₦airaland Forum

SycophanticGoat:
In a sane clime, any inanimate object can contest against that dead brain dullard and beat him hands down. But since Nigeria is an evil forest, he'll definitely be reelected.

Cursed nation!!

Sycophantic Goat! Been a long time

gocac:
dont be decieved,Americans can never tell you accurately how large and powerful their asernal could be until they use it on you. remember hiroshima, when america told japan to surrender unconditionally,japan did not believe until when they saw the rivers of hirosima boiling. they the russia an ally of the U.S never knew america was capabale of annihilating japan completely, it was a shocker to world. after world warII the russians were like, so we could as well be victims of this americans, if we do nothing about our defense. from there d russians started stealing americas technology and started developing theirs.
remember the soviet union, can you quickly remember how america disintergrated the soviet union? can you also remember the 1962 cuba crisis btw america and russia? aftet JFK gave russia a final warning to leave cuba or face the full might of Americas military? you saw how the russians ran away? even vladmir putin knows what would happen to russia if he mistakenly gets into a direct military confrontation with america. china, iran , russia ,north korea name them, they all know what america is capable of doing. vladmir putin is a dictator no doubt, he was able to muscle and box the weak one of america (Obama) into a matches box, but Trump as a Republican is fearless,trigger happy, and ready to detonate bombs anywhere, and must not be given an excuse to fire, putin knows this fact, for your info republicans do the dirty job for america,
so dont underestimate the full force of america military. but sadly My fellow naija ppl no knw weytin america fit do.

But sadly too, dear gocac no know weytin russia dey capable of doing too, cos she probably watches too many US-centred 'hero' movies which are focused on spreading american propaganda. Beware of that mysterious one whom you know nothing about (russia).

Pavarottii:
Keep quiet! If u don't know anything Lemme educate u a bit. First of all get Ur facts right. As at 2011 wen GEJ assumed power, he didn't meet 60billion dollars, get it fcts right next time.

Secondly, talking about subsidy. Wen GEJ wanted to take it off and use the money to build refiniries and cut of the subsidy canals. The same canals sponsored nation wide protest and occupied Nigeria. And he agreed and left it. Now u r buying subsidized fuel for 145 during recession. Now u begin to see that it was u guys that lost not GEJ. Secondly he still used the money half subsidy to start a TAM on the refineries, cos he planned to provitise dem after the TAM. BUT Ur buffoon, uneducated and corrupt buhari came and stopped it and force it to full work and crashed it. It's no surprised why our refiniroes are at 0%. Cos the cabals that av never wanted to work for about 40years are happy again. The northern cabals. Even deziani tried clamping Dem with the PIB but they made sure it wasn't passed even till today. That's why there is no court that has any case against deziani in the whole of Nigeria. So am sure av schooled why are our refiniries are not working and will never work. Except we av incorruptible people like GEJ at the helms of power. With CORRUPT HANDS LIKE BUHARI. IT WILL NEVER WORK. I Want u to think. Why did buhari grab the ministry of petroleum, those were advice from the cabals . Obj is part of the scheme too that won't want it to work. My friend buhari himself is deceiving Nigerians that r supporting him especially u, omenka, sarrki, madridguy, seunmsg, ipobexposed etc.

U guys think GEJ would suffer for it unfortunately Nigerians will not him.

I hope u learnt something?

This is a beautifully crafted comedy.... bravo! I'm impressed.

Desyner:
inspection isn't a big deal once the favlt is known.

When you are remotely notified of a fault, the next step is to hit the field to carry out direct-assessment; you don't do that from the control room.

Desyner:
Why inspect 'hundreds of kilometre' when scada can reveal the location. Do you know the strength, speed and precision of scadas?

Monitoring doe not replace inspection bro...

oshe11:
exactly! meaning U shudnt av quoted me in d first place

ever wondered y ISIS r trying to bomb America?

#foodforthought

I quoted you as a good Samaritan because from your comment, you were obviously in the wrong thread.

Desyner:
What are drones for? Hmm tell me?

Drones will completely replace human inspection right?... You started by claiming there wasn't any need for inspection cos the source of the fault should have been detailed via SCADA in a developed world. Now you claim drones should be used for the inspection?... How many drones do you really think are capable of flying the length of a transmission cable?... now we arent talking of just a spot inspection, but a length spanning hundreds of kilometres?.... Do you really think using those kind of drones are cheaper or more efficient in inspection than an actual fly-over in a chopper?

Bro, without going into much arguments, SCADA helps you monitor and control, it does not replace 'inspection.' Also, the use of drones for inspection may sound or seem fancy, but they aren't necessarily cheaper or as effective as sending a pair of real human eyes out there. And finally, what we have on this thread (i.e. inspection using choppers etc) is still very much the current inspection mode obtainable even in the most developed parts of the world.

oshe11:
dats d problem


u dnt knw if i read it or nt bt u decided I didnt so u cn quote me

your thoughts tho

nxt time quote me wit facts

My thoughts were simple, you walked into a room where Edo governorship tribunal is being discussed and you proceeded to rant about EFCC, Whistle-blowers and recovered funds. If you actually read what was written on the door and still proceeded to type what you typed, then I've got no further words for you.

Desyner:
When you pinpoint the location of fault, the need to start tracing the point of fault is eliminated.

Is eliminated right?.... You notice a loss in signal from the control room, and you genuinely think it's needless to go out in the field to physically inspect, trace or investigate the true nature of the damage?... An advanced SCADA system will supposedly do all that for you while you sit permanently in the office?.... Wonderful!

Asukwo!!

Desyner:
What we have in Naija is hardly a SCADA. Higher precision SCADAs pinpoint location of damage in seconds and to the last kilometre.

ANd when you pinpoint the location from the CCR, what do you do next?

oshe11:
since u knw whr Im going to, hence U cud ascertain dat Im lost


pls come n go n cari me dere

Hehe.. abeg try and find your way yourself; next time do endeavour to read what's written on the door before you walk in to speak.

omenkaLives:
What amazes me isn't ffk's allegation, I'm used to his idiocy. What is really surprising is the fact kids who were screaming at the top of every rooftop in their five villages that not a dime was found and that the whole "drama" was staged by EFCC are now the people gobbling at ffk's sputum in agreement the money belongs to Amaechi.

Wonders indeed shall never end.

"are now the people gobbling at ffk's sputum"

Yuck!... Omenka you no go kill person with this ur English

Lol... She was too tired to sing a single verse, but she had the energy to start arguing and fighting the person who asked her to sing?... Chaii! The last time I tried, I couldnt remember the last line of the anthem too, and that doesnt make me a mumu cos it's been a very long time since I had to sing it last. No need for this failed attempt at damage control...

oshe11:
IF THE WHISTLE BLOWER REFUSES TO TELL US THE NAME OF THE OWNER OF THE MONEY, HE SHUD BE ARRESTED AS THE OWNER



UNLESS HE HAS TOLD THE EFCC BUT THE ARE HIDING IT FOR SOME REASON



IF AN AGENCY LIKE EFCC CANNOT INVESTIGATE AND PROVIDE THE NAME OF THE OWNER OF AN APARTMENT THEN EFCC SHOULD BE SCRAPPED COS ITS USELESS.....


AGENT IS JUST A MIDDLEMAN, ABI THE LANDLORD NOR WRITE RECEIPT GIVE THE TENANT....


WHO IS DECEIVING WHO?


EFCC IS USELESS AND THEY HAVE BEEN COMPROMISED SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL

Lol.. na so the thing dey start... This one seems to be lost.

Desyner:
In serious nations they use SCADA to monitor power system failure more.

Do you really think they don't have that in Nigeria?... After a potential problem is discovered (via SCADA), you dont think they need to physically go out to inspect the equipment/facilities?

PetroleumJelly:
BTW, Fashola is a 100 square inch peg trying desperately hard to fit into a 20 square inch hole.

Doesn't work.

I don't care what you Nigerians say, talking about how you don't need technocrats as ministers. This isn't America, I hope you guys understand that. This is Nigeria, a developing country.

In America, technocrats have slaved over the years, such that, management of sectors can be achieved with little technical background knowledge.

There, systems work.

You can't extrapolate a working system to encompass that of a developing system, as the latter proceeds the former.

What we need now are technocrats everywhere. I would even suggest technocrats with MBAs as ministers, rather than what we currently have.

We need to get our sectors working first. We need Power at 20-30GW in the next 5 years. After that, you can higher a butcher as the power minister for all I care.

Can't we just do thinfs right for once in this country?

We are struggling with an abysmal 3GW of power and you hire a lawyer to remedy that? Sigh!

Meanwhile, humans like us, with one head, mostly 2 arms and 2 feet are out there in other countries doing wonders, while we play politics with our sectors, awarding them as spoils of electoral victory, akin to war.

Google already had self driving cars, Tesla has electric vehicles you simply charge up like your phone.

What are we doing

No offence but this argument holds no water, we have several agencies under the ministry that are headed by technocrats; Nigeria's power infrastructure today is also largely privatised and are being run by technocrats while the ministry of power only oversees. A known fact is that the biggest problems plaguing the Nigerian power sector today aren't even technical issues, they are more of administrative and legal issues; disputes between worker's unions, GENCOS, TRANSCO, DISCOs and gas suppliers. Fashola also seems to be doing a good job at settling a number of those disputes; supply some of the much needed funds in the sector and a lot of bottlenecks would be broken. Except you mean to tell me an engineer/technocrat would solve the sector's problems without money just as the previous technical ministers achieved greatness; or maybe an engineer as the power minister would somehow pacify our pipeline vandals and miraculously supply gas.

Meanwhile, you dont expect a large pile of rotten garbage power infrastructure to be transformed into uninterrupted power overnight, do you?

cc: fxkay1

kenonze:
I stopped reading the moment I saw uniport without any figure

E pain am

etenyong:
EFCC/SR should do proper investigation before involving media or going to press. Why confusing Nigerian on who owns the property and money. Its not about who owns or live in the apartment but who owns the money is what should concern the EFCC and Nigerians.

The last time i checked, EFCC hasn't made a single mention since this story broke. I'm not sure I understand why you're dragging them into this.

AirFireEarthH20:
so if you own a house and rent it to a tenant and your tenant is later known or labelled an armed robber by the police, and the police also called you an armed robber, will that be ok by you? Don't worry it will happen to you

Go back and learn to read properly; I don't see anywhere in that report where it says the landlord is a thief.

DickTator1:
What was the use of naming the owner of the house if he had nothing to do with the stolen money?

Lol... you have to start from somewhere to unravel a mystery.

A simple psychology question, if $10 million cash was seized from a Nigerian who flew into London in one of Tinubus jets, would you actually question the essence of mentioning the name of the owner of the aircraft?... Please answer honestly...

DickTator1:
This morning I had a whatsapp message about Adamu Muazu owning the unclaimed $50mil found at a house in Lagos.
I sent it to all my contacts on whatsapp.
Few hours later the story has changed to a different person.
Am not an apologist for PDP or Muazu but if this was America or Europe, Saharareporters would have been dealt a serious fine.

You are right about Sahara Reporters rushing to publish a story swiftly and even before due confirmation, but on this particular case you raised above, you're the one dancing naked in public.

Go back and read the title of that story you posted again; this time, try and read it slowly, and then you may realise that 'owner of house' (a.k.a Landlord of the block of flats) isn't the same thing as 'owner' of recovered funds.

Chaii... Sahara why?

Ngokafor:
.....Ribadu was supported by ordinary Nigerians like myself but destroyed by Nigerian politicians both in PDP and those in APC now...Thats why sane folks root for strong institutions that will out-live whoever constituted it..

...I know that apc apologists like you are too far gone to be see reasons,therefore i will stop wasting my time and watch you and your party's circus performance in the name of 'corruption' fight...by the way,in all your epistle above,you failed to illustrate what has been achieved so far..What you have inundated me with are conjectures and speculations,with future expectations thrown in the mix..done with you dude..so long.

Nope, there were several Nigerians spewing this exact same words (selective justice) against Ribadu and OBJ as you are doing today.

This ain't an APC or PDP matter, I supported Ribadu 100%, I supported even the ghost workers (Waziri and Lamorde) 100% and today I am supporting Magu 100%. And FYI, my support has nothing to do with Buhari or no Buhari, I understand corruption is the single biggest cankerworm forcing Nigeria to remain in the ranks of 3rd world slums so I support anything whatsoever which stands against corruption. This was the very reason I rejected GEJ cos he showed no interest whatsoever in standing up against it.

And like I always say, only strong systems can't fight corruption, you need strong people too, and as a matter of fact, it takes strong people to make strong institutions. Furthermore, we cannot automatically achieve strong institutions without first passing through the current teething stage. Jumping from zero to 100 is IMPOSSIBLE!, it's a gradual process, hence why I said you needed foresight. If you are expecting an EFCC that would from day-one, just jump and start attacking those inside the 'other-room' of the president without firstly crawling through this teething stage of attacking weaker targets first, then you are just being myopic, it can never happen.

Ngokafor:
..No true at all..Selective justuce is as useless as Zero justice...fact.

...Obasanjo did the same'corruption fight' which was essentially a ploy to hunt his enemies and not for the good of the country...Okadigbo and co were removed based on 'corruption'' yet the corruption in the senate simply escalated thereafter..

...The truth of the matter is that useless corruption fights like the ones embarked upon by Obasanjo with his EFCC then and now buhari will simply make criminals to troop to APC just like they all did to PDP to continue their loot and plunder knowing hey will be free to do so..

...Except you are determined to fool yourself for ever,what exactly has been achieved so far??...

..The truth of the matter is that a strong man to 'fight' corruption' in Nigeria now will not WORK!...Corruption has eaten deep into the fabrics of the average Nigerian to be eradicated by one weak man like buhari,who is saturated by corruption and corrupt allies.

..Strong institutions to discourage corruption and make it impossible for people to be corrupt is what any serious-minded leader should focus on not this cirrcus going on right now..

..Example was the fertilizer policy of the former Minister of Agriculture Adesina,who made it impossible for criminal middle-men to syphone fertilizers to themselves to sell at astronomical prices to farmers, thereby making fertilizers readily available to the farmers directly...Thats what we should be working on...STRONG INSTITUTIONS,NOT STRONG MAN.

I beg to differ completely. We need both strong men and strong institutions. Despite the strengthening of the institutions in the recent past, did it stop the diabolic looting?.. No!

I still maintain my stance that half bread is better than none; when a frail man eats half a loaf, it gives him the requisite energy to fight for the other half so selective justice or whatever you call it is still far better than ZERO justice. Kindly tell me, would you suggest the police should free every inmate in detention at police cells across the country because the police hasn't shown enough will to arrest all criminals out there?... Maybe you can suggest we start using only burglar proof windows and prison high fences in our houses to 'prevent' burglary and then pay ZERO attention to chasing or apprehending thieves all because you think the police does go after every thief (selective arrests).

If you play the game of chess, or if you understand the principles of the war of attrition, then maybe you will understand that in every such conquest, you typically start from eliminating the pawns before you get to the higher officials. Massive strength is required to tackle the biggest enemies, and that great strength is acquired by firstly conquering smaller targets.

Just like an attack lion which its owner sends out to eat the flesh of his enemies, when the enemies have all been consumed and the lion is already used to human flesh, it's only a matter of time before that lion starts eating the flesh of its masters friends; you claim every criminal would run to APC for protection, but it's only a matter of time before that crossing over to APC becomes ineffective to save them. With the support of Nigerians, if the EFCC keeps eliminating the smaller crooks, it would gather the required momentum/fangs to go for bigger ones. And when the crooks in opposition are exhausted, simple logic tells me the blood thirsty EFCC wouldn't just sit back.

If only Ribadu was supported by pessimistic Nigerians like yourself, if only he wasn't booted out of office unceremoniously to the excitement of Nigerians like yourself, I don't need a soothsayer to tell me that by now, the EFCC would have been so so powerful and blood thirsty sparing no one including closest friends of the govt. More foresight is needed here, you don't live in utopia...

2shur:
We remain stupid.
No wonder dobald trump shakes his head 4us.
All the monies recovered by efcc and other security agency such as customs..police.efcc..ndlea.
Of what benefit has it been to the economy.
The bastard buhari keeps talking abt giving us jobs.
If we can calculate all monies recovered.
Its close a zillion in naira.
But yet nothing to account for it.
Nepa...since i was born..never been stable.
Roads..death trap.
Health...dead
Basic amenities..zero.
Technology....zero
Of what use is the money recovered used for then.
It should be burnt..so we wid know that yes it was not needed.
Keep deceiving yourselves u bastards efcc.
Judgement awaits every dirty efcc officials who are enriching themselves through this medium.
We are all on hell
And we are never coming out till eternity.

With this your emotional rants, I'm pretty sure you would have been happier if these moneys were never discovered.

Ngokafor:
...It doesnt excuse this selective justice pertuated by buhari/apc because in the long run,nothing will be achieved....Selective justice is no justice thats our point...Its either you fight corruption holisticall or keep quiet and stop wasting peoples time..

...I personally want corruption to be eradicated but know that there is no way corrupt elements like Tinubu backed buhari/apc can do that..At the end of the day your fellow apc supporters would still come hear to cry in disappointment when nothing comes out of it..case in point Saraki and co...This whole thing is simply a charade..period.

2 things I know:

1. Selective justice is a million times better than ZERO justice.
2. Expecting a govt to probe itself is meaningless, especially in our systemless African society.

Nothing can be more unwise than to do NOTHING, simply because you cannot do everything. Nigeria today has no systems in place that can facilitate a sitting govt probing itself. Wake up from that wild utopian dream. The best time Tinubu and co should have been probed was before they got to power, expecting them to probe themselves now is just meaningless. Tinubu was in opposition for 16 years, the failure of the govt in those 16 years is the reason Tinubu and co arent in jail now. If those past admins did the right thing by probing thieves (even if it meant only the thieves in opposition), fastforward to 2015 and we would have had true saints ruling Nigeria today who would then probe the PDP thieves. I wonder how so many people cant discern this simple logic. You prefer abracadabra to be performed and all the looters arrested in one instance?... and if all looters cannot be arrested at once then no single looter should be arrested?

TPAND:
Social Media Army. Our army has become a shadow of its old glory or was that information we hear about our troops in the 80s & 90s' a fallacious concoction of vainglory without any tangible feat.
Common Boko Haram....

The military are humans not demi-gods, and a good number of those boko haram guys received similar military training in terrorist camps in Sudan and some other locations. Bokoharam also seemed more funded than the military at some point.

omenkaLives:
Hmm.. You have no idea.

God help us then!

omenkaLives:
Trust be, the day of reckoning is drawing ever closer for David Mark. The day he'd be busted, Nigerians would realise what a poor man Dangote is.

Those closest to him can testify.

Haha.. it cant be that bad can it?