₦airaland Forum

segzyj: If you are convinced and have enough evidence, why don't you go to the nearest police station and lodge complain officially?

Chibuebem: GOD himself was/is behind the origin and the development of Israel for example.

Purist: You're right. I've observed that there is a growing openness towards non-religiousity by many Nigerians where I live and in other parts of Europe as well. I believe that the situation is helped by the fact that mine is a predominantly atheist country where everything also seems to work. Many Nigerians here are unable to understand how such an "ungodly" nation can be so advanced and efficient in virtually everything. The reality on ground does not conform to their beliefs, so they tend to subconsciously adjust their own position over time. Furthermore, coming in contact with atheists all the time completely dispels the whole stereotype they've always held about non-believers being evil, immoral and all that. Where I live, the people are particularly known for their extreme honesty. This creates some sort of cognitive dissonance for the Nigerians here -- how can unbelievers be so honest and so kind? This is the only society I know where if you lose something valuable in a public place, you're more than likely to get it back. I've recently become very open (when asked of course) to other Nigerians about my unbelief, and contrary to my expectations, many just shrug. At worst, they'll simply say "bro, forget o, God dey!"

I have also observed the change in attitude of the Nigerians that arrived here recently towards religion. I recall how many of them would constantly invoke God in every discussion when they first arrived. But after one, two years, it's very interesting to observe that their level of religiousity has declined. In fact, many of them now ask questions that surprise me myself. Of course, the religiosity as a whole is extremely hard to shake off completely, and many of them are still very much theistic. But there's a lot of encouragement still.

musKeeto: yes with faith, you can believe
- a talking snake is responsible for man's suffering
- a man's donkey spoke to him
- a betrothed virgin gave birth
- a man built a ship for all animals in the world
- God killed himself to save you from sin

Chibuebem: very untrue. I repeat, this statement is one of the most false statements I've heard.

vedaxcool: I am willing to give it for free but every body keeps rejecting me

orgasticdance: Read the article. It's infinitely harder if you're a nigerian living in nigeria; case in point at my last job (a popular naija bank) when i was filling my employee form there were only two fields for religion; islam and christianity; fear no make me put atheist. But i eventually opened up to a few colleagues at work. And the world did not end. i opened up to family folks, the world still didnt end, In fact one of my super cool cousins also came out as well after i did. Made me happy that i had a comrade in the family circle. I only have one friend who is openly atheist (my cousin, lol) and would encourage more people to come out. I won't mind a naija atheist group at all, beyond the very useful e-one we have here in nairaland.

manmustwac: Another topic about me. Jeez i neveer knew. I was that popular. Besides am not gay

Alfa Seltzer: soo gay.

bamboke: I don't even know the church myself but she said people with issues go there and they pray into oil for you. I am so skeptical. Though I had dreamt about her coming to tell me about this and also about looking for how to send me out of her son's home and now she has asked me to go to the church.

vedaxcool: I am gay, every body keeps rejecting me including manmustwac, what can I do now

obowunmi: Even Americans don't know how people died. So many unresolved murders.

bellong: Op,

The problem is complicated and institutional.

If you have ever entered police trouble before, you will know that an armed robber is a better friend compared to the police.

Before people can voluntary supply information without the fear of being roped into the case, the police must first gain the confidence of the population. How will you be encouraged to report to police when the previous one you reported landed you in trouble that took divine intervention to get off it.

Have you visited the forensic section of the NPF in Ikoyi before? It is as good as a collection office.

ireneidiva: Cos you are asking why. If you had gone, you would have spoken up about your experience there. Any more questions? *yawns*

vedaxcool: Poor u

Zarian5: You are quick to believe this UNVERIFIABLE hoax because it support your claim right? Yet you are looking for VIDEO EVIDENCE of Prophet Muhammad's revelation which took place 1400 years ago? Meanwhile the “Sheikh” even said the 6 million muslims are from Africa alone! Where are they? Why is the story not reported in any other reliable media outlet? Even if he really had the Al Jazeera interview, how did he arrive at that figure?
MEANWHILE ISLAM IS THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION GLOBALLY.

Neutral non-Muslim Sources confirming Islam to be the fastest growing religion.
I will just mention a few of them.
“Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion. In 1990, 935 million people were Muslims and this figure had escalated to around 1.2 billion by 2000, meaning that around one in five people follow Islam. Although the religion began in Arabia, by 2002 80% of all believers in Islam lived outside the Arab world. In the period 1990-2000, approximately 12.5 million more people converted to Islam than to Christianity” (Guinness World Records 2003, pg 102)
Now compare your 6-million-muslim-hoax to what Guiness World Records stated in the period 1990-2000, approximately 12.5 MILLION MORE PEOPLE CONVERTED TO ISLAM THAN TO CHRISTIANITY!

According to Reader’s digest Almanic year book Islam grew by 235% in 50 years between 1934-1984

According to CNN.
“The second-largest religion in the world after Christianity,Islam is also the fastest-growing religion. In the United States, for example, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques have been built in the past 12 years.
Some scholars see an emerging Muslim renaissance as Islam takes root in many traditionally Christian communities.
Islam has drawn converts from all walks of life,”
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD /9704/14/egypt.islam/

The Islamization of Europe: the moral vacuum of abortion and the population vacuum
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/maguire/101231

Islam spreading in Christian SouthAfrica
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=620805&section=news

Mohammed's religion finds a place in Haiti
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/americas/06/13/haiti.islam.reut/index.html

Rwanda Turns to Islam After Genocide
http://www.timesdaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Date=20021107&Category=API&ArtNo=211070870&Ref=AR

Islam to become 2nd largest faith practised in US
http://www.timesofindia.com/today/12amrc7.htm

Islam 'will be dominant UK religion'
http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Articles.asp?Article=76212&Sn=BNEW

The Fastest Growing Religion In America Is Islam
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-fastest-growing-religion-in-america-is-islam

Survey shows Muslim population is fastest growing religion in Canada
http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/canada/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/2013/05/08/survey-shows-muslim-population-is-fastest-growing-religion-in-canada

Islam: Fastest-Growing Religion in Britain
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3500/islam-growing-religion-britain

LiveLeak.com -ISLAM: The Fastest Growing Religionin the World
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=750_1371003297
etc. .etc it's all over the world! The Global muslim population growth rate (1.5%) is twice that of the entire non-muslims (0.7) according to the report by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life. (http://www.pewforum.org/2011/01/27/the-future-of-the-global-muslim-population/). In less than 10yrs time Islam will overtake Christianity as the largest religion even though Christianity had been well established 600yrs before the birth of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Allah did make this promise when perhaps there were only a few hundred muslims in the Desert of Arabia.

“It is He who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikeen (Polytheists, Pagans, disbelievers in the oneness of Allah) hate (it).” Quran 9:36

Isn't that in itself an indication for the truth of Islam? Had it been your 6-million-muslim-hoax is true then the title of this thread would have been “Why Do So Many Muslims Convert To Christianity? ” Show us the video evidence of the 6 million muslims!

vedaxcool: I tried saving the simpleton from self humiliation but he would not listen.

vedaxcool: Poor u. seek medical help.

F00028: ^^^ you had no such evidence either but it didn't stop you trying to hoodwink with your bogus argument. yet you're trying to hold me to an impossible standard: you want 1400 year old video recording...SMH


....but come to think of it, maybe he meant 6 million pagan. that I can believe.

vedaxcool: I noticed mmc name has been wiped off the religion section moderators, mmc wetin happen , did u resign, any way I wish u the best in your future endeavour. Happy holidays.

F00028: this is ridiculous!
then why were you making an argument with it?!?
did you think people will just take your word for it?

ireneidiva: Because, people like you who have suspicions about a certain persons death; don't go to the police to make a report but come to nairaland to bore us.

Pastor Olu T: That's what u can't understand, we don't pray to make things better but rather for that which He has already done to manifest 'cos its being hindered many atimes by the evil one..

debrief08: Because we are mentally lazy.
We prefer our superstitions to real actual facts.
We prefer to believe that a "wombless" Pastors wife will mysteriously give birth to a 10pound baby without asking questions like if there was a womb transplant, where is the Doctors report, what was actually medically done.
We prefer to jump from one prayer house to the other rather than focus our energy and harness the scientific breakthroughs God helped Doctors to discover.
We prefer to believe a Pastor who under 3 months learns the art of sweet mouth than a Doctor with 10 years of training, and 20 years of professional practice.
We prefer to lazily "leave it to God" than to equip our labs and take the years and study foresic sciences.
We prefer to hide things than say it out so others can learn and apply your mistakes and experiences to their own decisions.
We also prefer to carry rumours of money rituals than simple basic scientific tests
Simple answer: we are lazy, pretentious, religious hypocrites. That's all

onyfrank: In the bible, Isrealites were taken as God's chosen tribe, and God is for them and answers their prayers.
But all these other nations, kingdoms and tribes, that worshipped idols, who was answering their prayers? They flourish in agriculture, and technology wise, dat sometimes Isrealites went to them during famine, and their land flows with milk and honey.

Pastor Olu T: The first thing u need to know boss is that, the fact that one is prospering does mean that it is God behind it is a very wrong assumption. There are laws (physical n spiritual) if when abide by would yield results, even God Himself don't bypass these laws (mostly spiritual ones anyways) many atimes.
Its like God is not that active in this present world which is true 'cos everything has been set in place we are just meant to follow suit, the choice is ours. But He has reserved a day to judge all, for there will always be consequences for our choices.

mahdino: The Quran is a standing evidence, that it is from the lord of the universe but if u say it is not then produce a book like it, not even a book, produce a chapter like it, bros, not even a chapter produce a verse like it? U can never.
Pls help yourselves try to brink out a single contradiction? If u can't u shuold know its from your lord but u reject, doom await u.
From your bible read Isaiah 12

F00028:
oh really now?

and were you there when his group was actually conducting this study and research or where you indoctrinated since childhood to accept anything anti-Islam?

"Provide evidence...by evidence i mean video evidence. . ."

do you have video evidence of these 6 million Muslims converting? if you do please bring it or else stop talking, period.

F00028: you're right there. if God Almighty states it in the Qur'an, its all the proof I need.

but that's not all. further proof that Jesus was not crucified is that: THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT HE WAS CRUCIFIED.

try this: there is a challenge to anyone who can take all accounts of the resurrection in the four gospels, Acts, and 1 Corinthians 15, and write a single narrative in which he includes every event and detail mentioned in the separate accounts and do so without omitting anything or injecting inconsistency, contradiction, or purely speculative materials into the narrative.

I dont have time to watch your video...but
if your man above stated his evidence for his fantastic claims please point me to it.