₦airaland Forum

nadisms:
Probably you dont understand the impact of this relocation.

That church attracts thousands of people daily,which also affects lagos state revenues,because those people will sleep in hotels and patronise some businesses in lagos. At the end, these businesses will have enough money to pay tax to the government. A lot of his followers from different part of the world always throng his ministry on a daily basis.

Anywhere that Ebuka obi relocates to , would result in increase and massive development in that area..the reason why he doesnt want to mention the place because if he do, with 30million naira,you may not be able to buy a land there..

He knows what he is saying....

There have been massive influx of SEeasterners to east recently with strong financial and infrastructural dev ongoin, which I have clearly noticed.

A lot is going behind the background....

God will spare our lives and you will be here in 2027, when we will discuss that Pastor Ebuka never relocated from Lagos to Aba or Onitsha.

AntiMarxist:
Okoros just showing they have no leverage whatsoever in Nigeria .

They need Nigeria and not the other way round.


If they are serious , let them recall all their Amakas and Chiomas from all the brothels and see if Lagosians won't riot against LASG.

You get bad mouth!

plaindealer:
I love the new vigor and proud resurgence of the Yoruba language and speakers, it's taking over our landscape, it's almost the unofficial Nigerian language, it's the dominant language in social cultural and entertainment scene.

If you don't speak or understand Yoruba, you better go and learn because it's your future..

This statement is very wrong and insensitive to other Non-Yoruba Nigerians.

Nigeria is a Nation in emergence. Different peoples dominate different aspects our National Life.

In the Military and Bureau De Change Business, Hausa is the dominant language.

In the entertainment and cultural aspects, Yoruba language is widely spoken.

In the Trading and SMEs sector, the Igbo people dominate but it seems they don't encourage speaking their language to other or like the idea of other Nigerians understanding their language, they prefer to use Pidgin English.

mrvitalis:
Obi won the election its so clear but we know the tribunal would likely rule what they want to rule

Yes they can but their name and integrity would be gone for good they have to openly show bias to achieve their aim

Can yakubu come tomorrow and talk about integrity n anyone take him seriously? No he is even scared to appear for any interview

How about wike? Hi

Let them do what they want but their name would be damaged for life

How did Obi win?

NONE of his seven witnesses was at the polling unit or collation centre to give first hand eye witness accounts or provided alternative results which showed the votes scored by Peter Obi which was ahead of the other candidates

Shame! What is the purpose of a woman dancing seductively and making the husbands of other women to be having illicit erections?

The Tea- Pickers should come together and start their own Tea Plantations that will employ them and not have anything to do with machines.

ganisucks:
I hate to discuss things that are not peripheral, but in this case I'll make an exception. I hope you know that what you just posted is actually not in your favour. If two states could produce 18,000 blurred result sheets, how many would the other 34 states produce. It's 1...2...3 elementary.

Honestly, most of these Obidents are NOT intelligent.



Where did you see 18,000 blurred results sheets? What is the total polling Units in these two States that they will have 'Blurred results sheets' from 18,000 units?



Blurred Images on IreV is NOT the same thing as 'Blurred Results sheets'

Quality of the images depended on these who captured the images and the focusing power of the lens of the camera. All these does NOT affect the hardcopies.



Did the testimony of the Professor as being discussed here in anyway relate to this?

senatordave1:
Worst case is a partial rerun in 18000 units

This will NOT happen, the Tribunal will rule based on the Provisions of the Laws.

The blurred images on the IREV is just what it is images, poorly captured...they are NOT valid grounds for nullification of the elections in those units.

Akwamkpuruamu:
So you didn't no that rerun was captured in inec budget?

Re-run is only conducted IF there is no clear-cut winner and it is for Num-1 and Num-2 parties.

There won't be any re-run because the APC met all the criteria for victory.

Christistruth03:
The Problem is that they completely don't allow others such powers in their own States
and Lagos is Yorubaland

If they have rejected Bianca Ojukwu who is from ordinary Enugu that is right next to Anambra how are they going to accept a Yoruba or Fulani Governor ?

This is the problem! Non-indigenes can NOT exercise such rights in their States, so this will make it look unbalanced

T8ksy:
@ bolded.............Yeah, you are quite right in your assertion but one thing is sure, yorubas will never concede an inch of her territory to some immigrants from the never risen sun.

Moreover, all other groups in the country are watching
how igbos are dragging lagos with the yorubas. No group , especially the minority groups will want to have any thing to do with them as it's certain that, the igbos will simply dominate them even in their own backyard.

I mean, if igbos can be this serious about extending their sphere of influence to a major state like Yorubas' lagos, then who among the minority groups can stop them from "colonising" their region, too.

Actually, there is nothing bad if Igbos want to be Governor or hold political posts in Lagos since we are one country with the doctrine of equality of citizens. However, it will become problematic if this concept is only applicable in one direction.

However, if non-Igbos can't exercise similar rights in Igbo States, then it will look like invasion & colonization of Lagos.


The minority tribes in the defunct Eastern Region rejected Biafra (in which Igbo will be the only majority tribe) because they understand this phenomenon earlier and better.

kettykin:
Why was Kano not a former capital of Nigeria

That is not the reason.

Although, Kano is fairly Cosmopolitan and there are many non-indigenes that have succeeded politically in Kano but the Political Climate in Kano is not favourable for Igbos to participate in the Politics of the State.

Non-indigenes with similar cultural values and common Islamic Heritage that have accepted and imbibed the Culture of Kano are allowed to participate and rise in the politics of Kano.
For instance, the Late Alh Barkin Zuwo (Nupe) and Sen Ibrahim Shekarau (Barbur) became Senators and Governors in Kano despite being non-indigenes because they have 'naturalized' as Kano people.


Tanko Yakassai and Sani Abacha are proud Kano men despite being 'non- indigenes' whose sons contested for Governorship of Kano.

nnamdi640:
All this your long story doesn't show that you really care about the indigene of the state, because of really you do, you would been fighting for it long time ago but rather you waited till now.

1) The time you wake up is your morning- Yoruba Proverb.



2) The best time to plant a tree was 20years ago, the next best time is NOW- Chinese Proverb.

Christistruth03:
Very Believable
But it is wrong to drag someone else's Ancestral Heritage like this one here below

It is not as if they really hate Yorubas per see, all these are means to an end- POWER.

It all boils down to competition for power.


The Igbos in Lagos also want to exercise powers in the State like being able to become Governors, Commissioners, Senators ,Reps and all the privileges that come with it just as the Yorubas have been doing since.

As more people invest in the Gas Sub-sector, the prices will crash further.

The same thing will eventually happen to Petrol if only we can be patient enough.

If more key players go into Refinery, Storage, Distribution and Marketing of Petroleum products, the prices of Petrol, Kerosene, Diesel , Aviation oil and Butumen will crash further.

nnamdi640:
That is your problem, you are acting as if it is only Lagos such things are happening, what about Bayelsa where the major revenue of the country is coming from, how many things did fg did for them after collecting their land for crude oil drilling. Don't used stupid excuse to forcefully collect land sold out by thesame people your are defending. The other day I went to Epe, for something which I won't disclose, in my present one of the Baale of Epe came to settle a dispute based on him selling large size of a particular land to a person and part of the land he sold entered into another person land so they have to call him to settle it

1) LASG policy doesn't involve the FG, they aren't asking for more allocations.

2) Bayelsa State is free to implement whatever laws and policies they deem fit to protect their people. The FG already made lots of concession to them e.g 13% Derivatives, NDDC, Ministry of Niger Delta Affairs, Presidential Amnesty Programs, Corporate Social Responbilities of IOC etc

3) The Lands used to build the National Stadium, Gowon Estate,FESTAC, Jakande Estate, National Theatre etc were acquired from the indigenous peoples by Gov't and don't involve you or your tribe, so I don't know why you are wailing over it.

4) The LASG sending her indigenes abroad to acquire further competitive skills or giving them grants to buy shares of companies to drive the State forward doesn't affect you in any negative way.

5) Whatever issues you or anyone has with any Baale should be sorted out in courts.


6) Every State in Nigeria is already blessed beyond description.
The negative energy you expend on fighting over Lagos should be used to discover the potentials of State and transform them into wealth and development.

OFCOZ I KNO OF 3PPLE

1} JT TOM WEST..KNOWN FOR ACTIN ACTION MOVIES AND PLAYING ROLE OF CRIMINAL
HE DIED DURING A BREAK ON A MOVIE SET IN EARLY 2000s WHEN HE DROVE OUT WITH HIS CAR
AND WAS INVOLVED IN CAR ACCIDENT

2} A PRODUCER KNOWN AS CHEROKEE.....HE DIED OF
ACCIDENTAL DISCHARGE DURING A SET ALSO EARLY 2000...THOUGH I CANT RECALL D NAME
OF D MOVIE. IT WAS ALSO DEDICATED TO HIM

3} UZOR NDUBUIZU...DO U REMEMBER D TALL AND HANDSOME YOUNG GUY DAT ACTED "THE PRICE OF PEACE"...THOUGH HE
DIDNT DIE ON A SET BUT HE HAD A MOVIE TO ACT THAT SAME WEEK HE DIED...ABOUT 3 OR 4YRS AGO HE WAS PLAYIN FOOTBALL
WITH HIS FRIENDS WHEN HE STARTED COMPLAINING OF TIREDNESS SO HE LEFT D PITCH TO GO AND REST A LITTLE UNDER A
TREE WHERE HE LAID DOWN AND PASS OUT.

JT Tom West was my favourite actors twenty years ago! May his soul rest in peace

IkeIgboNiile:
Because those lazy fvckers can't maintain the properties they took from the igbos.

Same thing will to lagos, if they continue on this path. Non wealth creators can't manage wealth.

Why this almost constant and predictable phenomenon that all threads on Nairaland and now Tweeter must always end up with Igbos?

Igbos build Lagos, Igbos develop Port Harcourt, Igbos control the economy of Abuja, They are jealous of Igbos, other Nigerians are lazy, dirty and depend on Government except Igbo, 'They hate Igbos', Only Igbos are Wealth Creators,Igbos are in this and that State, They want to demolish these houses because the owners are Igbos, the law/policy is targeted at Igbos bla bla bla.


Must you involve your tribe in every discussion?

nnamdi640:
I won't be surprise if this places you are talking about are dominated by Yorubas because as of the time those estates were set up the non indigene then we're not so much interested except for non indigene that came from that same south west.

Oga rest.

Whether they are dominated by Yoruba, Togolese or Ebira, does it negate the fact that the indigenes of these towns/villages should not be denied the right to laying claims to their ancestral lands like all other Nigerians?

Does it stop their children from getting LASG scholarships and employment?

Does it stop LASG from sponsoring their descendants abroad to acquire modern skills in AI, ICT, Aviation ,STEM and other areas to be better equipped to compete in the ever changing World?

Canada, USA and Australia have special 'packages' for the indigenous peoples, what is bad if LASG took into the plights of the indigenes of the State?

nnamdi640:
It is understandable when there is a good reason for doing that, but when you do that just because Obi won Lagos or because of mere propaganda then you should expect the worst from the people, this time it might lead to tribal unrest because your people in other states will bear the consequences. If you guys really know the demage you are causing your fellow Yoruba in other people's state, you won't even go near the thing you are doing now. Believe me even if the governor should come up with a good reason to revoke people's land in this present time, people will till see it as the wickedness you guys have in mind against non indigenes, beside you can't collect one person land and you now decided to spear that of a man from Ogun just because he is a Yoruba man, the fact still remains that a man from Ogun is also a non indigene. You guys just have to be careful with your actions.

You are crying foul when none exist.


There is no law that has been enacted but you are already enumerating on the side effects and target of the fixated law.

However, LASG can and should protect her indigenes for instance, the descendants of Mosan ,Okunola and Ipaja whose ancestral lands were acquired to build Gowon Estate , Shagari Estate and Jakande Estate can be identified and their children placed on Scholarships. The LSPDC in partnership with PPP can redevelop some of these places and give them some blocks after usage for 30years.

lexy2014:
Offpoint.

who is lagos state trying to protect its indigenes from?

who are lagos indigenes?

The LASG protecting the interests of their indigenes doesn't have to be from other people.

The State has a right to protect their indigenes and cultural heritage.

nnamdi640:
When 99years reach, tell your governor to collect it back.

The Government can even revoke it today if there is an overriding PUBLIC interest.

I hope you know that Ikorodu Road, Funsho Williams Avenue, many of the Jakande Estates, Stadia and many Public Monuments were built on the Ancestral Family lands (including Ancestral Compounds) of certain people?

I remember around 1989/1990 some people made a riot to prevent the construction of the road from Iyana-Ipaja to Idimu because the construction would pass through a sacred burial ground in which their ancestors were buried ,including a revered king.

Many of the older indigenes were emotional and shed tears when Gov Raji Rasaki came to the areas with 'Godogodo Soldiers' to whip the protesting Villagers and ordered bulldozers to level the place up.

lexy2014:
very good. so who is lagos state trying to protect its indigenes from.

who are lagos indigenes

This is like a father who makes a New Year Resolution that he will henceforth be more proactive in the protection of the interests of his children and the children of his neighbours start wailing and protesting over his resolution

kingsways:
An Indian is British Prime Minister

A Pakistani is Mayor of London

Even a Yoruba man is a Mayor in Colorado

And Yet some stewpid Speaker want to pass some stewpid bill to protect his own stewpidity

In the UK, the settled Indians don't advocate for abolishment of the British Monarchy or House of Lords. I haven't seen a British Indian in the UK who doesn't speak English or denigrate the British Culture.

The interests of British Citizens are well protected e.g the Tuition Fees of British Citizens are lower than Non-Citizens.


In Nigeria, Anambra and Abia States have once sacked non-indigenes in their State Civil Service.


There was no single non-indigenes in the Administration of Peter Obi as Governor of Anambra State.

Promismike:
if innocent is from the north or west, The kind of government back up and support he will be getting eee.

Tribalism remains the major problem of Nigeria.

Ndi Victim Mentality.

It is Government that that been buying Innoson vehicles.



How many families in Anambra State patronize Innoson vehicles? Even in Nnewi, there are more Toyota, Nissan and Honda on the streets than Innoson vehicles.

naptu2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKMmOUyg6xA


Innoson Vehicles @innosonvehicles



https://twitter.com/innosonvehicles/status/1666753774168289281

Nigerians ,Private Sector,State and FG should rally round Innoson and help to produce adequate number of affordable vehicles for the country.

Innoson should also liase with Iron & Steel Manufacturers in Nigeria to produce suitable alloys that can replace imported components of the vehicles to drive down the prices so that average Nigerians can afford them.

lomprico:
Is Lagos a country or a stare?

This country eh!

Even idiots from gbagan and ikoke-ekiti are claiming lagosians.

Shithole people in a shithole country

1) Every State thrive to protect the interests of their indigenes

2) In 2015, the whole of Anambra State kicked against the Transfer of certain Prisoners from the North to Nigerian Prison , Ekwulobia, Anambra State.

3) Most Southern States kicked against RUGA in their States.

jmoore:
I support the law protecting indigenous people.

Tinubu is not an indigene of Lagos state, same as FFK and Bayo Onagugaraga.

An indigene of Ogun state residing in Lagos is like an indigene of Sokoto or Abia residing in Lagos. If the indigenes of Lagos were protected, Tinubu would not have migrated from Iragbiji to displace and lord over the indigenes of Lagos.

The Government of Lagos will determine who is an indigene of Lagos and who is not.

gidgiddy:
If every ethnic group were to enact laws to protect themselves and their lands from outsiders, then where is this "one Nigeria" people keep talking about?

Does one Nigeria stop at the entrance to my village and begin at the exit?

Reno Omokiri is talking about indigenous rights in America and Canada, has he ever heard of anyone saying 'one America' or 'one Canada'? They dont say that because no such thing exists, their unity is based give and take

But it is only in Nigeria that people will be shouting 'one Nigeria' from morning till night but will be angry when you call Lagos no mans land. One Nigeria means that we all own the land

But you shout 'one Nigeria' and tell me the land belongs to you? If you own your land and I own my land, where then is one Nigeria? On the moon? Let us all agree that 'one Nigeria' is a fraud


The hypocrisy in Nigeria is higher than Mount Everest

If Lagos say they want to protect their indigenes, how does this become a problem for the Igbos?

SOSinNigeria:
Oil companies are mining crude oil in Niger Delta but their head offices and tax is paid in Lagos. Yet you want to come from Osun and still have the guts to call someone from Niger Delta like me non indigene?

God punish you primitive bigots!

Oil Companies are Private Companies who , like all other Private Companies are at liberty to have their Headquarters anywhere they like

They also drill for oil in Lagos (Aje Oil Fields) and Ondo State

SOSinNigeria:
If the bill is to protect only LAGOS INDIGENES, then it's fine. However, if you want to elevate tribal discrimination and make it law, just know that your aims of destroying Nigeria has become open secret!

You can't come from Osun state and call another person from Rivers non indigenes. You guys should continue showing your hands, Nigerians are watching keenly!

Why wailing over Lagos? Leave Lagos Affairs to the People of Lagos and face your State squarely.

nnamdi640:
Law wey no go carry water. You can't sell your land to someone else and still want to claim ownership. Hope the court will do the needful when you try any rubbish. What am seeing is people that want to shoot their own selves, this will make other states to target your own people.

ALL Lands in every State belong to the State Government.
This is why the Governor of every State issue to everyone occupying any parcel of land, a certificate of OCCUPANCY for a maximum of 99 years .