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Politics › Re: Nigerian Senators Say Tummy-exposing Sarees Are Responsible For Corruption! by SkyBlue1: 11:51pm On Sep 29, 2008
WOW!! It almost seems futile debating this but i personally can't wait for the Senator in question's stint and misadventure in the senate to come to an end. Perhaps now it isn't so ludacris to comprehend the abysmal records of actual bills pased and situations addressed by the legislative arm of government when you look at what goes on there. Obama recommendations? Exposed tummies of ladies in Indian dresses? Since when did these even become a priority in the Nigerian situation when you look at everything else? *sigh*
Politics › Re: Creation Of More State In Yorubaland An Issue Of Justice Delay Is Justice Denied by SkyBlue1: 11:22pm On Sep 18, 2008
I really don't know anymore, i really need to pray for strength to permanently ignore a certain poster's threads and posts, but this is getting quite out of control  cheesy. I am pretty sure a lot of people if not everyone here knows what google earth is, what is most amusing is the insistence in using googe earth as a credible means of estimating population. Try using google map or google earth on places like the states and europe, the "coverage" is pretty good and images are much more defined when compared to places in Africa like Nigeria whereby any place that cannot be identified is just pasted with low res green pixels as has consistently been shown in the google earth loving poster's images. Also, with the persistence of using these aeriel shots and terrible low res satellite images, is that to say that the reason Nigeria is not functioning is because of a census everyone knows was fake even without the use of these terribly low res satellite images? Read the news artuicles from just after the census results were declared, you are not saying anything groundbreaking or new by declaring the census to be a fraud. You aren't saying anything we don't know. So what new point is actually being put across with all these images that seem to have infinite sequels spawning everyday?
Politics › Re: Kaduna State To Produce Fuel From Sugarcane by SkyBlue1: 11:00pm On Sep 18, 2008
One thing that just came to mind is that if the aim is to produce ethanol on an industrial scale then it means growing of sugar on an industrial scale, industrial farm machinery and techniques, fertilizers, the whole works. Apart from Obasanjo's Ota farm does such a farm exist in Nigeria? If it didn't and the factor that actually became the drive to do such was not to feed the nation hence reduce the ammount of stuff that the country imports (apparently including garri) but instead to be producing 100litres of ethanol and 300litres after expansion then that is quite disheartening. Anyway, they have already begun and even though its in my view misplaced priority, if the fruits of the money can be seen, then what else can be hoped for.

I hope this news and others isn't to serve as distraction of the Nigerian masses from the constitutional review o? Tomorrow you will hear "woman in Nigeria gave birth to boy with two heads", "Abacha comes back to life", "EFCC arrests Peter Odilli, Obasanjo and Babangida" and you won't hear anything about the constituional review. These government guys are crafty, it is now they want to shake body after over a year of no motion  cheesy
Politics › Re: Kaduna State To Produce Fuel From Sugarcane by SkyBlue1: 7:15pm On Sep 18, 2008
bawomolo:
they plan to produce 150 of these per day tongue

https://www.dominos-now.com/files/164Coke_2_Liter_MED.jpg
LOL cheesy cheesy.
Well, now we know "it can be done" i just hope that government won't be the one to run this plant in case it doesn't turn out to be cost effective, hence further increasing the burden on government funds.
Politics › Re: Kaduna State To Produce Fuel From Sugarcane by SkyBlue1: 6:48pm On Sep 18, 2008
courage89:
This is an assumption that I made based on the NNPC’s report that came out couple of months ago. The report stated that some petroleum marketing company imported bad fuel into the country (E20). They quarantined their vessel because of detrimental effect those petroleum products posed to our cars.

May be the number (85%) is a little high, but you get my drift.
I understand that our cars are now coming from different part of the world right now, including Brazil that runs (E100).

Yes, even if it’s a test production. It makes business sense.

The N15 million will be factored as sunk cost and should be recovered during operation assuming the money is meant for their feasibility study. For every long term investment, you have sunk cost here and there (including floating vessel for crude oil production).
So basically if i am getting this correctly you are saying that the aim is to produce ethanol to be used as an additive for fuel which the country imports from others? So the fuel imported from foreign countries that probably have no crude oil but have refineries, don't these already contain ethanol additives? This is the point i keep driving at, i don't see how this could be more cost effective than investing in a refinery? Is this a joke or some experimant for a science class to show that "it can be done"? LOL. Even if it is being used as an additive, are we all picturing what 300litres looks like?  cheesy
Politics › Re: Kaduna State To Produce Fuel From Sugarcane by SkyBlue1: 5:14pm On Sep 18, 2008
courage89:
I think their Idea, planning, initiatives are in the right direction, and they deserve commendation and support. There is demand for this product in Nigeria currently as additives for our petroleum product. Pretty much about 98% of our cars in Nigeria are designed to run on at least 85% gasoline with may be 15% ethanol, so how can we assume that their idea will be to gain independence from southern oil…we all know that is not possible yet. The idea is not to replace gasoline with ethanol…but to reduce the dependent on imported ethanol that are used as additives.

Spending 15 million to produce 300 lit/day is pretty much the same as when you invest $2 billion on floating vessel in order to produce 100,000 barrels of oil /day from oil rig. So what is the problem? This is a one time capital investment except for when expansion sets in.
Read the article a bit more carefuly or perhaps i read it wrong?




Kaduna produces fuel from sugarcane


17.09.2008

THE Kaduna State government has commenced the production of fuel from sugarcane in an effort to develop alternative source of energy. The Commissioner for Science and Technology, Dr Sani Bello, told the News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) on Monday in Kaduna that the pilot plant was producing 100 litres of bio-ethanol per day.


Bello said the state had spent over N15 million to build the project, adding that the government would expand the plant production to 300 litres per day soon.


He said the state government was also experimenting the use of maize and cassava as part of raw materials for the project. Bello said the current fuel grade after it was blended with petroleum product was 99.9 per cent bio-ethanol.


“We started with E10, which gave 10 per cent bio-ethanol and 90 per cent fuel and later E100, meaning 100 per cent bio-ethanol. “The product has been tested on internal combustion engine and yielded a good result,” Bello said.


The commissioner said the state government had also concluded plans to commence a bio-diesel pilot project through the use of jatropher plant. Bello stressed that the plant, when completed, would be producing over 300 litres of the commodity per day.


NAN learnt that over N90 million would be spent on the bio-diesel pilot project, which would soon take-off.
Politics › Re: Kaduna State To Produce Fuel From Sugarcane by SkyBlue1: 1:23pm On Sep 18, 2008
Lol, this is a bit amusing. Let us look at this properly, first of all those who are saying that there is no food hence people are starving and already available food should not be used, i don't think this is the issue. Correct me if i am wrong but i think availability of money to the poor to then use to buy food rather than just sugar cane is what the issue is. Now if sugar cane is going to be used for bio fuels i am guessing this will mean more business for sugar cane planters and hence more income for them to feed their family, hence i don't see what the arguement there is.

However, reading the ammount of money spent on sugar cane and manufacture, and all to produce what, 300litres of biofuels? I hope people are looking at this instead, try to picture what 300litres looks like, LOL. 300litres would be used for exactly how many cars? It is just completely ludacris and seems like another case of all motion and no movement kind of thinking. Countries like America, France, Germany, England, etc can afford to spend money on biofuels and other such ventures that are currently not cost effective but can Nigeria afford to? Are we going to deceive ourselves that Nigeria is swimming in money to burn when there is no power, good roads, security, etc? I would like to think that this was some country like America or England encouraging Africa to "go green" when such countries still depend heavily on fossil fuels, i would have liked to think this so that i could vent at the absurdity and hypocricy considering how much africa actually contributes to global pollution. But to think that this was a Nigerian leader's "bright idea" just really yet again discourages confidence in the ill gotten crop of leaders ruling the country. Has Nigeria suddenly run out of oil and gas? Why would you ask a woman swimming in fresh water to dehydrate because by drinking the water she might be offending the fishes?
Politics › Re: Creation Of More State In Yorubaland An Issue Of Justice Delay Is Justice Denied by SkyBlue1: 6:30pm On Sep 13, 2008
WOW. Please go through your posts again and absorb it, then try and reconcile it with the problems of mismanagement, corruption, unaccountability, bad governance, inscecurity, no power, lack of functioning industries, very high unemployment, etc that are facing the country, and see if what you are proposing is in tandem with the actual issues. What is even more surprising and perhaps i should be used to it by now, is how you speak as if there are only 3 to 5 ethnic groups in Nigeria. Why don't your posts ever seem to deviate from this unto substance which affects the country? Anyway, i should know better by now, no doubt you will find a response.
Politics › Re: Creation Of More State In Yorubaland An Issue Of Justice Delay Is Justice Denied by SkyBlue1: 4:30pm On Sep 13, 2008
All i can say is that i am very happy that a certain poster who has a fetish for low res-pixelated-aeriel photography is not a person who decides how Nigeria is run or else the country is in serious trouble. Creation of more states? I am just lost for words really, and the arguements used are just mind boggling. Some states are too big to handle? And that calls for creation of a whole new state with new commissioners and governors and SSGs that are all getting paid with government money that is not infinite? And i am assuming these new states are going to generate their own revenue or is it just going to be a matter of taking another slice off the oil pie? Instead of finding a way to shrink the number of currently useless states and introducing things like mayors of certain areas or districts or something of that nature and hence avoiding having to create a whole other state government, people are actually thinking of more states? Instead of thinking of a way to reduce bureacracy in governmental structure and make it more effective, more states is actually an issue? A whole new autonomous entity that will simply be another mouth to feed on the limited oil resources? Isn't this just a case of a very poor family having too many children?

Sometimes i just don't even know to be honest, from the way this thread has progressed you will think such a debate was even based on a pressing issue. Also, i am almost certain that factors greater than low res aeriel photographs are what is used by experts to generate information on population and issues of that matter. Well, that is what you have to accept with an open forum, everyone turns into an "expert". Let me look for a recreational section on the forum so that i can go and lecture people on the intricacies of basket weaving, something i know nothing about but hey, i am on the internet.  cheesy
Politics › Re: Imagine This Kind Of Nigeria by SkyBlue1: 1:18am On Sep 12, 2008
Read earlier comment, not all will agree with you that things cannot be different and i disagree with you that their is no hope as i happen to believe that there is so you might just have to deal with the fact that not everyone sees the situation as unchangeable and hopeless. Good day  smiley
Politics › Re: Imagine This Kind Of Nigeria by SkyBlue1: 12:55am On Sep 12, 2008
bilymuse:
The reality is that Nigeria has no future,  our future is tied to oil. When the price of oil goes up in the international market , more money comes into he coffer of the government and they are happy; low price , less money and sadness. when the oil finish , Nigeria will cease to exit as a nation.
Thanks for making your position clearer but of course you know not everyone sees Nigeria as being without hope as you do, and not everyone has such resignation. Hence please stop expressing phony shock at people who might see possibility and hope in the situation.
Politics › Re: Imagine This Kind Of Nigeria by SkyBlue1: 12:49am On Sep 12, 2008
bilymuse:
brother Joseph, which dream are you talking about. It easy for you in abroad to talk about dream: live in a big house surrounded by modern gadget, drive big car, spend hard currency. The real Nigerians are in Nigeria, they have nothing. Most of them haven't eaten since yesterday.

[size=15pt]While you in abroad are having a dream, the real Nigerians are having a nightmare[/size]
So what exactly do you know about me? The "real Nigerians" in Nigeria are suffering and having nightmares, and folding hands and doing nothing to change this is going to cause such to cease? What exactly is your gripe with someone saying, it can be better so let us act to make it so? What is soo offensive about that to you? What exactly? Shouldn't i be the one offended that after pointing out that people in Nigeria are suffering you seem to be against doing anything to change that?
Politics › Re: Imagine This Kind Of Nigeria by SkyBlue1: 12:40am On Sep 12, 2008
onyinye2:
Why in the world would I even want to contact one of those folk? What am I wanting from them? Assurance, security, better life? Don't think so. Better off taking thing into your own hands. Dreaming for a better Nigeria is just utter stupidity. What is dreaming going to do when folk aint willing to die, fight, sacrifice for it? Look at the Civil Act Movement with akata people. They wasn't looking for a better life for them, but for their descendents. But not ndi Nigeria. Nope, they want the fruits of their labor too.
So you have never tried ever to ever contact such people but you resolved that "it is Nigeria" hence it can't be done? So you castigate the government for being an abomination etc (quite understandably) but are not willing to even consider the posibility not to even speak of doing anything proactive to change this? Isn't there a paradox in there somewhere? Plus you sound to have given up on Nigeria ever getting better, so what exactly are you doing here making the effort to preach such to those who are foolish enough to still hope and act if you habour such resignation that Nigeria would ever getting better? Not trying to offend you, i just don't get it and i guess i don't have to, to each his own. Have a nice day.
Politics › Re: Imagine This Kind Of Nigeria by SkyBlue1: 12:18am On Sep 12, 2008
onyinye2:
Adios muchacho, I never said that i wanted nigeria to stay the way it is. Am i daft? of course not. Of course i want to see the Real Nigeria, not the the Potential Nigeria. We all can play our part in help changing it, but what unu niile want is, instant gratification.
This is something i just don't get, so everyone who dares to dream of a better Nigeria is living in fantasy? The thing about dreams is that a lot of people dream then work to make the dream a reality. In Nigeria it seems it is either just dream and not act at all to bring it to reality or just remain pessimistic.  When the opportunity presents itself to act you will see people running away from it like it was the plague instead of seeing such opportunity to make things right as a blessing even, LOL, quite amusing. You said something that suggested "it is Nigeria" hence contacting reps and senators is impossible because "it is Nigeria". Have you actually tried to get in contact with any member of the house before or anybody in such authority to make a difference, ever, that leads you to believe it is impossible or would you rather just say that? I just don't get it but anyway, it is a free forum so to each his own.

It seems if you want to scare Nigerians there is no need to carry a gun, just say "come lets solve our problems" and you will see people jumping into bush,  cheesy
Politics › Re: Imagine This Kind Of Nigeria by SkyBlue1: 12:06am On Sep 12, 2008
onyinye2:
Biko, can you hop off already, dang.
Keep on dreaming nwannem. Nigeria is home to the potential and the greedy. We have potential, but we greedy as hell. WE as in all of us.
lol, speak for yourself pleae. I don't know why people on this forum have a habit of wanting to speak for everyone, if you feel you are greedy then that is between you and your maker, don't come and smear me in thesame paint  cheesy
Whatever excuse you might want to use in order to leave things the way they are is up to you, i have already forseen the futility in this arguement, have a nice day  smiley. For everyone else please, honestly, this constituion review is a big deal. All those shouting Niger delta this and that know themselves. An opportunity presents itself.
Politics › Re: Imagine This Kind Of Nigeria by SkyBlue1: 11:49pm On Sep 11, 2008
@onyinye if you continue to see things the way you asume they will always be instead of the way they can and should be why would you want to act to make them they way they should be? I find it amusing how people always get on the defensive when it is time to act, a million and one excuses are made to say why it will never work. But to right essay, you will see people just doing it. Please permit those who believe things can be different if we drive at that to hold on to that and act on that. I rather try to do something than sit and look and continue to say "it can never be".
Politics › Re: Imagine This Kind Of Nigeria by SkyBlue1: 5:14pm On Sep 11, 2008
I did not want to have to open a new thread for this but anyone is free to if they want. Instead of dreaming of what could be and so on why not step in to act? If there has ever been a time throughout the history of this current administration to put pressure on the senate and the house it is now!!! I don't think the need arises to write about the importance of a constitution that is relevant to the reality of the country and is current with the urgency of the obstacles the country of Nigeria faces in development and growth. The constitution is an important foundation to the growth of the nation's democracy. Instead of simply dreaming about change please, the utmost ammount of pressure needs to be put on the law makers in order that the country gets a more fair constitution that can potetnially stimulate growth and development rather than hinder it. We should find out the contact details of those taking part in this review and see what we can each do in our capacity. Let Nairaland stand for something beyond commentary
Politics › Re: Imagine This Kind Of Nigeria by SkyBlue1: 5:14pm On Sep 11, 2008
Nigeria: Constitution Review Begins Next Week

10 September 2008
Posted to the web 10 September 2008

Tashikalmah Hallah


Review of the 199 Constitution will start next week when the National Assembly inaugurates an 80-member joint committee for the exercise, Senate President David Mark said yesterday.

Speaking at the resumption of the Senate after a two-month recess, Mark said the National Assembly was committed to coming up with new laws that will positively touch on the lives of Nigerians.

The Senate and the House of Representatives have announced membership of the joint constitution review committee before the two chambers went on annual recess. The committee, with membership from each of the 36 states and Abuja, is to be headed by Deputy President of the Senate Ike Ekwer-emadu, while the Deputy Speaker of the House of Representatives, Usman Bayero Nafada will serve as his deputy.

Mark said in his address, "As we return the expectation of the people is naturally and rightly high. Among others, our people anxiously await action on the constitution amendment.

"You will recall that before we proceed on recess, we had announced the names of our colleagues who would represent us in the constitution Review Committee. It is heart-warming to note that the House of Representatives has also named its membership.

"We can for all intent and purposes declare that we are set to kick start the process. The Joint Committee should be inaugurated early next week, God willing," he said.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200809100394.html
Politics › Re: Kingibe Sacked by SkyBlue1: 10:51pm On Sep 09, 2008
Big B1:
@MAMAJAMA:
No need to go there anymore with you; the facts are out there and the real politicians in Nigeria clearly understand these facts.

IBB may not be the better man for the job, but he is absolutely the right man for the job at this time.

For example: as Joe Biden continues to be the better VP for Obama, Hillary Clinton on the other hand still maintains the[b] right [/b] VP for Obama at this moment in the race.
We must understand the difference between "The Better Man and The right Man" and when to apply each of them
appropriately.

Sometimes to get there, you must bite the bullet; most of our problems in Nigeria will be solved as soon as Nigerians in Nigeria (forget those Maricon Nigerians that make so much noise outside Nigeria and show very little action) learn how to bite the bullet.

Everything in life is a risk; but to me, selecting IBB as the president at this time in Nigeria is the right risk.

Sorry guys, this is just the way I feel.

Long Life Yar'Adua!
lol, well, people like to say "we are all entitled to our opinions" so let us apply it across the board. @BigB1 It would be more helpful if you actually said something in all this writing because your posts always seem to make no sense whatsoever to me. Perhaps i am too stupid to see the substance in it. I am however willing to be enlightened so please do explain to us what you mean by all of this without using more rethoric that appears to be deep and meaningful but actually seems to say nothing while on closer inspection, or are we just going to get more award winning lines like "you have to know where we are to know where we went" or something of that nature?  cheesy. Hopefully we could get something less vague?  LOL, quite amusing to say the least

[/quote]Sorry folks; it seems to me that Nigeria is being re-arranged just in-case of In-caseCity.

Hang on and let us watch Nigerian politics "the real politics", indeed.

Long life Yar'Adua.
IBB as a president would have accomplished a lot of positive things by now in Nigeria. He knows what is missing, he knows how to restore things back to normal and he knows the right folks that will get the job done correctly and quickly.

It is obvious to me that many of us clearly do not completely understand this country; Nigeria is not an ordinary country and can never be ruled by just anybody.

IBB is a terrible man that can not be trusted; but what have your people done for you lately, I just want to know how long folks are willing to wait for this miracle to occur!

I still think that at this moment in Nigeria, IBB is a better the right man for the job.

[quote]
LOL, more pulitzer winning inspirational commentary from Mr BigB1, Nairaland!  cheesy  cheesy
Politics › Re: Are Nigerians Generally Unpatriotic? by SkyBlue1: 6:48pm On Sep 08, 2008
Kobojunkie:
I agree. What I mean is I would rather see people who have actually DONE SOMETHING come in to tell me of how patriotic they have been by their actions and the visible changes results. Not continue to have people try to tell me how everyone else is unpatriotic for speaking out against the problems in the country, yet they have nothing to show of why they feel they are suddenly judge of what or who is to be deemed patriotic and who does not qualify.

A problem in Nigeria is that the situation is so bad that small changes rarely yield much because of the way the system continues to exist. You go in to donate money or fix a road today; tomorrow it is bad the way it was before the fix, why? Because the system, and the people work against those who work to change things in that country. You go in to donate computers to school today, tomorrow they are gone. Are you being patriotic then, when you know the machines will be gone with the wind by the next day, but choose to continue donating computers instead of instead changing plans to tackle the main problem which is security? Are you more patriotic if you choose to continue rebuilding roads that each year, come rainy season, will be reduced to portholes and death traps due to lack of good drainage systems? There is patriotism and there is stupidity ooo…
cheesy
Politics › Re: "Resign Now!", Pastor Bakare Tells Yar’adua! by SkyBlue1: 6:46pm On Sep 08, 2008
LOL, but doesn't this just echo the Nigerian situation of leadership and pride even in churches? This whole issue of power, leadership and pride that leads to self aggrandisation whereby governors who have done nothing to warrant respect demand it and want to be called "oga sir"and be showered with praises and the so called "men of god" want to be called prophets hence seem to play 'guess what happens next'. In Nigeria nothing seems to be off limits to these traits and what is most worrying is when all these so called "prophecies" are ascribed to have been received from God himself, direct, no go slow or due process. Just seems a microcosm of a larger aspect of the Nigerian situation and psyche.
Politics › Re: Are Nigerians Generally Unpatriotic? by SkyBlue1: 6:06pm On Sep 08, 2008
@Kobo ditto, just a shame people will try to add unecessary complexities to the problem of crime and punishment. However, i don't feel patriotism is what comes after action, i believe if patriotism was really there it is what might be what is necessary in such a country to drive people to act in the first place. If patriotism really was there then won't these actions spoken off about people acting in the best interest of the country and upholding a system that condones corruption and indiscipline have being forced and demanded for? I don't see this patriotism in the first place in the wider Nigeria before we even begin talking about it coming before or after actions.
Politics › Re: Kingibe Sacked by SkyBlue1: 5:32pm On Sep 08, 2008
Any links or reference to verify this news or is this just about discussing speculation?
Politics › Re: Are Nigerians Generally Unpatriotic? by SkyBlue1: 5:05pm On Sep 08, 2008
[quote author=dudu-bobo link=topic=168280.msg2771612#msg2771612 date=1220889668]Let's not get anything twisted.
You said I concluded that Nigerians are patriotic - I did not.
Now you claim you are trying to postulate that I inferred that patriotic Nigerians are in the majority - I did not make any such postulation[/quote]Sorry if i misunderstood where you were coming from, don't take this as an attack but the parts in bold are what led me to draw those conclusions, perhaps some error?

[quote author=dudu-bobo link=topic=168280.msg2771350#msg2771350 date=1220886848]@skyblue, I agree with you.

We are either engaged in corruption or always celebrating corrupt people and we blame everyone else for our problems.
Nigerians are patriotic but it's not moving the nation forward because they are not doing the right things to move Nigeria forward[/quote][quote author=dudu-bobo link=topic=168280.msg2771513#msg2771513 date=1220888490]I don't know if I have concluded that Nigerians are patriotic but I know that some Nigerians are proud to be Nigerians, including me. Besides, my belief is that the tribalistic ones are not in the majority[/quote]
Politics › Re: Are Nigerians Generally Unpatriotic? by SkyBlue1: 4:49pm On Sep 08, 2008
[quote author=dudu-bobo link=topic=168280.msg2771513#msg2771513 date=1220888490]I don't know if I have concluded that Nigerians are patriotic but I know that some Nigerians are proud to be Nigerians, including me. Besides, my belief is that the tribalistic ones are not in the majority[/quote]Now this is what i don't get, if according to your postulation those who hold the interest of their ethnic groups way above the interest of the country are in the minority then you are saying "patriotic Nigerians" are in the majority, right? So what sort of patriotism do Nigerians practise that only goes as far as speaking without any genuine or substantial actions or culture of such being displayed? If you agree that genuine patriotism leads one to act patriotic then shouldn't Nigeria be in a different situation as opposed to the precipice it seems to continually face? Just read today about the rumours of an alleged coup that is flying around everywhere. So this patriotism, when is it going to start bearing fruit as opposed to the so called "patriots" being hearers but not doers?
Politics › Re: Are Nigerians Generally Unpatriotic? by SkyBlue1: 4:39pm On Sep 08, 2008
[quote author=dudu-bobo link=topic=168280.msg2771479#msg2771479 date=1220888170]ha ha. We are looking at different aspects of this. Tribalists have personal problems and they need to be counselled. . . that's my opinion[/quote]well, considering that this issue of tribalism isn't some insignificant annoying fly but quite a noticeable obstacle, how did you then come to the conclusion that "Nigerians are patriotic" ? smiley
Politics › Re: Are Nigerians Generally Unpatriotic? by SkyBlue1: 4:28pm On Sep 08, 2008
[quote author=dudu-bobo link=topic=168280.msg2771350#msg2771350 date=1220886848]@skyblue, I agree with you.

We are either engaged in corruption or always celebrating corrupt people and we blame everyone else for our problems.
Nigerians are patriotic but it's not moving the nation forward because they are not doing the right things to move Nigeria forward[/quote]I don't get that statement. I hope you aren't equating this special "love" that Nigerians seem to have for the country outside Nigeria which surprisingly, internally does not seem to be able to move past ethnic or tribal affiliations to patriotism. So those who keep on reducing everything to tribalism as has been seen so many times but go outside nigeria and shout "up naija" and show their "national pride", are they patriotic because they practise such outside the country where no one will know the difference between an igbo, yoruba or Nigerian man? Where we all have to be Nigerians? Is that the kind of patriotism you speak of as something worthy of note?
Politics › Re: Are Nigerians Generally Unpatriotic? by SkyBlue1: 3:47pm On Sep 08, 2008
Yet again more lip service, Nigeria. A few days ago someone posted on Nairaland about how the former prime minister of Thailand is being dealt with by his people, the former thai prime minister Thaksin skipped bail and fled to England, the current one is already in a legal battle; people in Pakistan are protesting and demanding judgement on the former prime minister of their nation who they all felt cheated them and symbolised corruption, today i was watching on the news about how people in Swaziland, yes oh, Swaziland have been holding protests continuosly against the the traditional ruler of Swaziland who has about 30 wives which he yearly picks from a reeds festival ( a topic that has been discussed on this forum). This "ruler" of Swaziland lives in oppulence while his people suffer in squalor and after yet another private jet apparently the people decided to fight against this so called "culture" of exploitation and corruption. So please someone help me out, when is Nigeria's own turn going to come?

This so called "Giant of Africa" that is the biggest black nation on earth, when are people going to be, in their patriotism led act to take back the country? As has been exhibited on Nairaland time immeasurable, it is even difficult for some to see corruption and call it that without renegading back to ethnic bias and tribalism. So when is all this "patriotism" that makes people scream "naija, naija" going to bear any fruit or ammount to anything more than lip service when it seems the wrong cannot even be condemned while some people throwing such award winning lines like "what have you done for Nigeria"? So looking at all of this does anyone actually see any patriotism in the country? One could write an essay on patriotism but for this case it isn't necessary. Patriotism does not have to come when things are going right or when the country has "done something for you", it seems to me to partly come from a belief in ones country and that belief driving one to act in the best interest of the country. Very soon you will here that guinea republic have chased away their own bad eggs while Nigeria keeps on celebrating corruption and bad leadership and vaunting the Nigerian special brand of patriotism that inspires the people to keep on looking and ignoring atrocities while shouting "up naija" or my favourite "naija for lyfe". Nigeria, the giant of Africa and the biggest black nation on earth  cheesy
Politics › Re: Advice Fashola On Demolition by SkyBlue1: 4:08pm On Sep 04, 2008
Kobojunkie:
I can tell you this, Lagos should brace for more people to move in, in the next 2 months. From family sources back in Nigeria, more people are moving from their villages to Lagos, and not until other parts of the country start developing will be see a decline in urban migration.
This seems the only way to decongest Lagos, there desperately needs to be wider spread development in Nigeria, too bad visionary leadership in almost all facets of Government including the House of reps seems to be lacking. On the other hand Lagos can use this to generate more revenue by taxation and use such to further develop the city and there definately needs to be a huge boom in highrise buildings to cope with the population issue.
Nairaland General › Re: Can Someone Tell Me What Nigeria1's Satellite Photos Are About by SkyBlue1: 8:51am On Sep 01, 2008
Jakumo:
Nairaland's resident Satellite Meister, Nigeria1@, can best be described by any of the following phrases.

1. The lights are on, but nobody is home.

2. The elevator doesn't go to the top floor

3. A couple of screws loose

4. A bread-slice short of a bologna sandwich
LOL. @Jakumo, wasn't that a bit harsh? LOL, the thing about posting stuff online is that you don't know who the other person is, could be old enough to be your grand father  cheesy. I think Nigeria1 needs our prayers and since Jakumo is on the opposite side of the spectrum, Jakumo isn't there anything juju-tech can do for him? Just give 4 Play the list of required "ingredients" so that he gets to be the one to compromise/sacrifice his morals and values, i have a feeling he frequents juju-tech so surely he must be due for a discount on your "services". Whatever needs to be done, Nigeria1 needs our "support" to break this map fetish cheesy

P.S. Nigeria1 is there some aeriel shot you can post that can help one better understand Yar Adua's 7 point agenda?
Politics › Re: Yar’adua Sick, Hospitalised by SkyBlue1: 3:51pm On Aug 31, 2008
LOL, honestly "Nigeria1" could argue that water was thicker than eba using aeriel maps, whether the maps would add any substance to the debate is left to each person to draw their own conclusions. Quite amusing i must say, "the world is coming to an end" - Nigeria1 would post aeriel shots; "Nitel is now obsolete in the Nigerian telecommunications landscape" - Nigeria1 will post aeriel shots; "The President has aids" - Nigeria1 will post ariel shots; indeed if you don't know where your mouth is located in order to successfully direct your hand to feed it, ask Nigeria1 to post the aeriel shots for you and he will  cheesy. It no longer irritates me since this is not my first encounter with the poster, i just now find it hilarious when such (terribly low res and pixelated, 3D 'blocked') aeriel shots are juxtaposed with the substance of the debate in progress and you begin to wonder - "how did we get here, aeriel shots again??" cheesy
Politics › Re: Is Mechanical Generator D Best Solution To D Problem Of Power supply In Nigeria? by SkyBlue1: 1:31pm On Aug 31, 2008
LOL  cheesy @Jakumo you sound grumpy, abi is it your turn to pedal in your house? Enjoy your "shift" and remember your want to keep a good rythm going so that your feet don't get tired too soon.

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