₦airaland Forum

Bitterleafsoup:
Keep making excuses. Before GEJ left the Agriculture market was booming so much the Minister was featured on Forbes magazine. Face the facts this current administration had only one agenda and that was to gain power. They have never had a viable plan to build this country. When you don't plan well you plan to fail!

Those recycled criminals and Dodan Barrack touts know nothing about 21st Century governance. None of them have the experience , a past record of excellence or even a decent education to come up with solutions. We need more then prayers we need the youth to hold our leaders accountable and stop looking to the past and work on ehat is in our face now now!

Are you implying that as soon as GEJ left, the booming agriculture also left with him? ... How come that agriculture is not sustaining Nigeria now that oil price has crashed?... Oh I forgot, as soon as PMB entered, all the plants withered?

Even with the wonderful transformation agenda and the boom in agriculture and the adept economic team of GEJ, how come Nigeria's economy crashed uncontrollably as soon as global oil prices fell even before GEJ handed over?

Every human understands the correlation between global oil prices and Nigeria's economy, but obviously some adults for the sake of political sentiments have chosen to reason like kindergarten pupils. Good night!

christconscious:
Honestly speaking I did not only supported mr president but i voted for him here in lagos where i reside and most importantly i am of Igbo origin.I got entized with his campaign manifesto coupled with his speeche(s); I desired a change in govt and enchrined myself in change mantra........but to be realistic ,this country is in economic chaos and non of the campaign promises has been kickstarted talk more of fulfiling it. Imagin those that aspiring to run some programs abroad or currently running programme abroad and most of the finances comes from here,pls how will those persons cope with the rate of dollars to naira?......presdo said he is fall all but not for anybody...now I begin to wonder if the reverse is the case nw! Pls let's stop ethnic statements and party partisanship and be truthful to our self...neither do I support PDP who has ruled for 16yr without substancial progress. Last bullet: let's join hands together in prayers for God to give our presdo His wisdom and Grace to turn things around to the favour of common man in the street....its our civic duty and for the christians it is a command from our Lord Jesus christ to do.thanks

Thank God you know, all Nigeria needs is prayers now because if the oil price doesn't come back up, those things you complain of will continue to get worse. And yes, even if Buhari had the brains of 10 Einsteins (which he obviously doesnt have), there is no economic magic that instantly turn around the economic turmoil we find ourselves in presently.

This is purely what you get when a nation depends on only one volatile priced commodity for its income, and then the country at the same time has no savings for rainy days such as these. The unfortunate fact remains that even any effort made at diversifying the economy today cannot still yeild fruits instantly, it will take a substantial time to manifest even whilst things continue to get worse. Nigerians need to brace up for bone-breaking recession, this is beyond Buhari or any voodoo economist.

id911:
So if our oil dries up today or the price comes down less than $10 a barrel and remains that way forever, Nigeria will cease to exit abi? So you don't know what a good leader with creative mind who thinks out of the box entails? Does Singapore, S. Korea, Malaysia, etc, have oil? So u no no say na REAL leaders turned those countries around? Na wao

DedeNkem:
You still have old mentality of dependence on oil. The same mentality that kept Nigeria from growing.
Does every developed and progressive nation have or depend solely on oil money?

No nation or even a person should depend on only a single commodity or source of income, especially when this commodity has such a very volatile price. However the fact of this matter is simple, Nigeria unfortunately depends on only one commodity and the price of this commodity has crashed uncontrollably. The crash in price of this commodity has consequently led to a crash of Nigeria's economy.

The second and most painful fact of the matter which too many people have failed to realise is that there is basically no economic magic that can be done to save Nigeria from its present economic turmoil on the short term. If the oil prices don't miraculously turn around now, I forsee the Naira dropping to N400 to $1 or worse very soon. Any efforts made at diversifying the economy now (no matter how wonderful the policies are) can only yield positive effects at a much later date after Nigerians must have already suffered a lot. That is the unavoidable reality on ground.

Meanwhile some Nigerians are still complaining of inability to obtain forex to go on xmas vacations and I laugh because its clear a lot of people dont still appreciate how bad things are presently.

DedeNkem:
PDP has no credibility whatsoever to criticize APC or any other political party! Most of the problems and hardship we've in this country today since the inception "democracy", were created by the PDP!

So PDP should keep quiet. They helped ruin this country!

I'm no more a fan of Buhari, he has proved me wrong. He's very incompetent and clueless to be president. I'm so disappointed in him. Being a former dictator who lasted few months in power, is not a good leadership qualification.

The terrible economy we had before his presidency, has become worse under his presidency.

And I suppose the freefall in global oil prices which led to the terrible economy in the first instance, I suppose the oil price has risen in your own world right?

Impeach kwa?

PDP and their train of shameless wailers never cease to amaze and amuse. Even when humans pass away, loved ones dont keep crying continuously like this. But it seems these bleedy jonathanians will be crying like babies for straight 4 years. And then it will continue beyond 2019 to complete it a straight 8 years.

In some of their kpako minds, if PMB is impeached, then their lord and saviour GEJ will automatically become president till 2019

LordAdam:
If not that there is freedom of speech, them suppose analyze your brain.

Oga, na management we dey yarn. When the economy shrunk under GEJ, people did not feel it. Now that PMB has entered, everyone is feeling it. Is it not the same zombies that are saying a leader is always at fault for everything that happens under his domain?

If yes, why do you want to blame GEJ and exonerate PMB.

Receive sense before it is too late. Cramjones don waka leave una. You better march before all your twitter followers unfollow you finish.

Use your brain and call a spade a spade.

I've always said GEJ was not perfect but he left Nigeria better than he met it.

You say PMB is a saint, can you say Nigeria is better off now than it was 7 months ago? Say yes, and see hades appoint you their next spokesperson.

-Lord

Guy go and drink your ogogoro in peace biko!

LordAdam:
Guy, just stop typing. You have no shame at all.

Neglection of two regions versus neglection of a state, and you say a state is worse. Allah help your life!

First, you accept that we have savings, you also accept that we still receive revenue and you are complaining that it is too small. This is a huge display of incompetence. And you have no shame to state so.

Now, you want to compare 2008 when the global economy crashed (Greece and most of EU has not still recovered in 7+ years) plus oil price fall to now when there is only oil price fall...

Egbon obailala, come and receive brain. Your skull is empty.

Not insulting you, just stating facts.

PMB is incompetent. In fact look at the health sector. Lassa fever versus Ebola.

Allah forgive APC and punish you zombies and North Nigeria and SW for voting in a failure who did not go to school.

GEJ is better than PMB. Take it or leave it.

-Lord

Do you even have a brain at all sef?... What kind of human being is this? ... or is this that time of the day when you smoke your brains away?.. If with all what I just pointed out last to you, this is the only response you can come up with, then I probably have been wasting my time talking to a drunk. Good day.

mekaboy:
First of all GEJ did not sack bath nnaji. Bath nnamdi cannot be part of those who will oversee the biding process when he has interest in acquiring a license.

You compare obasanjo govt to that of GEJ as if Nigerians population and infrastructure needs were the same in both times.

You saw nothing good in his administration. U did not mention improvement in education and additional federal universities.

How much did Nigeria safe from rice importation under Gej . What about the e - wallet that revived agricultur and made fertiliser accessible to farmers?

The price of food was reduced under GEJ.

Talking about debt how much the states borrow including Lagos? Even though lagos govt was a political enemy to Gej, he approved their loan request.

Amechi also borrowed and His state got more allocation from other states. You don't expect the federal govt to be breastfeeding rivers after the huge allocation.

You also overlooked the security challenged Gej faced and still managed to grow the economy. .

By the time Gej was leaving we were already supporting the forex market from reserves.

The collapse of economy when Gej handed over was as a result of lack of investors confidence in the buhari administration. Investors had to gradually pull out their funds while waiting for Nigeria 's economic policy direction, till today there is none. The govt kept wasting time in appointment claiming they were looking for the best only to select those we already know and yet no clear economic direction.

Jp Morgan delisted Nigeria and investors had to pull their funds out. CBN restrictions in forex complicated issues more. The CBN governor trying every magic he knows to ensure the economy does not collapse as there is no clear cut direction. No policies to boost investors confidence. Lack of foriegn investment. The CBN governor is like a goal keeper alone in the post with the opponent firing shots at him without any support from his team mates.

You can see where the impact of the agricultural projects of GEJ got the agricultural minister.

If Nigeria had agreed to removal of subsidy under Gej we would have saved more. If Nigerian governors did not share the funds there would have been enough savings.

I do not need to remind Nigerians how well manufacturing fared under Gej, but what is happening today.

Take a look at the inflation rate and unemployment rate since Gej handed over and tell me who did better.

Nigeria is suffering today as a result of decisions taken by governors led by amechi today.

GEJ's government had a holistic approach to national issues. There was synchronised movement of all sectors.

Today, buhari led administration has abandoned every other area to fight corruption and economic growth continues to decline.

The difference between GEJ's administration and that of PMB is policies. Gej had/has better policies than PMB. All PMB and APC has today is promises. A nation is not run based promises but policies.

I also forgot to add biometric verification of civil servants and a vibrant Pension scheme that saved Nigeria billions of naira.

Do a little research on how much was saved from food import under Gej and add it to how much was saved from ghost workers and let us know how much it is.

It is what state governors do that directly affect the citizens not just federal.

I know and pray that things will get better under PMB, but judging by their actions in the past 8 months they appear confused and score very low.

I am tired of hearing this continuous empty talk about how GEJ's wonderful economic policies turned Nigeria to heaven and then Buhari came in and reversed everything. Even an infant knows that when there is high inflow of forex (oil money), the economy flourishes, but as soon as the inflow of forex stops, the economy shrinks (except there was savings).

Meanwhile with all the wonderful and economic policies of GEJ and his adept team, can you kindly tell me what happened to Nigeria's economy between November 2014 and May 2015?... Even with the so called wonderful economic team and policies, Nigeria's economy turned around on its head as soon as the oil price crash kicked in; the Naira value fell from around N170 to N220, the GDP growth rate crashed from the highs of 6-7% to about 2.3% (its lowest in over a decade), even the FG had to borrow money to pay common salaries to FG workers even though at this period oil prices were still over $60/barrel as compared to $32/barrel which it is today.

But now, GEJ supporters like yourself have conveniently overlooked all this and hung the entire blame on Buhari's head for the nosedive in our economy?... How treacherous! You claim Buhari does not have an economic policy and that is why things are bad. Obviously in your fantasy world, you expect Buhari to conjure magicians and prophets from heaven to come and manage an economy which currently has no money; probably you want these angel economists to pluck forex reserves from trees to balance the economy. You obviously did not see anything wrong in a nation not saving for the rainy day, but now the rainy day has come, you expect voodoo economists to come and manufacture money to cushion the effect or a recession?

Now let met put it straight in a nutshell, contrary to what any voodoo economist tells you, there is absolutely nothing that can be done on the short term to bring Nigeria out of its current recession except we resort to massive borrowing or recovery of looted funds. There is no amount of economic policy that can make an economy which has no money to be instantly buoyant. Whatever it is that can be done by even the best economists, the positive effects will take a reasonable time to manifest. If this oil prices doesn't rise soon, things will only get worse.

And finally, it is meaningless to compare the performance of Jonathan who ruled in time of plenty, to a Buhari who has only held sway for less than a year in a time of deep recession. If you must compare both leaders, then compare with Jonathan's performance in handling the economy between October/November 2014 and May 2015 and you will be shocked at what a failure he was. I rest my case!

LordAdam:
Please tell me, which between GEJ and PMB statement is worst. Be honest?

Both statements are unfortunate. But if you want to be honest about which is more callous, it is common sense. GEJ boasted to punish his own followers because the governor of their state, just one (1) man was against him. He boasted that they should not expect a single federal project. Now compare that to PMB who stated that areas which didn't give him much support shouldn't expect 'equal' treatment with areas which gave him overwhelming support. Both statements are unfortunate and I would have loved to leave it at that, but since you chose to quantify which is more unfortunate, even an infant can tell how lowly and diabolic the statement of GEJ was. Besides, unlike PMB who only spoke, GEJ actually made good his threat.

SS states receive 13% derivation, have a Ministry, have NDDC and state PADECs.
SE states are complaining about projects.

Unless for some reason, you believe in one year PH would have received FG projects that would have made the state become Dubai, you have no case. Rivers state received all that was entitled them in the 1 year that GEJ and Amaechi had their beef. Amaechi should explain what he has been using the money the state has been receiving for and the huge loans. Was he the only one that had crosses with GEJ? Look at Lagos state.

What on earth are you yapping about?... even an infant knows the difference between statutory federal allocations and federal government projects. Every state receives its statutory allocations and that has always been the case since 1960 till date irrespective of president. We are referring here to federal government projects and not federal allocations. The statement of GEJ in that regard was totally indefensible!

[s]Wow, I have had this wrong notion for a while that I was communicating with an intelligent fellow. Now, I know that is not the case.[/s]

Answer these questions?

A. Does Nigeria has $0 reserve or a $29b reserve right now?
B. Does Nigeria export 0 barrels of crude oil or circa 2m barrels of crude oil daily right now?
C. If yes to question B, are we getting paid or not?

In your bid to introduce insults, you are unknowingly exposing your own unintelligence. I do not believe I am arguing with a 5 year old pupil so I did not think I needed to spell out everything for you in the kindergarten style for you to understand. I'm sure you are a smart adult but you are now obviously trying to play dumb because you lack what to say.

[A] For a nation of over 170 million people which imports most of its essential needs, a foreign reserve of $29billion is a dangerously low figure. That's the reason why CBN is desperately guarding the meagre reserves. When you were a teenager, a savings of N20,000 may have passed you as a rich boy, but your dad having N50,000 as total savings with a family of 6 to cater for, that is a dangerously low figure.

[B] The income of a nation reduces by over 60% and you dare to act like you do not know the implications of that?... I do not know whether you have a job, but assuming you do and your employer suddenly cuts over 60% of your income, would it be sensible for any human to expect your standard of living to remain the same?... So much for Mr. Intelligence.

Now, let me make you look stupid.

In 2008, we had a world financial crisis and huge oil price fall. The Nigerian economy shrunk as a result, but because of the action of an adept FG economic team and astuteness of their policies, we did not fall into a recession. We rebounded

In 2015/2016, we only have a huge oil price fall. The Nigerian economy shrunk as a result, but because of the inaction and aloofness of the FG economic team, we are falling into the worse recession since the 80s.

Need I say more?
-Lord

You absolutely need not say more because you will only expose your gross ignorance more and more.

In July 2008, global oil prices peaked at $147 (the highest ever) and do you know what reasonable leaders do when that happens?... THEY SAVE!
In just over a year of Yaradua's administration, Nigeria had grown its foreign exchange reserve from about $42bn to $62bn. However, an oil price crash similar to the one we suffer now happened and global crude prices plunged from $147 to about $40/barrel. The only reason why Nigeria survived that crises in 2008 was because we had savings; it cost Nigeria about $20billion within a year to cushion the effect of the 2008 oil price crash. We did not survive because of any "adept FG economic team or astute policies" like you ignorantly allude, Nigeria survived because we had leaders then who knew the importance of saving for the rainy day. Today, Nigeria is grappling with the devastating effect of a volatile oil price all because we had a leader who didn't think it was necessary to save a dime and here we have someone who brags about his intelligent trying to justify and glorify such reckless and retrogressive style of leadership. God forbid!

http://www.edinburghjournalisminternational.com/business-finance/why-nigeria-largely-escaped-the-global-financial-crisis.html

Maybe he was pressed.. That inevitable call of nature can sometimes come even at the wrongest moments

*Runs away from thread**

LordAdam:
Are you going to compare one's marginalization against two regions for one full tenure with one's marginalization against one state in less than one year? Are you also going to blame GEJ for the monorail project that Amaechi did not complete after spending billions of naira.

Are you saying in the few months leading up to the election, Amaechi did not receive federal allocation from the government? Are you high on some cheap drug?

Buhari made only a 'statement' and you have crucified and buried him. Yet you want to completely exonerate GEJ who not only made a statement but also made good his threat by not bringing FG development to Rivers state?... you claim GEJ did it for only one year and for one state so therefore it no biggie?... Chaii!.. This must be dried paw-paw leaves at work.

Oh... You claim Amaechi received federal allocation so therefore the Rivers people had nothing to complain about?... is it federal allocation we are talking about here?.... Please tell me one single 5% state that has not received federal allocation since Buhari took over?... In fact kindly tell me one single SE or SS state that has not received federal allocation since the beginning of Nigeria in 1960?... What exactly is even the marginalisation that the SE and SS are complaining about since you have chosen to equate federal presence with 'routine federal allocation'?.... You really need to stop smoking those dried leaves for your own good

More than 40% of the ECA reserves was shared by states, the same states could not pay their workers and now need the federal government to bail them out, and yet you do not blame the governors but the ex-president. Which federal government civil servant is been owed 13 months salary? Why are you blaming the incompetence of the state governors on the ex-president?

Never did I blame the FG for the recklessness of the state governors. I only asked a simple question, what did the FG do with the larger chunk (60%) of the ECA funds which was it's share?.... Are you trying to now blame state governors for the inability of the FG to save anything from its own mega share of the funds?

*So, you think it is fair to contribute the fall in oil prices to the slowdown in the economy under PMB but not GEJ. Most major economies including China, Russia, Norway, Canada suffered a slow down in growth. Are you trying to imply that GEJ should have performed magic. If so, why has PMB not performed the magic and moved us from 3% back to 7%? Stop speaking from both sides of your mouth, it is disgusting.
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Can you reason logically? [size=13pt]When the money was flowing in in bulk, our economy blossomed, now that it has stopped flowing, the economy has shrunk. Is that so hard to understand? Even a pre-schooler will understand this.[/size]
-Lord

Gbam!... You have said it all, there is basically nothing left for me to say; you have just made life easy for me with these your statements I didn't know you were even this smart all these while so why on earth have you been stressing me?

If you actually know that an economy blossoms when money flows, and shrinks when money stops flowing, so why have you been directly comparing Buhari's handling of the economy (in recession) to GEJ's handling of the economy when there was obviously plenty?... Do you honestly think that's a fair comparison?... You even acknowledge that the economy also shrunk rapidly under GEJ when oil prices started falling, so why on earth are you crucifying PMB when you actually know the reason behind the current shrink?

PMB is a slow, senile, illiterate cow rearer that has packed a bunch of visionless wannabes that think government is a game of passing blames. We have income and we have savings (don't be sentimental), what is killing our economy is his inaction....

You are obviously a very amusing and confused fellow; kindly compare this your statement with the statements you just made above. You previously acknowledged the global oil prices crash and its attendant effect on Nigeria's income and economy; a problem which affected the later end of GEJ's administration and which is still affecting PMB's administration. Now after acknowledging this obvious problem which even a pre-schooler understands, you have turned around to now claim that we have income and we have savings and that the problem is PMB's inaction? Could this irrational flip be the effect of those paw-paw leaves?

Wizprodigy:
N3trill...ion! God you really make me laugh. You have a yearly budget of about N4.07trillion and you spend 2/3 of it on arms, are you well so? When did jona spend that amount. Please use real stats not some bigoted formed stats okay. Did boko haram tell you they don't have sponsors? Have you ever buy fuel from the black market at a cheap price talk more of buying arms? It seems you don't know what you are talking about

I didn't even see this response earlier.

All these while I even thought I was arguing with someone who was at least a little bit informed. I Never knew I was arguing with someone who had absolutely no idea what the thread he's responding to is talking about. It's a shame!

A little extract from the main post FYI...

Entire Defence Budget of GEJ's Era Should Be probed...
With the revelation coming from the #DasukiGate, it appears that more is yet to be heard about the corruption practices that went unabated in the defence sector under the administration of Dr Goodluck Ebele Jonathan. In Yar'adua's era, the highest Nigeria spent on Defence budget was N444.6 billion in 2008; That was the peak of militancy in the Niger Delta. His 2009 and 2010 defence budgets were N233billion and N264billion respectively. As President, Dr Jonathan's first defence budget shoot to N348billion in 2011. From 2012, the defence budget sky-rocketed by 300% to N922 billion(approx N1trillion). It was increased to N1.055 trillion in 2013 and N1.17trillion in 2014. Coincidentally, the periods of "trillion" budget were all presided by Colonel Sambo Dasuki as National Security Adviser.

The total budget under GEJ from 2011 to 2014 of ~N3.5trillion is what this thread was talking about; you could confirm the figures with a simple google search. Learn to educate yourself and establish what a discussion is all about before you step in with funny arguments.

RickyTan:
What is your problems now? You and I were having a good discussion as to what divides us and Why. We were airing out the arguments and counter argument then all of a sudden you flip. Ambode is a public figure, a politician and attack on him or his policies is FAIR game. It is NOT necessarily an attack on Yoruba people. DONT CONFUSE the two.

I am a business man myself and I understand business and economics. When you destroy peoples goods it is a DIRECT hit on their bottom line. In Nigeria we dont ( or hardly have insurance) so those goods are lost. Some people owe on those goods. SO now you have let them destitute and debtors too.

You are an intelligent person - at least from from your post I can see that. Yoruba and Igbo are badly hurting themselves and that road is a DEAD END. I myself supported Buhari because I felt that Jonathan was WEAK and ineffective leader. GO research my posts here on NL from during the election if you doubt me.

SO attacking the governor is NOT attacking Yoruba. I hate that he has impoverished all the OSHODI traders whom happen to ne majority IGBO.

Learn to stop tribalising every single issue, that's the simple message I've been trying to pass all along.

Which kind of rotten soup/sauce is this?... What concerns presidency budget with cars for legislators?

This is very good news. I hope this new policy will be strengthened with all necessary legislative and constitutional backing. State would no longer have any excuses for being parasitic.

Derawiz:
Buari,pls probe Amaechi first,how can you leave a criminal in pursuit of another

You not the president of Nigeria, you are not a senator of the federal republic, but you want to dictate to these people how they should prioritise their jobs?

phadriz:
This government misplace priority a lot, why can't they fix the economy problems first by having good economic policy.

I always laugh when I read this recurring statement about 'economic policy' and 'economic blueprint.' The fact of this matter is that the bulk of Nigeria's foreign exchange comes from oil and oil prices have fallen by over 70%. There is no amount of economic policy from even the greatest economic experts in the world that can automatically save Nigeria from the inherent economic doom within the short term. In essence, there is nothing Nigeria can do to turn its fortunes around in the short term except the global oil prices turn around.

In a situation like this, it is not out of place for Nigeria to desperately try to recover recoverable looted funds at least to survive within the short term while we wait for any economic policy to mature. Just like a labourer who loses his source of income and then plants a vineyard, one thing he can do to survive while the vineyard grows is to try and recover funds from his debtors. Already N360 billion has been included in the 2016 budget as 'recovered looted/misappropriated funds.' You don't expect such moneys to be ignored while the nation dies of hunger do you?

EbukaFran:
No mind IPOB youths jare

The whole of the SS is shocked at the level at which Jonathan allowed corruption to fester in the country- unprecedented in the history of the nation. Now, it is Tompolo's people that are snitching on him and providing evidence for his prosecution.

Guess which part of Nigeria is against the anti-corruption crusade?

IPOB Youths!

The free money from government contracts has stopped and they are very bitter. They will do and say anything on the internet to demonize this government and its anti-corruption efforts

IPOB youths are just wasting their time. The majority of Nigerians support the anti-corruption drive

On the bolded part of your message, contrary to your insinuation that these guys received free government money, the most ironic, shameful and bizarre truth is that a majority of these people did not actually receive a dime from anyone. Their actions, responses and overall stance is purely driven by an irrational emotional attachment to GEJ. The minds of these guys have been so messed up that once they hear the word 'corruption,' their mind goes to GEJ, and whenever they hear anyone wants to fight corruption or anyone (irrespective of tribe) is being investigated for corruption, their minds automatically interpret it as an attack on their beloved GEJ and his legacy.

It's a really bizarre situation we find ourselves in right now, it's really wonderful how the human mind works.

RickyTan:
Notice at the very beginning of our conversation today that I told you SOME Yoruba people. Not ALL. I gave you examples of some of the Leaders actions that are dividing us. E.g. Ambode destroying Igbo investments under whatever guise he claims is a very negative action indeed. Big Loss of capital for Igbos.

Ambode should strive to be SEEN as a leader for ALL.

When we point these things out, SOME Yorubas call us foreigners in our own country.

I give up on you... Okay, Ambode demolished the market purely to punish Igbos because he hates Igbos. In fact his hatred for Igbos was amplified when Igbos failed to vote for him. Ambode will even do anything humanly possible to punish and punish the Igbos until he completely cripples every Igbo business and sends Igbos out of Lagos. Ambode is a terrible diabolic Yoruba man whose hatred for Igbos transcends human understanding and he will never rest until he sees Igbos completely annihilated.

Obviously the above narrative is the sort of story you just want to hear over and over again. It is sweet melody to your soul, nothing else gives more pleasure to your heart and it even gives you intense orgasms. There you go with the exact thing you want to hear.. Good night!

RickyTan:
I too think it is madness. Stupid. But like I said thank your OBA and his agents for starting it

And you hold on tightly to the words of one probably drunk ex-policeman as a very reasonable justification to sustain a tribal feud against an entire tribe?... and you claim you know the negative effect of this feud?... very interesting!

RickyTan:
Delusion because you say so?
Okay.

I will leave you with two things
1- Be proud of who you are
2- I agree with you that Igbo and Yoruba are hurting themselves- meaning the Northerners WIN.

Oh so you even know Igbos and Yorubas are hurting themselves with this madness even while the north enjoys the spoils?... Interesting!

I had no idea some of you who fuel this needless tribal feud are actually aware of this fact. Wow!

RickyTan:
If you are Igbo then I am Kanuri.
YOU ARE A YORUBA PERSON.

Rest of Nigeria is NOT attacking Igbo
We know who is attacking Igbo - albeit recently with malice in rhetoric and actions to boot
Leave others alone - they do not bother Igbo.

Lol... okay continue in your beautiful delusion, and maaybe in 10 years I would be glad to know where it has advanced you to. Goodluck!

RickyTan:
At least your post is reasoned not the senseless insults some throw around here. My suggestions is that you ask your leaders such as Ambode and the Deji that SPECIALIZE in assaulting Igbos and creating tribal hate between Igbo and Yoruba? FYI Ambode is a very weak leader and he is likely just carrying out the OBA's instructions - destroying Igbos investments and economic interests.

You seem not to have gotten my simple point. Firstly I am not Yoruba, and yes I am from the SE; but I happen to be one of those who don't believe in the age long propaganda that the rest of Nigeria is just out to do nothing but hunt Igbos. I believe every other tribe is simply hustling for their collective daily bread and Igbos should be doing same instead of always lamenting and accusing every one else of witch-hunting. In summary, I fall into the category of Igbos fondly labelled as 'efulefu' because I dare to see and reason things differently from the crowd.

And regarding Ambode, there is hardly any state in Nigeria where governments dont demolish market stalls of innocent masses, It happened in warri, it happened in kaduna, abuja, portharcourt, owerri, benin, onitsha etc. and the stories have always been similar with the government not giving enough time for traders to move out their goods. My worry however is the way in which Igbos of recent have always quickly labelled every single problem of such nature as a pre-determined tribal assault specifically targeted against Igbos. This continued paranoid stance only has one effect, it will force more Igbos to hate other tribes especially their hosts wherever they go and this hate will consequently lead to the hosts hating Igbos in return. In a nutshell, this continued paranoia is not healthy for the welfare of Igbos or anyone at all.

Now your mind is already 100% made up that Oshodi market was demolished by Ambode purely because Ambode hates Igbos. This is the exact precedence I am talking about, it is a very unhealthy mindset which will neither help you nor the general Igbo society across Nigeria. But unfortunately, many Igbos have already been caught by this bug.

Some governors have been making the news for the right reasons with world class economy changing projects while some others have been busy cutting kpomo and buying fresh fish by the roadside. And strangely, their supporters seem to prefer the kpomo cutting dude.

Nothing we no go hear for this naija... memories!

VintageCocktail:
Does it mean these are the best you people will come up with?
I have been an ardent follower of nairaland for years and what always shocks me is the glaring fact that dayokanu is yet to grow up. And about the supposed " above 35 tribal warlords who eat and breathe bigotry on nairaland". keep it up.

"He who brings home ant infested firewood should not be surprised when lizards begin to gather." - Chinua Achebe

I'm sure you know the exact reason behind my sarcastic comment.

Obiano certainly hates Igbos, God will deal with him for this.

...Rufai may not be a bad president, but there would be an unavoidable and impossible to ignore public outcry over one hausa-fulani handing over to another hausa-fulani president. And t :Dhat is when Nigeria will eventually split

RickyTan:
FYI honey - That SOME Yoruba people like yourself or Ambode or your OBA or Dr Arriyo in Texas (not all Yoruba ofcourse, but some) hate Igbo people is Not Everyone else hating Igbo. For example - Igbos live next to Idoma people - no Problems there. They intermarry and trade.

FYI - Igbos like every other Nigerian groups have every right to be in Lagos - the former federal capital. Igbos are there in Lagos and have BOUGHT property (meaning the own) and made investments there worth billions.

LASTLY - If any Yoruba person chooses to please go and make Investments in the EAST - it is also your right. No one is stopping you.

Firstly, not everyone that doesn't agree with the general widespread story that Igbos are being oppressed by the rest of Nigeria is a Yoruba person, there are over 250 ethnic groups in Nigeria and there are also some Igbos too who don't agree with this age long propaganda.

Secondly, Nigeria is a country greatly divided along the ethnic lines, there is basically no tribe that doesn't hate or mistrust the other. Yorubas hate /mistrust Igbos and likewise, Igbos hate and mistrust Yorubas. But something that cannot be disputed is the fact that somehow, these 2 tribes have managed to co-exist peacefully in Lagos and other areas of the SW for a long time. Besides in the volatile north, there is basically nowhere in Nigeria where Igbos are not living peacefully and prospering. So my problem is, why do we want to deliberately break this peace?

Since the elections of 2015, some groups have continued to fuel and escalate this tribal hatred, a lot of Igbos like yourself have obviously fallen victim of this treachery. I do not know what some of you hope to achieve if Yorubas and Igbos eventually fail to see eye to eye. Every single thing is now painted as ‘a deliberate assault on Igbos’ and this further forces more neutral Igbos to hate Yorubas. I wonder what you hope to achieve with this.

Now you accuse Ambode of hating Igbos and deliberately destroying their markets exclusively to punish Igbos. No doubt, the government was wicked and irresponsible by not letting enough time for traders to move their things, but I wonder where you have arrived at your conclusion from that this was done because Ambode hates Igbos and wanted to punish Igbos. This is not the first time we heard of such accusation, the last time it was that 'Fashola hates and deports Igbos,' even though the same Fashola also deported Yorubas to some SW states too. Once again I ask, do you honestly think such a paranoid mindset (which can only fuel tribal hate), do you honestly think this mindset would be beneficial to anyone?.. If you honestly think it is beneficial, or it will be beneficial, then continue.

VintageCocktail:
And jerk off while you are at it, it cools the irritations and all Whatnots.

Lol... I don't think I need to go that far, I got my woman and my bottle of odeku to calm my nerves.