₦airaland Forum

nnamdi640:
It is understandable when there is a good reason for doing that, but when you do that just because Obi won Lagos or because of mere propaganda then you should expect the worst from the people, this time it might lead to tribal unrest because your people in other states will bear the consequences. If you guys really know the demage you are causing your fellow Yoruba in other people's state, you won't even go near the thing you are doing now. Believe me even if the governor should come up with a good reason to revoke people's land in this present time, people will till see it as the wickedness you guys have in mind against non indigenes, beside you can't collect one person land and you now decided to spear that of a man from Ogun just because he is a Yoruba man, the fact still remains that a man from Ogun is also a non indigene. You guys just have to be careful with your actions.

You are crying foul when none exist.


There is no law that has been enacted but you are already enumerating on the side effects and target of the fixated law.

However, LASG can and should protect her indigenes for instance, the descendants of Mosan ,Okunola and Ipaja whose ancestral lands were acquired to build Gowon Estate , Shagari Estate and Jakande Estate can be identified and their children placed on Scholarships. The LSPDC in partnership with PPP can redevelop some of these places and give them some blocks after usage for 30years.

lexy2014:
Offpoint.

who is lagos state trying to protect its indigenes from?

who are lagos indigenes?

The LASG protecting the interests of their indigenes doesn't have to be from other people.

The State has a right to protect their indigenes and cultural heritage.

nnamdi640:
When 99years reach, tell your governor to collect it back.

The Government can even revoke it today if there is an overriding PUBLIC interest.

I hope you know that Ikorodu Road, Funsho Williams Avenue, many of the Jakande Estates, Stadia and many Public Monuments were built on the Ancestral Family lands (including Ancestral Compounds) of certain people?

I remember around 1989/1990 some people made a riot to prevent the construction of the road from Iyana-Ipaja to Idimu because the construction would pass through a sacred burial ground in which their ancestors were buried ,including a revered king.

Many of the older indigenes were emotional and shed tears when Gov Raji Rasaki came to the areas with 'Godogodo Soldiers' to whip the protesting Villagers and ordered bulldozers to level the place up.

lexy2014:
very good. so who is lagos state trying to protect its indigenes from.

who are lagos indigenes

This is like a father who makes a New Year Resolution that he will henceforth be more proactive in the protection of the interests of his children and the children of his neighbours start wailing and protesting over his resolution

kingsways:
An Indian is British Prime Minister

A Pakistani is Mayor of London

Even a Yoruba man is a Mayor in Colorado

And Yet some stewpid Speaker want to pass some stewpid bill to protect his own stewpidity

In the UK, the settled Indians don't advocate for abolishment of the British Monarchy or House of Lords. I haven't seen a British Indian in the UK who doesn't speak English or denigrate the British Culture.

The interests of British Citizens are well protected e.g the Tuition Fees of British Citizens are lower than Non-Citizens.


In Nigeria, Anambra and Abia States have once sacked non-indigenes in their State Civil Service.


There was no single non-indigenes in the Administration of Peter Obi as Governor of Anambra State.

Promismike:
if innocent is from the north or west, The kind of government back up and support he will be getting eee.

Tribalism remains the major problem of Nigeria.

Ndi Victim Mentality.

It is Government that that been buying Innoson vehicles.



How many families in Anambra State patronize Innoson vehicles? Even in Nnewi, there are more Toyota, Nissan and Honda on the streets than Innoson vehicles.

naptu2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKMmOUyg6xA


Innoson Vehicles @innosonvehicles



https://twitter.com/innosonvehicles/status/1666753774168289281

Nigerians ,Private Sector,State and FG should rally round Innoson and help to produce adequate number of affordable vehicles for the country.

Innoson should also liase with Iron & Steel Manufacturers in Nigeria to produce suitable alloys that can replace imported components of the vehicles to drive down the prices so that average Nigerians can afford them.

lomprico:
Is Lagos a country or a stare?

This country eh!

Even idiots from gbagan and ikoke-ekiti are claiming lagosians.

Shithole people in a shithole country

1) Every State thrive to protect the interests of their indigenes

2) In 2015, the whole of Anambra State kicked against the Transfer of certain Prisoners from the North to Nigerian Prison , Ekwulobia, Anambra State.

3) Most Southern States kicked against RUGA in their States.

jmoore:
I support the law protecting indigenous people.

Tinubu is not an indigene of Lagos state, same as FFK and Bayo Onagugaraga.

An indigene of Ogun state residing in Lagos is like an indigene of Sokoto or Abia residing in Lagos. If the indigenes of Lagos were protected, Tinubu would not have migrated from Iragbiji to displace and lord over the indigenes of Lagos.

The Government of Lagos will determine who is an indigene of Lagos and who is not.

gidgiddy:
If every ethnic group were to enact laws to protect themselves and their lands from outsiders, then where is this "one Nigeria" people keep talking about?

Does one Nigeria stop at the entrance to my village and begin at the exit?

Reno Omokiri is talking about indigenous rights in America and Canada, has he ever heard of anyone saying 'one America' or 'one Canada'? They dont say that because no such thing exists, their unity is based give and take

But it is only in Nigeria that people will be shouting 'one Nigeria' from morning till night but will be angry when you call Lagos no mans land. One Nigeria means that we all own the land

But you shout 'one Nigeria' and tell me the land belongs to you? If you own your land and I own my land, where then is one Nigeria? On the moon? Let us all agree that 'one Nigeria' is a fraud


The hypocrisy in Nigeria is higher than Mount Everest

If Lagos say they want to protect their indigenes, how does this become a problem for the Igbos?

SOSinNigeria:
Oil companies are mining crude oil in Niger Delta but their head offices and tax is paid in Lagos. Yet you want to come from Osun and still have the guts to call someone from Niger Delta like me non indigene?

God punish you primitive bigots!

Oil Companies are Private Companies who , like all other Private Companies are at liberty to have their Headquarters anywhere they like

They also drill for oil in Lagos (Aje Oil Fields) and Ondo State

SOSinNigeria:
If the bill is to protect only LAGOS INDIGENES, then it's fine. However, if you want to elevate tribal discrimination and make it law, just know that your aims of destroying Nigeria has become open secret!

You can't come from Osun state and call another person from Rivers non indigenes. You guys should continue showing your hands, Nigerians are watching keenly!

Why wailing over Lagos? Leave Lagos Affairs to the People of Lagos and face your State squarely.

nnamdi640:
Law wey no go carry water. You can't sell your land to someone else and still want to claim ownership. Hope the court will do the needful when you try any rubbish. What am seeing is people that want to shoot their own selves, this will make other states to target your own people.

ALL Lands in every State belong to the State Government.
This is why the Governor of every State issue to everyone occupying any parcel of land, a certificate of OCCUPANCY for a maximum of 99 years .

EmekaMD:
It strikes my imagination why INEC is being so defensive.

INEC was sued to court by the PDP and LP. It is logical for INEC to defend it's actions.

AntiTerrorist:
It is very clear to APC, INEC and Tinubu's lawyers that they cannot win this case unless the judges are corrupted. Unlike in the past, the evidence is overwhelming. At times they result to throwing tantrums and name-calling instead of reasonable argument.

Shame on Mahmud Yakubu.

You didn't read the article, you are basing your opinions on the sentimental headline.

Nothing unusual in this case.

If you have been following the Tribunal sittings, you will see that the Petitioners have no strong cases.

The PDP aren't bringing any evidence of an alternative results to show they 'won' rather they are trying to prove that the conduct of the election is wrong (The Tribunal will ask them to show how this infractions affect the overall results which they aren't showing)

The LP appear more fixated on how to disqualify Tinubu and the claim that the the conduct of election violated the electoral acts.


Both are NOT proving anything to suggest that they 'won'

mrvitalis:
Why would a business want to rent a sky scrappers that's expensive when it can rent normal office for 10%

Use u asked. Why most skyscrapers in Lagos is empty ? or why cocoa house is abandoned?

Most Skyscrapers in Lagos are occupied. Cocoa House is fully occupied by Broadcasting Stations, Telecoms Coys, different firms and it's never abandoned except during renovations.

CNG is more efficient ,a 12kg gas cylinder will last longer that 12 kg of petrol and generate less exhaust waste.It is also cheaper than Petrol

DeLaRue:
The NLC leader was beaming with smiles.

Seems he enjoyed his presence in the corridors of power so much

Supporters of the strike will be fuming when they wake up in the morning and see photos of him playing 'best friends' with the 'APC enemy'.

I've been in some of these places. Once you enter, the environment and the pampering that goes on will reset your radical plans

The hatchet job the APC guys did on him would have made Soviet Union KGB proud.

First, they attacked him in the media claiming he was working for the Labour Party.

Then, they circulated pictures of him standing with Mr Obi campaigning.

Once the guy was cornered and weak, they used an old guard of the labour union (Oshiomole) to invite him to the corridors of power for 'negotiations '.

They got him to renounce the strike.

They made sure he was comfortable in the environment and had him photographed laughing and being chummy with them.

Then they circulated the photos to the media, thereby damaging his standing in the eyes of the the most ardent supporters of a strike.

The man is probably a good upright person, but he was rather naive. Optics are very important. He should never have allowed himself photographed laughing and being chummy with APC guys. Whatever deal he agreed to behind close doors, he needed to be captured in photos in a mood that reflects that of his supporters i.e anger or, at least, frustration.

I tell you, these Tinubu boys will use all the tricks in the books to deal with their perceived enemies. It would be done so craftly that their targets would be down long before they knew what hit them.

Mr Tinubu's people are streetwise. Lagos street wise o. I suspect they are ready to go dirty if they plead with you and you refuse.

You are very naive if you think these Labour Leaders are part of the so-called Masses or that they are far from the corridors of powers.


Mike Ajaero was the former Trade Union Leader of Electricity Workers Union and one time fractional Chairman of the NLC whose faction was hurriedly recognized by the Buhar's Administration when the Ayyuba Waba authentic NLC Leadership were becoming too 'troublesome'

This was how some of the Obidents thought Lamidi Apapa, a former Trade Union Leader in the Oil &Gas Sector is a poor man!

None of these leaders of the Labour Union is a poor man and the NLC President is not new to the corridors of powers.

gidgiddy:
Telling Bini migrants to claim their heritage and declare themselves Bini people? Isnt that what they should do? Ikwerre people are Bini people, they have said they migrated from Bini, now let them declare themselves as such rather than this deceit of claiming what they are not

Bros, you have no right to tell anybody let alone any ethnic group what to do or how to behave.

Ikwerre speak their language and practice their culture, that some Igbo clans may under part of this doesn't change anything.

Ethnic groups are MAN-MADE construct and except in sparsely populated deserts, it is often difficult to determine where one ethnic group ends and where another start. There are always areas of overlap.

Travel to other parts of the world or read widely to understand that this is a worldwide phenomenon.

Wahabfuture:
I am a proud Igbo man and i will always proud of my language and my tribe, don't you think it is necessary and proud to have your language and tradition? perhaps why don't Ikwerres borrow Hause or fulani language? you guys are so shameless

The Ikwerre people speak Ikwerre language (which has about 5 dialects ) and practice their Tradition.

Some Igbo clans speak dialects that may be partially mutually intelligible with the Ikwerre Language while other Igbo clans may not hear at all...this only show that some Igbo clans and Ikwerre may be related but not necessarily mean that Ikwerre is part of the Igbo ethnic group or not.

Examples of this nature abound all over the world e.g France & Navarra, Portugal & Spain, Austria & Germany, ,Urhobo & Isoko, Efik & Ibiobio, Yoruba & Ogori/Mangogo etc

legitnow1:
Ikwerre will always be Igbo clan till tomorrow.

They are members of Ohanaeze.

Right now, because of oil from Igbo land in Obiigbo and others area in Rivers, they are claiming not to be Igbo out of greed.

What is wrong with Ikwerre is Greed and nothng else.

If you bother to be objective and read History, you will see that they have been claiming distinct identity before oil and the civil war.

1958- Ikwerre presented memo to the Willinkins Commission to look into the fears of the Minorities.

1963- Ogbakwor Ikwerre formed as an Umbrella Body of the Ikwerre

1964: Rumuobasi declaration which declared Ikwerre as being distinct from Igbo or Ijaw or Ogoni.


All the above show that the Ikwerre have been clamouring for recognization as a distinct ethnic group long before the civil war

gidgiddy:
This is not about what you prefare, this is about who Ikwerres are.

If Ikwerres acknowledge that they are descendants of Bini migrants, they should proudly come out as Bini people. No need for this deceit of claiming to be a distinct ethic group, they are not. What is distinct about migrants who went somewhere else, left their Bini language to speak the language of others?

Ikwerre are nothing but Bini people and they should be proud to come out and claim their ancestry Bini people

Look at the level of arrogance!


Why do you think you have the right to dictate to the Ikwerre what they should do or not do?

Tukpa8:
may I asked one question..?
Is ikwere an ethnicity or they originated from another ethnicity?
I did not mean originating from igbo specifically...but they at least originated from an ethnicity?

Every ethnic group originate from previously existing ethnic groups e.g

French= Romans +Frankish Germanic tribes + Gauls

Itsekiri= Yoruba +Bini+ some Ijaw + Some European explorers

Aja People= Fon + Yoruba

Mauritiuans= Asians + Bantu Black Africans

English= Anglo-Saxon tribes + Jutes + Romans+ Vikings + French

chrisxxx:
Who owns the language? Igbo might have copied Ikwerre language imperfectly.
Let me give u a prove. What is the Igbo word for 'Yes'?

Actually, it is a language continuum.
Yoruba-Bini-Itsekiri-Ukwani-Ika-Ikwerrw--Etche-Igbo.

The language continue to change slightly as you move from West to East.

hammerT:
Ikwere is a clan and not big enough to be a tribe.
If Ijaw or any other group threaten them, is when you will realise because they are running all the way for support from their people in SE region. As of today, Ikwere depend on Igbo vote every election.



Seun helps to FP this debate for good old time nairaland intractions.

You don't know the meaning of clans.

Within Ikwerre ,there are sub-tribes with different dialects

Rostikol:
You're very ignorant and stupid. The artwork is based on historical eyewitness accounts, archaeological evidence, and actual observation of the Benin moat which is is STILL IN EXISTENCE TODAY, YOU BLASTED MOR.O.N.

Get lost. If you want go see the devastated palace remains, go on Google and see it.

There are surviving pictures of Oba Dosunmu in Lagos of the 1860s, so you can show us 1897 pictures of the Palace of Oba of Benin.

Spy360:
I feel that most Yorubas (except a few godly ones) love to protect their own even if they know he is a criminal. Like the way they supported a drug lord becoming president and depending his crime.

Restrict your frustrations to the outcome of the election.

The victim was a Yoruba man, the Radio Station that blew the case widely open is owed by Hafeez Oriyomi, the Prosecuting Law Firm (Falana & Falana) is owned by Yorubas, the Chief Judge of Osun State who sentenced them to death ,Justice Ojo is a Yoruba woman, so carry your loser-induced frustration away from here.

henkey:
And this the Man that came to Court with Prado Jeep and Security guards,
The look at his dirty Rubber footwear on the floor.
Ask yourself how did he get rich overnight.?
Who is sponsoring him.?

Most of the supporters of Peter Obi are like programmed Robots that just start propagating anything they are fed by the propaganda leaders of the Headless Mob without using their Thinking Faculty.

1) The man here is NOT Pa Lamidi Apapa. He is younger and Pa Lamidi Apapa is thinner (due to advanced age) than this 'robust cheeks' man.

2) There is nothing to suggest that this is Labour Party Secretariat.

3) Pa Lamidi Apapa was a Trade Union Leader in the Oil &Gas Sector for years (NUPENG) and a former Labour Party Gubernatorial candidate in Oyo State in 2007.
He is not a poor man as these kids are suggesting.


All the Leaders of Trade Unions and Labour Party are far richer than they appear,even ordinary SUG Presidents now ride in SUVs

Spy360:
I feel that most Yorubas (except a few godly ones) love to protect their own even if they know he is a criminal. Like the way they supported a drug lord becoming president and depending his crime.

Restrict your frustrations to the outcome of the election.

The victim was a Yoruba man, the Radio Station that blew the case widely open is owed by Hafeez Oriyomi, the Prosecuting Law Firm (Falana & Falana) is owned by Yorubas, the Chief Judge of Osun State who sentenced them to death ,Justice Ojo is a Yoruba woman, so carry your loser-induced frustration away from here.

Bulldozer90:
This is the tribalism they are talking about. The op raised a question without mentioning a particular tribe. Respondents across ethnic and religious divides mentioned a particular ethnic group. Instead learning how to become more receptive to non Yorubas, you a starting another cycle of tribalism.

The Topic is about TRIBES and post is also about TRIBES.


You can make your inferences anyhow you want, that's your headache.

proeast:
What wrong impression? You're defending this gross injustice because you're a yorubaman and you think it benefits you.

Minimum wage is uniform across Nigeria but fuel will be cheapest in SW?!

Do you know the multiplier effect of having fuel cheap in the SW and expensive in other parts of Nigeria? That extra 57 naira on each litre would amount to hundreds of billions lost in other parts of Nigeria, particularly NE. It will lead to further job losses in those regions. Lead to things being more expensive there than in SW. It will also lead to massive relocation of people from the disadvantaged states to the SW. Are you willing to accept that huge influx? Won't you guys start feeling insecure as you're already doing with Igbos and Hausas?

You can't pay same minimum wage and sell fuel cheaper in SW. Never!

Minimum wages are different from States to States.

With deregulation, Marketers can fix their own prices.


ProEast can be buying Petrol from Dangote in Lagos at #255 per Litre and transportat the Petrol over 500 km in 48hrs to reach Okigwe or Ekwulobia and still be selling it at #255/Litre.

proeast:
These people can be very funny. Imagine trying to justify rubbish because it favours them. They think they're wise while other Nigerians are foolish.

Imagine fuel cheaper in Ekiti state that has no drop of oil and also landlocked but more expensive in Delta and Akwa Ibom that are major oil producing states and also coastal

Imagine selling fuel at 500 in Oyo state but 540 in Kano and 557 in Maiduguiri?

Tinubu has truly proven already that he does not believe in one Nigeria. He wants to transfer Nigeria's wealth to his people completely. Imagine the audacity!

Bros, the Petrol being consumed in Nigeria are NOT from the Niger Delta but imported.

Even that template is NOT going to work because pump prices are determined by different factors and pump prices are not always the same throughout the same State e.g the prices of Petrol in Akure are slightly different from the prices in Ilaje,Igbokoda or Araromi, yet all are in Ondo State.