₦airaland Forum

Goke7:
This is the excuse PMB gave when he cancelled the Lagos rail project when he was military head of state back in the 80s. So many are yet to forgive him on that. Something tells me he is trying to redeem himself from that shameful error with the various rail projects he has been approving since he became President last year.

All you are saying is grammar, if nothing is done you guys will come up here to say the govt has no direction and is a failure.

Sometimes as Nigerians we over criticize and over analyze with nothing to show which is why we are where we are today.

No one is saying they should not do anything. Of course you must invest to bring yourself out of a recession but do it in the most productive way possible. Did Buhari cancel the metro in favour of something else more productive, employment generating, no. He did so for political reasons because of the perceived independence of the states which is the fore runner to the problems we have today in Nigeria. This is a different matter. Pure economics. The question is whether 1.8 billion dollars is best served by that project at this snapshot of a time. And for your information it is better to debate and over analyse things than to gamble. Sit down with the people and interact with them. Government is a partnership not a one way gungho trip.

jpphilips:
Huge government spending on infrastructural development stimulate the economy in recession, damn!! you don't know that?

Not if it is China. They do it all. They have an unemployed population ten times that of Nigeria, they produce EVERYTHING, and are miserly in renumeration and procurement. I have little hope it will create anything like micro economy beyond food vendors and cigarette hawkers. If the government wants the project to enhance the economy of Kano state directly, it should execute by direct labour and insist on local content. The benefits of the project are not in earnings but cost savings because all monies are in naira and it is government so will be most likely welfarist.

TonyeBarcanista:
That is to show that people of the south especially the SS DON'T know what they want

And that's why we say that the quality of the people reflects in the quality of leadership and in turn reflects on the returns of governance, 'the dividends' of democracy. The people are ultimately responsible for the government they get. The reasons why ths south has this problem can be traced to ancient Nigerian history but it has not been helped by the Nigerian state since independence. However under democracy the south is beginning to find its feet. With time pragmatism will take root and spread.

Goke7:
The value a rail project brings is un-quantifiable, your argument does not hold water. Its like saying a road project in an hamlet or village is not viable. Very funny

Timing. I know the value of infrastructure but I also know the value of resource management and when things are this critical you have got to consider your options properly and prioritise. Do you know the value of the dollar next year or the price of oil. If you can't then you should eject sentiments from your psyche and spend cautiously. That's all.

EazyMoh:
goke7 9jii yomz1e
First of all you can't claim Kano more than me. My dad was a true Bakano, though I now use Jigawa state. I presently permanently live in Kano. So my comment is out of love I have for the state.
Am not saying the rail system is a bad idea, what am saying it's a misplaced priority. FYI the rail is only gonna move within Kano metropolis, so it's not gonna affect movement of products as some of you claim.
With the newly built flyovers in the city, there's almost nowhere you can spend up to 10minutes in a traffic hold up, and the transport fare is also cheap. I can get from Yan Kaba to BUK New site with just N200 and within a short time. Compare that with last year's tomato glut when a full basket you can't lift sold for as low as N400, imagine if provision for processing was established how much the economy of the farmers and the state would have improved.
It's like the proverbial your house is on fire and you are chasing rats.

Thank you. It is not beef or chicken or turkey but mere common sense. Transport is a great force multiplier but will you buy a car, truck or van now or put the money into production of the goods you want to transport anyway. Production is down everywhere. Transport will make business more profitable. It wouldn't in itself create business. Government's priority now is to generate production, wealth before it thinks of enhancing profitability and ease of doing it. Its priority should be partnering with the privates to get people to work making stuff. Agric related infrastructure should be top priority now.

Goke7:
stop beefing, bruv, rail transport is one of the things that will easily diversify the economy as goods can be moved easily at a cheaper rate thereby having a spill effect on any state's economy.

Anything rail is a welcome idea, it brings faster development, our politicians are finally waking up to see the benefit of rail system, just wait and see when the Lagos light rail will be completed and you'll see the effects on the economy.

We should commend what's good and not pull down unnecessarily, GEJ still get commendations for reviving the rail system and I think anyone who doing the same should be applauded too.

I don't think it is beef or any other meat product but simple reality. A project that can be fundamentally important still has a question of timing because we face a situation of either or and you will have to view this in the national context or national interest since Kano state does not generate forex independently. The Federal government throguh the CBN may consider it unviable at this point in time. But what Government should be doing is not just to focus on cost saving signature projects like these only but give equal if not more emphasis on production, mass employment, export oriented projects at this point in time. Afterall 1.8 billion dollars is a heck of a lot of money in naira terms these days.

CSTR2:
$1.85b to china for a country lacking dollars and under serious economic repression? Are you sure Nigerians have sense at all?.
Why not use those monies for local construction companies even if it means much smaller projects? Kano state with millions of almajiris and widespread poverty surely has a lot of things she could do with that money instead of sending it to china.

Another point of note and like I said before, a recession is not the time to do technology transfer but provide basic nuts and bolts, brick and mortar infrastructure and except if the deal is an investment or a grant, whatever monies will be paid should remain in Nigeria by all means. This means Nigerian workers, Nigerian materials and Nigerian technology if possible. Now is not the time to bleed foreign exchange particularly on a project which has no potential to generate foreign exchange. Here I will distinguish it from what Dangote for example is doing. CBN should intervene and do due diligence that it will not be a conduit for shady deals in capital tripping.

TonyeBarcanista:
Kano state and working Governors

They always produce quality leadership because they are pragmatic, politically aware and independent minded bordering on the radical. No governor finds it easy to handle that state and must perform just to maintain control. Even military administrators never had smooth sailing thoughtless of the nepotism and godfatherism that has stifled other states.

obailala:
Over $50billion running carelessly on the streets...

In stocks. The guy has a fixed income as CEO or warreva and unless you can wait till the financial year is over, no dividends or bonuses either. He might actually be 'technically' broke as one of my friends used to say back in the uni days.

DONSMITH123:
Good Morning To All Nigerians, You Get Exactly What You Deserve!
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Hmmm... Nigeria is indeed a strange place to be! This is a country where nothing is working... education does not work, power does not work, healthcare does not work, infrastructure does not work, security does not work, the system is practically broken down, and yet we still smugly carry ourselves about as though everything is fine and ok. If you tell a Nigerian that his country is poor, he would deride you and shout down on you, meanwhile he does not even know where his next meal is coming from. This is a place where people suffer and smile, a place where self-deceit and self-delusion flourish and arrogant ignorance reign supreme. Our system is not the only thing that has broken down, our conscience, our consciousness, and all our societal values have also gone down with it. I want to state it here and now that I have no sympathy for Nigerians, we get exactly what we deserve.
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For the past 36 hours, I've received several messages from friends and foes alike, reminding me that Nigeria is in a recession and I have said nothing about it. And the question I ask is, since when did these people started noticing that Nigeria is in a recession? Was it in the first month of Buhari's reign, or his first 100 days in office, or his one year in office, or was it yesterday when the minister of finance announced it officially? Was Nigeria in recession in April 2015 when 27 states were unable to pay salary, with some of them owing for as much as 9 months? Was Nigeria in recession when we were borrowing money to survive and the economy was giving Okonjo Iweala and her team a high BP? was Nigeria in recession when 23 Million Nigerians were unemployed, 60 million behind poverty line, inflation rate 7%, foreign reserves depleted to $27 Billion with another $6 billion as pending request? Excess crude account was depleted to just $2.4 billion, we had debt profile of about N10 trillion, and over N400 billion owed to oil marketers. Why did Nigerians not scream then, why did we not show our outrage and protest that enough is enough then? Could it be because we're a docile society of people without any soul, without a will, and without a way? Like I said before, we deserve exactly what we get.
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Helloooo Nigerians! Good morning to all of you. It appears as though some of you just woke this morning but quite frankly, a number of you are still sleeping, you're somnambulising. And that is why I want to break it to you that Nigeria is not only in recession but had been in depression since god-knows-when. If you put 1999 date to it, you won't be wrong... if you say in 2010 after Jonathan took over, you will be even more correct... Whatever you say, we've always been in depression and that is why we're Nigeria, a place where nothing works.
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In the past 16 years, the past 6 years, oil price increased to an unprecedented level, and whatever growth in GDP we thought we recorded then was merely a cosmetic growth reflective of that high oil price. If you removed the high price of crude, you would have a streak of negative GDP growth as we have not been producing anything. We are a consumer economy, we have been living on oil money and using it to paper over the cracks. We should've invested in production in the knowledge that the high oil price would eventually come to an end, but we decided to increase wages and cost of running governance, we increased our spending habit and now that oil price has fallen, we can no longer sustain it because cashflow has dropped drastically.
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What is happening in Nigeria today is akin to what happened in the global economic crises of 2008, when people took loan to invest in the US House Market and when the price of houses fell, their whole investment went down with it. At least those people were trying to invest in something, our own is worse because we were just increasing our spending habit without any form of production. No business is sustainable that depends on artificial money.
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When a country spends without producing, where then are the products they spend on coming from? We import them... Brazilian hair, tissue paper, even tooth-pick... We import them. The unprecedented earnings from oil would've helped to grow our foreign reserves but because we refused to do that, our huge spending habit is now a heavy pressure on the reserve, so much so that Nigeria would collapsed in the next 2 years if we continue at our current rate of importation. This is why Buhari is placing ban on many things including food items. Anyone who truly have an understanding of these things will know that we're in a deep shit, and that the symptoms of our bad habit will only get worse. This is why Father Mbaka said recently that things will get worse; Soludo says we will have to spend about N19 trillion to come out of recession, a money we don't even have.
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This is a problem that most of us have known for a long time now. When Buhari was running for the presidency, he said, "How can Nigeria be importing virtually everything? How can we be importing even tomatoes? If I am elected, basic items like rice and tomatoes, which we have the capacity to
produce, will be banned from being imported". And I ask again, where were all these noise makers then?
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They say, oh, Buhari should wait until we're able to produce enough food items before he place any ban on them? But they forget that we spend about N1.5 trillion every year on the importation of food alone. Yet Buhari has not banned all food items, he simply has just placed restriction on the importation of rice that we can produce at home. Nigeria eats about 6 million metric tonnes of rice a year, and by 2018, we will be able to be self-sufficient in it if local production continues at the current pace. What the president has done is to create a need for us to go into production, to force individuals and government to see the need to invest in food and push us back to agriculture where we were before we discovered oil. Those who are wise have started going back to agriculture, Kebbi State will produce 1 million metric tonnes of rice this year, the country will attain self-sufficiency in tomato paste this year.
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Nigeria, before the oil, was a country where the South produced palm oil, the west produced cocoa, and the north produced groundnut and cotton. It was a balanced country where everybody was hard-working and contributing to the country until we discovered oil and got lazy. Buhari is now taking us back to that era where every region can contribute to the nation's economy. That is why the central bank is encouraging massive agricultural revolution in the south-east, the government is intensifying discovery of oil and other mineral resources in the north, the west is getting industrialised. We saw the launching of a new Agricultural City, the Integrated Produce City, recently in Edo State. This shows that individuals are beginning to key into Buhari's vision. The president realised that without economic stability, most of our problems will continue, and without suffering ourselves to attain such stability, we would get lazy again and go back to the mess he's trying to lift us from. But because we're a nation of people that are mentally lazy, that prefers to cry about problems than talk about solutions, we have refused to invent and innovate. We would rather wail about Buhari and moan about the effect of the mess he's trying to lift us from. We get exactly what we deserve.
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I hear that Buhari has gone to borrow some foreign money to help ameliorate the gnashing of teeth of lazy Nigerians. But if I were the president, I would not do that. We must learn to kill our culture of easy money and easy life, even in the western world, nothing comes easy, people work very hard to get a living. But Nigeria is the way it is today because our forefathers refused to work hard, even when they thought they were working hard, they did so without a vision, without foresight. Any child would suffer that his parents did not work hard, and until the child endures suffering, his own children would suffer too. If Nigeria must realise its full potentials, then we must take advantage of our current economic crises to reposition ourselves as a great nation.

Good. But are we making effort at independence because of our convictions or out of necessity. That is the question. Necessity comes from the top, from the head as in reasoning unto deliverance. Conviction comes from the heart, the people, from within as in repentance. Effort without conviction cannot last. You know this. As they used to tell me. You can only know a man when he has money. What he does when he has money is the real him. Nigeria did not get where it is because we lost, wasted our resources. We are here because we are the way we are. Has that changed. Is that changing. What has government done to change that. Are we not hearing everyday how 'bad' the last government was, even from top leadership. Which means that 'we will do better if given the same opportunity'.

Which means that the independence movement is borne out of necessity, not conviction THAT IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. So when the present scenario changes, when oil prices rise again, WE HAVE NO NEED TO DIVERSIFY AGAIN, because the threat of economic death is no longer. No need to restructure because salaries will be paid, militants will be paid and so rent seeking continues. Everyone claims and proves to know the history of how we got here albeit incorrectly in most cases. To find out how to get the cigarette out of our addicted hands is another problem entirely. I am not seeing signs that government even recognises the fact of the NEED so it is tolerates the people being led kicking and screaming towars the theatre of 'diversification' to preserve its own political capital when it should be making clear that IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND THE ONLY WAY OUT.

EMIOMOADEOYE:
Its Ironic.

In the last 16 years, each time a new president assumes office, Nigerians end up wishing for the last one.

I wonder what the next president would be like.

Everyone said Jonathan was clueless, now Baba is there we are all wishing we were still under Jonathan.

When the next president comes would we be like the Isrealites who wished they were still in Egypt?

The problem is not with the individual leaders but the system that keeps on churning them out. The game that only unwilling, unable players always seem to participate in and win. It is the game that needs changing. Change the game to basketball and dwarfs will not be interested. Change the game to chess and ignoramuses will bail out. Change the game to mixed martial arts and cowards wil flee. We get what we permit and the leaders we elect are a reflection of who we are. If we elect corrupt ones it js because we are corrupt. If we elect strong men it is becuase we are weak and lazy. If we elect jesters it is because we are unserious as a nation. I warned sometime before that the expectations being put on Buhari was inconsiderate judging by the TRUTH of what bedevils this country. All shouted corruption. Corruption is now gone, abi. Does it in itself make a country, Nigeria better, no.

There are fundamental issues bedevilling this country that are beyond even knowledgeable leadership but are in the hands of the people and their collective will to solve them. But when the people decide to exchange their responsibility for false hopes, this is what you get. This is why I consider the Presidency of Jonathan the best I have seen so far in the history of Nigeria. HE EXPOSED NIGERIA TO NIGERIANS for what it is. Not bread and fish, but the reality of the union called Nigeria, a realiity that all previous leaders and the present one has tried to shield and mask from the people. We have been living a lie since independence and it is now reflected in our pockets today.

If oil prices had remained at 100 dollars we will never have considered independence popularly called diversification today. Jonathan created the perfect scenario for this consideration to happen and capped it off with a conference at the end of his tenure Resisted then but is looking beautiful today and may be imperative tomorrow as perhaps the only way we will be able to survive. Did this government have 'diversification' as an central pre-election agenda, no. Because it is an establishment one, determined to maintain the status quo of a failed system of operating Nigeria, focusing only on bread and fish economic modelling. I said it that time. That governance is more than building roads and buying books in school but it involves taking the hard, hard decisions that guarantees the future viability of the nation and its people.

The current model Nigeria operates is not sustainable. I know, we know, that if oil goes north of 60 dollars and a few more roads are constructed and salaries paid on time, the government will be relieved, the people will be happy and re-election is sure.... but can we in the light of what we have all witnessed truly say that we have moved forward or just lost another glorious opportunity to truly develop.

DO YOU WISH AS A NIGERIAN FOR THINGS TO GET 'BETTER' OR FOR THINGS TO BE DONE PROPERLY, i.e for NIGERIA to get better. There is difference.

....BECAUSE THERE IS NO ONE TO CHALLENGE HIM.... This is the summary of democracy and Bill Clinton said it aptly, 'we donot need strong men but strong institutions'. Everything wrong today boils down to these. Overbearing individuals working with weak institutions. Legislature - weak and corrupt, Judiciary - weak and discordant, ruling party - weak and divisive. The Executive has no support. Even God Almighty has the Word and the Holy Spirit and they act as One. Nobody, no matter how highly or heavenly placed can know it and do it all. The more you shut up others the greater your tendency will be to fail. If a pilot turns off all his instruments and sirens, claxons, warning lights and ignores his checklist thinking with his experience and competence he can get from point A to B then he will know that day, that the world is not the same every morning and will wish the sun never rose that day. That is why we say the worst true democracy is better than the best pure dictatorship

Araoluwa005:
fake story. the source?

Very true. He was caught dozing off during an official event with Premier Kim at the rostrum giving a speech which is considered an insult with 'grave' consequences. But it was also thought his cup was full and the unscheduled siesta was the needle that broken the camel's back.

[quote author=Qualer post=48992231][/quote] I tell ya bruv. Mark will be risking his creativity if he indulges.

Qualer:
THIS is not Nigeria..
this is Kenya and that is a staple food in Kenya known as Ugali.. made from sorghum or maize flour mostly boiled in fresh milk until it thickens.

See how he is holding the thing like a stylus... dem no teach am how to mould am like Efik or Ibibio man. Kenyans sef dey form high tech.

Qualer:
THIS is not Nigeria..
this in Kenya and that is a staple food in Kenya known as Ugali.. made from sorghum or maize flour mostly boiled in fresh milk until it thickens.

What's the difference. They are all big lumps of concentrated carbs guaranteed to give you hips.

8BitGee:
I hope he doesn't purge

He is definitely has an appointment with John throughout the night cos the worms in his pouch will be like what da hell is coming doon.

bigtt76:
It has to be a foreign company who will build it

These are the forex drains I was speaking about. Except if it is an INVESTMENT or GRANT, the government should establish a moratorium on contracts and projects to foreign owned companies who are potential forex drains. If it wants to save money it can get the police to build that structure by direct labour. If it wants to create value it should engage the services of our teeming number of unemployed educated and non educated youth.Let the private sector 'trade' amongst themselves. It is time to start the divorce proceedings between the private and public sectors to grow tne economy.

kenonze:
Most fast food franchise have closed down.

They cannot cope.
If PMB can solve the problem of electricity(but GEJ and NDA) won't let that happen. ... Keep blowing up pipelines
Most of this problems would have been averted

You folks are just impossible. So ignorant that it is just mind boggling. When will reality hit you guys that this situation has gone beyond politics. What is your objective with this. Put the blame on someone, on people that have no stake in the rescue of the country to make the path easy for those who should be on their toes. It is discordant messages like these that's will only PROLONG the bad situation because leadership feeding into this confusion will do nothing. For your information, you cannot wish away economic challenges. The only way is to face them like Obama did with all conviction. Blaming George Bush two years after he took power was never on his agenda. People often mistaken criticism for cynism. No government, I repeat, no government CAN PERFORM without pressure. This is the fundamental reason WHY DICTATORSHIPS DONOT WORK. So you can deflect all you want. I do hope those in authority are not listening to your type but rather weighing the seriousness of the situation, because the day they do, they have sealed their failure.

Hmmm, the NLC lost its relevance when it decided to join politics at the last elections. They took a gamble and it has backfired big time. These are just face saving, straw grasping modelling moves that will not turn heads at all. The lessons are clear. Never mix trade unionism with politics. The results are always incendiary and reputations will always go up in smoke.

Honestly I don't beleive in generic curses but.... sometimes you begin to think Africa has something special going.... for her.

Thank goodness gracious me. Big, big, big relief. At long last.

shaddoww:
They said the place is owned by Olagunsoye Oyinlola and it was approved as a parking lot but instead they were constructing a four-storey building n dey used substandard materials.

This is where the problem starts. Someone somewhere breaks the law and the impunity grows and grows until it consumes lives.

Dark continent..... where ignorance rules.

deji15:
In the southeastern city of Aba – known as the “Japan of Africa” until the 1970s – more than 2,000 shoemakers have shut because they cannot pay for imported glue or synthetic leather, whose prices has surged due to the black market dollar rate.

The solution is replace imported parts with local content..

So, with all the various animals in Nigeria, we cannot get enough synthetic leather from them
Importing glue??

As a secondary school pupil, I was making glue / gum from bark of the cashew tree in our school compound....

We need to change our orientation..

Good one. Where is the Ministry of Finance, Industries and that of Trade and Investment and Science and Technology. This is where they earn their pay. By taking a hard look at all forex requirements and categorizing them according to 0% local substitution, partial local distribution and 100% local substitution by scouring the entire length and breadth of Nigerian local industries. You will be surprised to find just how much is available locally but is ignored on grounds of quality, price and preferences. SON should mandate manufacturers to ensure that their products to be sold in Nigeria publish their local vendors in regular newsletters and their local contents on every package with the Nigerian flag or other insignia boldly printed. Create a partnership, synergy or a platform where local producers and manufacturers can interact at the highest levels of governme to streamline production quality, costs and inventories.

celestialAgent:
I'm not supprised.

Innoson has never occured to me as a car manufacturing company but a car part compilation company. Hence the reason for reliance on forex to import the parts to be coupled...

let's not embrace dependency, we need real productions!

Before you quote me, bear in mind that i'm not tribalistic, this is channelled at all Nigerians..

Just shut it. You need real production abi. How many car manufacturers source compone gs from their countries entirely. Even manufacturing giant China sources the bulk of its vehicle engines abroad. Do it for several years and you transfer technology. Innoson is just ten years old and you don't expect them to be producing entirely onshore. It is not his fault that Nigeria has no steel plant, no petrochemical plant and no machine tools manufacturers.

What the government should be doing is to mandate the CBN to prioritise the sale of forex to industries that compliment its strategic developmental objectives and keep a hawkeye thst such funds are not diverted. Apart from petrochemicals and energy, I cannot see what else should get forex before heavy industry of which vehicle assembly is one.

yrret:
Thought the train was going to run from freezone through calabar south. Nobody will even know such project is in calabar cos of its selected area for use.

So na only tinapa or free zone people go use am?

Calabar South. Wetin dey there, abi who dey there.

sarrki:
I have not heard 9f this road been commissioned


Pls let's be constructive in our criticism


It's for the good of all .

We should grow over may be it's APC or PDP

our concerns should be the betterment of our Dear society and country


Youth Pls wake-up

It is not about commissioned or not. I passed 'under' on my way to Portharcourt a month and a half ago and slowed down enough to observe. One thing I noticed and this is Tunnel 101 for beginners. If you intend building any subsurface structure, please, please, please, you must give serious thought how you will get water out if and only if it gets in. I saw what was a joke of an attempt to do this by a foot and a half wide by a foot and a half deep open drain. I knew I wasn't passing back that way till December when the 'open sewer' will be less smelly. The Ministry of Works must engage the services of professionals, not politicians to set the standards for their infrastructure. This is a joke.

This is one state where the great expectations have gone so so horribly wrong. And coming from the most educated pair of governors ever to grace the seat of government anywhere in nigeria, is just sad. Cross-River badly needs a viable opposition and the APC should prepare to take over power come 2019 if this is all the PDP has to offer. The days of Donald Duke seem like a distant memory now. Education can never make up for exposure and it is not proportional to wisdom, ideas or innovation. You either have it or you don't have it.

Lazy man. He can't walk into the nearest building site to look for his daily bread. He is busy blaming someone else for where he has put himself. Sometime in the last 2 months, 3 months, 6 months, one year, he tossed an opportunity because it was too hard, degrading or obstructive.

advocatebaba:
ITS HAPPENED VERY CLOSE 2MY HOUSE, D CJTF WERE SO FIERCE ND ANGERED BY D GRUESOME KILLING OF THEIR LEADER, A SUSPECTED ASSAILANT'S FAMILY HOUSE WAS SET ON FIRE, A BUS BELONGING 2HIS FATHER WAS SET ABLAZE . AL MANNERS OF LOCALIZED WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION WER IN FULL DISPLAY YSTERDAY MORNING AROUND 6:00AM BY D JTF. IT IS WORTHY OF NOTE DAT D ACTIVITIES OF D CJTF HAS REDUCED D CRIMINAL ACT OF D HOODLUMS IN KAKURI TO A MINIMAL LEVEL... D CTJF R SO ANGERED BY D SUDDEN ASSASINATION OF DIER LEADER ND ANY SIGHT OF SUSPECTIN PERPETRATOR OF D ACT WIL B GIVIN A JUNGLE JUSTICE.

Then why not just legalise them and their activities and disband the Federal police.

We said they should restructure, they say no. We said State police, they say no, but the country is full of armed and unarmed civilian militias in breach of the constitution. Why is this cuntry so disorganised, so lawless. What is the so called civilian JTF doing in Kaduna State. Is the state threatened by the Boko Haram?. Is the state not the defacto headquarters of the Nigerian Army with a whole division headquatered there amongst countless training and operational bases. Is this not a tacit way of certain elements within the polity to control arms and armed groups ex-constitution while preventing others in other parts of the country to 'legitimately' defend themselves as well. What it happening.