entire human race and that is the renovation of the earth and wiping out of it all those ruining the peace on our planet home! Psalms 37:9-11; Proverbs 2:20-22; Revelations 11:18

Well i believe Nijagogetsense has learnt a lot on this topic so when next he's talking about the Bible and what other religions teaches he will be careful due to researchers who have the knowledge of both sides!
The ORÍKÌ of ÈṢÙ proves that this spirit is the same as Satan the devil.
The Yorùbá people uses the ORÍKÌ to trace the ancestral lineage of someone and they strongly believe that once the oríkì correlates then the one been praised with it is from that lineage.
ÈṢÙ has so much in common that spirit called Satan in the Bible that's why it is fitting to call Satan "ÈṢÙ" in the Bible!

So Nijagogetsense has been silenced, shey?

Well thanks for starting what you can't finish!

I'm waiting for Nijagogetsense, until then no comment!

Maynman:
There’s a lot to know about it in Yoruba history, but you are too fixated on Israelites gods. Where in Yoruba history did you read that eshu was cast down by olorun?

Since he mentioned one of the ORÍKÌs of Èṣù i will only engage him:

Nijagogetsense:
Thank you jare. People don't know there is different between Esu laaroye and the fictitious Satani of the bybull.

I'm sorry i meant every word i said that it's over between you and i, farewell!

Nijagogetsense:
Thank you jare. People don't know there is different between Esu laaroye and the fictitious Satani of the bybull.

No doubt false religions claiming Christians have complicated issues for researchers who are trying to know the true God.
But the fact remains that Èṣù and Satan is the same spirit person!

Nijagogetsense:
Thank you jare. People don't know there is different between Esu laaroye and the fictitious Satani of the bybull.

Do you know the ORÍKÌ of Èṣù, Ọláwọ̀lú, Ọláaróyè, ògiri òkò, ẹbọra tíí jẹ́ Ọláátọpa.
Please tell me what you know about this spirit so we can compare him to the Satan described in the Bible.
Thanks!

Hermes119:
So what do you propose
How does "........all these kingdoms" translate to all the modern day governments
You can choose to interprete that passage whichever way you wish,I've read it and I'm literate and I can deduce that the bible states clearly "every government authority comes from God and believers are admonished to obey it" you can twist it the way you like it's up to you

The Bible is a big book of little books so if you read it like a novel you will only know the stories but you can never get the import of it's messages.

So you must carefully read, diligently study, thoroughly meditate and fervently pray for wisdom to gain insight on the scriptures. Proverbs 2:1-5

The only race God had direct dealings with is the Israelites, right from the time He called them out of Egypt they had no human king.
WHY? Because human Kings will always fall into the hands of the overall ruler of the earth (Satan the devil) who misled Adam and Eve to rebel against their Creator! John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19

But for God's people to have a taste of what other nations were experiencing in the hands of human rulers He told Samuel to allow them! 1Samuel 8:4-8
Samuel even told them all they are going to face in the hands of human rulers adding that during that time they will cry unto God for help but He will not listen to their cry! 1Samuel 8:11-18
Jesus is the CHOSEN King that's why he refused to work with Satan's system {John 6:15} because God's Kingdom has nothing to do with DEMOCRACY where it's all about what the people wants, according to Jesus the majority will always be on Satan's side! Matthew 7:13-14

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Hermes119:
Alright
You are taking an interesting position,are you saying that you prefer a society without a modern day government?

There has never been a time God support human government because they're sitting on a seat that doesn't belong to them:
Setting standards for their fellow man! Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9

Where in that passage is it precisely stated that it was referring to all the governments of the world,show me

And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever! Holy Bible

This is your cup of tea,the passage admonishes christians to obey and submit to government authorities and clearly states that all government authorities were established by God whether your denomination agrees with what the scripture says or not that passage is definitely progovernment

Establish in the text needs to be understood in line with what God permitted not that it's His plan from the beginning otherwise He won't say He's coming to destroy them all! Daniel 2:44

Will you like to know what Christianity means?