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aloy~emeka refuses to accept what jesus said; no peace, sword, even purchase of swords, but he is willing to sell us a stale story that jesus is peaceful, a lamb, a willing sacrificial lamb! Haa.

but aloy~eemeka, what was in the purse and the bag that jesus said they should carry, if you know, since no one knows what were in them; incomplete info ala bible on this matter!?

@Focused123: is it so difficult for you to know that what you say in many of the instances, the answers to them from the Quran is that very Ayah (Verse)!

Surah is a chapter. Duuh.

And the only thing you have said that have made sense is honoring Muslims as you have called Abuzola "clone" of the prophet (AS). I wish it were true and I would be a clone, too.

which fight did the christian God fight for the Christians? I have only noticed the Christians doing many fights; Did Jesus do any fighting?

Viaro, are you reading this, or its the blind inner eye, again?

for those of us who still have loved ones in the trinity process of worship, I pray that Allah the Rahman and the Raheem save them by softening their hearts to Islam. the fire of hell will burn, in fury; fast and furious. consuming all that it is commanded to consume, over and over again.

you are still peddling this fakery all over the places?

you must be kidding me; sit around to watch 12 or 15 clips of about 9 to 10 minutes, each! ogbeni, when thy started burning the woman as how the polynecian people and christians roast pig (yawch) i disconnected. but the meat and potato of the thread is that gods are dead and i concur with you, since jehovah is different from earth walking Jesus or even the lower in personality than Jesus, ghost must be "dead"! you said it and i affirmed it.

You are correct; every god, of God, except the Supreme God; as an Israelite, you call Him Jehovah, as Yoruba, I call Him Oluwa and as a Muslim I call Him Allah.

This simple proposal from you kills Tinity and its Triune heads; Jesus, Ghost and Father! You shot yourself in the foot!

@Viaro: « #35 on: Yesterday at 09:48:42 PM »

olabowale, I cautioned you to not seek to ever engage me with your illiterate megaphonic self-serving pantomimes; but folks like you like to show how dense you can be - so here's just to set you straight.

And below, you proved nothing, except the presenting the most confusing process of argument! It just does not help your cause.

What is dishonest in asking a poster to share something with me privately? Just what is wrong with that? Did that sound like the roll-call of your progeny? Rather than the private chat, Nezan decided to send me a link - so just what is wrong with that? Unless you're such a mooncalf, what has this thread got to do with your rants?

You throw too much made up words. But you had later claimed that you knew enough of Islam to know that Quran had versions, the very thing that Nezan is blindly arguing without any affirmation. To illustrate the neivete of you and Nezan, I had used my beloved Yoruba subgroup accents as in the reading of a very popular book to give you the truth about the single wording of Quran (demostrating its unity and uniqueness), rather than the many diversed (tribal) accents! Progeny; (offspring), what roll is that playing here or your are just throwing words around?


[Quote]Do I care any two scoobies whether your whole generation takes it personal? You vroomed into a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with mat-spreading, head-banging schmos, and subscripted your post with derogatory remarks directed at specific people here. Then you have the cleverness of a schmuck to quip that you won't make it personal![/quote]Its too much quoloqual, moving between Yiddish and other lingos. Mat spreading is at least defined and not changing as in your case; I wonder what will the hybrid of the mashination of the old roma catholic blend with the absorbed "anglicans will chose" for their doctrine and worship methodology? This is worthy of thinking as an indicator for the reality of true religion; where yours is clearly lacking the essence of it!

Just a toss of two pence for your low IQ: what has this thread to do with "muslims" or "kabba" or "Islam"?

To help your overloaded intelligence that actually misse the the crux of your own argument; in your previous argument which I responded to, you stated that muslims face the "east", which is incorrect, considering that muslims worlf over face the Kaaba in Makka! Just correcting your overmatriculation, the reason you cose 3 gods calling it 1 God!

This is why I asked that you turn your melodrama towards the east where you guys are quite used to kocking your heads brainless in hope of your 72 virgins - that should keep you busy and save the crap of trolling threads that have nothing to do with any of thise misadventures in your posts.

All politics are local, but in your case all knowledge is local, while you pretend that yu are a worldly man; people in Australia will not be facing east in order to face Kaaba!


@tpia. : « #36 on: Yesterday at 10:26:56 PM »

olabowale stop confusing yourself and going into hysterics.

How?

as a youth, what i knew then is pale to what i know now, as almost a grandfather. now, what is clear is that i now appreciate a hijab wearing woman, rather than a "dress down naked woman!"

i do not avert face, because i wear jilbab, most of the time, or nigerian clothing, in the usa. i dont like the word servant. and when you get married, dont call your househelps servants, because everyone of us is a servant of God. me Allah's, you according to you, trinit's; jesus, and ghost and father. now thats something.

lol. type of Islam? Aburo, buy a couple and try Hijab on. me, I respect a woman in it. her confidence goes a long way with me. i will force anyone to wear it, but i will not want a non wearer for a partner.

@Mazaje: Are you consider a cradle robber if you marry a much younger woman? If a woman reached a Jewish age of bamitva (13 years old, the age of maturity), how do you think the Jews take her?

What is the age of maturity of Makkan Arabs in the time of Muhammad (as) or what are the signs, if you dont know the age?

And when you plagiarise, does your just writing about the same topic means that you have plagiarised?

Be serious, man!

@Tpia: « #30 on: Today at 02:48:44 AM »

Quote from: olabowale on Today at 01:34:04 AM

tpia; changes yes. but when you say that your God changes, then if it is Godly, you would have seen a progression of bad thing/evil thing to finally changing to good thing; as in the Quran's dont drink, dont get involve in out of marriage sex, etc. thats a change you can believe in, unlike biblical chanes; am 1 God to am now 3 gods; 1 man, another ghost and the last is a father on a chair! she o yee e? lol.

you're confusing yourself.

How? You said its no biggie if God change His mind in not a single direction, as to accomplish an objective; in Judaism He allows stonying of fornicators and adultery people, then all of a sudden He scrap all of that out, and yet it is still a sin or is it not a sin, anymore?. I said this is big deal; a biggie. And of course, read the condition of changes; Jewish God says He is One; Yahweh, Jehovah and we find Jesus said Eloi. How come there are three gods, aburo? Or Jesus was also the Eloi that he clearly called upon?

Shall Tpia be calling on Tpia when she knows she is clearly in need of relief?



@Nezan (m): « #31 on: Today at 10:59:33 AM »

You are referring to the different versions of the arabic koran as differences in style of writing? What of whole vowel variety, differences in the numbering of the verses e.t.c.? You can only confuse fellow muslims . . . if the koran was one, why then the differences in recitation?

I am a yoruba man; if i were to have lived in Ijebu Ode all my life, when I read Irinke rindo by Fagunwa or Ounjo, my pronounciation of the same wording in Ijebu accent will sound very different from Ile Ife people or Modakeke, or Gbongan, or Ibadan or Oyo and definitely from Owo, Akure, Onod, Ikare and the whole of Ekiti! Yet we are all yorubas. You get my drift? Even the ekiti people know each locality's accent!

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@nezan bahia, and others which call themselves muslims are like the church of satan saying that they are chrsitians! how do you like them bad boys?
Who do you think you will play mind games on? How can 'Church of Christ' be the same as church of satan? Do any satanist on this forum ever refer to himself as a Christian? but sunni, shi'te, bahia e.t.c. are traditional muslims, why are you hiding your head in shame, denying them? at least we Christians dont deny our own.

My point exactly, since you listed bahia, and others as Muslim (read Viaro and learn good argument process; the yorubas say that what is similar is used in comparing and contrasting on a matter), then it is normal to list Church of satan for Christianity. Afterall, they all have "church" in them!

@Viaro: « #29 on: Today at 01:47:50 AM »

olabowale, you may have noticed I'm not in the mood of entertaining silly rants from posters like you. I don't have to go to any website to know that there are many muslims who lie to themselves and to everyone; so what the crap are you all about?

The same you who was asking Nezan for private audience to that you can learn from him, the lingo of his lies on Islam? Please man, dont make me laugh at your dishonesty.

You jumped into a thread where nobody was counting beads or spreading mats to knock their heads brainless for facing the East while forgetting that Islam is as divided as you are trying to showcase for Christianity. If Nezan never pointed me to any website on what I asked him, are you going to deny the divisions between Muslims in their many sects?

I will not make it personal, and here in america, I have pointed out that many people call themselves "muslims" and they do nothing islamic; Nation of Islam, is the most known. You have the 10 percenter and then the Nubia people which started in Bushwick Brooklyn with Dr. York, now a prisoner in Georgia was the leader, his big brother Obba Obba I have personally argued with, and there are still others! And those in the eastern part of the world to kaaba face the west, and the people in the west (Nigeria is one of them) face east to actually face Kaaba! You know nothing about nothing when it comes to something/anything about Islam (am trying to be a rhyming robbin/robert).

Since Islam is build on 5 Pillars and the Quran and authentic Muhammad Compartable ahadith are what lead Muslims in truth, every group that deviate from the above have to be calibrated to be muslims by name, only. What is it about your religion; is not like you worship like Jesus or anything like that, while a true muslim will pray like Muhammad, give Zakah, fast, and go to Hajj like him as he had instructed! You on the other hand can do whatever, as long as you believe in the "blood', the only common thread among you guys!

Just crawl back to your kettle and brainless head-knocking exercise with a prospect of 72 virgins. You have a lot to occupy you when you get "there; so don't ever, ever seek to engage me with such illiterate megaphonic self-serving pantomimes.

You are grandstanding, man. This is the position of uncouth and unscholarly individual. Kettle is too small for me to crawl into, and I spend longer time standing in prayer than prostrating my face. By the way it is unislamic to hurt yourself degrading the honorable position of your humanity; so we do not have brainless head knocking exercises? Am sure that if you have a chance to marry a virgin, I am sure you will not give her away for somebody to disvirgin her. Or you will, foolishly? Pantomimes? Terrible analogy, it is not a proper word in this case, since you already said I am ranting!

@Focused123: « #23 on: October 19, 2009, 11:43 AM »

#1: Islam was established by Muhammed (The mafia boss)
Abuzola (m):« #24 on: October 19, 2009, 05:53 PM » #2. 'and indeed many messengers before you (O Muhammad) were mocked, but their scoffers were surrounded by the very thing they used to mock at' Quran 6:10
focused123 (m): « #25 on: October 20, 2009, 05:54 PM » #3: @Abuzola - The Fundamentalist Islamist ( Boko Haram)
What are you saying ? How do you interpret this ?

Focused123, in #1, you mocked Prophet Muhammad (AS) and Apostle of Allah, like all other apostles of Allah before him (Musa, Isa (AS)).

In #2, Abuzola quoted a verse that states very clearly that your mockery was not the first at Muhammad, and as a matter of fact Muhammad was not the first to be mocked among the prophets.

In #3, you asked a lame question about #2, as if it did not valid to #1, shaming that very mockery from you. Muhammad was mocked just as Jesus was mocked! Please think hard and dont let your hatred make you unjust; get away from filth!

to my muslim brothers and sisters, please do not curse anybody's parents and try to not respond to insults that you know will upset anyone to the point that it will escalate to personal anger and emotional injury. let whoever cant be civil continue, since Angels of Allah will respond to the evil doers if you restrain yourselves.

and those who curse other people parents should stop doing it. its not nice!

@Olaadegbu: « #71 on: Today at 10:38:27 AM »

God has judged all the world as being guilty before Him (Romans 3:19,23). Jesus was able to offer that woman forgiveness for her sin, because He was on His way to die on the cross for her. She acknowledged Him as "Lord," but He still told her, "Go, and sin no more." If she didn't repent, she would perish.

Was Jesus responding to the woman's blasphemy of calling him God, since Jesus in earlier time escoriated a person who merely called him "good!"? Jesus didnt die for no one; considering that your Bible says that no one shall be responsible for the sin of another, and no one shall go to paradise on the good of another! Do you under, Olaadegbu? Continue to quote Paul, while you ignore the statement of the "son of man, the prophet who had no honor among his people!" Remember that the Jews did not think Jesus judgement amount to anything, yet they are still the holder of your salvation, according to you in your "salvation is of the Jews!"?

I remember that the bible says that the 12 disciples (not apostles so Judas Iscariot counts, while Paul does not count since he was not a disciple) shall judge the 12 nations/tribes of israel. If this is taking as truth , then you have 12 Gods right there, as they are judging. No? Another proof of your multiple gods concept!

This shows us a fearful thing we face in God's Law. The very stones call for our blood. The Law cries out for justice; it has no mercy. It demands, "The soul that sins shall die!" (Ezekiel 18:4). But the Judge who rules can, at His own discretion, administer the spirit of the Law, and its spirit says that mercy rejoices over judgment -- God is rich in mercy to all who call upon Him.

The richness, is not when you call Him without repentance, a sincere one in your heart, changing your evil ways to the correct way He had laid bare in front of you: Thou shall not worship anyother gods, on earth or in heaven; Jesus was on earth. Since you dont even know who the ghost is, then he is in heaven. God the Almighty Creator says He is a jealouse God, yet you make all kind of associates for Him? How do you then justify God forgiving you, in your pure hardheartedness, when the muslims are directing you away from it and you stubbornly stick with it?

The letter kills, but the Spirit brings life. God is not wiling that the wrath of the Law fall upon guilty sinners, because He would rather acquit the criminal from the courtroom, and He can do so because of Calvary.

Like the couth will say it pure fabrication; we see the Jewish God punishing hard, and He did not change His modus operandi (even though you do not still get it, overlooking it or arrogantly ignoring it on a whim of wishful thinking), the reason there is "lake of fire" which in real human clear term; hellfire! Without the letter, even from the Bible, there is no spirit or law, because neither you will know, because there will no other way to know about them; Jesus said "i do not come to abolish the law, but fulfill it and whoever abolishes it or encourages anyone to abolish it, shall be the least in the kingdom," speaks volume; Jesus lived it and wanted others to live it, without even a single jot removed or unfulfilled! I guess Olaadegbu does not pay attention to what Jesus said, but dancing on Paul's statements instead!

The heart of the human problem is the problem of the human heart

So how did you arrive at 1 God the Creator of all, when from three gods or three personalities, one being human who did not come to be noticed in existence, if we agree with Biblical story to make this point, until "let there be light" was spoken, then the other being a ghostly thing, being the weakest, even the "word" has been argued to be higher than it and the father who is placed in a chair, being the third? This is the heart of the human problem of the human problem of the heart!

@Nezan: this man enjoy saying rape, and terrorism too often, even when better and adequately appropriate words are available! stop saying shalom, a clearly jewish word, a people who dont care ragtag for your nigerian person! you are neither a jew, by blood or by religion, unlike me who can clearly fit the arab motif, if only in religion. remember that Quran is revealed in pure and clear arabic? and of course, you dont know what language (lol) your new testament is revealed.

at least the moderator is an equal opportunity thread deletor, so stop complaining, because i am and if you didnt call my attention to it, i would never have noticed anything removed! typical Kiriyo (thats what the yoruba muslims calle kristieni), stop complaining about everything, man.

(4) Arrogant[b]and he died poor, and buried as soon as possible! Major arrogance, I say. some people cant use their elbow. they think with their knees. of course he cant be compared to any prophets of old; he was first, and direct on resolve![/b]

@Focused123: « #156 on: Yesterday at 08:24:00 PM »

Leadership Qualities of Muhammed are :
(1) Invasion of countries that have welcome him

Which country, focused123? lol!

(2) Al -Taqiyyah (Deception). Muhammad was the consummate artist on deception, fraud and lying. He encouraged lying, betrayal, treachery and all other similarly nefarious characteristics for as long as they were useful to him and to his followers' agenda to convert the whole of mankind to his perverted vision of 'Islam'.

Jacobs deceptions of his brother Esau, getting more baby bearing ewe/animals must be considered as top of the line. No? Lol.

(3) Sinfulness and No forgiveness

At least God was not trying to kill him because of sins as He tried to kill Moses whom He had sent on an errant. What about the unforgiveness of the Biblical Jesus who got upset so much that he killed a Tree? Lol. I think focused123 needs a lesson in humility and good knowledge!

i leave the rest for others who have time for the thoughtlessness of the posts in the first place. am watching the american league championship series. JeSoul, its yankee and not white sox! we think is the turnpikes tussle, this year.

(4) Arrogant

while it is retarded, the rest of the world, especially pat themselves on the back, starting up what has been done and in place among muslims, for centuries;

no wife of mine bears my last name without having their father's name in their official name!

wives are called zauj; meaning mate. husband is also a mate.

girls only academy is a known thing among muslim. when the west or the non muslim world does it, they think it is new and rave about it, turning a blind heart in on islam so that they do not acknowledge the islamic pioneering spirit.

while muslims have been educating women and people via video, the west jsut started www education, not paying attention to the pioneering spirit of Islam. even this process is now being used in medicine, in teaching, treatment of patients, etc!


backward indeed is islamic culture; Quran and Sunnah. Some people blood do not flow to the top; empty is the coconut. mooshy is the melon.

@nezan bahia, and others which call themselves muslims are like the church of satan saying that they are chrsitians! how do you like them bad boys?

while muhammad (as) was a muslim, and we claim that Musa and Isa (AS) were muslims, you cant even claim any prophet of Eloi to be christian, my proof of the weak foundation of that "way!" lol.

viaro, if you believe answering islam.com, then i ask anyone to show me where any word, a sentence, a chapter in the Quran is written, other than the very only way it is written, be it in hafs, walsh, uthmanic style of writing. if none of you can point out a single one, then know that you have all lied; answering islam, nezan, viaro, etc!

for a person who taught himself, informally how to read Quran, i can read every type of Quranic styllistic writing! there is no word missing or different from its place in any Quran, no letter missing, no sentence missing or different, no verse missing and no chapter missing. therefore your proposed accusation is baseless!

now Pastor AIO: remember i am a muslim and to me, all christians are wholesale the same! church of england or church of enugu are the same to me. i dont live in england and i am not addressing english people alone; but all christians, seeing the unclothedness of your follies!

tpia; changes yes. but when you say that your God changes, then if it is Godly, you would have seen a progression of bad thing/evil thing to finally changing to good thing; as in the Quran's dont drink, dont get involve in out of marriage sex, etc. thats a change you can believe in, unlike biblical chanes; am 1 God to am now 3 gods; 1 man, another ghost and the last is a father on a chair! she o yee e? lol.

karma, a hindu idea. at least not a chrsitian idea. karma or no karma, you are a disbeliever and Islam is bound to be victorious.

you as a woman wants women in general to be just appetizer for those who say they will never participate in the goodness of it? abeg don beg me, its a biggie big time.

nezan let me show you something; when i read anything of the bible, i wrap my heart around it. i wait as long as possible, thinking about it and when its fully digested looking at from the reality of it, then i respond to it. until then i dont react to it, having no opinion on it.

this is why you do no see me going against any biblical verse that says God is One, unique and unlike any of His creations. that is why i do not go against any verse saying that jesus ia a prophet, messenger of Israelites, performing miracles, preaching Onenes of his Lord God. that is why you dont see me saying anything indicating jesus to be human. all of these are reality; the only reason i give opinions about all the impossibilities like God being more than one, a part dying, a part being human, another being ghost, etc.


you should use this strategy to react to Quranic verses! things that are human are just human; you cant expect a person to be abused and not reach a saturation, whereby he/she responds!

the question is better addressed to you! skyone who is insinuation that his father can have my father as a son. i bet your dad is not as old as my oldest brother, hence is just my big brother. aburo, you better start calling me uncle; skyone.

« #115 on: Today at 10:11:07 PM »

mushin,
Umm Rashid did not say anybody should be killed, but that rather that all humans are born Muslim.
So the following follow:

1. We are all born Muslims.then act like one. get married, instead of having sex with your ignorant muslim girlfriend, in somalia; your words

2. Muslims like Abuzola hold the view that apostates must be killed.not really without an enemity to Islam, thinking that the lives of muslim and the freedom to practice his/her islam is now his own to determine

3. Apostates are those who have changed their religion (general case), or those who have left Islam for another religion (particular case).your definition soth you, even though it is incorrect, islamically, just like the way west used infidels for all disbelievers, while disbelivers and deniers are more like it

4. All non-Muslims are apostates - they were born Muslims but later changed to some other religion.but Allah does not throw "apostate" using your general label, unless after he dies on apostasy

5. Muslims like Abuzola hold the view that all non-Muslims must be killed!not his view.

Is there something wrong with the above sequence of statements? Thank you.

4. Muslims like Abuzola; He is a good muslim. And all of us in Isam are students of that noble religion.

cooker the same old testament said that the fornicator and adultery people should be stoned, the reason they approached jesus who the bible assigned the famous "who ever does not sin should throw the the first stone," phrase. i often ask myself, why didnt the biblical jesus show us that he did not sin, by throwing the proverbial first stone, as he had said? i guess he did not remain sinless, from the bible obvious killing of tree, calling people fools, especially when he knows that whoever calls anybody a fool will go to hell, calling a nation of people dogs, unfit to eat crumbs falling off from the child's table! You want more?

by the way, the jews didnt think jesus judgement amounted to anything, the more reason they came to Muhammad (AS) to give them the final judgement, confirming what was in Torah.

i am not responding to the 13 years old girl's issue.

aloy~emeka sees what he wishes to see in the bible; the peace loving part, like the hari-krishna hinduism. i have always thought he is a man of some resolve in honesty, until now.

the bible says jesus said this and turns around and said completely opposite. now, which part is right, or neither?