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cyrexx: I'm not sure he's doing any thinking recently.

Granted, I believe he is afraid for his life, is Tunji the person to appoint as mood here?. . .Seun is crazy. .

tbaba1234: Maybe, Mac is just a temporary measure until a new mod is selected. As long as he is fair, i do not see a problem.

Nobody wants him here. . He should just get out. . .

lanrexlan: Surah Al-Anam 6:158-Do they then wait for anything other than the angels should come to them or that your Lord(Allah) should come or that some of the signs of your Lord(Allah) should come? The day that some of the signs of your Lord(Allah) do come,no good will it to a person to believe then if he had not believed before nor earn good through his faith.Say:Wait you! We too are waiting.
''
But Allah gives respite to the disbelievers.
Surah Al-Anam 6:8- And they say:Why has not an angel been sent down to him? Had We sent down an angel,the matter would have been judged at once and no respite would be granted to them.
When Allah wants to destroy the Army of the elephants,He used birds as his soldiers[Surah Al-Fil 105:3],very very easy to destroy those that rejects the truth.The People of thamud,Ad were destroyed without human interventions.So,Allah is giving muslims the chance to strive in His ways and earn reward.Allah says in Surah Muhammad 47:38 that if we failed to the job[Dawah],Allah will raise other people like us and they will not be like us.

Tell allah to come and kill the infidels that are insulting him and his prophet already, and save the muslism from doing that themelves. . . .Stop quoting mythology from story books, tell allah to come and kill off all the infidels on nairaland that are insulting him and hos propehts so that foolish blood sucking muslism will not have to do it on his behalf. . .Nonsense!!!

free2ryhme: wetin dis one dey talk sef

I tire. . .

Tunji should get the hell out of here, nobody wants him here ever. . .He should just get out. . .If he has any shame he will not even agree to be a mod of a place where NOBODY wants him. . .Nonsense!!. . .And for Seun, its clear he is obviously crazy. . .

frosbel: 3. Despite all the insults on our saviour, why don't you see Christians running amok like little children, rioting and behaving like maniacs ?

Because deep down they know that their god is non existent, imagine people fighting and killing others because some almighy god and his prophet were insulted. . .Nonsense. . .

tbaba1234: There was no life threat, mr man.

With the kinds of obnoxious things, some people regurgitate on this forum.. It is actually a miracle that only Ayatullah reacted angrily. Visit muslim threads that make front page sometimes.

I am a very gentle person but if you insult my mum in my presence, you would probably end up with a fist in your face (unless you are 7ft, 500lbs). Anger is a natural reaction to certain things but of course there are limits which must be observed.

You can insult me personally but you cross the line when you insult those i love.

That is because your mum might be helpless and will need someone to defend her. . .I thought you guys claim to worship an all mighty deity that can do all things and is all powerful. . .if some one insults his prophet why don't you allow him to fight for his prohet himself, since you always claim he is alive and is the creator of the universe..Why should muslims always be fighting for an almighty deity. . .Isn't it a joke on the deity's behalf that people are fighing for him, why can he just kill of all those that insult his messenger, i thought he can do all things. Why must humans do EVERYTHING for him including killing his enemeies and those that insult him and his prophet . .Nonsense!!!

Artful Dodger: appointing Mac as mod of this section is seun's way of saying 'to hell with you lots'. Now, the question is 'what are you all going to do about it'?

I guess we all leave. . .

F00028: listen, all these lamentations from you on how you don't trust our sources is not helpful. if you have EVIDENCE to the contrary just bring it and let's get on with it.

skepticism on its own disproves nothing.

You have not shown that Mohammed did anything, you just made a claim and that's all. . .It proves nothing. . .

“Sulalah” in Arabic means gentle extraction from fluid. Its meaning in the context used in Qur’an is clear from the following:
“Then He made his progeny gently extracted
“Sulalah Min Ma’a” from lowly fluid”. (Surah As-Sajdah, Ayah

The fluid refers to both male and female
germinal fluids containing gametes and it is now a known scientific fact that both ovum and sperm are gently extracted from their
environments.

The ovum is extracted in a long stream of
follicular fluid. Similarly one sperm out of
millions is drawn out from the seminal fluid.

Further, it is now common knowledge to
embryologists that usually only one sperm and one ovum are involved in the normal process of fertilisation.

This fact was stated by Prophet Mohammad in the Hadith below:
“Not from all the fluid is the offspring created”.
(Sahih Muslim, Kitab Al-Nekah, Bab Al-Azl) [quote]

The part in the Koran muslims quote says nothing about the ovem and that is the point. . .

the Quran doesnt actually say "clot of blood"

"When the Qur’an says: “He created man of `Alaqah” , it was interpreted by Muslim scholars to imply “a clot of blood”. This was not because the word meant “a clot of blood” as we have already discussed, but because the Muslim scholars felt that in this verse it implied “a clot of blood”.

If, due to the widening of human knowledge, today we are in a position to know that a child is never “a clot of blood”, all that has happened is that we can now safely say that the interpretation of the Muslim scholars was not accurate.

If the Qur’an was not available in its original language, the Muslims would have had no option but to submit that the Qur’an does have a “scientific error” in it. The case of the Qur’an, however, is very different from other so-called “revealed” books, as it is still in its’ original language.

You are clearly a dishonest person, what does Alaqah mean of not cloth of blood?. . .Are you kidding me?. . .Muslims have been interpreting it as a cloth of blood which is actually what it MEANS suddenly after science has shown that it is wrong , then the excuse is that muslim scholars are wrong in their interpretation, eh?. . .is this a joke or what?. . .

"The word ‘Alaqah can also be translated as
‘leech like structure’. The leech is an elongated pear shaped creature which thrives on blood sucking. At this stage of development the embryo from top view does bear a resemblance to a leech.

This resemblance is even more marked if the 24 day old embryo is seen from the side. It is also interesting to note that the embryo is now dependent on the maternal blood for its nutrition and behaves very much like a leech! "

The embryo does not resemble a leech in any way, when looked at completely. . .It does NOT resemble a leech, simple. . .

--Moore, KL. ‘A scientists interpretation of references to embryology in the Qur’an.’ Journal of the Islamic Medical Association of US and Canada, 1986, 18:15,

--Moore, KL. and Azzindani, AMA.: “The Developing Human, Clinically Orientated Embryology, With Islamic Additions”. 3rd Ed., Dar Al-Qiblah and WB Saunders

What is this, i said present scientific papers and you are giving me links to islamic apologist propaganda? Your link says "A scientists interpretation of references to embryology in the Qur’an" and the other one talks about Islamic additions, provide scientific sources that support what is written in the Koran not muslim apologist propaganda. . At no point does the embryo develop bones that is later covered with flesh around it, bones and cartilages develop later the embryo is already flesh before bones and cartilage later develop. . .The Koran is WRONG, PRODUCE ONE SINGLE SCIETIFIC WRITING THAT SUPPORTS THE KORAN.

“Blessed is He Who made Constellations in
the skies, And placed therein a Lamp And a Moon giving light.” [Al-Qur’aan 25:61]

"The Arabic word for the sun in the Qur’aan,
is shams. It is referred to as siraaj, which means a ‘torch’ or as wahhaaj which means ‘a blazing lamp’ or as diya which means ‘shining glory’. All three descriptions are appropriate to the sun, since it generates intense heat and
light by its internal combustion.

The Arabic word for the moon is qamar and
it is described in the Qur’aan as muneer, which is a body that gives nur i.e. light. Again, the Qur’aanic description matches perfectly with the true nature of the moon, which does
not give off light itself and is an inert body that reflects the light of the sun.

Not once in the Qur’aan, is the moon mentioned as siraaj, wahhaaj or diya or the sun as nur or muneer. "

here's another thing:

I always knew you were going to come up with this nonsense, the passage does not say that the moon reflects light from the sun at all. . .No where does it say that, it only talks about a lamp and a moon giving light. . .Firstly what lamp is it talking about?. . .Is the sun a lamp?. . . . . .Secondly, how do you go from a moon giving light to mean the moon reflects light from the sun. . .Muslim apologist should stop trying too hard. . .This is ridiculous. . .Its really a shame. . .The writers of the koran do NOT know anything about the sun or internal combustion, so i wonder why the apologist whose work you posted is even talking about combustion. . .This is a joke as expected. .

FrostyZonn: Appointing a Muslim mod, and an intolerant one at that, in this section that is meant for the Christians and other denominations or lack of thereof, is a very bad move from the Admin, and one that might end up biting him in the àrse.

As a Christian I find it very offensive to my religion that a Muslim mod very well known and disliked by practically all non-Muslim Nairalanders because of his notorious intolerance, should be given the right to lord over everyone and continue his tyranny.

It's like this guy has the Admin in his pocket. I could be wrong though.

The Tunji has no shame, he accepts to be a mod of a place where he irritates every body and where NOBODY likes him. . .If he has any dignity he will not accept to be a mod where no one likes him. . .

FrostyZonn: Watch it! The tyrant is now the lord of host, and might hide your post and ban you, all at once.

He should do it nonsense!!

Why the hell do muslims go about killing and harming people because they insult their prophet?. . .If allah is alive and real why don't they just pray to allah to kill the person who insulted his prohet?. . .Why must they go about killing and harming others because some prophet was insluted?. . .Why don't they allow allah to do his job, shebi allah is real na?. . .Nonsense!!!!

Even the Tunji himself has no shame, its obvious that no body wants him here , yet he still accepts to be a mod of a section NOBODY wants him. . .Nonsense!!

Pastor Kun: That's the height of stupidity on the part of seun. How can he use a clearly biased and incompetent mor0n to moderate this section even if it is on a temporary basis. It's clearly time to start bidding this forum farewell.

How can someone like tunji be appointed as a mod here?. . .What kind of stupidity is this?

Why has maclatunji been apointed as a new Mod here?. . . . . .Seun what is this? . . .

F00028: you wish.
it's a historical fact...BUT if you can prove he could, when/where he studied, who his teachers were then you may have something.

Historical fact how?. . .Hope you know that every thing that we know about Mohammed came from his alleged followers with their very biased views. . .They were trying to promote him and establish a new religion so why should anything they wrote be trusted, no outside source any where corroborates anything they wrote down. . .The tradition says Mohammed wrote received revelations. . .That is the tradition, the reality is different. . .

give me an example of a COPIED story.

All Most of the prophets also appear in the bible but where changed because they wanted to create a new religion out of the existing religions of the Jews and Christians. . .

Wrong again.

the Qur'an was written down during his lifetime. every word. not only that it was committed to memory in its entirety by many. it was only compiled as a single
volume after his death

Just a claim, the koran as we know it did not exist during the time of the prophet. . .It came after him. . .Tradition says it was written on leaves, bones etc. ..But the one we have now came after him. . .Some other people wrote it down. ..

wise man once said: nothing leads us to blunder more than illogical comparisons.

Not illogical at all. . .Same traditions keep being repeated as facts when they are not. . .

that's your opinion.

the Qur'an didn't get it wrong. you could read this:
http://www.islamicwritings.org/quran/medical-miracles/does-the-quran-plagiarise-ancient-greek-embryology/

www.hamzatzortzis.com/research/embryology-in-the-quran/

I said the Koran is wrong, I gave you three scientific sources on embryology that says it is false and you are here providing links from the website of Hamza Tzortzis who has alread been debunked many many times on the issue by scientist. . .The koran neglects the role of the ovum, secondly at no point is the embryo a cloth of blood as the koran says, and at no point does the embryo resemble a leech, the embryo with it yolk sac does not in any way resemble a leech. And finally at no point does the embryo develop bones that is later covered with flesh around it, bones and cartilages develop later when the embryo is already flesh. The Koran is simply WRONG. . .Provide a single scientific paper that supports you not some junk apologist material from an already debunked apologist. . .Hamza is not even a scientist. . .Below are videos where Hamza Tzortzis had to retract his statements when challenged. . .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYgSvBwiGJE

Another video where he was completely debunked by a scientist. . .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snin0fN-cwY

If you want to show that the koran is correct then present scientific journals not the writings of muslims apologist that don't even know what they are saying. . .

here's another thing: the same 7th century unlettered, non space explorer Prophet (pbuh) knew that while the sun actually produced light, the moon's light was merely reflective.

is that extraordinary?

Present the verse from the Koran lets have a look at it. . .I notice that muslim apologist just take vague verses from the koran and give it meanings of their own through the way the interpret it. .I have told you that it only remains a muslim claim that Mohammed was an illiterate, I have told you about Greek philosophers who were non space explorers that made very incredible prediction that were just discovered with our modern and sophisticated equipment. . . .I asked you if their own discoveries were also revelations from their greek gods. . .

alexleo: Yeah manmustwac really tried. Am not in support of changing him. Couldn't seun have suspended him for about a week or so and bring him back?

I don't know why Seun refused to listen to people calls to reinstate him. . .I hope the person he appoints will be fair and neutral like him. . .

He might turn out to be a good mod, i never expected manmustwac to be neutral and fair when he was made a mod, but he ended up surprising us all. . .

Vedaxcool why is every body on the thread calling you gay?. . .Is it because its true?. . .

Alfa Seltzer: vedaxcool why are you gay? Is it because men don't wear burqa?

toba: let him join boko haram and blow himself up in Borno state

. . .Its much better than being a worthless gay and looking for love on nairaland. . .

toba: lol. thats true. The guy keeps fantasizing after me

He fantasizes about you as well?. . .This rejected gay stalker really needs help. . .

^^
You can't deny the obvious man. . .Every body here seems to be in agreement, others are hitting the like button on comments made about you and your sexual orientation, we all seem to be in agreement about your sexual orientation, no body has hit the like button on any of your comments of denial or has come to agree with you on the fact that you are gay, its obvious man, knock it off and just accept the fact, you are only fooling yourself. . .You are a worthless good for nothing gay that nobody wants, you think kissing manmustwac on nairaland will make him want you, eh? You are completely deluded. . .Stop fighting it, I know some gay man down the street that might accept you if i plead on your behalf, but you have to behave first. . .

F00028: the Prophet (pbuh) wasn't a philosopher, astronomer or scientist of any kind. the man could not even read or write.

here's another: the same 7th century unlettered Arab (pbuh) brings forth profound revelations on embryo development again confirmed by 20th century scientists.

and keep in mind that not only were his revelations a radical departure from prevailing knowledge at the time ( ancient Indians, Hippocrates, Aristotle, Galen, and Jewish scriptures) they were also accurate.

is that extraordinary?

The claim that prophet Mohammed was an illiterate is ONLY a muslim claim to dispel the fact that most of the stories were copied from the Jews and christians. . .It is only a muslim claim. . .The Koran as we know it was not even put together by Mohammed, it came after he died, so i really do not know what you are talking about, muslims claim he recited it, but he did NOT write the koran that we have today it came after he died. . .This is no different the christian tradition that claims the disciples of Jesus wrote the gospels, it remains a muslim tradition and that's all. . .

What was written in the koran is not a radical departure from Galen, it is different from it but not a radical departure and even the koran got it wrong as well. . .

Here is what is written in the koran. . .

1.Translation by Maulana Muhammad Ali : Then We make the life-germ a clot, then We make the clot a lump of flesh, then We make (in) the lump of flesh bones, then We clothe the bones with flesh, then We cause it to grow into another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of creators.

2.Translation by progressive muslims organization : Then We created the seed into an embryo, then We created the embryo into a fetus, then We created the fetus into bone, then We covered the bone with flesh, then We brought forth a new creation. So glory be to God, the best of creators.

3.Translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali : Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!

In this ayha it's writes that bones appear before flesh but this is false. Go through the scientific links below and see the error of the koran. . . So the koran is wrong simple. . .

Sources :
1.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetus
2.http://www.dcdoctor.com/pages/rightpages_wellnesscenter/pregnancy/fetaldevelopmenmt.htm
3.http://www.babycenter.com/fetal-development-week-by-week

F00028: here is something: a 7th century Arab declares that the universe is expanding. keep in mind that this was something scientists only "discovered" 1,300 years later in the in the 20th century after the invention of the hubble.
is that extraordinary?

Greek philosophers that lived like a thousand years before the koran was written have made very incredible predictions about the cosmos. ..Example Democritus stated that the stars contain other worlds and now we just found out that the stars actually have planets revolving round them. . .Does that means his statement was inspired by the geek god Zeus?. . .

Is this all you have?. . .Keep joking. . .

Seun: After reading manmustwac's so-called explanation,
I am now 100% sure that I made the right decision.

He's not a good fit for my e-team, at the very least, &
it seems that he's deliberately trying to start a civil war.

What is this nonsense Seun?. . . .

Chibuebem: i'm sorry Sir, but once you deny the bible, i have nothing else to say. You have silenced me. The word is true. Thats what I believe.

The fact that you believe the word does not make it true. . .Israel was never a great nation any where. . .All the conquest you read about in the bible are all mythical stories that never happened. . .We have magnificent building standing in Egypt, Greece, Rome etc that date thousands of years ago. . .Nothing great standing in ancient Israel to show that it was a mighty nation. . .

^^

LOL!. . .I laugh tire I wan die with laughter. . .OP is a rejected good for nothing gay pig. . . .

Seun reinstate manmuswac immediately. . .He has explained what he meant by his statements stop acting like a tyrant. . .If you want him to beg you then he will not. . .

vedaxcool: This is what we have to put up with when one whose family thinks of him as bastard and hence disinherit him as a result, is left to roam the internet un- supervised hence you might think I hold the keys to your inheritance but I don't .

Ouch! That must have hurt. . .So Gay!. . .

Zarian5: It doesnt matter what his religion is. Whoever made that claim have to back it up with sufficient evidence. You seem to accepts any anti-islam rubbish because some faceless ‘muslim’ scholar(s) say(s). You should demand for evidence. Now i just don't see how the US prof's ‘research’ could be reconciled with this CNN report among others..
According to CNN.
“The second-largest religion in the world after Christianity,Islam is also the fastest-growing religion. In the United States, for example, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques have been built in the past 12 years.
Some scholars see an emerging Muslim renaissance as Islam takes root in many traditionally Christian communities.
Islam has drawn converts from all walksof life,”
http://www.cnn.com /WORLD/9704/14/egypt.islam/

You keep hitting head head against the wall, you said a report from cnn claims this or that, I gave you a report from aljezeera that made a claim as well. . .You dis miss it because you do not like it and the thing is the people that made but research are muslims. . . Prof IIyas Ba Yunus is a famous islamic scholar in the united states, he is not some obscured fogure among American muslims, his study shows that 75% of muslims converts leave islam after a few years. . .Islam is growing mostly because of immigration and high birth rates among muslims in the west. . .

infogenius: God help us in naija.A Similar situation happened in my neighborhood about 3 months ago,this time,some days after a heavy fight that the man locked people out from intervening in their fight, the woman was taken to the hospital on the pretext that she took ill and two days after she was taken to the hospital she died. No questions asked.The man simply moved away from the neighborhood after the burial.

There is one shocking one that happened about four years ago.This young boy about 12yrs as usual was playing around his house at 10am and by 11:30 the sister called people that the boy had hung himself.I was in a poultry farm within their compound.When we heard her screams, I was reluctant to go out and see it as I do not enjoy looking at the dead.But since the farmer came out, I had no choice than to go and see what happened and possible help;

What I saw shocked.The boy's neck was in a belt that was not holding his neck tight and the funny thing was that she was standing on his legs.

Holy cow I suspected something.But people came and as usual started crying.One woman also made a comment on my observation.After an hour the police came took pictures and the boy was taken in to be laid.
Na so that young boy go.No question asked.Murderer had a sweet day.

May God help us.

Pathetic. . .