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And this is ironically a good commentary on him. This was virtuali unthinkable in previous regimes....

honeric01: I don't have to waste time on your likes because they are good at covering truth.

without much ado, you can help yourself through the numerous news posted on this forum where THE PRESIDENT HINTED THAT HE KNOWS THE SPONSORS OF BOKO HARAM AND ALSO THAT OF MEND. except you want to act like the proverbial ostrich, you shouldn't even bring up this issue.
I EVEN gave you a date of the one about MEND and also that of Boko haram when it happened, IT WAS AIRED LIVE ON TV (CHANNELS AND AIT when he was shedding the normal fish tears).

http://www.gisttalk.com/jonathan-knows-the-sponsors-of-boko-haram-says-bishop/
http://www.punchng.com/news/fg-knows-boko-haram-sponsors/
http://www.punchng.com/news/boko-haram-members-sponsors-are-uncivilised-jonathan/
http://www.informationnigeria.org/2012/07/jonathan-knows-the-sponsors-of-boko-haram-bishop.html
http://www.nigeriafilms.com/news/17941/56/jonathan-gusau-azazi-and-boko-haram-sponsors.html
http://www.nigerianlive.com/2012/08/bishop-says-jonathan-knows-sponsors-of.html
http://www.cruisenigeria.com/2012/07/bombshell-president-jonathan-knows-boko-haram-sponsors-bishop/
http://africanspotlight.com/2012/07/fg-knows-boko-haram-sponsors/
http://www.gbooza.com/group/nigeriapolitics/forum/topics/fg-knows-boko-haram-sponsors#axzz2DzI7hNlS


Azazi’s problem with Jonathan had to do with the tactics of arresting the security situation. Azazi believes that the sponsors of Boko Haram should be fished out and prosecuted for terrorism [size=18pt]while Jonathan believes that the names involved are too weighty that a political backlash could occur which is capable of affecting permutations for 2015.There is a reasoning that some of those involved may be handy in the next election.[/size] The names that frequently pop up in every security reports as sponsors of Boko Haram included a few from opposition party and majority from the ruling party.

Just look at dis guy! It seems u hv no idea who u are dealing with here. Play of Words and propaganda wudn't work here; it wud be taken apart and shred to pieces... That guy and yrself said that 'GEJ SAID he knew the sponsors of BH, including those in his govt' - that was the claim, assertd unambiguously and repeatd severally. I simply askd u and d guy to defend d claim and provide links where Gej SAID dat line, and u decide to provide links telling me what smone else blivs or thinks. What the Bishop blivs (and with all due respect to him) is just as 'potent' as yrs: just mere PERSONAL blivs (by d way, i also bliv that there are northern political who are involvd in all these mess, but was mainly at d beginning cos d monster is beyond them now and their major was nt to do anything to initially try to solve d problem at d start- this is a personal belief though); it is diff from saying Gej SAID- dat is d lie....if u are nt willy to show me where he SAID, then plz stop wasting my time; hv lots of things to do, k?

joseph1832: @taharqa! You made mention of the US and her allies keeping high value terrorist in detention facilities... So they can only keep them there cause they caught them right? So why is our own government trying so hard to negotiate with terrorists! The U S has a slogan "they don't negotiate with terrorist" why is our government looking for every means necessary to negotiate with cold blooded murderers?

You seem to know a lot about the Federal Government, am surprised you didn't know when GEJ said his government is highly compromised! And you here insulting people calling them eeediots! My friend I pity the likes of you who allow tribalism and religion to lobotomize you, and become your modus operandi!

People like you voted GEJ out of pure tribal and religious sentiment. It is because of advocatus diabolis like you that Nigeria remain a backward country.a

1st of all, i didnt vote for GEJ but I SUPPORT HIM NOW (that shld be a no-brainer, right). But you are wrong my frnd if u think anything i hv said on dis thread is cos i support GEJ; its way more than him..... By d way, who told u d US 'does not negotiate with terroists' hahahahaha..so u bliv dat d US hv nt negotiated with any 'terroist' group since d 1970s when they startd mouthing dat line and made it a policy? Eva heard of 'backroom channels' in these sort of matas? Just an eg, u know d Talibans right? U shld, as just about every 'international' body including d US itself regard them as a terroist group and a top supporter of terror worldwide; yet d US is currently negotiating with them in Afganistan, Pakistan and openly in Qatar. Why? This is d group that is perhaps responsible for the single biggest deaths of US soldiers since the Korea war. Eva heard of the stori bw d UK and d IRA? U know tk d advice i gave u previously when u responded to @maximilano : there are certain things way beyond yr head that u wud need a diff perspective to look at....... Oh, less i forget-i am PERSONALLY strongly against d Nigerian govt negotiating with BH, but am humble enuf to know that my personal opinion is inconsequential to those ppl handling the current terroist/security challenges in d nation. They wud do whateva they bliv is best for the majority of d ppl of dis nation and for the nation itself regardless of what i personally feel. Have a good day Sir.

Plz can any of u here provide me a link to any of the guys in d media team of d president. Really important cos there are things am astonishd aren't happening ...

honeric01: You mean you were not around when he said he knows the sponsors of Boko haram and also mend?
where were you on October 1st?
where on you on the Massacre that occurred in Borno where almost 100 people lost their lives? that was the day he hinted Nigerians that he knows the sponsors and some of them are in his govt.

You want links?

hahahaha...na wa, who says keeping a Lie is not serious business.....@honoral or what is dat yr name again, what is stopping you from posting d link where GEJ said 'he knew d sponsors of BH, even d ppl in his govt'? Surely, u guys repeat dis line so often u can't possibly find it difficult to show where it was said. Good luck with that; u wud need it

christemmbassey: @Maxmillano et al,its a shame what a bad product can do to an inteligent minds like urs. I don't know how much they pay u guys, for u to accept mkting such a stale and lame product like gej govt. Boko haram will fizzle out? When gej who claimed that he knows them/sponsors including those in his govt. lacks the courage to arest them but is busy fighting thier fans.. Its like kicking a Man U fan and hoping that V.Persie will come up with injury. Did u listen to his BBC interview? Man, gej is bad business just drop it..

And when did GEJ ever say 'he know them/sponsors, including those in his govt'? Directly link us to where he said it... It is amazing how some of u eediots think that if u say a Lie as many times as possible, it wud smhow make it true. Pathetic..... On why d Nigerian Intelligence services keep high-value terroist suspects, i wont comment any longa on it; u opinion is too inconsequential to what those guys are doing, it is a complete waste to keep pushing it

Xplodes2700: How many Top leaders and Sub commanders do they have?

The JTF releasd a list of their top commanders and membas of their Shura council recently. Stop been a lazy azz and check d list, instead of asking silly questns...Google perhaps?

[quote author=Igbo_hater]Una never see anything . When we dey shout say make una no vote this fisherman we be like haters. U better sit back relax and enjoy his fresh FART [/quote]Mumu-ish! What do you think dis topic is about? Smone is going to test a particular law in a case whose details we know very little about, and eediots like u are already politicising it... Silly bunch of LOOSERS

Hahahaha...anyways, thanks @OP for a good morning treat

k2039: Why has the presidency not probed or sacked him,it just goes to show the typical case of kettle calling pot black.

If you bliv dis stori, then you are almost as foo.lish as the writer of dis fiction. Almost i said

[quote author=geez*]Well what can I say? It's a training. So?[/quote]Look at yr mouth, you HYPOCRITE: 'it is training, so?'. If dis story (assuming it is even completely true) were to be even remotely related to d oda side, wud u not hv already be mastur.bating about the thread with yr usual rantings?..... Hypocrite!

Good. 1 down, 21 more to go. KILL THEM ALL, and any sympathizer that just about as gives even d slightest support to these eediots.. Great job JTF, and may God keep and guide our gallant security officials who put their lives on d line everyday to protect the rest of us; may God also keep their families and may He protect those civilians that provide info to the security agents

k2039: Obviously,that's one case he knows he wont win.

Though I dont have a problem with his suit,just that I'm beginning to suspect this man has political ambitions,just trying to be popular.

Why wud you say so. If he thinks he has a case, let him go ahead and try. We are always better off when our jurispudence is testd in these kind of circumstances

Now assuming this #6.2billion is actuali to be usd for publicity (whateva dat means), then it is both wasteful and stu.pid. Howeva, i seriously doubt it; and what to see d Minister being directly quoted as saying it, and also importantly wud want to see the breakdown of the proposd Budgetary spending. Since Oct, many Nigerian newspapers reportd that the Presidency was going to use #1.3billion to feed itself cos they saw d sum as d amount proposd under the heading 'food, entertainment and other expenses' when the actual amount meant for food and entertainment for thousands of ppl (villa residents and guests) was #203million when the details of d that budgetary heading was releasd. Moreova, only #17million was approvd for publicity dis yr from d article, so it hard to bliv dat #6.2billion wud be usd for 5 yrs when only #17m was appropiatd in d main yr of lobbying for the bill..... Lets find out the details sha, and if it is true that #6billion was actuali proposd just for publicity (again, what d heell does dis mean), then it is most wasteful and shld not be approvd by d NA, period

1 Commander on the list down, 21 others to go.... Great job JTF, and may God bless and guide the gallant members of our security services who put their lives on the line everyday for our sakes

joseph1832: @maximilliano you sound like a government official!

The guy is availing you of anoda perspective and actuali using his head to do so, while you are spitting just about anything that comes to yr own head yet u hv d guts to ask him dat silly questn. Wondas!.... I dont just get it- do u guys expect that d SSS, DMI and oda Intelligence services shld be in such a haste to bring high-value terroists suspects, from whom they can obtain Real intelligence in an ongoing 'war', to the courts where overzealots Judges may want to protect d 'Rights' of the terroists and SHUT them up, just so they take into cognizance d care and ignorant rantings of sm migets on NL? Really? Who they helll do u chaps think u are? Or rather, who the helll do u guys think they think you are? Hv u guys by chance askd yrselves why d CIA still keep Sept 11 suspects in Guatanamo bay 11 yrs afta d event without taking them to court? Do u guys know why diff nations (US, Britain, etc including Nigeria lately) are promulgating laws that allow them to keep high-value terroist suspects incommunicado for at least 6 months without court trials? Hv u guys imagind for just a while that there may be a reason why d same SSS took d suspectd MEND Oct 1 terroists to court almost immediately, yet are apparently 'stalling' with the BH ones? Hv u guys eva askd yrsel....in fact forget it, dont even know why am responding. Keep up d rantings guys; its d new 'norm' on NL anyways

chess guru: It was the one single reason for the beginning of the decline of this country. How a group of 5 misguided majors single handedly diverted the course nd destiny of a nation will remain a mystery 2 me.
They open pandora's box on dis country by introducing d military on us.
Their singular action was the foundation of the biafran war (killing of d igbos in d north was a retaliation of their so called revolution)..
The list goes on and on...sadly most ppl calling for a revolution on dis NL are doing so from d safety of their laptops, in countries far away from nigeria

You have a very good head at the top of yr trunk (which is a rarity these days, esp on NL).... There are 3 events led by 3 diff gangs most responsible for Nigeria's current state more than 52yrs after independence, events that has had d greatest effect on d course of dis nation's chequed history - Nzeogwu and his gang in 1966 (without a doubt the single biggest 'causative'), Buhari and his gang in 1983 and IBB and his gang in 1993.....

@Betathing, see u are 'responding' to many posts. Abeg, extend it to my own on pg2. I wud rili like dat....by d way, that wud also enable to respond to what u just said about Yar'adua. I hv so many questns; many many questns...

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Ignorant peeps! There is a reason serious countries in d world keep top terroist suspects out of d court system as long as possible. There is a reason why most of d planners of Sept 11 attack hv been kept at Guatanamo bay and away from d court system for more than 10yrs. There is a reason no Intelligence Service worth its salt whom be in haste to get top terroist suspects to d court when d 'war' is still on-going..... Dont know d specifics about Kabiru Sokoto but what the Nigerian Intelligence services are up to in their continous 'detention' of high-level suspects is way beyond many of u guys, who are shouting here, heads

EXCELLENCE Abia: abia is from #105-#120 but as of yesterday Oando was selling #97.

#97 in Abia? Unbelievable! Is that cos of d newly repaird NNPC depot or what?

Revolva: Rubbish I sorry for this country a nation blessed with oil and calabar 250Naira its a shame what's wrong with this damm nation

B4 going ahead with yr nonsense against d 'damn nation', read d article again- the #250 is cos of d local strike by tankers drivers in cross river....@OP, i stay in Benin and Asaba. In Benin, it is #97 per litre; while in Asaba, major marketers sell at #97 per litre (though all of dem smtimes dont hv d products at d same time) while most of d oda smaller stations who hv it at all times sell at bw #105-#120

Almost complete thrash! Ask yrself how this $31bn (#5tr) was generatd: half of it came from pipeline vandalism and oil theft (imagine dat), some odas were from unverified allegations of corruptn including those that hv bn shown to be false like $50m NCC 'fraud', part of it are figures given by KPMG on reportd fraud in 9jeria most of which are fraud committd by private individuals and companies including banks etc etc. Some however are really directly linkd to govt or public officials like the #25bn Pension fund (alleged perpetuators are already in court) and of course the fuel subsidy fraud (which is the 2nd largest component of the supposd #5trn generatd figure- and cud be #1.5trn if you bliv d House of Reps figures OR #400bn if you bliv figures by a committee of forensic experts- i go with d 2nd figure for now) etc.... Like i said this is almost complete thrash ( 'almost' cos at least some of d figures are arguably correct; thrash cos some of d figures are eida false Or just allegatns still Or fraud said to be committd by ordinary Nigerians and institutns all of which the writer conveniently placd on d feet of GEJ). At d end of d day, this article is a work of PROPAGANDA; dat was d motive of d write-up, and shldn't be surprising seeing dat it is coming from elRufai

Mtscheeee....

Good

You guys should keep deceiving yourselves. It is allowed.

funkybaby: Gosh!

Sagamite and virgin finder.

You two should just stop!

'Cretin'. 'Bastard'. 'slowpoke'

Are you two not tired??

You've been at it since yesterday! Agbayas meji

Stop ke? *laughing* lady check here again tmorrow, and they would still be going at it..

Sagamite has always been this loud-mouthed noise making eediot, who believe that shouting the word 'person' at any one who just as disagrees with him even slightly, is the correct way of making arguments; and the 'new' guy is apparently doing a great job measuring up to him.

Y'll should keep shouting, when passionate support for the passage of a sound PIB bill would solve some f these matters.

Keep up the noise making NIGERIANsssss.....

Chedarking: What if the hospital did not have the drugs to treat this woman - and had to purchase them?

What if the doctor had no liquid cash to purchase said drugs?

What if the doctor had just used his last cash to treat a previous patient on credit?

What if - just that day, another patient ran off without paying after being treated on credit?

It is easy to say the right things when removed from a situation, but can you actually follow up your words with actions in a similar scenario?

And even if you can, do you expect everyone to do the same?

Yeah i understand the point you are trying to make here. That was why I started that post with this :

Assuming this version is entirely correct (the article didn't bother to provide us the views of the other party)

However, if this version is entirely correct, then every other thing I said in that post stands. Absolutely.

By the way, yes I expect everyone (including myself) to try to do the right things at all times- especially things like doing our best to save a life. This is an irreducible Expectation of any 'normal' human being. Where we fail to do so, then at the very least we shouldn't try to justify it; and should in fact try to invoke the necessary Reprimands for such behavior.

frosbel: Any doctor who refuses to attend to an emergency life threatening medical situation because of common 20k Naira has no business being a doctor, he should be fired and prosecuted.

I Concur completely (though this is without prejudice to this particular story since we actually dont have the view of the other party)

musKeeto: Maybe it's too deep, and ur just scared to fall in.
Not to derail the topic but conside this:
Is abortion wrong?

Guy, making a Decision is actually choosing a (expected or possible) Consequence; there cannot be Decision without Consequences. The value of any Decision (Good or bad) cannot be tied only to Motive (expected consequences) while completely discarding the 'actual' (possible) Consequences. As a matter of fact, the rightness or otherwise of a Decision should actually be cos of the (possible) Consequences of that decision, and not one's expectations ('motives') of the possible outcomes of the decision.

To answer your question: YES I think that Abortion is basically wrong (except on certain exceptions).

I just cant understand how any one would even attempt justifying this.

Assuming this version is entirely correct (the article didn't bother to provide us the views of the other party), then this is simply a clear case of Man's inhumanity to another, period; and the actors in this terrible drama should be arrested ASAP and tried for MURDER.

For some persons invoking 'Business' and the often unreliable attitudes of 'customers', need I remind you that this is a case of EMERGENCY (in the truest sense of that word cos 2 lives were at stake here), meaning EVERY person or institution (not least Doctors/nurses and hospitals) is bound to provide any service which can aid the saving of the lives at stake at the time- the issue of 'business' and concerns over one's experience with 'customers' should not arise in such instance at all.

Very sad that these two had to die this way; very troubling that 'normal' peeps can even have the heart to attempt to justify it.

musKeeto: An act is deemed right or wrong by the motive, not the consequence. Was the hospital's motive to get their money or kill a lady?

This is a shallow, narrow-minded 'logic' or shall I say, philosophy....