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Dtruthspeaker:
Men, you guys do not get good education. The standard has terribly dropped. That explains why you guys become atheist.

My response is based on the idioms "fair weather friends"; "A friend for food" and other friend idioms!.

You mean Abraham, Moses and all the Apostles of Jesus were fair weather friends?

It was by miracle ls that God convicted these men so why do you attack others who ask for the same?

Is it because truly miracles are no longer happening?

Onyi22:
I see her getting married soon
@Falseprophet what have you seen?

I first experienced this at Winners during my NYSC.
Some excos got us so convinced they were getting married soon with wedding gowns and date.

It wasn't only shocking to find out they weren't actually engaged talkless of married. It was even more disappointing that for years after they were still single. Dont know if they're finally married now though.

Moral of the story is, don't let religion make a fool of you.

Davash222:
It's easier to find Chilled bottled water in Hell fire than to find a faithful Nigerian girl. Cheating is in their gene. Only God will save them.

It's both ways.
Both men and women are on this table.

Bornsinner7:
Why is this guy always out against Christianity??

Perhaps he knows he can always go Scot-free.. why not one day speak against Islam in the name of being woke

The truth is that Freeze is actually helping Christianity.
Other religions have those monitoring their religions.
But in Christianity almost every Pastor/GO believes they're only answerable to God. Which us wrong.
Even Peter and Paul were confronted by fellow believers whenever they went against the bible.

If you actually read the bible, Freeze is actually only trying to conform the bastardized Christanity most popular churches practise today to what the bible actually teaches.

elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

Hebrews 1:5 For to which of the angels did YHVH ever say, “You are my Son; today I have become your Father”? Or again, “I will be his Father, and he will be my Son”?

To the best of my knowledge; none. Anyone who has any scriptural knowledge in that regard should enlighten me.

Hebrews 1: 4 So he became as much superior to the angels(messengers) as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.

Yahushua the Messiah inherited the Father's name. Michael, the messenger of Yahushua the Messiah, has his own name.

Hebrews 1:6 And again, when YHVH brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all YHVH’s angels worship him.” 7 In speaking of the angels he says, “He makes his angels spirits, and his servants flames of fire.”

The messengers (angels) worshipped Yahushua the Messiah.

Hebrews 1: 8 But about the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore YHVH, your YHVH, has set you above your companions
 by anointing you with the oil of joy.”

The Father exalted the Son in himself. The Father exalted himself in the Son.
The Father called his Son, his Word, God.
The Father praised himself in his Son, his Word. The Father praised the Son, his Word, in himself.

The Word, the begotten Son, of YHVH Almighty - God Almighty - cannot be any other being but God Almighty.


What is this message saying? Yahushua the Messiah never existed as Michael, the archangel.

Hebrews 1: 13 To which of the angels did YHVH ever say, “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet”? 14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?


El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

Have you read the book of Job?
Angels were referred to as Sons of God.

1 Job 1:6
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

Also in Genesis 6:1-2
When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. 

Now if you take the bible as the word of God then clearly God referred to angels as sons of God.

chatinent:
Na their fans dey kill themselves. People wey no dey quarel, fans dey quarel for them.

And what's the meaning of the numerous rings they all wear, smoking they all do, and drinking 24/7! Is it also a qualification to be a celebrity artiste?

Explain why they have not collaborated together.

englishmart:
But you can't sponsor brilliant students in your community. Immorality is overrated.

Mention one educative show you know on your TV?
It's quite unfortunate we dont have educative shows.
We should have shows that challenge the youth to be productive in Science and Technology, Research, Agriculture, Art etc.
And the youths should actually support this shows with viewership and votes too.

That's what attracts sponsorship.

JBoss25:
Leave this country if you have funds, this country is irreparable

Damaged product is what Nigeria has become

corbanstevee:
How about simple instruction that'll benefit a user of such device and probably listening to or watching something on the phone like social media pages etc...

You do the reasoning....

Plugging earphones during church service just like in lecture rooms or official meetings is actually a distraction but condemning the use of earphones generally is where by bone of contention is.

TV and IPAD come to mind.
The same pastor that declared TV to be devils box has today mounted TVs in all his church branches as a medium of his live broadcast.
Just like most churches frowned against IPADs and TABs but today it has actually replaced the bible book.

yuping:
First is not proper to use head phone while preaching is going on, why go to church when you are not ready to listen to the Word of God and for Christ sake it Just one day in a week.
But seriously Technology have nothing to do with the devil � if so why are you using Microphone to preach let us always take away sentiment when preaching or exaggerating when passing message.
All DJ and producers will be disappointed with this.

According to those who have heard God, it is actually an internal hearing and not an external hearing.
So whether you plug ear phones or not, it has nothing to do with hearing from God.
When God spoke to John acknowledging Jesus as his Son during his baptism, only John supposedly heard him.
When God spoke to Jesus even in the presence of his disciples, only Jesus heard it.
When Jesus spoke to Paul on his way to Damascus, only he heard his voice.

However, using earphones during sermon is wrong as it defeats the purpose of being in the church in the first place.

The more important question is how come the others that dont plug in their earphones are not more prosperous than those who plug their ears?

Phraences:
Nigerians worship wealth. If you are now a rich pastor to them it means automatically God’s grace resides with you. They know in their heart that he is a womanizer and adulterer but they feel the power of God resides in him and Nigerians love ‘miracle’ performaimg pastor so they will always support him.

Nothing else to add to what you said.
Unfortunately God is not in the business of exposing false prophets, false teachers and false pastors until supposedly judgment day.

So we'll never know who is real or fake. But by the fruits we can discern to an extent.

Antoeni:
All suleman likes woman, but this one own too much,
He is a chronic womanizer
Extraordinary

Especially when you know that Suleiman is the Arabic for Solomon. Lol
Judging by his lust after the luxuries of life, it's obvious that he is still subject to the lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes and pride of life.

But who am I to judge? With his level of wealth, women will definitely be throwing themselves at him. Only God's extraordinary grace can save him.

triplechoice:
Keep your preaching and know the truth. Read below what the King has agreed to.

https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2013/09/10/born-again-king-olu-of-warri-bows-to-his-people/?amp=1

The king will fulfill his coronation rites but as a Christian he is not bound nor condemned by them.

How do you think God will establish kings on the earth? By Christians avoiding coronation rites?
Do you even know what it means to be a Christian?

1 Corinthians 10:23
All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things edify.

Meaning you cant condemn a king for fulfilling coronation rites as long as he know who he is in Christ.
Even several people condemned Jesus for even mixing with sinners and prostitutes. So be careful when God is working you might be working against him.

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you think that Adam and Eve Committed Only One Offence? Here look at The Laws, Eve, the World Record Holder of the First Man to Break The Law, looks like.

This was just the ones that I and Truespeak found before I got exhausted from further query

Count 1
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Eat the Fruit of knowledge of good and evil, thereby Committing An Offence Contrary To Commandment No.1 of The Laws of God, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High!

Count 2
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Counseled and Procured thy husband Mr Adam to Eat the Fruit of knowledge of good and evil, thereby Causing him to Commit An Offence Contrary To Commandment No.1 of The Laws of God, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High!

Count 3
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Give to thy husband, Mr Adam, the Fruit of knowledge of good and evil, to eat of it, thereby Causing him to Commit An Offence Contrary To Commandment No. 1 of The Laws of God, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High

Count 4
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Knowingly Breach the Trust of The Lord by Knowingly Eating the Fruit of knowledge of good and evil, in Breach and vBreak of the Trust God Placed in you, thereby Giving Personal Offence to The Lord God, Contrary To The Laws of Trusts, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High! (TRUST BREAKER)

Count 5
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Knowingly Breached the Agreement between yourself and The Lord God To Refrain from Eating the Fruit of knowledge of good and evil,Which You did Knowingly Eat thereof, thereby breaching and Breaking the Agreement which you Hold with The Lord God thereby Giving Personal Offence to The Lord God, Contrary To The Laws of Contract, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High! (COVENANT BREAKER)

Count 6
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Counsel and Procure thy husband, Mr Adam to Breach the Trust of The Lord God in eating the Fruit of knowledge of good and evil, to thereby Causing him to Commit An Offence of Breaching the Trust of The Lord God and Causing him to Give Personal Offence to The Lord God, Contrary To The Laws of Trusts, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High! (OFFENCE OF CAUSING ANOTHER TO SIN)

Count 7
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Counsel and Procure thy husband, Mr Adam to Breach the Agreement which he had between himself and The Lord God To Refrain from Eating the Fruit of knowledge of good and evil, thereby Causing him to Commit An Offence of Breaching the Agreement between himself and The Lord God and Causing him to Give Personal Offence to The Lord God, Contrary To The Laws of Contracts, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High! (OFFENCE OF CAUSING ANOTHER TO SIN)

Count 8 (I Hear Thy Thoughts)
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Say in thy heart that the Lord was Evil, in Not Permitting you to eat the Fruit of knowledge of good and evil, thereby Giving Personal Offence to The Lord God, Contrary To The Laws of Love Respect and Insubordination, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High! (OFFENCE OF INSULTING THE LORD- BLASPHEMY)

Count 9
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Say in thy heart "Why shouldest The Lord allow us to be gods like him", in Not Permitting you to eat the Fruit of knowledge of good and evil, thereby Giving Personal Offence to The Lord God, Contrary To The Laws of High Respect and Insubordination, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High! (OFFENCE OF INSULTING THE LORD- BLASPHEMY)


Count 10
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Say in thy heart "Why shouldest The Lord allow us to be gods like him, doth He Fear we shall Prevail Over Him?", in Not Permitting you to eat the Fruit of knowledge of good and evil, thereby Giving Personal Offence to The Lord God, Contrary To The Laws of TREASON, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High! (OFFENCE OF INSULTING THE LORD- BLASPHEMY)

Count 11
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Say in thy heart "Why shouldest The Lord allow us to be gods like him, doth He Fear we shall Prevail Over Him?", in Not Permitting you to eat the Fruit of knowledge of good and evil, thereby Giving Personal Offence to The Lord God, Contrary To The Laws of TREASON, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High! (OFFENCE OF CONTEMPTING THE LORD- BLASPHEMY)

Count 12
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Say in thy heart "Why shouldest The Lord allow us to be gods like him, doth He Fear we shall Prevail Over Him?", in Not Permitting you to eat the Fruit of knowledge of good and evil, thereby Giving Personal Offence to The Lord God, Contrary To The Laws of TREASON, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High! (OFFENCE OF CHALLENGING THE LORD- BLASPHEMY)

Count 13
That You Mrs Eve-Adam, on the ... Day at .... 00hrs, Did Steal Property Belonging to The Lord in eating the Fruit of knowledge of good and evil, thereby Committing The Offence of Stealing to Contrary To The Laws of Stealing, Within The Jurisdiction of The Most High!

And we have other charges of Trespass, Offence of Listening to the Enemy, Offence of Listening to the Counsel of a Low Estate over the Counsel of The Most High Lord etc

One scripture comes to mind. Only Satan thinks ike this.
Imagine the charges you leveled against Eve alone for from only Genesis 2? How many charges do you think Satan has leveled against you in your lifetime?

Revelations 12:10-11
Then I heard a loud voice in heaven. It said,

“Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God have come.
The authority of his Christ has come.

Satan, who brings charges against our brothers and sisters, has been thrown down.
He brings charges against them before our God day and night.

They overcame him because the Lamb gave his life’s blood for them.
They overcame him by giving witness about Jesus to others.
They were willing to risk their lives, even if it led to death.

triplechoice:
You're being fooled. That's all

Are you a Christian?
Do you share the burden of the body of Christ?
Then pray for him.

No one ever really knows how God works.
And more often times we misjudge when we only judge by sight.

Unless the Holyspirit revealed to you that he's a scam, then you can be certain. Otherwise, pray for him and trust God to be in control.

sagenaija:
Archangel Michael Is Not Jesus Christ
I intend to show in this thread that the Jehovah Witnesses (JW) claim that Archangel Michael is Jesus is not supported by Scripture. In doing so I will look at some of the passages they use in their claim and bring out their errors in the interpretation of those passages. I will also present scriptural passages which show the SUPERIORITY of Jesus Christ over ALL angels, no matter their ranking.

For those who want to give honest comments I ask that discussions stay within the topic of the thread and not veer off to other unrelated issues.

Daniel 10:13 & 21, Daniel 12:1 and Jude 9
JW adherents like to point to the above two as justification for their claim.

In the first place, none of those portions make explicit reference to Jesus. He has to be read into the texts which is what JW do.

In addition, Michael is not called the chief prince. He is referred to as ONE OF the chief princes. In other words, Michael is ONE of a group of chief princes. If Jesus is Archangel Michael and "one of the chief princes", does that not mean that there are other angels with the same ranking as Jesus? That would be the rational conclusion since he is just ONE OF the chief princes. This would then puncture HOLES in the JW claim that Michael ranks above all other angels.

Ofcourse nothing in Jude links Archangel Michael's mention there with Jesus. And Jesus is CLEARLY the starting point of the book, the emphasis of the book and the closing. Did Jude lack the understanding of the JW and failed to point him out directly as the Archangel Michael he referenced in his writing? I don't think so. Jude knew that they were two different individuals.

A Case of Mistaken Identity
Because the JW start from using their belief system to interpret Scripture rather than let the scriptures guide their understanding they end muddling things up and have to go into a lot of weird semantic gymnastics of statements of scriptures to attempt to prove their point.

The Archangel Michael is simply what the Bible says that he is - an angel of the highest rank.

On the other hand, Jesus is clearly shown as being superior to any angel, no matter the rank.

Jesus's Superiority Over Angels
Hebrews 1 starts off with the statement that Jesus is "MUCH SUPERIOR to angels"
"So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs."
Hebrews 1:4 NIV
We see here that Jesus is superior, in quality and position, to the angels.

CLEARLY the book of Hebrews emphasizes the superiority of Jesus over ALL angels. When we are told in Hebrews 1:5 "For to which of the angels did God ever say, “You are my Son; today I have become your Father”? Or again, “I will be his Father, and he will be my Son”?
that rhetoric question makes us come to only one conclusion: God never said that to ANY angel.

Archangel Michael is what he is said to be - an angel, whilst Jesus' position is said to be superior to that of any angel.

Jesus's Demonstration of Authority Over Satan versus Michael's
Jesus in his humanity - Jesus as a man - showed authority over Satan which Michael as an archangel could not do when contending with Satan over the body of Moses in Jude 9.

Jesus Accepted Worship
Jesus received worship from both men and angels. No man or angel is to be worshipped. No true angel (as opposed to demons) accepts worship - Rev. 19:10; Rev. 22:8&9.

To be continued........

Here's my take I will like to share;

The bible says Jesus is first among all sons.
Jesus is man.
Jesus is angel.
Jesus is god.

Jesus is Man:
While we were not told Jesus is Adam. We know he was addressed as the second Adam. He was conceived after the Holyspirit overshadowed Mary. He was born as a baby, grew as a boy, his adult like was documented when his ministry began after his baptism up until his crucifixion.
He experienced every emotion of man. And which is why he is able to intercede appeal to God on our behalf since he was in touch with our feeling, weaknesses, indecision, etc.

Jesus is Angel: (Theophany)
While angel simply means messenger of God just like Prophet, we also need to distinguish between angel and prophet.
Angels are usually not men. God can use men as angels. Angel's can also appear as men to fulfill whatever God needs to be done.
We have seen in the old testament where God appeared to Abraham, Jacob, Noah, Lot, etc in the form of angels.
We even saw where God appeared to Moses as a burning bush. And also as a Rock and Rod of Moses which healed the Israelites.
God also appeared to Joshua as Leader of army on his way to battle.
So Jesus was an Angel of God.
If Michael is the first of the Angels. Then Jesus is very likely the same person as Angel Michael.
However the contradiction is that Jesus is a prince of peace while Michael is an angel of battles.

Jesus is god.
This is the most controversial.
While some believe Jesus is The God, I opine that Jesus is a god.
Jesus himself taught that he was simply the Son of God. He taught that he could do nothing without his Father, God.
He cautioned Peter when he tried to worship him.
Even as an Angel he caused John to only worship God in revelations.
Stephen at the point of his death saw Jesus and God as separate entities. Jesus standing at the right hand of God.
Jesus is god just as God made Moses a god to Pharaoh.
God had elevated Jesus above human standard and made him a god.
But still there's a difference between Jesus being a god and the God father.
Which is why it still boils down to idolatry to worship Jesus instead of God.

triplechoice:
Eradicate which fetish practices?

Don't be fooled by the singing of worship songs.

Sitting on that throne symbolizes something.

Do you know what it is?

And do you know that he had to perform a lot of what you term fetish practices before he could be crowned?

Are you not still happy he identifies with Christ or atleast with a church?

This is the more reason you should pray for him.
If truly the Christian God is greater than the other gods, then he will be able to cleanse them of idolatry. But if not then it will be business as usual.

Righteousness2:
The Bible says, a Man shall not put on a woman's Garment neither should a woman put on a man's garment. All that do such are Abomination to GOD.

Eternity is a very Serious Matter! It is a Personal Race so do not let anyone irrespective of title or Position make you miss your place in Eternity.

Nobody will answer or speak for you before GOD.

So Get the Word of GOD ( The Holy Bible) and stick to what it says not what Man thinks.

Heaven is Real
Hell is real
Don't play with your Eternity

I really wish to meet you in person.
It's easy to quote the bible says this or that but are you keeping all these commandments in the bible in real life?
Cos anyone who knows the over 600 laws knows no one can keep them. And according to James, if you're guilty of 1 then you're guilty of all.

Imagine you're still quoting the same old testament verses that the Apostles agreed being led by the Holyspirit that Christians should not be enburdened with.

Acts 15:28-29
For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us ito lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”

Odewaleadesoye:
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You still made sure you took FTC.
You need to be less self-centered.

Gospelpreacher1:
Can a man take fire in his bosom, and his clothes not be burned?
Can one go upon hot coals, and his feet not be burned?
GOD is Holy and without Holiness, no eyes will see Him.
The Eyes of the LORD are too pure to behold Iniquity
Except you don't value your soul or you wanna deceive yourself

I was wondering what happened to this dude all this years after such massive hits like Fimile and Whine for me.

Religion has a way of destroying potentials.
Although to few it helps them discover their potentials. It's 2 edged.

So Kaz who was the toast of the Music industry suddenly shelved all his booming music career because someone convinced him that God is angry with him for his style of music?

He was a successful secular artist but now an unsuccessful gospel artist.

I feel quite sad for him. Because he allowed himself to be convinced his secular music was a sin.
That's like saying the books of Ecclesiastes and Songs of Solomon should not be included in the bible.

Kanye West, Justin Bieber are good examples of how you can be a good Christian and still make secular music.

I'm sure some how he's coming to his senses which is why he sees how being a Christian doesn't stop you from enjoying entertainment like BBN or even participating in it.

After all most of the BBN housemates have always been Christians.

aynerodcirus:
Na you gangan dey act all amnesiac. As if her words got to you. Did it happen to you? Were u lured with biscuit and credit card? Lolz .... Na question she ask o, wey u don turn am to quarrel, begin dey act like dog wey car tire march hin leg.

I'm a guy bro.
I dont know her but her comment got my attention cos she was acting all Gucci like she had always been making money and never asked a guy for credit (recharge) or never liked being taken out by a guy.

That was just fake to me.

KingOdart:
www.vanguardngr.com/2021/08/nigerian-student-emerges-world-brightest-student

Greensprings? That's like 1.5 million for school fees.
Beauty, Brain and OBO... serious 3ple threat.
This one papa go collect bride price even though she be yoruba.

Romanoff:
Ah.

Na wa o.

This woman stayed with him from when they were both in the university of Abuja. This woman is his ride or die, day one woman.

I wonder what could have gone wrong especially now that they have money.

I doubt that it is infidelity on her part cause she could have chosen to be unfaithful to him when he was broke. Why leave now that there's money if she was all about the money?

I'll sha be waiting for more gist as it unfolds.

Indeed, money alone cannot sustain a marriage o.

I'm glad you expressed some wisdom.
Thanks to the power of media, most Psquare fans assumed Paul was the good gentle twin and concluded Peter was the evil twin.
Whereas the reverse is the case.

Honestly I'm questioning every travel Buhari makes now.
He might claim to be going to UK for check-up whereas he is actually headed to the middle east for islamisation agenda.

Bearing in mind that to a Christian evangelism is the way to establish God's kingdom on earth.
Whereas to a Muslim, Jihad is the way to establish God's kingdom on earth.

Religion and politics remain the greatest weapons of destruction.

Ishilove:
You must be mistaking me for one of the underaged children you lure into your bedroom with shawarma and ice cream. Now fück off and stay fūcked off.

I hate fakeness.
Every girl passed through a phase/age where Sharwarma and credit was a big deal.
So quit acting like you never went through that just cos you making your own money now.

truthsayer009:
My brother, leave women in this discussion oh. You will see a Woman with PhD well read and educated, she will argue this thing with you that women using those charms doesn't matter. When it comes to issues regarding men, they will throw all the sense of reasoning away.

Having conversations on anything regarding men is dead on arrival. Until an house maid is charming their little male child, that is the only time they will respond.

Lol @ bolded
Some times experience is the best teacher.

Ishilove:
Are there really women who can be bound by

Sharwarma- 500/1000
Credit- 500
Indomie and eggs- 450

??

Why are you acting all amnesiac?
If we dig deep I'm sure you lost your V to sharwarma and ice cream.

DropsMic:
....

Same religion, different practitioners

Lol if Christianity is to be fully adhered too, what the Talibans are fighting for is same with Christians- to establish God's kingdom on earth.

While Judaism and Islam believe in judging non-compliance though punishment and even death, Christianity believes in leaving judgment to God.
Though Christian leaders occasionally are not patient enough to wait for God's judgment so they implement punishment too.

Romanoff:
I've witnessed the impact of these above mentioned people, so I know they exist. But stories of men charmed by women haven't impacted me or my loved ones in any way or even anyone I know.

Am I right to assume you're an atheist?
And Invariably your disbelief in God translates to disbelief in evil powers?

Romanoff:
I doubt that they are.

Maybe I'll change my mind when I see someone affected but so far, I haven't.

I'm pretty sure you've not seen a terrorist, kidnapper or a paedophile before.
Does that mean you dont see anything wrong in their crimes too?

Romanoff:
It's similar to people who sell placebo.

Placebo isnt harmful right?
Charms are.

Romanoff:
I think it's best to target people that patronise them. It's the belief that the products work that makes people buy them.

Let me explain what you just said. According to your analogy,
Don't arrest the drug dealer only arrest the customers?

Whether it works or not is subject to opinion.
Cos it probably actually works.
But the real issue here is that even from your submission here you just confirmed that these charm sellers should be immune to arrest only those wo patronised them should be arrested?