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Kingrefreshed:
He is Benin/Edo!

He is not an IGBO you clowns

A Bini/Edo man who is from Agbor and whose native names are 'Eluonye Onyenuchea'? U get sense well well!

Dedetwo:
A runaway from Bini is not Igbo. I would love to know his Igbo name.

Lucky Eluonye Onyenuchea Irabor is not an Igbo man because he's not from your village?

This kind of misguided nonsense talk is the reason non-southeastern Igbos for decades now, have sworn never to be identified as Igbos again. But when it comes to Biafra, this same mouth you use in discriminating non-SE Igbos is the same mouth you will deploy in shouting "there are also Igbos in Delta, Rivers etc..."

Cuntface:
See the type of mods we have, and how they reason.
No wonder nairaland is not getting better.
Go and read more on geographical zones

What exactly is wrong with the statement made by Myndd? Is Lucky Eluonye Onyenuchea Irabor, the new Chief of Defence Staff not the most senior military chief? Because the man is from Agbor, does that make him less of an Igbo man? What exactly did Mynd 44 say wrong that makes you claim he isn't reasoning properly? Politics has a funny way it twists our narratives

Psalmy2cute:
Urhobo from delta state

Psalmy2cute:
But the chief of defence staff is not igbo..
Reno is 100% on point on this one

Iykoto86:
does the name sound igbo to you. Not all ikas are igbos.

How exactly can Major Gen. Lucky Eluonye Onyenuchea Irabor (LEO Irabor), from Aliokpu Agbor, Ika South Local Government Area of Delta State, be an Urhobo man? I actually keep learning new things everyday on this forum. Anyway, yesterday someone pointed out to me he must be an Edo-Agbor man cos of the way his surname sounds. Another person actually claimed he isn't a 'proper' Igbo man cos he isn't from the south east zone; with all these thoughtless public discrimination, and we still wonder why non-southeastern Igbos continue to dissociate themselves from the generality of Igbos?

Tolexander:
That is impossible.

It is just like saying you don’t think Dangote has the time to drink water or eat.

Hunger, thirst and sexual urge are part of life and hypothalamic functions in the brain.

Mind you, Dangote doesn’t have a wife and must find a way to empty his scrotal sac

The beauty of nature...

Mgbadike80:
Nnamdi Kanu established the ESN to guard the forests and residents against this type of crime but the southeast are fighting because they want to get a vice presidential position from the fulani in 2023.

Why can the SE not give the ESN some form of legal backing like was done for amotekun? Despite the opposition of the north to amotekun, the Fulani FG hasn't been able to send soldiers or policemen to go fight amotekun because of that little legal backing. But see whats happening in Orlu; unprovoked and needless bloodshed recently and one wonders if we dont have state assemblies in the SE.

awgumayor:
The legitimate security outfit backed by law is there yet, your governor and Sunday Igboho were giving quit notice. Why are they giving herdsmen quit notice if your legally backed Amotekun is living to their expectations? You have security but you cannot sleep with eye closed. We celebrate an illegitimate armed group because they are doing a legitimate thing that their people want.

The difference between Amotekun and ESN. Amotekun was formed to checkmate the activities of Fulani herdsmen who have deeply rooted and mixed with the people of south west. They are there to treat the wound and not to heal it. But ESN is here to heal the wound forever. There are here to tell the Fulani herdsmen that they have no place in Igboland, they are here to tell the Fulani that Biafran land is not Nigerian land they claim to own, they are here to tell the Fulani that there can never be Igbo Fulani or Niger Delta Fulani as said by former Bauchi state governor that " a Fulani who lives in the Niger Delta and speaks Niger Delta language is Niger Delta Fulani ", they are here to tell the Fulani that Igboland can not be under Fulani occupation unlike Yoruba land. ESN are not answerable to any useless law or any useless Igbo leader or leaders, they are answerable to the people. They have the legal backing of the people.

ESN will heal the wound of Fulani forever in our land. God bless ESN, God bless Ipob, God bless MNK, God bless Biafra.

Whether Amotekun is living up to expectation or not isnt the issue, the keypoint to note is that they're backed by law, and because it is backed by law, the Fulani controlled FG cant easily tag them a 'militia' and send the military after them as was the case in Orlu where there was unnecessary bloodshed recently. Do you realise that even with the massive opposition of the north against Amotekun, the FG hasnt been able to send any soldier or police against them simply because they were smart enough to back it up by law?

The message I (and I believe the Op) tried to pass is this; do we not have state assemblies and governors in the SE?.... If we say ESN is 'efficient' and can heal the wound, what is wrong in making it legal, instead of leaving it with the current'militia' tag? Do you know the level of needless bloodshed that 'militia' tag will attract to the SE in the coming years?

The main point made by the Op is that the SW has formed a legitimate security network backed by law, but the SE seems to be celebrating an illegitimate armed group which can easily be tagged an ethnic militia.

There's a clear difference between what the SW has formed in preparation for a Fulani invasion, and what has been formed in the SE. Obviously, the same level of reasoning that formed ESN without considering going through state assemblies is the same level of reasoning that populates this thread. So the Op shouldnt be surprised at the responses in the thread so far.

saaron:
Disintegration of Nigeria is the only SOLUTION to these terrorist murderers.

How exactly does disintegration help the tribes of the north and middle belt that have been invaded and are being pummelled daily by the Fulani marauders? The moment Nigeria disintegrates, the Fulanis would annihilate the entire indigenous tribes in the north and middle belt; the lucky survivors would run down south as refugees... I dont exactly see how that works as a SOLUTION to the Fulani conundrum.

pazienza:
Lol!
Typical.
Nnia Nwodo is on his own. And considering Ika fluidity when it comes to Igbo tag, one shouldn't fail to understand why some Igbos will say they are not being Igbos,even deep in our hearts we know we consider them Igbos. We are just bored of the identity crisis.

I was never referring to Nwodo, I didn't mention Nwodo in my comment and i didnt even know Nwodo made any statement until you said so. I was referring to the thousands of comments from Igbos online on various platforms who have made similar statements like the one Nwodo made. My original comment was directed at those comments and the people making them.

pazienza:
Good to see that you have not denied or provided rebuttal to my historical narratives on Nzeogwu, Chinaka of the Buhari dog saga, and Dr Okonkwo who was appointed the military governor of Midwest region but was rejected by Edos who accused Ojukwu of Imposing Igbo hegemony on them.
These are real life issues.

Nnia Nwodo spoke in isolation and probably out of ignorance, what so you expect of an Ohanaeze past president, they are not usually the brightest bulb in the Christmas tree which is why those who put them there chose him, however Ohaneze as a body had released a new statement affirming Irabor as Igbo.

I was irritated by your opening sentence where you claimed Nwodo was the only one who disregarded the Igbo origins of the new CDS; and to make matters worse, you went ahead to insult me for speaking otherwise? Seriously, what sort of broad daylight delusion makes a person churn out such nonsense even in this digital information age? I didn't bother reading beyond your opening sentences cos the rest of what you wrote was an irrelevant rant which had absolutely to connection with the point I made, nor my position. Next time learn to read and understand before you jump in to reply with insults.

gidgiddy:
Dont be mischievous, the two middle names can be anything. But your surname name is the main indication of who you are. Irabor is an Edo name. No Igbo man has the surname Irabor

But he's from Agbor? So are you saying with 100% certainty that even though he's from Agbor, he is an Edo Agbor man because his surname is Irabor, despite that he has 2 Igbo middle names?

pazienza:
Stop posting nonsense.
No Igbo man denied Irabor. Nnia Nwodo don't speak for Ndiigbo.
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If anything it's Nigerians that play funny games with Igbos in Delta and Edo. They become Igbo when convenient for them and non Igbo when its not.
The man who named his dog after Buhari and was arrested was an Igbo man from Anioma, same Igbo town in Delta that some mischievous Yorubas claim is Yorubaland, but it was Ndiigbo that were bashed for the man's actions. No one from Niger delta, Delta state or Edo state came out to claim the man. All news agencies called him Igbo man and Ndiigbo bore the brunt of his actions.
https://www.nairaland.com/3293032/trader-arrested-naming-dog-buhari
Nzeogwu is from Anioma too. No Edo man will agree for Nzeogwu coup to be called Edo coup, no Niger Delta will agree for it to be called Niger Delta coup. They all agree that Nzeogwu and his Anioma people are Igbos just because his actions have negative connotations. Ndiigbo never denied Nzeogwu or his people for once.

When an Anioma person is in the news for good things, Nigerians(Edo, minorities in Delta) will jump out and tell Ndiigbo that Anioma is not Igbo.
If an Anioma person is in the news for bad things, these same lots will quickly label them Igbos and bash Ndiigbo.

When Ojukwu appointed Dr Okonkwo as the Governor of Benin Republic, the Minorities there especially the Edos opposed it strongly and accused Ojukwu of trying to enthrone Igbo hegemony on them.
But Dr Okonkwo was from Anioma, the same people Edo people tell us are Edo descendants when it's convenient for them to do so.
Who is deceiving who?[/s]

Huh? What sort of deluded nonsense are you saying? That No Igbo man denied Irabor directly or indirectly? Are you saying Nnia Nwodo is the only one who made those statements? Is that exactly what you're saying? Are you sure you're okay or are you blind? or you're just forcefully feigning ignorance just to pass a message across?

I'm sorry I don't subscribe to your brand of self deceit; stopping smoking that thing you're smoking. If you go online on this forum, on facebook, instagram etc., there are thousands of comments from both Igbos and even sympathetic non-Igbos, echoing the same sentiments as Nnia Nwodo. Those misguided statements is exactly what I was addressing in my last comment; if you choose to feign blindness and ignorance to what's very obvious, then that's your damn business. Don't quote me again to tell me I'm saying nonsense when your head is the one churning out deluded trash

gidgiddy:
The controversy here is that his surname is not Igbo, but Edo. Also, he is from Agbor, which has border with Edo state. He could easily be from a border community in Agbor, with an Edo father and Ika mother. Not all Ika's are Igboid, some are edoid. But it is always the surname that determines which is which.

Lucky Eluonye Onyenuchea Irabor; sure his surname sounds much like an Edo name, I was shocked to discover he was even Deltan. But, then, his two middle names sound Igbo... The point I tried to make is that none of the people inferring he isn't Igbo have bothered to even do these checks you talk about... The sentiment expressed all over the place has been very clear, "even though he may be Igbo, but he's from the SS and not SE". This line of thought stinks of discrimination...

100% of the people asking why Tinubu isn't speaking already know the exact reason he isn't speaking; it's common sense which even a toddler can discern. Tinubu speaking or not wouldn't change the situation on ground, it would only destroy whatever is left of his political ambition. There are tens of thousands of others who can speak at times like this.

100% of those asking why Tinubu isn't speaking and urging him to speak up are actually his sworn enemies, people who hate him to the core and are desperate to see him buried.

Hmmm... Lucky Eluonye Onyenuchea Irabor, an Anioma man has just been appointed as a service chief but there're still cries in the open about PMB not appointing Igbos in the military?... Going by the current sentiments, a Delta Igbo man apparently isn't a 'proper' Igbo man...

When it's convenient, we claim all of Anioma land, Igbanke in Edo, some parts Benue and half of Rivers state as Igboland; but when it comes to politics, we thoughtlessly discriminate and ostracise these people even publicly all because they aren't from the south east zone... and we wonder why non-southeastern Igbos have sworn to never accept their Igboness?

The Fulanis are biting far more than they can chew...

Wonderful! Did the man actually sack the old chiefs or did they resign on their own?

desmond2pk:
Who gave herdsmen gone ?

Shebi when igbos where shouting that buhari came with an evil agenda you people abused us

Did herdsmen start carrying guns when Buhari became president?

My problem in all these are the impotent humans we have as governors all over the south. This nonsense has been going on for over a decade and has heightened recently. Instead of governors down south to enact laws to flush out these easily identifiable hoodlums, they're waiting for and sucking the balls of Abuja.

The only thing I find bizarre about this development is why Akeredolu is the only one pushing for this. The other time, Akeredolu was the only one championing Amotekun despite all opposition. The question is, what are other southern governors doing?

There are regular herdsmen attacks in Edo, Delta, Oyo, Enugu etc. Why are these other governors sleeping and waiting for Akeredolu to carry everything on his head?

Lol... the effrontry of the Fulanis is legendary. Right from the most educated to the least educated ones, they don't even bother to apply any iota of common sense in their bias. Nigeria as we know it is about to unfold; thanks to thr foolishness of the cattle herders.

CastedAyo:
Former Ekiti State Governor Ayo Fayose says President Muhammadu Buhari would not be forgotten in a hurry like the outgoing United States President Donald Trump, Igbere TV reports.

Mr Fayose stated this in a series of tweets on Tuesday, hours before the end of Trump’s full day as president.

He said Nigerians would remember Buhari just like Americans would recall the government of Trump with distaste.



https://twitter.com/GovAyoFayose/status/1351586586765484034?s=20

Buhari and Trump met at the White House on April 30, 2018.

Trump will vacate the White House on Wednesday morning shortly before the inauguration of Democrat Joe Biden as the 46th President of the United States.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13019232_img20210120150611_jpeg3d1ada459b19d8c7d44dea78fb662bc7

Kaiii! This man get bad mouth! Low budget Trump!

LoyalHustler1:
Where i want to build it in the south south.

We don't worry about omo onile because it's not in existence there.
All men in the south south are now all about making money and no time for omo onile or agbero.

The 24 hours stuff you said it's impossible.

by the order of Ishawuru.

Haaa!! You mean no jobless miscreants coming to disturb for deve really?... Please what part of the south south do you intend building?

Lol... Without being told, this one looks like a hungry one.

The way we broadcast gory images so easily in this country is bizarre.

Miracle2020:
thank God you know. I thought you will not bring your brain back.

Nothing ever happened to my brain; I was actually questioning the stability of yours in my last post. I'm not surprised you couldn't figure that out.

Miracle2020:
Useless fool called Peter obi. Peter, PDP and their terrorist urchins called for the banning of SARS, knowing fully well that SARS were dealing a great blow to the armed robbers, now who will they blame?
Who knows, maybe the young man's life would have been safe by SARS.
Foolish hypocrite like Peter obi can only decieve ipob bastards.
I have no RIP to waste.
ENJOY YOUR ENDSARS.

So ENDSARS has now turned to an ApC vs PDP thing? It was PDP people that organised EndSARS?... Anyway, there's no surprise here; after all, some unfortunate fellows also claimed it was APC that organised 2012 protests rejecting fuel price increase.

I think the only effective way to reverse the barbaric rule where hospitals don't treat gunshot victims until a police report is gotten is to criminalise the act of not treating gunshot victims... By the time one or two hospitals are heavily sanctioned or even sealed for not treating victims, then the message would effectively be spread.

How the educated ones and elites in the north sit back quietly and watch these barbaric acts being perpetrated in the north beats me.

For the elites, they believe things like this can never touch them cos Sharia is only for the poor; but it's only a matter of time before this madness explodes in everyone's face. That's exactly how bokoharam started, people who should have spoken up and whose voices could have been heard all kept quiet cos they believed it only affected the 'other religion'....

Hisincrease:
How have they used this followership to positively affect the society?

Is it their duty to give you a better society? How have you used your 7 'likes' on Nairaland to positively affect society?

Okoroawusa:
Bro haba!... coincidence and highway? Are you serious?

I know a Bayelsa guy called 'Increase'