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So? whats all this about?

Obama is his own worst enemy.He is too far to the left to win the nomination.His inexperience,as reflected in some of his foreign policy utterances,have shown in the last few weeks.Lets face it,if he wasn't half black,he won't have made it this far.

Is hillary clinton more experienced than obama? if she is then let us know what makes her more experieced, being the wife of a preseident does'nt count as experience to me besides hillary is part of the conventional system in washington  that seriously needs to be changed. obama has more bills than her in the senate, he has better judement than her and thats what matters the most not experience she voted for the iraq war without even reading the NIE report and she said she did a personal research and discovered that saddam hussien has WMDs now that she is running for president she is saying that george bush tricked her into voting for the war, no body was more experienced than george bush and cheney before the iraq war but see where their experience has landed the US.

Obama rejected the iraq invasion since when it was'nt popular to do so, besides that he predicted that the US will be in the situation it has found it self in since before the war. thats what is needed in a leader(good judement) not experience no body can be experienced about the presidency except the former persidents them selves. hillary was in the white house she had a failed health care plan and a lot of other failed policies which she single handedly tried to implement. the republicans are just pushing and propelling hillary because they know she will be the easiest person to beat because she is very polarising and has a lot of dirt in her cupboard wait till she gets the nomination then you will know the real hillary by the time the republicans are through with her. hillary is not bill clinton. obama will be the best person for the US but because he is black and a bit too honest i seriously doubt if he will ever win.

As for his so called foreign policy gaffe i will like you to read his speech if you have'nt instead of listening to what the main stream media are saying about him which are all lies. hillary her self made almost the same remark a day after he delivered his speech, all he said was that if the US has actionable intelligence about osama bin laden and  other high valued targets in pakistan and the pakistani government won't or can't act then the US should. the biggest treat to the US national security are in the mountains of north west pakistan, and intelligence has revealed that alqeada's strength is almost as it was in the pre 911 era. should the US allow them  train and come and attack them again or will it be better to go after them and take them out knowing fully well that the pakistani government has no control over those tribal areas where osama and his cronies are hiding.

HHHmmmmm. May God have mercy on some people.

May god have mercy on some people indeed.

I am in finnland, i was in nigeria in July  and i visited some churches, all i was hearing in the churches were give unto god and you will be blessed one pastor in a local church i visited said that people were not recieving enough blessing because they were'nt giving enough money unto god the more you give the more you recieve he said, all i was seeing on TV were messages about god, love, money and prosperity(how prosperous you will be when you give to god) when u look around you will see no love, no money and no prosperity all you see is hate and more hate, poverty, sicknes and suffering. so i tried to compare the situation with what is obtainable here in finnland, most of the people here don't believe in god even if they do they are not as zealous as we the nigerians are.

i have been to church here in finnland, the priest/pastors don't tell people to give money so that they will prosper or recieve blesseing from the lord except for one nigerian that opened a church here and was trying to bring the practice of preaching about prosperity. in nigeria all you hear  in church is that givers never lack and the more you give to god the more you recieve, people are giving but people are not recieving thats no lie. i went to visit a relative in JUTH in jos  when i went to nigeria the hospital was filled with sick people( if you vist a hospital here in finnland you will see very few sick people), armed robbery every where a friend was killed by robbers on his way from bauchi few days before i arrived, every body i meet was complianing about having little or no money every where i went people were begging me for money. these are the same people that go to church and give to god(pastors) every day and yet the are always crying that they have no money or are they sick or they are not secured. why is that so?

The people in  finnland don't give money to god to protect them or make them proeperous yet all nigerians will run to finnland if given the opportunity to come here and enjoy what the finnish people are enjoying. the people here are richer, they live longer, they are happier, more comfortable and definately more BLESSED than the nigerians who spend all their money giving to god and expecting reward.the people here don't give money to god when they go to church  so the question is why will god leave his own in poverty and lack despite their offerings and yet give or bless those that don't offer to him in this case the i am refering to the people of finnland.

you don't need to watch the person beside you,u give accordingly to your heart.the more you give, the more you receive back from God.

If i may ask what do you recieve back from god? is it his blessings? if yes then what are they? to me blessing means, happiness,comfort,prosperity, good health and security which is highly lacking amongst the christians in nigeria who are the ones that give the most unto god. the people here dont give anything to god yet the are FAR more blessed than the christians in nigeria who give all their money to the chruch(pastors) in the name of giving unto god and end up in want and need. why is that so, why will god not bless his own and bless those who don't believe in him pls i need answers? we all know that nigerians dont have the money that these white people have, we dont have their comfort, their average life expectancy is twice that of ours, they are healtier, richer, more organised and yet they dont give anything to god for that, we give,give and give yet we are still lacking behind why is that so? the blessings are not coming upon us as a people, u can say that u are blessed as an individual but when u look at nigeria collectively as a whole u will know that it is far from being Blessed. the pastors are lying they are just decieving people making them give them money in the name of giving unto god. god does not need money people(pastors) do.

So much confussion and madness, why is it that all the religious sects just can not agree on one single issue? there are about a billion catholics in the world who some people here will like to believe are being lead astry(personally i believe a billion people can not all be wrong), there are the white garment and other garment wearing churches, the jehovar witness,the mormans,the protestants, the anglicans and all other people out there trying to prove that their own way is the true way and all the others are lost, how can all the christian denominations all say they are christians and yet refuse to agree on a single thing, some believe in trinity some don't,some believe in rendering songs of priases while dancing and shouting in the churches while others don't. some believe in honoring/worshipping mary some don't, some believe in faith and nothing more while some believe in holiness and nothing else. why all the confusion , lack of direction ,sense of understanding and belief in a single thing? yet they all cliam that they get their inspiration and gudience from the bible. some sect laugh at other sects while some see the other sects as children of the devil who are lost and are headed for eternal ruin. yet the claim that god is not the author of confusion when all the christians are CONFUSED about what to believe and what not to believe due to soo much confusion they seem not to be able t agree on a single thing.

@Mazaje, try spelling god with a capital "G" and not "g" also, you may need to get out of that place to begin to see things in their right perspective.

Whats the right perspective?the nigerian perspective? where people are being lied to about god and money and yet nothing is been done? where people spend all their money on offering onto god and they still die in poverty and lack? i am relating what i am seeing across europe and what is obtainable in nigeria when white people go to church here they offer what they feel like offering they are not compelled to offer anything unto god, if they feel like giving onto the church(pastor and priest) inother to help them they do so if not they don't.

in nigeria its compulsary that you give money to god, they pastors wont tell you to give to the church instead they will tell you to give unto god. people will steal and give to the church(pastors) thinking they are giving unto god, god does not need money and i will repeat it again it's better to go and give money to the sick people in the hospital who can't afford money for their medication or help pay someone's schools fees who is finding it difficult to do so than to take you money to the church in the name of giving onto god.the white people here don't give onto god yet they have all they need we in nigeria spend all we have givng onto god(pastors) and yet we remain in poverty and want. why is that so?

A preacher once talked about the story of an old pagan woman he met on her way to the stream to give offering to her idol. This woman, he said, had two children. One was extremely sick and always looked like she would drop dead the next moment and the other was quite healthy. Man-of-God  tried to talk the woman out of performing human sacrifice but she would not listen to him. So MOG thought, "well she would probably give the sickly child", but how wrong he was when he saw the woman returned with the sickly child. Out of curiousity, he approcahed the woman and asked why she gave the healthy child to her idol instead of the sickly one and she looked at him with a slight frown and said " I will NOT give a SICKLY offering to my god!!!"   

If a pagan knows what is beffiting, how much more the children of the living God.

As per the 5bucks issue, you may want to read Mark 12:41-44 to understand how God sees our offerings.

Shalom

LIES what about those that don't give to  good and are more blessed than all of us? what have you got to say about them? besides what will god do with money? you are not giving to good but to people (the pastors and their cronies) you can never give money to good because god does not need money the pastors need money so they will tell you to give to god while in essence you are giving money to them. god does not and can never need your money pastors need your money so get that into your thick skulls.

i will say it again and again i live in a godless country most of the people don't believe in god but they are the happiest,most comfortable ,healthy and blessed people i have ever seen. they never give money to god but they have all that they need nigerians spend all their money on god yet they are they are amongts the poorest and unhappy people i know.  god does not need money the pastors do.

There has NEVER in the history of mankind been a race, a nation or a civilization of people that have over any extended period prospered, thrived or survived with their hands out waiting for someone else to provide for them we the black people have listened to the lies of the pastors and imams way too much for anything positive to happen to us while the white people are out there using their brians and simple logic to get things done we arre there hoping on god to do everything for us.

So where did hell come from? It didn’t exist in Adam’s, Noah’s, nor Abraham’s time. It is something that was fabricated so that they could capitalize off of your fear.

This is quite true because there was no where in the bible where it was written that people went to hell during the times of abraham,noah,adam and moses. i have not heard of it.

white people don't believe in god yet the are more blessed they live longer,have more disposable income,have less diseases and are happier people black people believe sooo much in god and yet there is nothing to show that god is with them, i personally believe there is a god but he is not what we are made to believe he is by the lying pastors and imams he is what he is and the white people have really discovered him. we black people are yet to do that. all i know is that there is no way god will fail to give or pour out his blessing to the people that worship him in earnest(africans) and pour pour or give it out to those that don't(white people). some thing is definately wrong some where.

OBJ is a mad dog.

You guys should learn to read between the lines. I totally agree completely with Osereka. No normal guy would continue to makes such moves at her without some sort of direct or indirect approval from the poster.

So don't gimme that nonsense. The poster herself is no angel. I wish we could hear the man's side of the story. Some of y'all are forgetting that there are TWO sides to every story and we've only heard from one side.

Shut up there and stop saying nonsense, if you are truly a loving husband nothing will make you go after your wife's sister, even if she moves around naked in the house you will call her to oder if you cant do it your self reporting her to her sister will end it all, but because they guy has his eyes on sleeping with her, he will say all sought of rubbish to cover up for is wrong doings. he has no excuse to sleep with his wife's sister if truly he loves his wife.

MP007, granted, we are in the last time, but how do u explain all these "mush room" chuches, most of the are just like 10 or 15 people, why can't they all put aside their pride and the profit, come together and be more effective?

Nicely said

The greatest church and religion is loving your neighbours and doing what is right to them as you will like them to do it on to you. the ten comandmments are enough for the world to be a lovely and peaceful place, people are not taught about loving and doing justice to their neighbours any more in the churches, they are only decieved by the pastors to love jesus and god and thats all(the love of god and jesus is all you need to do they always tell the members of their congregation). how can u love god that u can't see and fail to love your fellow neighbour? until we start to love our selves and our neighbours, we can all turn all our houses to churches and mosques yet nothing  positive will ever happen to us as a people and as a nation.

Hmmmm this is a hard one, i wish it will be easy for him to forgive her but i will be lying if i say so, its complicated and a very difficult situaition, sometimes people truly repent most times people don't. he should do what he feels is right to him and what he feels will give him justice in this situation

why are we just to cynical, the girl just came to share her problem and seek advice cos they say a problem shared is a problem half solved and instead of listening objectively to her some people are trying to make her the culprit, what nonsense is all this, the man(her sister's husband) needs to be seriously chided and berated to get his acts together and stop molesting her.

This thugs no dey tire?

I read it in a different newspaper outlet which is a bit reliable.here is the a link to the story.

http://www.thetimesofnigeria.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2459&PHPSESSID=e4905c9694691d25b2f48cc09b9dec44.

we all know that OBJ stole a lot from nigeria.

better to give your hard earned money to the needy and the poor than to give it up as tithe to the rich pastors, white people dont give tithe, yet they are more blessed financially than we, i strongly believe that its better to help those who are in need around you than to give the money out in form of tithe to the church(criminal pastors)

I must add that the guy looks dishonest.

he will kiss him goodbye and continue to lie to himself about iraq and all the foreign policy disaster he has authorized and engineered. shame on bush.

Na wah ohh which kind life be dis one? ehhh? na so dem dey live their life for there? oboi dis people dey craze.

Is it only chirstian that will go to heaven? are believers of other fates all going to root in hell?

Sick people

The earlier bush recognizes that there can never be a military solution to the problems in iraq the better for him and his lying cabinate. Any thing that is built on lies will surely crumble the war was built on lies hence they will never succeed.

@ Mamajama
Your papa na army general?

In as much as i seriously dislike the US foreign policy, the US is not totally supposed to be blamed for the problems in iraq, agreed that the war was based on lies and the need for the US to conquer and  increase their stronghold on iraq and its oil, the problem is that the iraqis are the ones killing them selves, if the iraqis declear that no body will die from the noozzle of a gun or from the explosion of a bomb then no body would and iraq will be a safe place again, the iraqis to me carry %80 percent of the blame.All this senseless killings have to stop.Instead of killing each other the can unite and kill all the US soldiers.

Pastors are really decieving nigerians to the extent that sometimes you wonder if all the members of the congregation are under a spell, the last time i went to a church in nigeria,i was totally astonished, the pastor gave a very very strong message initially, at the end he dwelled on people's fears and insecurities and made sure he pushed his points really hard,telling the congregation of how God will take care of them and provide for them when they give qualitative offering unto him(offering time is blessing time you will always hear them say)  instead of telling them(congregation) to go and do legitimate busineses and struggle hard he was busy telling them of how he needed some money when he was in trouble sometime ago and he prayed to god, he said he quoted some bible verses and immediately he went out a not very close friend called him and gave him just the amount he  needed, every body went wild with the shouts of amen and what not, the funny thing is that, that is not the reality of most of the people in the congregation most of them pray for money but they never get any money to the extent that they resorted to going to church to hear calming messages that will soothe their batard financial lives.The church only serves as a solace but foolishly they keep going their and keep enriching these criminals that are very good with words.

The fact still remains that despite all the giving and scarifices people are doing their lives havent changed a bit, most of the folks i know back home are still the same each time i visit, their lives havent changed much despite all the endless offering they have been rendering to the churches they attend.people are still dying in poverty while the very clever pastors are getting richer than ever before, why all the lies ,facade and deciet?

I go to churches here and all you hear is a decent massege,they tell you what they feel is right and they never tell you that poverty is a sin the pastor will never tell you that giving unto the lord is a panacea for all your finalcial problems, they never will tell you that you should bring money before u will get blessings from the lord,infact they don't collect offerings they way we do it in nigeria, you just drop what you have in the offering box at the door which most of them don't do.At the end of it all they people here who mostly don't even believe in God and give much less to their churches live longer lives,are richer,healthier,more comfortable,have more disposable incomes, are more secured than the average nigerian that goes to church every day and enriches the very clever pastor in the name of giving to the lord. my people shine your eyes, why will a god refuse to or give very little give back to the people that are always giving(Nigerians) to him and continue to give abundantly to the people that don't even know him and are always giving less or nothing at all to him(finns)? They people here are far more blessed than the people in nigeria, why will god continue to bless them that don't even believe in him and refuse to bless us as a nation that very much believe in him?

Give and it will be given unto you they are always saying, most nigerians give and nothing is happening to the country as a whole ,the people here don't give and they always reap in tenfolds, as far as poverty exist their will always be the need for gods unless if the poor people will get some form of utopia here on earth.People shine your eyes its better to give to a hungry neighbour or a destitute on the street than to go and give your hard earned money to a criminal called a pastor.