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debosky: Any generalization as you term it must go back to the roots of that religion and the behaviour of its primary proponents. Mohammed was violent in his propagation of the religion and those have come behind (now termed extremists) have only maintained the propagation of the violence initiated at its start.

I’m afraid I don’t agree with the implied conclusion of the above i.e. Islam is a violent religion. The above is not enough, without the presence of bigotry, to reach such a conclusion.

I am however not surprised by your aggressive condemnation of Islam as a violent religion. You’ve chosen to ignore the presence of violence in many regions of the world ranging from Ireland to Lebanon to the Pacific Basin and involving many religions from Christianity to Hinduism, and decided to associate Islam more than any other religion with violence.

The Muslim conquest of Spain, the Crusades – which were not begun by Muslims -, and the Ottoman domination of eastern Europe have wrongfully provided a historical memory of Islam as being related to force and power. You and many in the western world continue use this as a basis to call Islam a violent religion.

Moreover, you are probably using the upheavals of the past few decades in the Middle East and especially movements using the name of Islam and seeking to solve problems of the Muslim world created by conditions and causes beyond the control of Muslims to justify your stance.

As far as violence in the sense of the use of unjust force against the rights of others and laws is concerned, Islam stands totally opposed to it. Rights of human beings are defined by Islamic Law and are protected by this Law which embraces not only Muslims but also followers of other religions who are considered as 'People of the Book (ahl al-kitab)'. If there is nevertheless violation in Islamic society, it is due not to the teachings of Islam but the imperfection of the human recipients of the Divine Message.

Danka7777: Give honor to whom honor is due. General Sani Abacha, a bold leader, a strong leader, a fearless leader, who fought with the international powers on the control of Nigeria economy and oil, eventually, he was defeated and murdered. We, who know you, admire your tenacity to succeed under pressure, economic shackles, sanctions, vituperation, threats, are appreciative of your 5 years in service.

I know this comment will generate a lot of attack from ignorant people, please, before you attack, go and study deeply about the successes of General Sani Abacha and why he was killed.

You are developing a reputation for apparent reasonableness with your recent posts. May I recommend that instead of assuming that folks who may disagree with you are ignorant, you yourself support your stance with verifiable facts. Revisionist are numerous here, do not risk joining their fold.

It seems to me as if any generalization should require the exhibition by a majority, of the acts or behavior being generalized. To take the behavior or a minute number of muslims or christians to conclude that any of these religions is evil, or its practitioners are evil, is actually senseless and possibly bigoted

Your answer lies in one Yoruba adage "eni ale mu n'anle idi mo". na him be say "na person wey we strong pass(weaker person) we dey grope with prick without worrying about any resulting dirty slap.

CHESSBOARD: Stingy Yoruba man, see the kind of food he gave Orji Uzor Kalu, Bread and stew

I'm afraid you need to broaden your horizon enough to become aware of fine foods including the Yoruba 5 course meal. The 5 course meal starts with Yoruba with nicely sliced bread, followed by the remaining courses. What you see in the picture is the 1st of the 5 courses.

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I thought JTF captured and killed this Shekau guy, why is he still apparently alive. He accuses the government of killing women and children and lying about arrested BH members. A war has now been declared on Emirs, Governors, and other BH enemies. The guy appears angry which tells me that JTF is making some headway.

Both BH and JTF should stop attacking innocent Nigerians, women and children - this is unacceptable. I'm not sure Nigerians will mourn the demise of any Emirs or Governors who become collateral damage. This madness must be checked.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txUJCOKTIuk&feature=player_detailpage

The Islamic insurgent group, Jama’atu ahlis sunnah lil daawati wal jihad, popularly known as Boko Haram, has declared a full scale war on Northern leaders, governors, and officials in authority.
In an Hausa language video by its leader, Abubakar Shekau, posted on YouTube, the group said it would begin to target the leaders.

“This message is for those in authority (Emirs, Governors, and people in authority). Wallahi you have no resting place again and no resting time again, either we are here or we are not,” the group said.
Mr. Shekau did not elaborate on the group’s reason for deciding to target Northern leaders, but said “you (the Northern leaders) have messed up yourselves and you have messed up your own situation.”

No negotiation with government

The insurgents also condemned what they described as the lies of negotiations with government officials. Mr. Shekau said his group was not negotiating and had no plans to negotiate with the government.“The claim that we are negotiating with the state is untrue, that is the figment of their imagination.” He said. “We are not in dialogue with anyone, but this seems to feed their taste or their appetite for disinformation.”
While denying peace negotiation, the Boko Haram leader admitted that some of their members had been killed by security operatives.

“All I can confirm is that they are killing us rather than dialoguing with us,” he said.
Attack on Women. Mr. Shekau also accused the security operatives of targeting female members of the sect. He alleged that the women are tortured after incarceration by security agencies.

“As at Saturday when I made this video, between 7 and 10 of them (women) have been incarcerated,” Mr. Shekau said. “We don’t know where they are kept or what they are doing to them.”

“But as Muslims, we know what unbelievers do to women …Now, married women are victims of State terror,” he added.
The Boko Haram leader said his group would retaliate by focusing its attack on women related to security and state officials.

Condemns “anti- Islam” video
Mr. Shekau also condemned the video, made by an Israeli –American, which ‘dishonours’ Prophet Muhammed.
“I have words for you (the makers of the video). All these have no impact on the prophet you know, however you wait and see what the consequences will be for you,” he said.

We are still strong
The Boko Haram leader also claimed that the alleged arrest or killing of the group’s spokesman, Abu Qaqa, and other leaders, was not true. Even though he admitted to the killing of many of its members, Mr. Shekau claimed the group’s leadership is still intact.

“The most bogus of these claims is that the leadership of our group has been decimated or arrested,” Mr. Shekau states while laughing. “It is probably the leadership of the rogue group that they killed which they created in the first place.”
He said Abu Qaqa, the group’s spokesman is alive and that any information to the contrary was false.
“You can go ahead and even declare that this broadcast is fiction,” he said.

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The properties in question are said to belong to Ikemba's father. Would a knowledgeable person tell me why these siblings did not share the 38 properties among themselves after the death of their father Ojukwu Sr. and when Ikemba was alive? Why did Ikemba have to die before the sharing? What's the real story here?

Wasn't Shekau killed by JTF last week? Was that his ghost in the video? Anyway the message is simply the ranting of an ant! If foolish GEJ has played his cards right, that Shekau boy would have been smoked out by now. SMH

ikeyman00: ^^^^^ u mind telling us what really taking place in the north

what the pace of development over ther

You sound like an illiterate creating. This thread is not about North, open a new thread if u want to discuss North. Mum

I'm sure this move was well reasoned. Would someone please tell us what programs were put in place to assist the displaced market women and other youths who make their living through business activities in the market?

Is Bianca as bad as people are making her out to be? Do we have NLers who have another perspective? Something is not right about the way she is being treated and I am not convinced that her humiliation is self inflicted.

Danka7777: But as I said before, the real fight is between Ikemba's older children and Bianca. These children will not let her have it as they want it too for their mothers.

So these siblins, doctors, lawyers, engineers, who are primarily men, are running around fighting a woman about properties and disgracing the Ojukwu family name and ndiigbo, correct? All the family elders had to do was to summon Bianca and all parties involved and quietly resolve the issue. Instead they are all disgracing ndiigbo and you sir, are getting close to joining their gang.

May God have mercy on our people. I'm afraid the impact of this flood will be felt across Nigeria for years to come. I awaid the federal government's plan for disaster relief.

Lets assume that Danka is correct, we know that there are at least 38 choice properties in question, why then can't the said siblings honor Ikemba by allowing Bianca to keep the Ikoyi home? Ijukwu had custody of only 5 out of the 38 properties owned by Ikemba's father, the siblings should be dividing those among themselves and allow Bianca to keep the 5 which were in the custody of the Ikemba's. If greed would not allow them to do that, they should at least make an exception and let Bianca and Ikemba's residence in Ikoyi remain with Bianca. Greedy people.

Bianca’s quit notice, an abomination -Okwuosa

What a shame, I was expecting all parties to work things out amicably.

The feud in the family of the late Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu over the sharing of the property of their father, Sir Louis Ojukwu, took another dimension yesterday with a top confidant of the late Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu, Sir Hon. Azuka Okwuosa, accusing Ikemba's siblings of committing abomination by giving his widow, Bianca, a quit notice from the late husband's residence less than a year after his demise.


Okwuosa, who is an ex-chairman of Nnewi North Local Government Area of Anambra State, told newsmen in Awka, the state capital, that by their actions, Ikemba's siblings, especially his nephew, Dr. Ike Ojukwu, have shown an inconsequential quest for materialism, which their late brother was not known for.


He wondered why they were so much in a hurry to go after the five property in the custody of Ikemba, out of over 38 scattered all over Lagos, Port Harcourt and Onitsha, stressing that they should have exercised patience and waited for Ikemba's will to be read.


The former commissioner for Works and Transport said that by asking their brother's widow, Ambassador Bianca Ojukwu, to quit the 29, Queens Drive, Ikoyi, Lagos home when she was still mourning her husband was a taboo in Igboland and warned them to retrace their steps or incur the wrath of the land.


Okwuosa, who was reacting to recent interviews by Dr. Ike Ojukwu, said for insulting his uncle's widow, Bianca, Dr. Ojukwu had shown that he never even had any respect for the late Ikemba.


He said Dr. Ojukwu, being a member of the third generation in the family, had no right to speak about the said property of Sir Louis Odumegwu Ojukwu when his (Dr. Ike) father, Professor Joseph Ojukwu, and Ikemba's wife were alive.


The Ikemba's confidant and associate said: "I found it nauseating. What the young man is trying to do is to tarnish the name of the family and the reputation Ikemba built for many years. We expect the elders from both family and community to call him to order. He should watch his utterances. We do not oppose having issues in the family, but where I will take exception is when Ojukwu's name is being rubbished.


"His father is in a better position to call him to order. He claims that Emeka Ojukwu (Jnr.) is in support of what he is doing, Emeka is an adult who can speak for himself. He should stop dropping names.


"I want to believe that Ike Ojukwu was quoted out of context, but if he was not, he was far from the truth on the issue of property. He is talking about five properties out of over 38 of them. The late Ikemba Nnewi was instrumental to the recovery of those property, including 29, Queens Drive, Ikoyi, which had been abandoned in those years when he came back from Ivory Coast, through the instrumentality of his lawyer, the great late Chief Rotimi Williams (SAN).


"Bianca has not finished mourning the husband, my mentor. I find everything absurd. The family should go into sober reflection and they should wait for the will to be released. Anybody who insults the wife of Ojukwu, Ndigbo will not take it lightly with that person."

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Back in 1993

The Lagos-based Daily Independent Newspaper on Thursday, June 12, 2003, published what it desperately commended to its readers as an important scoop on the "agenda and blueprint" of the "new administration" of President Olusegun Obasanjo.

In one of its leading articles euphorically entitled "Obasanjo moves to restructure Nigeria - unfolds blueprint on new political order," the paper claimed that its investigation had uncovered a "soon-to-be-unveiled fresh blueprint, kept to his (president's) chest all this while…" which contained the president's "moves to convene a national conference for the restructuring of the nation."

In an apparent effort to contribute its quota towards the seeming all-out efforts by some sections of the Nigerian press to market so as to legitimize the legitimacy-challenged administration of the president of Nigeria, the Daily Independent described this yet-to-be-revealed "blueprint" as the president's "boldest and most comprehensive political agenda in his trimester presidency so far." With these words the paper wetted the appetite of its readers towards the revelation of the so-called "boldest and most comprehensive political agenda" of the president of Nigeria.

I suspect the same thing which happened to OBJ's big SNC plans or even worse will happen to this plan of GEJ's, that is even if the story is true.

I'm sorry to say that expecting big ideas such as conducting a SNC from GEJ is like expecting Rick Ross to miraculously outrun Mr. Usain Bolt in a 100meter race.

I dey laugh o.

[quote author=Mr. Globe]so you didnt read from the article where it clearly stated majority of those deported are not from Anambra and investigations were still ongoing[/quote]Majority = 51%, 65% 80%, 99%, or

If 80% of those deported to the East were non Igbos, Obi would have made that very clear. Since he didn't do that, where did you get your 80% from?

homerac7: @ Cleverly,

can u pls take a break wt d pix so dt we can have a smooth discussion thread to take care of dis vermin called ndu chuks and make a statement to his ilks dt d nation many good men and women r trying to salvage and leave for our children is not for tribal oligarchs and savages like theirs. ds rat has been made out so he has to b dealt wt appropriately.

I'm glad you are ready for a smooth discussion, but lets make it one without childish name calling. To engage me further, you'll have to communicate in Pidgin or proper English. I will not respond to any of your posts which contain abbreviated gibberish.

Now, without preconceived notions and prejudice, what exactly is your disagreement with my posts?

homerac7: ^

oga sir, pls leave d facade, ur bold-face gra-gra is useless here. wht is demanded of u is simple and humble maturity to show remorse for dt costly "slip" u made in ur post. pls dont claim it as a joke, otherwise dt wld make u look worse dn it already is. but since u want me to spell it to u even at face of obvious as i made it in my earlier post, i shall do dt just to make u see dt my reason is objective and nothn more sir.

ok, here we go; whats ur meaning of "...once our people take control of power in Nigeria..."?

Our people are certainly not the PDP. One would have thought you understood that, but you may have some prejudices which did not allow you to see what was obvious. One would also hope that you are not hiding your illiteracy and being a dullard, behind the silly abbreviations contained in your posts.

What is wrong with these officials,is this the first time you are sponsoring women to Hajj. Why did the Saudis decide to deport the women this year and did not deport the ones who went to Hajj unaccompanied last year and before?

Starting from your boss GEJ, you people have been disgracing our country in a way and manner we have never seen throughout the history of Nigeria. Even Malawi is insulting us, not to talk of Cameroon which opened up various dams which has caused the deaths of hundreds of Nigerians and cost us billions of naira. What was the Federal government's response to the flooding - an official said we have done our best!!!! SMH

You people don fall our hand finish. 2015 is just around the corner.

homerac7: What nonsense r ds? ds sort of stupeed mindset led ds nation down ds dark alley of pandemonium n u r still nursing it in Q3 2012? shame on u man, dts grossly foolish of u sir and ur post shows high sense of irresponsibility. u r an anti-thesis to every good man and woman working painfully and yet, tirelessly towards building a our society of better and free future. ur reasoning as displayed here sits in same type wt Boko Haram. May ur wishes fail by d powers of The Most High. may ideeots wt ur kind of thinking fail by any means to reach positions of influence in any corner of ds nation. and above all, may the best man/woman for d job rule ds land irrespective of tribe, tongue, language, religion and creed.

You spent enough time writing your gibberish than you would have, expressing your views more succinctly. Please rephrase your thoughts so that we can respond appropriately. Thanks.

Antivirus92: but it can swear out my head that 8/10 of the deportees are not igbos. So you want peter obi to dump them into the river niger before you know that they are not igbos. Fassholeiola is a callous man but peter obi has igboman blood inside him.

Stop making up your own facts if you want to be taken seriously. The notion that 80% of the deportees are not Igbos is very significant and if true, Obi should have made that a major talking point because not doing so would make Obi, senseless, incompetent, and a dummy - I'm sure that is not what you are implying.


@sheyuy, According to the story posted by the OP, Obi was said to have confronted Lagos State Governor, Mr. Babatunde Fashola, at the Governors’ Forum parley on the deportation issue. The Lagos governor was said to have denied knowledge of this.

^^^^ Nice theory you have up there, but it does not explain why there has been more flooding along the River Benue basin, an area which is just downstream of the opened Cameroon dams. Benue was not dredged. Do you have any theory on the why flooding of Benue was worse that that of the River Niger?

The bit about the Igbo deportees still living in shelters is eye opening and quite disgraceful. Equally disgraceful is the deportation of these victims in the first place. One can understand why Fashola is now denying being knowledgeable of the deportation. SMH

Interesting Musiwa. May I ask you when were those dams on the Niger river built and when did Asaba become an entity?

Insha Allah, once our people take control of power in Nigeria, we will forcibly retake Bakassi. The resulting war with Cameroon may be what Nigerians needs to become nationalists and patriots.

Moda F the foreign bodies who ruled against Nigeria and may OBJ and his cohorts pay dearly for giving these people away.

That dredging caused the massive flooding does not make sense to me. If anything, dredging should help to reduce flooding because one of its purposes is to gather up bottom sediments and removing them, thus allowing water to flow more freely.

The opening of Cameroon dams is more likely a major factor. GEJ and his peeps need to look into this as a national security issue. If indeed the Cameroonians intensional or unintensional caused this flooding, Nigeria must demand some sort of control of those dams.

What point is being made with this thread?

Dear President Goodluck Jonathan,

Please use the China technique against these jealous Malawians, who we know are as poor as a Catholic church rat. Bikonu, offer them N1billion financial aid, call it African Brotherhood grant, (PS Malawians have never seen that kind of money ). Tie a string to the grant which would require Nigerians to come in and manage the projects started with the grant, with the stipulation that 30% of the people employed for the projects come directly from Nigeria. Issokay to use rehabilitated MEND and Boko members in addition to some of our unemployed youths.

Nwanne m, squeeeze the balls of Dangote, Odetola, Oyenuga, Dantata, a couple of rich bishops and Imams, OBJ, IBB, and of course Danjuma, to raise another N2billion within weeks. Sneek that N2billion into Malawi after the first project gets underway. Sir, use only N300million of that to buy up their radio stations and replace their key personnel with Nigerians. The rest of N1.7billion can be used to buy miscellaneous goodwill for Nigerians and control Malawian politics.

Oga GEJ, if you do this and 3 of their best towns are not renamed, New Lagos, New Enugu, and New Kano, within 3 years, then my name is not ndu_chucks.

omenka: Na photoshop!

You are in denial, buddy. I understand your apprehension, the disgrace is a bit too much to take.

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