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trash.com.
nothing like ancestral spirit for the believer!
its unscriptural, its invention of bible charlatans!



bye!

firstEVA:
hahahahahaha, i laugh, this is not president Jonathan's administration, this is Buhari's government, Tompolo cannot be stuupid enough to try nonsense, if he dares this government, he will be wiped out to extinction and he knows it. Power has changed hands, we no longer have a president that smiles around the clock like a new bride, the earlier these boys know that, the better for them.

and if its Buhari and so?
There are rules of engagement in fighting stuffs like this if not Buhari will face the ICJ for war crimes.

This is not military era, its a democracy.
The truth is that Nigeria cannot handle two insurgent groups at the same time.

Go and ask OBJ what he went through in the hands of these militants during his regime!

gesundheit:
I wonder how any sensible person will always wish his own nation and leaders failure just for political correctness or mere tribal and clannish reasons.

Stop your sanctimonious epistle!
Wish his own nation failure...? Are you kidding me? Pls what did APC do to GEJ?

They wished him all the failings and bad in this world!

Even in the fight against boko haram, they so politicized it until it seemed as though GEJ purposely didn't want Boko haram gone. Now, they are beginning to blame the same USA that GEJ blamed for withholding arms!


This is not a tribal thing. It is holding him to his campaign promises!

PMB promised public assets declaration, where is it?
Promised to hit the ground running, he hasn't hit the ground yet, let alone run.

Eradicate Boko haram within a short period- boko haram is eradicating people within short periods.

Monthly Salary for unemployed youths and the elderly- all forgotten.

Am I supporting GEJ? No, but you shouldn't expect peace when you used "campaign of lies and over bloated manifesto to enter office"!

GspotAngela:
...... So tompolo an illiterate Ijaw thug would be the one that will lead you to Biafra whilst namdi kanu the radio Biafra scammer chills in the comfort of the UK. How low have the ibos sunk

The fact that one person made a comment doesn't mean you should call out a whole tribe!

Is he the spokesperson of the igbo nation?
Must you insult in order to communicate?

dustmalik:
Good, because we have been looking for who to use as target practice. Let them bring on the war.

Target practice you didn't do with boko haram and shekau, it is Tompolo and mend?

Goodluck with that!

annyplenty:
You are absolutely free to comment whatever you wish. We will be judged according to all things we do or say or write. Our Lord, Jesus Christ, Himself was accussed of casting out demons by belzeebub, the prince of satan.

Now, let me address your assertions.

1. I quoted scriptures to back up the vision. I quoted Joel 2 and mentioned Revelations 16:3, 1 Timothy 4:1 for your reference.
Besides, if truely you believe we are in the end-time and The Lord, Jesus Christ, warned us there will be so many false prophets who will do false miracles, and they are already everywhere, which power do you think they will be using if they are not from God? Yet you did not quote a single scripture to back all your rejections of the message.

2. The last days began at pentecost with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit but will culminate with coming coming of the Lord Jesus Christ at rapture. The bible called it 'last days', not just one single day. the days began at pentecost and will end at rapture.

3. It is scriptural if God gives vision like this. read ezekiel 8 and see how God showed ezekiel all manners of abomination people were doing including weeping for talmuz and worshipping sun.

4. You stated there is no witchcraft poured out and yet the behaviours of many people is contrary to that.

You quoted scriptures out of point sir! Check throughout the
new testament and tell me how many apostles saw the
vision of the devil winning on earth but sadly that's what is
prevalent in the christendom today!

Galatians 5:19-21;

Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual
immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery,
enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions,
divisions, envy, drunkenness, SinParties;

Now, did you notice it said "works of the flesh" not "works
of the devil"?
Drunkenness is the work of the flesh and not work of the
devil.

If that is true with drunkenness according to the bible, then
look at verse 20, the second word- sorcery, meaning
witchcraft! Some translations used witchcraft!

It is not the devil that pours out the spirit of drunkenness,
it is also not the devil that pours out the spirit of witchcraft!
It is men that do it and the devil takes advantage of the
witches craft!

Oga sir, there is a difference between unclean spirits coming out of the mouth of the dragon and spirit being poured out! The devil cannot pour out spirit upon the world!
He is a fallen angel! Angels don't have such powers!

I also need to educate you on the book of revelations! Its not a book you should quote to support your gory visions!
The visions in that book are specific and for specific purposes. It is not the revelation of the end time but the revelation of Christ!

STOP scaring people with the book of revelation! You must have to quote the book in context. You can't just isolate a verse to support your "vision". Go through the entire book and chapters to have an understanding of the book.

The devil is a created being and doesn't have an infinite
spirit inherent in him that he can pour out!
We should stop painting the devil as though he is
competing with God or as though he is the next strongest
after God!

God bless sir!

hinwazaka:
I stand by my assessment that you are the most opaque analyst on this forum. Readers never get what you are saying. You are neither here nor there. May you turn a new leaf

You are absolutely correct!

StOla:
Would Buhari proceed to Onitsha market to look for an Igbo man to hand over to? Or is it no longer the winner of a presidential election that incumbent hand over to?

Now that I've defined who can be handed over to, what are Igbos doing to get votes in other regions of the country, since the SE alone cannot elect a majority winner?

Is it by marketing hate all over the country and denigrating the very people whose votes can actualise the Igbo presidency?

Is it by labelling every Igbo politician who is smart enough not to be an ethnic local champion as a traitor?

Is it by your established notoriety as the "my brother" nepotists that will reassure Nigerians that the Igbo are politically enlightened enough to rule a heterogeneous society?

My friend stop with this one sided analysis already!
Tell me what Obasanjo did to garner vote for himself?
1999, he was virtually instituted by the powers that be.

Who generates more hate pls? Igbos? An igbo man would live and interact naturally with some from any ethnic group.

Check other tribes and see the hates they have against the igbos for no reason!

Did you people not label Jimi Agbaje for his PDP choice? Did you not label Femi-kayode? Did you not label Sambo for his PDP choice?

Check the percentage of vote that the SW gave PMB, its nothing compared to the North! So don't come here and start spilling ethnic sentiments.
After all, in 2011, GEJ won the election against PMB, the fact that PMB won it now doesn't make the SWs special!

Don't go denigrating any tribe or lifting one tribe above another!

doctokwus:
I normally totally ignore stupid mentions;but I make an exception to give u this advice:opposition to a govt or even support for it does not mean one looses his/her common sense.At the rate ur type is going with your self-invested toga of nland PMB opposition,it makes u always come out so childish and stupid that engaging u in any form of debate makes no common sense @all.

My friend go and give the advice to APC!
APC supports even the unsupportable and opposes even the unopposable!

They lie, manipulate, condemn, threaten and twist just to oppose! Give that advice to APC, they need it most!

If something is done by PDP, they condemn it but if the same thing is done by APC, they praise it!

PentiumPro:
Next trash.
Face the reality or keep wailing. When Jonathan was funding PDP states through inappropriate means, where were you and your sanctimony.
Nonsense.

Pls which inappropriate means did he fund PDP states? Tell us. Most of the nation's fund during GEJ went to the north! Go and find check!

It was centered around the rehabilitation of the almajiri's!
Pls tell us the means he funded them!

doctokwus:
He said that those who voted him 97% and ensured that their votes counted deserve more from the govt,which is the political reality,but that he has vowed to be for everybody and for nobody;that besides that the constitution has guaranteed that each state is represented in the govt.
To me his answer both states the truth and also the reality of the political situation while guaranteeing that he won't victimize any region because of it.
The reality is that while no region would be victimized,there must be political reward for others taking the right political decision and sacrificing to ensure that that decision is made to count at the ballot.

No right thinking democrat should ever make such statements!
If he ever made this statement (which I strongly doubt), that makes him the most stupid president the world ever produced!

PentiumPro:
There should be consequences for voting wrongly and there should be reward for voting wisely.
Not doing that will be a disservice for those that made the right judgment.

What government do you think we are practicing? dictatorship? Which means people that didn't vote for Obama should be treated wrongly.

And We wonder why Nigeria is this terrible when young people like you think like this!

Smh!

bankyman:
I have really tried to read without commenting even when some people make very annoying and spurious statement...... This thread on two fronts is trying to assert claims by PMB on the American Govt's cabinet build up and on the other showing how truly classless and low life people have become (Barcanista alone for now, as he spearheads anti-PMB campaign trying to make it look as if he does a thorough job and creating an illusion of a good opposition). In my opinion below:

Firstly and most gravely he tries to counter every PMB action or inaction without properly weighing its pros and cons. For the feeble and empty minded it seems very ok. Anyone with the slightest of brain either laughs off his jokes or get angry at his antics in making of an opposition (in his mind). You don't have to always criticize to be in the opposition, you can give areas of improvement to show class or just keep quiet when they have it right. To fight you need to look for weak points not create illusions, it drops you in the middle of the circus.

Secondly, you don't have to be in opposition though every institution needs checks but it also needs a helping hand. Who would help the government if we all go into the opposition camp? In his mind, he never thought of the other way the glass cup is (it could be half filled of half empty). If truly he was a progressive, his campaign should not have started yet.

Thirdly, What gives one out as a mediocre is the ability to not being able to exercise patience, with all the tantrums Barcanista and his goons have thrown around, it shows complete mediocrity and shallowness in their thinking faculty. Astonishingly, he is degrading as the days pass. To be able to critically assess a person, government or institution, you need to patiently watch and wait for outcomes of their actions or inactions before analysing and reaching a conclusion. What they do when they see any information on the present government is to go and google for contradictions and come on Nairaland to claim the govt. is bad....What a shame! Jonathan was the most insulted president I guess and it did not start from day one, eyes were opened and patience lost when it dawned on the populace that govt. was lackadaisical to the Chibok girl incidence or did not believe it happened at all. Lets not get into specifics for now.

I have only written about one aspect of the two points mentioned as the Op did a good job on the initial point.

Sir, with respect, your write-up smacks of hypocrisy!

What type of opposition did APC play? Constructive one? Never! They lied, forged, cajoled, lied again and again, threatened, intimidated, insulted etc and now its their turn they want civilized opposition? Interesting!

PDP learnt from APC! They are simply paying them back in their own coins.

Look at the aspect of public declaration assets, APC used it as a campaign strategy against GEJ, saying PMB and his vice would make their assets public, but what happened?

They have vehemently refused to let the public know their worth! Why?
Pls stop painting APC in a saintly manner, APC and PDP are simply two sides of the same coin!

emusmith:
That vision is Real.

It's obvious you're not acquainted with the book of Revelations. But it's ok.

All you read is the Epistles... That's ok.

In Luke 10:17-20, Jesus prized going to heaven than casting out devils.

A lot to say...what's the point?

That vision is unscriptural and not from God.
I have given you scriptural references but you prefer the "vision" of men than the word of God. This is how most Christians are deceived.

Go and read that revelation he quoted! It has nothing to do with the vision he gave! An angel poured forth a bowl, which angel is that? Devil? Nooo. God's angel.

study and investigate the scripture! Don't just read your mind into the bible.
Luke 10:17-20; rejoice rather that your name is written in heaven- what does that mean? Where in heaven are their names written? In the lamb's book of life!

This is not about entering heaven but about believing in Jesus!

That his vision is even satanic because it exalts witchcraft more! As though they are winning on earth. Noooo. Christ is winning!
Exalt Christ and his finished works not one nonsense vision that one person saw that is unbiblical!

This is why many gullible Christians are running to so-called visioneers and are massively deceived!

One with mental problem said she saw Bimbo Odukoya and Idahosa in hell.

If after believing in Jesus and proclaiming Jesus as my Lord and savior, you find me in hell, know that Jesus is there with me!

emusmith:

Those things you mentioned are not the prerequisite to heaven

Jesus said, "Many will say, didn't we cast out demons in Your name and did many mighty works" And ironically, He will deny knowing them.
Why? They were not in His Will.



That's BTW...What's your assertion to ruling out the point of the op?
Vision and dreams are FALSE if they're not in line with the Word but he backed it up with Scriptures?

Do you put your church doctrines above the Word( whether your denomination believes in them or not?)

I need reasonable, scriptural answers.

Prerequisite? Jesus said "these signs shall follow them that believe, in my name they shall cast out devil...". Casting out devil and speaking in tongues is a sign of a believer!

He quoted scriptures out of point sir! Check throughout the new testament and tell me how many apostles saw the vision of the devil winning on earth but sadly that's what is prevalent in the christendom today!

Let's look at that passage you referred to initially Matt: 7:21-22; Jesus wasn't talking to believers sir, he was talking to the Jews who hadn't believed in him. In those days many will say to me, Lord, Lord ... In thy name have cast out devils...?

Read mark 9:38; and John answered him saying, master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name and he followeth not us..."
It was a common practice by exorcists, they used the name of Jesus to do things but didn't believe that he was the son of God.
The "will" Jesus spoke about is definite and that "will" is in John 6:28-29; "Then they said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?” Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”
The will of God is to believe in Jesus Christ!

Heaven is not the ultimate! Christ is the ultimate!
Read all through the new testament, heaven was barely mentioned as the most important thing! When a man believes in Jesus, he becomes a heavenly candidate already!

Let me further prove that guy's vision wrong before I drop.

Galatians 5:19-21;
Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual
immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery,
enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions,
divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies;

Now, did you notice it said "works of the flesh" not "works of the devil"?
Drunkenness is the work of the flesh and not work of the devil.
If that is true with drunkenness according to the bible, then look at verse 20, the second word- sorcery, meaning witchcraft! Some translations used witchcraft!

It is not the devil that pours out the spirit of drunkenness, it is also not the devil that pours out the spirit of witchcraft! It is men that do it and the devil takes advantage of the witches craft!

The devil is a created being and doesn't have an infinite spirit inherent in him that he can pour out!
We should stop painting the devil as though he is competing with God or as though he is the next strongest after God!

God bless sir!

emusmith:
Wow, are you a believer?

Yes sir! A believer, filled with the Holy Spirit, tongue talking and demon-chasing!

The quantum of ignorance amongst Christians is chagrin!

The OP quoted a "vision" to support his assertion instead of the bible and this is why none Christians don't take us seriously because we have made the word of God of no effect by our traditions, dreams and visions.

The passage of the bible you quoted, "in the last days, says the Lord, I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh...", God didn't say "I will keep pouring out my spirit", he said "I will pour" and He has already done that in the book of Acts chapter 2, more than 2000 years ago.

If your assertions are true that a witchcraft spirit was poured out to counterfeit God's own, when did the devil do it? 2000 years ago or 2014?

If its 2014, why did he have to wait for more than 2000 years to counterfeit God?
If its 2000 years ago, why is God telling us about it in 2014?

Stop telling God's people this type of nonsense! There is no witchcraft poured out in the world. The devil has no such power- he is a created being and doesn't have infinite Spirit resident in him!

You went to a crusade in your vision and all the people including the pastor had witchcraft spirit? You were the only one not have the spirit? You need chloroquine injection for your celebral malaria!


Go and read your bible and stop looking for visions, its the easiest way for deception! Any vision that is not deeply rooted in the new testament is NONSENSE!

Therefore this post is capital TRASH!

Chibuhealth:
must u quote me? F;ool

Fool? I think you are better than all these hates you exhibit!
You are better than this!

Burger01:
^^^
Jonathan is the cause of this nonsense.

Btw, they will know soon enough that this new government is not a government of laxity. We are waiting

Pls wise one, do tell. How is GEJ the cause of this "nonsense"?

Midehi:
*singing* *cut your coat according to your cloth.


broke guys always go for classless babes, so i dont think its a crime to visit such places cos they are both brokers

So class is synonymous with money?
Class is about mentality, character, communication, mannerisms!
Money only amplifies a person's character, It doesn't give character!

Jorussia:
then let the rerun be done for him to prove his popularity.

Should there be a rerun for PMB too sir?

franchizy:
If I were the governor I will rather keep quiet than spew this trash.
According to the 1999 constitution as amended, the recommendation is to be sent to the NJC and not the CJN.
The NJC approves. More so, vacation has nothing to do with the NJC as majority of them remains on sit except for the judges.
I'm worried that a governor who is a lawyer does not know what to do.
Nyesom is the first sitting governor in Nigeria to have visited the CJN.
In few weeks we do hope the tribunal will do the needful.

Did you read the part that says the CJN is also the chairman of NJC?

shaqhead:
How do u propose that this matter b handled "carefully and with caution"?

Dude whether it was a political, religious or spiritual conspiracy is not the issue! How come he held the knife and the yam and he is telling us that a part of the yam is rotten? If its not his fault, it was his problem! That "Bokoharam are in my govt" statement smacks off culpability on the part of GEJ when u juxtapose that with Azazi's!

Are we saying that GEJ ddnt kno ds "revelations" from his NSA or was he banking on "I wl get to them after I get a 2nd term"?. No matter the can of worm that gets opened up, GEJ wl factor in actively or passively cos the folks wt bloodied hands wined and dined wt him!

Whoevr is complicit should face the law!

Your assertions are biased and prejudicial!
You are already pointing fingers! Have you asked yourself what if PMB is directly or indirectly involved?

What if the people that sponsored his campaign are involved? Don't you know that might make him complicit?

I said "caution and carefulness" because state matters are not handled in a blanket manner! Its not black and white.

There are certain cabals who are capable of de-stabilizing this nation and as such you can't put out their information to the public just like that because of their massive followership and influence!
You may have to device other means like cutting down their influence and surgically going after their army (boko haram) without giving them any hint that you know they are the sponsors or beneficiaries!

There are certain security revelations that might give rise to civil war or cessation!

strongerthaneva:
Man am in love with ur comments..pls fire them more this ur bomb for the wailers is.not enuf yet they all.must die in fire and neva exist till nigeria get shapes..i hate them with passion..All u wailing wailers u all are bunch of useless biggot..till the end of the world u all will not be found anymore for the best interest of nigeria..

Look at how despotism and dictatorship were born! This is the type of reasoning that produced boko haram!

So because someone doesn't share the same political view with you means that he should die?

You carefully avoided commenting on the post and making any reasonable contribution rather you chose to spew hate filled words!

You need evaluation!

shaqhead:
Ofcourse there are certain informations that wouldnt be in d public domain until a case is instituted in court that is why the items mentioned by d DSS to d press doesnt amount to the whole information of this case.

My position is simple, goin by d piece of information that there are diverse hands including loyalists of this government prevailing on Dasuki not to go to court because they fear been found out, if Dasuki doesnt go to court, the DSS should build and institute a case against him.

Truth is whether there are people in this govt who are loyal to this govt or not and they have hands with blood they should be arrested and prosecuted.

Are we not back to the "BokoHaram are in my govt" days of d past govt where GEJ knew certain things but chose silent complicity?

Are u advocating that this matter be swept under d carpet because of some information that might rock this nation?
If you are, I wl say maybe you should go to those bearing the brunt of the callousness of ds few and tell them that!

Swept under the carpet? No sir!
But should be treated extra caution and carefulness!

"Boko haram in my government"- government includes state, federal and local. Also includes legislative, judiciary and executive.

I have always maintained that boko haram is more of a political entity than a religious one. Some people are using it to fester instability and you will be shocked how many politicians that have knowingly or unknowingly benefited from its menace!

shaqhead:
What is left of your watery analysis?

Anyway lets add the epic "Bokoharam are in my government" comment by GEJ!

Its now obvious why the northern elites never wanted GMB presidency!

Azazi's words ring true and GEJ was one pesin dt is scared of his wife talk more of some "forces of darkness"!

Stop harping on this "loyalists of this govt" thing...like Nigerians/PMB care. Whoever is complicit should be exposed and prosecuted!

Pls sir, who are the northern Elites that never wanted PMB's presidency?

I for one really doubt whether most people read this post at all!

The only allegations the DSS has come up with against Dasuki are: the vehicles found, the guns and the military guards in his compound!

The "revelations" are from a source saying that certain people are telling Dasuki not to go to court so as not to making damning revelations against them! And these people include people who are loyal to this government!

I have to say at the point that not all state security informations are for public consumption. People who are in Intelligence will tell you the same thing!

There are certain revelations that can rock the stability of this nation and as such not many people are privy to such information!

philips70:
It is obvious somebody is twisting stories to deceive and complicate issues here. Dasuki was the NSA up till some few days ago for Christ sake. How many died under his watch as a NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER? He has some damning evidence and kept away from the C-in-C he served and allowed thousands to die? He will die in jail for it and that's purely treasonable felony if true.

They just think all Nigerians are fools. This so called democracy is rubbish. Who would dare all these in a military regime?

"twisting stories"?
So you chose the part the story to believe and the one not to meanwhile they are from the same source?

Smh!

Clerverly:
You See Why The Wailing Wailers are the Most Useless Set of Human Beings? So Dasuki had all the "damning evidence" yet he and his former Master, jondaftt allowed Boko Haram to fester unchecked for the past 6 years thereby leading to the death of over 20000 Nigerians? Who does he think he is fooling? Buhari or Nigerians?

I can now authoritatively confirm, that Jonathan actually Sponsored Boko Haram to wipe out the people of North East as many people claimed!

Nonsense!!

If you had taken out time to read the post you will notice where he said people "who are loyal to the current administration", "APC", but no, you didn't take out time to do that.

You rather chose to make an illogical comment because there is no way your conclusion is from the above premise!

Assignment: read the above post again very slowly and make an intelligent conclusion this time around!

Chibuhealth:
Men?? Very stupid set of species... This time around, u av to love with ur head and not with ur hrt, do me a favor, forget that flirt, better person will locate u afterwards. Just give it a trial
if he can do such now, he wil do it in marriage also. Its too early to cry, just leave the f0ol

"very stupid set of species", "better person will locate you", look at how you contradict yourself!

Men are very stupid yet a better man will locate her, from what species please?

It is unintelligent to make this type of generalization!

inimes:
There is no peace for the wicked. No condition (whether good or bad) is permanent. Mr Obua never believed that one day soon he would be arrested and incarcerated by his own agency. There is always a time of recompense for the wicked. Tell them to use their offices or positions with sympathy for the common Nigerians and they will disregard your good advice. They do not know that God is still the God of the oppressed. If Obua's hands were clean nobody would have arrested him. Let the arrest continue so that people can imbibe some values in their way of life. Nigeria was fast turning into an animal kingdom where no law is obeyed by the rich class and the socialists.

Who and who did he oppress?
Did PMB not oppress people during his last regime?

Is common sense now a difficult thing in this country?

omenka:
If indeed anything has happened to the man, searchlights should be pointed in Jonathan's direction. It might be a plot to ensure the man doesn't sing.

Did you just reason this out? I mean, did this come out of your brain?

You just made me spill my tea out of shock!
I don't believe human beings can reason like this let alone an adult.

It must be ur two-year old neighbor's son that gave you this suggestion!

Bluetooth2:
Buhari is in the US meeting with Obama. The best thing a former cso to the ex-president who understands the workings of the service to do is raise a false alarm so Obama will review his case with Buhari and other future arrests.

Like I said, your lamentation is unnecessary since the false alarm is yet to be confirmed.

Bros, since its unconfirmed, how did you know its a false alarm?
You dey work for dss ni?