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Lol.. I remember a soldier I met once whose name was Selbol Vongkong. I knew instantly he was from the Plateau.

This MURIC prof seems to be suffering from chronic dementia ...

majamajic:
But the pics u see was more than kante to daddy freeze , still u continue to defend it , go see the pics again

I got some experience in picture effects, and based on my knowledge and experience, I know better than to believe and/or draw conclusions from just 2 picture samples presented to me. You may be seeing 'Kante to Freeze', but that's not what I see; we both just have different points of view.... It's okay if you dont understand what I'm saying; you're not meant to know everything, I dont know it all either. Good morning.

If your father is bi-racial or half-caste (forgive my politically inappropriate slur), then you are quarter caste (forgive my slur once again).

Westtimeline:
So in your wap reasoning, they are darker than they are now when they were poor and hustling. Give me reason why kante, drogba, zouma, pogba are still dark despite taking money.

You are just one of the inferior people we talk about.

This is kante as a young black guy and now. Where is the bleach

Inferior? I'm inferior because I gave you basic level info? Anyway I didn't expect everyone to understand what I said cos not all fingers (or brains) are equal.

Spending much time under the scorching sun has the capacity to darken your skin; even white people who relocate to hotter/sunnier climates end up getting darker (tanned).... Likewise, people who relocate from Africa to colder climates quite often get their skin tone lightened a bit, and this is cos they get less exposure to the high intensity sunlight back home... When I said money / less exposure to the sun can get a person's skin lighter, i didnt mean turning a Kante to a Daddy Freeze complexion (I honestly didnt think I needed break this down to this elementary level cos I assumed I was talking to an adult with basic comprehension skills at least) .

The logic behind people saying that 'money' or 'wealth' lightens your skin is that it is typical for richer people to spend less time under the scorching sun unlike struggling people on the street. Everything isnt literal my friend; when we say money has the capacity to make a person fairer, it isn't magic, there's a very simple science behind it, and it has nothing to do with rubbing bleaching creams.

You mentioned Kante, but you should know there will always be exceptions to every law. Whilst Kante may be an exception because he's got a unique skin tone, are you aware that his skin may actually even get darker if he lived on the street in Sudan or Sokoto?

majamajic:
Just like bobrisky old and new pics , it's same . U can never go from black to white . Money can only light u up a bit , not to change it . Unless u bleached the skin in whichever way

Okay i'm glad you now agree money has the capacity to lighten a person's skin a bit. Nobody here ever said money can turn a Kante to a Daddy Freeze.

Etinosa1234:
So why is kante, Pogba, Zouma still Black...any reasonable explanation?

First of all, when I say a cooler, less sunny climate can get a dark person's skin lighter, I did not say a black skin would automatically become caucasian white/yellow skin; my English cant be that difficult to comprehend....

Secondly, in every law, there can always exceptions; so yeah, kante, Pogba, Zouma may be exceptions because they have peculiar skin tones. But then again, how are you so sure kante, Pogba and/or Zouma wouldn't have even darker skins if they were poor and living somewhere hot and sunny in Sudan?

majamajic:
They are all still dark skin , or e get another color wey dark pass black ?

Lol... so you never see black wen pass black?

majamajic:
I know him personally , he bleached

In 2017 , I use to see him closely around iju road , money can tone up your complexion but not to change it definitely , same as weather

They both can't change u from black man to a white man, or vis versa

Well, if you claim you know him personally and see him often, then that's fine, I believe you. But if it were just these pictures on this thread alone, I would have said they weren't enough to judge anything.

Westtimeline:
He must be richer than Akon, pdiddy, Mayweather, and Dangote

Show us a picture of Dangote, P.Diddy, Mayweather and Dangote when they were poorer and suffering under the sun. If you can't produce these pictures for a reasonable comparison, then your examples holds no logic.

majamajic:
So as adult u are , looking at both pics , this is all u have to say ?

Means u can't differentiate normal rainfall from poured out water from a bucket , talk more of u to differentiate toned skin from weather and bleached skin

Try to be observing things like adult

2 pictures of a person are taken at different times, in different lighting conditions and with different cameras (with different qualities); So your brilliant definition of an adult is someone who sees just these 2 pictures and instantly concludes that bleaching has occurred?

It's a pity you don't understand the point I tried to make. I'll repeat it for you and maybe one day when you hopefully grow up in wisdom, you will comprehend it - the 2 pictures posted on this thread are insufficient for me to conclude whether the person in the said picture has changed complexion; I need to see more pictures to make that conclusion. Thanks..

majamajic:
So in your village no dark millionaire ?

The dark millionaires in my village would most probably look darker if they were poor and suffering daily under the scorching sun; that is my point.

majamajic:
The guy bleached , I knew him till 2017 at least , he was not quarter this fair

Well, I dont know small doctor personally so I cant make any confident claims on his case; I also cant conclude anything from the pictures on this thread until I see some more recent pictures (and even older younger) pictures of him for comparison...

But what I said earlier is still a proven fact, the weather and the sun intensity a person is exposed to on a regular basis can affect skin complexion and even skin texture.... a white man relocates to a hotter, sunnier climate, he tends to become tanned / darker. Likewise a black person relocates to a cooler climate with lower sun intensity, he tends to get lighter. The reason why money/riches is loosely considered a 'skin lightening' agent is because it is assumed that a rich person in Nigeria spends less time under the scorching sun.

udemzyudex:
compare dto what small doctor have turned to? naaa this one is different.

Small doctor's own looks extreme though (this one pass money or weather matter), but like I said in one of my previous posts, the 2 pictures posted on this thread aren't really sufficient to conclude that his skin colour has even changed. The older picture was obviously taken with a poor camera and in poor lighting condition, the newer picture looks edited and with high light intensity. We need to see more of his recent pictures to conclude if his skin has truly changed colour.

Unified07:
TRASH

Knowledge isn't for everyone.

KanuSE:
Has Dangote's skin colour changed?

How exactly can you tell if his skin colour has changed or not? Do you have an old picture of him when he was a poor man suffering under the scorching heat of the sun? If you cant provide an old picture for comparison, then this Dangote example isn't valid.

By the way, not everyone's skin would change; there will always be exceptions to every rule.

airsaylongcome:
So all those Caucasian that spend hours under the sun in summer they get black yeah? Like 5 shades different? Cos the difference between the before and after here is extreme.

And before you talk about money will change your skin please have a look at Aliko Dangote

Yes when Caucasians relocate to hotter climates like in Africa, they become tanned, they become darker. Even in summer when they just spend few hours under the sun, they get darker.

Likewise when Nigerians relocate abroad, they typically get a shade lighter (I am a personal example; I dont even cream my body at all). Whenever I visit Nigeria for 2-3 weeks and return to my base, I get darker.

Have a look at Dangote? What am I comparing him with? Maybe if you can show me a picture of when he was poorer and suffering under the heat and sun, then your suggested comparison would be valid.

udemzyudex:
Lol.. you have nothing reasonable to say.

Prolonged exposure to sunlight, heat and/or hardship can darken a person's skin. That is a fact!

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggarrrr
Too bad

I see bleaching niggarrrz as pussy asss niggarrrz


That is not true Ogbeni
When you stopped staying under the sun as you suggest ...your skin will retain its natural colour, texture and appearance..and you will start glowing

There's some truth in that. The sun and heat in Nigeria darkens your skin; I've seen this in numerous people who relocated overseas.

Regarding the topic, there isnt enough evidence from those pictures to conclude his skin colour has even changed over time. The old picture was obviously taken with a poor quality camera and in bad lighting condition; the newer picture looks edited and with high light intensity.

Raph3177:
Don’t forget the raw material (crude oil) is actually produced in Nigeria like our natural resources so for me it has spoilt your explanations above I chose not to reason With it Cos I don’t see sense in it. Other nations that don’t have oil as natural resources are selling petroleum at far cheaper price to its citizen. To me if the price of petroleum is going up Nigeria should be making more money and if it is refined abroad then cost of the raw material which we produce should count for something.

In my previous comment, I tried to give a very basic explanation, but since you mentioned the above, maybe I'd try and give some insight 'the way I understand it'...

Current global price/value of crude is about $55/bbl; even though the crude is produced in Nigeria, it doesn't change the fact that the crude is still valued at $55/bbl and is still sold at $55/bbl. Nigeria currently runs a 'Direct Sale-Direct Purchase (DSDP)' crude swap deal which basically means, NNPC sells crude to a foreign refinery and then buys refined products back from the said refinery; the crude is still valued at the prevailing global price, irrespective of the fact that it is Nigerian crude.

One might then wonder why NNPC doesnt just exchange the crude at a reduced rate of say $40/bbl instead of the prevailing global price of $55 so that the imports would be cheaper; after all it's Nigerian crude. But then, that $15/bbl loss would effectively amount to a form of petrol subsidy, i.e. the govt subsidising the sale of crude oil to a foreign refinery so they can in turn sell cheaper fuel to Nigeria. Just recently, a similar form of subsidising was termed 'under-recovery' by the NNPC. I may be wrong somewhere in my explanation, but maybe a petroleum economist can help out.

...and lest i forget, there's an assertion which you made which is wrong; there's absolutely no 'non-oil producing nation' which sells fuel cheaper than Nigeria. In global comparison, I doubt if there're up to 5 countries which sell petroleum products cheaper than Nigeria, and they're all oil producing nations which subsidise the products.

I think I agree with this... In my opinion, it amounts to 'bullying' for those social media platforms to 'permanently' suspend Trump.

Okoroawusa:
You go school. Simple explanation that even a lay man can understand. You must be a teacher.

I swear the matter dey tire me whenever I read comments from people asking 'why pump price is increasing'. Someone on this thread even asked why pump price should be increasing after govt claims to have deregulated and stopped subsidy payments. When you read those kind of comments, it just gives you an idea why Nigeria is the way it is.

When I open threads like this, I expect discussions to be centred on what the best solutions to the current problem is or should be; but instead, the threads are always filled with people who dont even have a slight understanding of what the issue, throwing insults at each other and at govt.

The govt itself is to be blamed though, instead of employing sound minds to handle media and publicity to educate the public on simple things like this, they keep appointing imbeciles and degenerates whose only past time is to attack and insult even genuinely concerned Nigerians who ask questions online.

Raph3177:
What I will never find sense with is why the increase of crude oil price equals to increment of Petrol pump price for Nigerians. This only means if crude oil price gets back to around 100 dollar per barrel Nigerians will be paying up to 250 naira per liter I can never find sense with this even if the world most brilliant person comes to explain to me.

The logic behind the pump price increase is quite simple and straightforward. The only reason anyone (at least educated) wouldnt understand it is because they intentionally refuse to understand it.

Nigeria buys its petroleum products from overseas with dollar$ and 2 things mainly determine the cost of that product in Nigeria - crude price and exchange rate. If crude (raw material) price increases, the cost at which the foreign sellers sell it to us will increase, and that would mean an increase in the final selling cost to Nigerians. Likewise, if exchange rate increases (i.e. Naira devalue drops), even if crude price in dollar$ remains the same, the increase in official exchange rate means an increase in final pump price of the products on the street. So yes, with exchange rate currently at over N400/$, if crude price jumps to $100, pump price may hit up to N250.

In the last few months, the exchange rate has increased (because of the lack of forex caused by covid palaver) and in the last few weeks, global crude prices has also increased. What that translates to is an inherent increase in pump price. The fact that an increase in pump prices hasn't been announced yet means that the govt is still bearing the price difference occasioned by the recent increase in crude price (in otherwords, govt is subsidising).

ceaser:
I sincerely hope the Chines will not give them money again, at least for now. Not until things are looking up for the government economy-wise. Or till when they decide to cut loose their excesses and overbloated emoluments - both the legislature and the executives I mean.

If not, what they'll do is collect the money, construct a sunatandard rail to Niger republic, swallow the remaining dollars and hoard them against 2023 elections.

China does not give cash loans; it's strange that a lot of people commenting here arent aware of this...

China builds the infrastructure and you pay them back with cash, so how exactly do the politicians get hold of the loan money to steal if china doesnt give cash?...

Chinese loans are the safest loans past and present Nigerian governments have taken cos we get to actually see the completed infrastructure; our filthy politicians cant steal the money.

sulaak:
The Calabar to Lagos is not a priority. We can use shipping and road to move goods between the East and West.

Lagos -Ibadan - Kano
Port Harcourt - Enugu- Maiduguri

Why exactly do you think it's okay to move things between east-west by road, but it's not okay to move things between north-south by road?

realstars:
I Dont Overstand It, When Blame Game Was The Firs Tearm Agender, Then The 2nd Tearm Is Next Level Of Insecurity,?

I'm not sure I understand what you've written here; maybe you might want to check autocorrect function in your phone. What's the connection between "level of insecurity" and what I wrote earlier?

Also, whats the link between 'blame game' and what I said earlier? Someone said ApC wants to sell Nigeria to China; I pointed out a flaw in that statement being that more than half of the money Nigeria currently owes China today was borrowed under PDP, so it doesnt exactly make sense politicising the issue along apc vs pdp lines cos both are guilty.. Is that what you call blame game?

2mercy:
https://www.herald.ng/kaduna-farmer-arrested-for-feeding-herdsmans-cattle-poisoned-cassava/

A thief walks into my house, steals and eats my food.

Thief dies later cos the food was poisoned and now, the Nigerian authorities arrest me for poisoning the food which the thief stole and ate?

Imbeciles in power!

realstars:
Do I Hear You Well?

Yes very well.

chiemmanuel:
the only winner here is China

Nigeria desperately needs the infrastructure and will be a major winner if our leaders manage the infrastructure properly.

realstars:
so dem no give the money again? or dem no rich agreement, or we the masses no gree, or una don loot the money?

Obasenjo (PDP) Paid all dept that Nigeria owe'.

Yaradua (PDP) sustain the growth.

Goodluck (PDP) Sustain And grow the economy, and make Nigeria nxmber one in Africa.

Buhari (APC) borrows trillions from china and only service it once, then pushed it to the next level.

Now Who will pay all this Dept,?

More than half of Nigeria's current debt owed to China was borrowed under PDP.

GamalNasser:
You can't borrow someone's money without the persons permission , doing this is outright armed robbery...Dormant account is a faux there is nothing like that ..No account can be said to be abandoned when all accounts have Next of Kin ...why are banks not informing next of kins as the law suggest

But thinking of it, banks do this all the time (i.e. take the funds you deposit and use same for business) without you even knowing it. Most important thing is that whenever the owner of the funds decides to withdraw their funds, the bank would provide the cash.

If there's any party that should be worried about this, it's the bank whose access to liquid cash would be reduced. But then again, lending is the standard business of banks; they lend the cash from their vaults to the govt and then the govt pays back with interest.

mabea:
Y'all often attribute every success of this administration to Buhari even though the foundation was laid by Jonathan but when it's the other way round you don't waste time reminding us how Jonathan started it all. Let's stop this bac and forth comparison because Nigeria is bigger than both Buhari and Jonathan and also not about we against them

I wouldn't attribute anyone's success to someone else and neither would I blame anyone for the indiscretion of another. I don't go about hailing any politician cos I havent seen any admin worthy of my praise. The only reason I mentioned GEJ in my earlier comment was because of the person who hailed GEJ on the tariffs and cursed Buhari; I simply wanted to point out that the current tariff hikes we see today were agreed and signed by the GEJ during the privatisation, and there's little to nothing the succeeding govt can do about it, except either paying subsidies or reversing the entire power privatisation (which would come with a staggering cost and stifling legal consequences).

By the way, regarding the trains even, the railway modernisation plan was developed and approved as far back as OBJ's time; the first standard gauge track was also laid during that time between Warri and Ajaokuta (i.e. the line which was completed and I think commissioned just recently), so you cant really even call the railways a GEJ project - govt is a continuum.

mabea:
Hope you say the same about the rail revolution

Say what exactly?