help is not always about money. At any rate, some things are better than money. The above was just an example.

it mean exactly what you read. I met her as innocent young girl in secondary school. Through my guide she learn to build her self confidence, and also was able to pursue her education. Something she almost gave up after repeated attempt at doing waec. Dont get me wrong, I didnt pay her tuition, I was also a student too and just 2 or 3 year older than her. But I did have the ability to inspire. She happened to be a beneficiary.

Before then, she had never interact with boys and she was a shy and reserved lady.

wow! This thread is still hot and steaming! Kudos!
@ika,
Did I just read that you have 10 husbands? Hmmm if you need the 11th, dont add crazyman. You may not be able to add more afterward.

weeks ago, I got an unusual text from my ex asking for forgivness! It was a brief but thought invoking text. I didnt reply, but I was in disbelieve. One, the number she sent sms to is very private. Only 4 people know about it and I have not use the line for months. Two, I have parted from her about 5 year ago after nearly 8year of promising relationship that ended when someone deflowered her. She had earlier vowed to marry the man that deflower her. I thought it was a joke, but it wasnt. She ended the affair. It was painful but we let go. And we never get in touch since then. We live in diff states.

So when I got the text, I contacted my brother who live close to her town. And he told me he gave her the number after too much pleading.

The text asked for pardon and also requested to see me. She also cut the figure of an unhappy woman. I forgave, and then told her to fix a date. I was aware she is married with a kid. But I need to know so many things. Why did she suddenly remember me after all the years? Why ask for pardon? We exchanged texts and I was convinced I can help her get back to life. I planned to help her marriage work and also ensure she put the ghost of our relationship behind her.

And then, the texts stopped. I didnt fix a date to meet her and she neither. The exchange of texts lasted 5 days.

After that, a guy started chatting me on the yahoo ID she gave me. I knew he is a guy because he gave himself away. But I assumed that he is her co-worker. Beside, I am very much familiar with how the girl communicate. I made her, and I groomed her to maturity. Any way, I told the guy never to impersonate the girl again. I even added him on facebook. I wonder if he is the true face I saw.

Last weekend, a number that has been flashing me sent an sms and wrote "se she didnt tell you she is married with kids and bla bla bla. I couldnt grasp the source since I am not into anything like that. But I asked the sender's identity. We exchanged a series of texts. I inferred from it that he is my ex gf husband. I wasnt stunned, but I pitied him. He sounded like an idiot who put his house on fire and then start attacking a fire fighter for wetting his expensive rug! He sounded desperate to find out if his wife is cheating on him. I wonder why.

I have read enough. So I replied him that it is unfortunate that people like him are allowed to marry in the first place. He isnt worth being called a husband. Instead of thinking how to strengthen her marriage and make her traumatized wife happy, he was busy probing her past, reading her texts and scrolling through the number she called trying to find out if she is cheating on him!

He even had the gut to tell me 'it is no big deal' since 'she also do the same!' No wonder, they have unhappy marriage.

I threaten the guy and lambasted him for even suspecting his wife fidelity when that one has trusted him with everything. (while the lady even used his number to text me, the guy obviously use a new number to text me.) He stopped sending me texts after I rain invectives on him.

My point: if a foolish bf/husband threaten you behind the phone, make him regret the act as long as you are innocen of the foolish accusation he threw at you.

It is time people stop blamming outsiders for their own problem. If you snatch someone lady and impregnate her, you must be prepared to receive a backlash in future if the lady's heart return to the original source. It is better to have a 'wife' than a 'mother of your children'

Also to ladies out there, it is time to start using head when deliberating on marriage instead of using your emotion. Marrying someone because he deflower you is good 'only if the man is worth being married. Also marrying someone for his wealth would just last as long as the wealth keep flowing.

Finally, why would some people be so insecured as to spend every night of their marrital life scrolling through their partners' phones and emails? And why would any man think that after marriage, his wife must not communicate with any guy again? The world is changing. It is time to learn to trust.

@poster,
As much as I know that all experiences cant be the same, there is a lot to learn from others. And yet, only a foolish man will turn blind eyes to reality.

If your final explanation is true, I want you to know that any man that go to the extent of threatening a woman with death just to marry the woman will be a violence husband. It will be a tragedy if you allow his threat to make you go to him even if you want to do so in the first place. He has shown the other side of him.

Did he want to marry you or he want you to wait for him?

As for the second guy, if you love him as to be his wife and he knew all these, then confide in him and both of you should map out plan of action. He as a man will know what to do. I just hope the first guy isnt an area boy because he may make you suffer physical damage.

I suggests you find a wise man to talk sense to the first guy while you and your prefared guy arrange your wedding. If the first guy go to far, try call the police.

You must be so good sha. Because guys dont fight over useless ladies.

@mike,
Thanks for that input. We seem to overlook the fact that pastor kay didnt say he caught his wife having sex with TBJ. That to me is something that should be scrutinized

that is sad!

i think you should show appreciation to her and then work toward improving the situation.

@poster,
To be honest with you, you shouldnt be confused at all.

Your story remind me of a similar one that happened in ancient time. Ninon de Lanclot is a very famous courtisian and she boasted of an intimidating credential of having dated all the powerful men in Rome during her time. She used and dumped the men and kept them coming back.

One day, a young handsome prince narrated the same story very similar to yours to Ninon. He was confused and was desperate to win the woman. Ninon, at old age then, listened to the prince. And when she could no longer take it, she offered to help. The result? Your guess is as good as mine.

I wish I could write more! But for simplicity sake, you have to stop acting as if youare desperate for her. Stop talking about your emotion. Instead talk about common interest and watch out for many signs. Signs that I mean isnt sign of love. But signs of her perception about you. Dont forget she had a boyfriend. It is risky for you to date her while she is madly in love with someone else who is the centre of her attention. If the other man is better than you, you will just remain her emotional toy even if she had sex with you!

In your friendship with her, she will one day tell you about her man. There lies the key to know what step to take. You have that chance, but bungled it by rushing to declare your emotion. She may be lying about the guy and she may not. It is yours to find out.

She smiles at other guys in class while you wear miserable face? That is sad. You neednt let that bother you. Try mingle with other ladies too and smile at other ladies instead of looking at her when she smile at other guys.

At any rate, intelligent ladies dont care about your big grammar and other stuffs. Win her by showing your worth and dont let her turn you into a 'star gazer'. She is thd star, and you are the gazer. Learn to build relationship through positive actions instead of piling up emotional debt.

@iice,
I wish I can. You know I am busy lately. I do read but have not been posting much. I am sure others are still around to make the place go on.

E go beta!

na wa o! I dont know how to toast women too. But I am ready to learn if it is a science.

People get confused on matter like this because they lack self confidence. What is more, after exhausting the grammar, and you finally win her attention, you will face a new round of fear.

The key is to shut up when you dont know what to say. Wait, before you say mama gee, I can tell you that you can use silence to woo a lady if you employ the right attitude. If you are confidence and endowed with right poise, you will find the truth in Kiplings words 'by your silence, you shall talk!'

@iice,
Yes ma!

just one word for the poster : MUGU!

Wow, I cant believe it is real. Wasted emotion. It is time to lick your wound and do away with her even if she bring your pastor to beg. You should get a nice lady elsewhere.

the lady tested you and you failed, so she halted the train before you derail it with your ignorance.

The key is: she asked you whether you know what you are actually asking for when you asked her out, and you replied you didnt know what you are asking for! So she told you she will tell you later and since then, she stopped picking your call!

Think about it. What you told her was interpreted as you dont know what you are doing and she is not ready to waste her time on you. You made a bad impression of yourself. The best solution for not is to quit making a mess of it. Take a break and learn from where you are wrong. Also learn to know what you want from ladies before you open your buccal cavity to woo her.

the pastor narrating the above must be condemned instead of glorified. Granted that T B joshua may have his failing, the truth is that the pastor willing went into the synagogue when he couldnt find miracle in Salvation Army Church. That is so glaring in his story. He wanted fruit of the womb. This failure to get what he wanted and the clandestine (he didnt prove it) affair his wife supposedly had with the man of God is the cause of his leaving the synagogue.

So many questions. I wish he can answer them. He remarried to prove his fertility. He didnt say he caught his wife making love to TB Joshua. That act of impatience is a bad example for his followers as we all know the position of christainity on marriage. It is a pity that the wife is the loser. TB Joshua loses nothing. I hope that every couple, especially women learn from it. That pastor kayode was only looking for justification to remarry.

I wonder what kind of salvation he would render his congregation when he ran away from his own challenge. He should thank God he is not a RCCG pastor, he would have been axed like Igbodalo.

Funny, how men cheat and still see nothing wrong. How will you feel if your gf is the one kissing another man and sucking his dick?

Each time I read of heart break, I feel sorry for our generation. Love is becoming an element of oppression. Unfortunately, man must experience it to be happy!
@poster,
That cant be complete truth, you know?

communication is the key

the story can be true. Why? I was almost in similar scenerio years ago. After my secondary school days, I had my first love which run for 8 years. Like the poster's first guy, I always speak in parable even till date. I didnt defiled my lady and kept faith with her. Unknown to me, she started secret one. And within few weeks, the other guy (who live closer to her) has brainwashed her into sex and from then, it was a cat and mouse game. I found out through my brother that she is double dating and my virgin lady is now sleeping around!

What did I do?

Madam poster, what I did was to visit the gal late at night, though it was very inconvinence to me. I went to her house at 7pm and waited for her till 10pm. I lived in lagos, and she in ogun. But my brother live on her street, so I was prepared for it.

When she finally appeared, I sat her down and talked as if nothing has happened. I love using parables alot (and those familiar with me here will have seen that). But that day, I told her things that made her cry. It is not that she didnt understand the parable. It is just that the second guy was closer, and faster. I blessed my girl and asked her to go ahead with d second guy. In short, I freed her.

She came back months later to beg! I heard the new guy was a pervert he maltreated her a lot. Anyway, I didnt send her back and I didnt take her serious anymore. She eventually married the guy. It isnt a smooth wedding as she espected. Even after having a kid, she still return to beg! But this time, shame wont allow her to visit me again.

My points?
The guy talking in parable must have been telling you something that made you sticked to him in the first place. You cant tell us that in over 2 years, he never mention about his plan and desire. That would be an indictment of you. What stopped you from asking for clarification? And what make you stay longer with him when you dont understand him?

Unfortunately, the deed is done!

The second guy has advantage not because he didnt speak parable (you know my lady think writting love poem is parable?) but because he is more flashy and maybe the allure of travelling out of a rotten country is an irresistible bait. But he may also be a good man.

Let me ask the following questions:
1. Supposing the SAfrica guy has been deported or returned home worse off, will you still have left the parable guy?

The answer to that question will tell more about the kind of love you had for him.

My suggestions:
In as much as you have decided to go with SA guy, you must not underestimate your first guy. You cheated on him by double dating. And the general problem with double dating is that the player may lose everything when the victims find out.

If your first guy make too much noise about it and paint you in a bad light and the 2nd guy found out. A gradual distrust btw you and the 2nd guy will be established.

The key to your problem is your 2nd guy. He must be informed about the threat before it is too late. It is risky, because if he is an impatient type, he may dump you asap when he find out you are double dating. It is your cross!

Before you do the above, however, talk to you oracle. Let him know that he didnt propose and hence the reason you have to move on as you dont want to be wasted. That is if truly, he did not propose.

And when your 2nd guy accept your stories, learn to stick with one guy for better.

thank u lawal. Hope that is ok. At least you make a point without insulting. That is what human being do. If the robot (you wont hear his name from me again) you are defending has not not been using insulting words against others, no one will call him a fool.

Is it not ironic that he is first and only one I ever insulted on any public forum? It show how much he need to meditate.

Point of correction: it is not age that I visit religion board, I hardly visit at all unless a thread I follow is moved here. I came this time for two reasons:
1. To let everyone know that as much as you want to put Islam in right perspective, you cant win through hitting at other people. It is impossible to slap someone and still invite him to dinner. Then when he pick a spoon, you slap him again. Do you expect him to eat with you? That is my logic.
2. For anyone to be so notorious that even muslims avoid him like a plague while claiming to promote Islam tell us that something is wrong. If a neutral outsider come and the show that he is wrong, instead of glorfying the wrong, we must admonish the person.

Personally, I dont rate muslim by clothes or name. I rate them base on how they practice Islam. After all we know Islam is a way of life. Why must he be allowed to run others down?

Look, he isnt the only one here that is anti christain. Why would I single him out? Meditate on it the truth will be open to you.

Admittedly, I may be long on nairaland, I am a complete stranger on religion board. That means most of the names including you are new to me. I know davidylan on family and politics and we have disagreed and agreed on issues. I must tell you the truth, he has never call me a fool or stupid before even till date. Why? Because I knnw how to disagree with people without attacking their persons. There are people with even more caustic tongue than david. There was once Adam and co. There were men and women with strong tribal sentiments and there are those with nothing in their heads. In all these, I wasnt abused and I didnt agree with them. Why must it be the one who claim to be muslim? Think, my man. There is no smoke without fire. I must have seen or noticed something that escaped your attention. Rather than prevail on him, you guys are praising him. It is unfortunate.

This is the way you can understand me. A man you have been living with is growing fat. There is no way you will know if he is growing gradually. It is outsider that will first notice before you do. You cant see your back. Let a sincere person do it.

I stand by my statement that christains must not be treated as kafir. If that is what make me agent of xtains so be it!

My challenge to every muslims here is to live their faith. Let people fall in love with your good deeds and not your swords. Look at salah day. Did anyone notice that most of the sponsors that adorn our tv during ramadan disappeared from airwave? That situation will continue until next ramadan! Why cant muslims for God sake focus on build their community instead of aiming to destoy others? It is the point that I am making. Rather than bothering about how many God jews and christains worship, why not focus on how to help weak muslims build their faiths? Rather than talking of which religion lead to hell and which lead to paradise, why not let it show in your neighbour? Let the people see what good Islam has to offer and not how sharp your swords. The prophet won converts through is deeds. Please read Muhamad Al Ghazal's book, the Muslim Charater and see the beauty of Islam. When you finish come back and fault my position.

So far so good.

Let this thread usher in a new era where you guys learn to show much respect to everyone yet while you agree to disagree. I will rather live with diehard christain than a muslim who believe everyone else is wrong except him and those who agree with him. I always warn my students both at quranic school and at western school that the most important lesson they can learn is to know how to keep an open mind. Never assume that you will always be right. Listen more to your opponents criticism than your friends' praise and you will grow in leap and bound.

fizzybaba,
Thanks.

If there is anything I am here for, it is to show how much hypocrisis is in the boy. He contimues to ignore issues and attack people. I have no choice than reply him. It is the people like him that make islam attractive to those who want to insult the muslims. It is now clear that he isnt the right man to be allowed to propagate Islam. He is suffering from an terminal cancer of the mind.

Alimo2.
I refuse to classify abumugafal as a muslim. His acts are unislamic. The earlier someone point that out, the better for the muslim community.

The prophet narratted the fate of 3 people whose cases will be the first to be judged on the day of judgement.

One of them is a jihadist whn spent his life fighting unbelievers until he was drained of the last blood. He would be raised on judgement day and shown the way to hell. When he asked why, he will be told that he fought the unbelievers so that people can hail him and acknowledge his bravado. He will be told that he has earned his reward on earth!

The second is a scholar, . .

Anyway, what will I gain if I return his insults? He dont know me and I dont know him. He is dying slowly with anger boiling in him while I am having fun pointing out the way to happiness for him. He is hating, I am loving. He is ranting, I am talking.

I think only a fool will take him serious henceforth until he stop abusing his opponent and also stop acting like god.

Like I said earlier, he is sick and need help. I am not a coward who run away from people like that. People like him should be sent to rehab for the sake of ummah.
@abumugafal,
I have no more words for you. Since you are learned. Let me tell you what the prophet said. Isaa lam tastahi,fasna maa shiita. If you are shameless, continues with your old way!

If you ever need me. Or if you ever crave to kill me. Just email me. It is on my profile. I am sure you will go to paradise if you can kill as many muslims and christains as you can. Lest I forget, dont overlook the Afghanistan deal. My mum lives close to markaz, just invite me when you are ready to slaughter me. I will be there! Mugafal!

Bye!

@abubalid,
You are a true blooded idiot. The word balid means idiot. It is an arabic word. Like I said, you are the first I am insulting on nairaland since I joined and I have no regret because you deserves every meaning idiotic and stupidity can conjour. I am not surprised.

You said you open a goodwill message for me. It is still there. Does your religion, I doubt if it is Islam, tell you that the way to apologize is to call others stupid, ignoran? Who are you fooling? Still you tagged reasonable discussion as words from basket mouth. What a real idiot! I wonder if you read the post at all.

Read the reply below your last posting and tell me if it still sounded like a basket mouth jokes to you.

The earlier you understand that you are the real problem of this section, the better it is for you.

You even have the gut to admit that you are using quran to curse and you know how to do it! Maybe those curses are already polluting your mind. Use it for good and you will see a positive change in your life.

If you dont reply the questions I posted earlier, I will continue to see you as hypocrite and a fake muslim. You are not worth being taken serious at all.

Look, let me educate you a bit. It is not everyone that preaches Islam and try to win convert that are muslim. Some of them are muslim by tongue. You recite kalima and the pronto, you start dreaming of a paradise. What a waste of imaan. Go and get a book I earlier recommended to you. LET US BE MUSLIM. It is just 200 naira. And if you are broke, send me your address, I will mail one to you. People like you should be gagged and put in a cofin to rot alive. You are polluting Islam much more than you are promoting it.

When I went into suffism years ago, I observed your kind. They read copiously from hadiths and barely manage to read quran except when doing talisman. And what is more, they dont observe daily prayers as it was recommended. They relies on saints, and sheikhs to make important decisions. I was a good student and so challenged the above. I got a shocker. They tried to brainwash me. I told them, anything that contradict quran will be rejected by me. And I stood my ground. And when I have learned enough I left them.

Why am I going this far? It is to let you know that faith is not by mouth. There are people who make noise about Islam in public but are hypocrites.

It is your choice to decide if you want to be a true muslim or a legal muslim. May God help you!

As I said earlier, you need help fast before you go astray!

by the way, I was told not to judge you. I will stick to it. Go open a million threads. What I ask you is to substantiate a claim from quran and not to select the best joke of the century.

If my being fair, tolerance, and honest to everyone mean being a free thinker to your disjointed mind, so be it! If my asking you to stop attacking your opponents mean being a free thinker to you, so be it. And if my asking you to live peacefully with others is free thinking so be it. So far, you have not said those values I espoused are not what Islam stand for. And you have not provided a single verse that show I was wrong. That implies you are just ranting. Furthermore, against my many years of personal vow, I quoted quran on nairaland in arabic. Just to let you know I am not relying on my intuition alone. If you cant use the quran you believe in and wont accept it content, but rather insinuated that I am cursing you, what make you any difference from those who dont know Islam?

Mr poster, if you want to apologize, do as you are told. And if you want to keep wagging war against everybody, it is no shame. You reap what you sow.

On sultan, what a manner of correction are you making on nairaland? Is that Islamic? You want to correct someone bigger than your alfa but went to post the correction on a forum where people blaspheme against your faith. Does that make sense to you? Why not write a letter and mail it to him? Why not visit him since you are northerner? Why subject him to ridicule on a forum and create wrong impression that you are godlier than him? Or why didnt you go ahead with your fast when you sighted the moon knowing that God will reward you instead of blaming him? Did he take away your food or stop your parents from preparing meal for you so that you can fast 100days?

Mr man, you need help!

typically you. Address the issues I put up the and stop acting like a munafik. You said with your own mouth that every part of quran are use for cursing. And you knew how to do it. I am not refering to the hadith you quoted elsewhere but the thread you open for me. Swallow your pride. Admit you are wrong!

Who is a freethinker? I wonder why you read your quran upside down. Address the thread above and stop beating round the bush.

u want to tell a baby who his father is? How many month old?

mr poster, I think it is wrong for you and your wife to be doing that in the first place. The pain it will bring is better imagined. You must stop checking your wife phones. If you trust her stop it. If you must check her phone, do it periodically maybe not unless you suspect anything.

The second issue that is glaring in you post is that if all the time you have been checking her phone, you didnt notice she was sending rc to her mum, then it show that your wife is smarter than you. It show that she delete the numbers/sms she dont want you to see. So of what use is checking her phone to you? She may be a faithful lady who merely want to be sure that you dont flirt around.

Finally, if your wife send rc to her mum, that shouldnt cause you heartbreak. You should rather praise her. Parents should be taken care of. Since she has not get a job, she can only send money or rc to her mum through the pocket money you gave her. After all, she was not stealing your money, and your money is not missing. In all honesty, you should be doing what she did.

However, if you are tired of giving her pocket money, find job for her to do. Dont make a issue of the rc she sent to her mum. It will weaken her trust in you. Handle it maturely or forget it entirely.

pls dont fall for the girl yet. She may wake up one day and return to the guy. Most ladies cant get over their first love easily. If the guy is still begging her, dont put all your heart in her yet. You can just be friends until you are sure she want to be with you.

A point of caution, stop discussing her ex with her. You are taking her backward.

By the way, if you are in her ex shoe, how will you feel? Show understanding. But get your act together.

@abuzola,
Before I replied you, I must ask you few questions.
1. Why did you open a thread abusing me when you have been told to stop by others?
2. Did you notice that on nairaland, you are the FIRST AND ONLY ONE ON NAIRALAND I CALL STUPID from the time I join this forum? And that in all my replies to you, I focus on addressing the issue instead of launching direct attack at you as you are doing to me and others?
3. Do you really use your own quran to curse? Is that what God asked you to do with it? God said: wa nan sil minal quran ma huwa shafahun warahmat, We put in the quran what heals and blesses,
Can you in you mind say that you are following the quran you read by using it to curse others? Is that the character of a true muslim? If it is now, who do you think will take you serious when you deviates except someone with disjointed mind?
4. When you attacked sultan and called him a deceiver, what gain do you hope to achieve? In your last post, you went on to Mention Alh Adam al ilori. The man that you cant even eat from his plate! What are you trying to achieve by dragging everyone down while you preach something you dont understand? Are you not aware that your act is equivalence to slander? Go and study quran and see the punishment prescribed for people like that.
5. In the quran, from begining to end, is there any verse where God asked that christains be exterminated if they dont accept Islam? Why did quran not refer to them as kafir? Isnt it the same quran that asked you not to force people to embrace Islam? Did the prophet ever force a single soul to accept islam? Bring out your evidence!
6. When people blaspheme against God, do you sincere think attacking their religions is the best way to convince them they are wrong? Quote a single verse of quran or hadith that support your action.
6. Finally, when you called me stupid, and lambasted muslims from the south simply because I pointed out that you are deviating from Islam, did it make you a better muslim? Or did it add value to your faith in the sight of God?

It is not for me to forgive you. It is for you to seek forgiveness from God at the corner of your room. As for our difference, I doubt if I can settle with you. You are mistaken if what you mean is that I join you in your misguided mission. I am not a fanatics and never shall. I am not at war with you. I dont know you and dont want to know you. I am at war with your murderous and malicious spirit. Stop threatening people with death. And stop attacking your opponents personality. Attack the issues and let your character speak for you.

If you sincerely feel sorry that you have insulted me, you must open a new thread as you have done in abusing me and apologize. If you do that, you will be forgiven and I will get out of the religion board for good. I dont have business with this place. If you are too big to apologize, I will still maintain my original resolve, but would be convinced that you are not a muslim worth hearing.

Quran said: yuhtil hikmat man yashau. Wa man uta li hikimat fakod uti khaeran kaseeran. We bestow wisdom to whom me like and whoever is granted wisdom, has indeed received a great blessing. Take note WISDOM is not the same as KNOWLEDGE and has nothng to do with jihad. Wisdom manifest in your conduct.

If only you can take break on nairaland and remove the spirit troubling you. It will be better. Peace!

abubalid?

Being a virgin does not make you a better wife or husband, but it can make you an easy catch. That ends there.

Dont forget there is no single woman but was once a virgin with the same belief. Men, dont look at virginity once it is lost. They look at you. If you are good, and your man is good, it willwork out whether you are a virgin or not. Btw, did the lady find out if the would be husband is also a virgin? If he is not, what make him better than others? And what become of the lady she defiled?

I concur. I would not advise it. It is cenral to most of the tale of heartbreaks we have been reading. Seeing your lover everyday, when you are not married is like put fire near an explosive when you have no fire extinguisher

@abuzola,
I am so disappointed in you! I just laugh like I am reading Ali baba jokes.

Let me tell everyone my reason for posting in Arabic.
1. I want to know if you, abuzola, truly know the quran you have been preaching and whether you are a true muslim worthy of being heard.
2. I wanted to cover your shame by admonishing you quietly so that that the xtains you are trying to kill wont misinterprete my words and finally,
3. I wanted to test your level of knowledge of Islam.

From your last reply, you have shown that you are complete ignoramous preaching what you dont even understand and wanting to die for something you are not even faithful to!

For you to call verses of quran curse make you no difference from the people you want to exterminate. The job must begin from you. Go back to school!

Let me help you a little so you can see how little you know of Islam. . .

The verse: Inna lah Laa yugayir maa bi qaomin etc is a verse of quran which means:: ALLAH WILL NOT CHANGE THE CONDITION OF A FOLK UNTIL THEY CHANGE WHAT IS IN THEIR OWN MIND! In other word, until you recondition your mind to receive the truth as it were and not the truth as you imagine, there is nothing that can help your cause. You will just be swimming in self delusion while thinking you know all.

My man, is that a curse? You claim to be ahlu sunnah, and want to die for Islam but cant interpret simple quranic verse or ask for the meaning before you said I was cursing you! Olabowale is well verse in quran, he can tell you if I was cursing you or not. See why you are not worth being allowed to ruin Islamic image? I wonder how many verses of quran you have misinterpreted and how many people have fallen for your fake faith. I am not in your mould and I dont have your time. Pack your bag and invite someone to teach you quran and bible so that you can remove the spirit of hatred from your heart. I will even recommend you Ifa Olokun asorodayo if it help your cause.

It is because of people like you that the prophet said: Tolabu l ilmi , af'dol inda lah minna solat, was sakat, wa siyam, wal hajj wa jihad fi sebililah!!

Before you say Olanajim is cursing your dull head. It means: To be properly educated is more rewarding in sight of Allah than observing solat , fasting , pay alms (as if you are doing others favour), going to mecca and fighting the cause of Allah. . .

Without proper education, if you perform the above including you misguided jihad, you are wasting your time. The prophet said:: so many of you are those who observe solat but will get nothing except physical exhaustion, and the fast but get nothing except hunger! Why? Because they do the right thing with wrong intention and wrong approach. We have just finished ramadan, and you have started insulting your own leader. Saying he deceived you etc. When we drew your attention to the fact that Islam allowed you to make your independent decision, you went berserk! Calling me stupid and threatening to destroy christains. You even accused me of impersonating david and mukina and called southern muslims weak just because we dont buy your idea of mutually assured destruction. Is that what they are teaching you at your al qaeda camp? Just run your own mouth into trouble.

Let me interpret one more of the quranic verse I quoted so that your empty head will know I wasnt cursing you in Arabic. Inna lasina kafaru sawahun alaehim ansar tahum am lam tusir hum laa yu minuun! THOSE WHO WILL REJECT FAITH, IT IS WRITTEN ON THEM, WHETHER YOU ADMONISH THEM OR NOT, THEY WILL NEVER HEED YOU. THEY ARE BLIND, DEAF AND THEIR HEART HAS BEEN ZEALED, LOST. Like someone have said, A LOST CASE!

Is that a curse? If you are wrong and people tell you you are wrong and you start threatening them with death, does that not mean you are a lost cause? I fear for your imaan. Nothing destroy a man faster than the believe that he is super intelligent and that everyone else is wrong. Even the prophet did consultation with his companions when he want to make some decision. You are damaging Islamic creed. That is a fact. The worst sin a muslim can commit is shed a blood of muslim. To talk ill of a fellow muslim is like killing ones brother and the eat his flesh! Think of how many cadavar you have consumed and tell me if you are ahlu sunnah! By the way, why not start your jihad by projecting the good things Islam preaches? Respect others, be humble, forgiving and tolerance. Learn to shut up (isnt that what itikaf tried to teach you?), tolerate other religions and stop condemning christainity as a whole. After all quran said amana rosul bimo unsila ilaehim. Go to bakra and digest it. Finally look for what you can do to better your community. Let people recognize you through your positive contribution and not through how many threats you dish out to your opponents. Stop defaming Islam. Learn to seperate people from issues. For instance, if a christain offend you, dont attack christainity as a whole, attack the individual. Similarly, stop insulting southern muslims. They have made more progress in the community than the largest Northern muslim sect. Quote me. The build bridges in the south not gulf! It is left to you. I am just a warner. Not a single one of us will judge for God. Do your thing and let others do theirs. If your ideals do not appeal to others, prove them wrong with positive deeds and not caustic tongue!

Jarus defended you, but you replied him with harsh words asking him to produce evidence of your calling me stupid? Cant you read what you posted? It show that you have cancer of the mind. Stop defaming Islam and return to school to learn not just quran but also pursue a western education, preferably sociology. It will help your cause. Meanwhile try to be humble and stop preaching what you dont understand. Instead, start listening as you rebuild your faith.

@uplawal?
I must confess, that is your first post I ever read on nairaland. I swear to God. And though I have heard the name before, i thought it was a slogan used in kwara state. Uplawal adorned Ilorin metropolis during the gov lawal administration. Anyway, uplawal!!

Please be informed I am not here to abuse. Go read my past posts. I hate to insult people even if they deserve it. I am urging you in the name of the faith you profess to stay away from my posts! Just ignore me. I will respect you more.