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BetaThings: Strawman argument

How is her logic/argument a strawman? What is d diff bw tracking a car (property) and tracking a human being ('property')? How is it okay for a woman not to be allowd to drive a car Or to be forcd to always walk-around with a male escort? Is this not what BH and those extremists in northern Mali want as one of their core religious demands/ideologies? What then is d diff bw many of you guys justifying this and d extremists. Little wonda BH is still flourishing in parts of d Upper north

[quote author=ndu_chucks]Outstanding. This kind of synchronization with the natural order is desperately needed, right here as well. [/quote]You shld be ashamd of yaself guy..@ 'natural order' indeed

If this news turns out to be true, it cud only mean one thing: some few persons in d security services hv bn compromisd and hv beliefs that aligns, at least in general terms, with those of BH (weda religious or political). I say dis cos i cant bliv Nigeria's Security services are this incompetent... Sm thing just shld not happen

This is a very welcome development in my view. Since a big problem now in d Power sector is the evacuation of generatd power, an efficient body like the army can help to install some of the Transmission and Distribution facilities in order to speed up the work going on by conventional contractors.... Kudos to d Army; they should do more of these nationwide as they promisd

Standing5: I am sure if the SE should invest their land involved in this oil in Palm oil business they will get more money from it. N301m won't even fix common pipeline distroyed in a week.

Brilliant comment.....I think Imo and Cross Rivers have began real moves i this direction.

But Abia..fa fa fuol

acidtalk: Bad belle of wetin now?
Because he is eating N3million worth of food everyday and he keep getting st*upid everyday or because his wife can speak english that can wife out the whole of Israel in a minute?

I am speaking for the man out there too scared to talk. My brother people are finding it hard to survive. I get loads of e.mails, calls and text messages every single day from total strangers and I hear the same cry of poverty and starvation. Currently trying to persuade 3 people not to commit suicide. One is from that useless man's state. So if people are still putting the "ethnic and religious" sentiments to select a leader, what happens when they get into office and totally forget to do the simplest of things like construction of road in their own town?

You shameless pips are still repeating this LIE (sorry, Line) that 'GEJ feeds himself with #3million everyday', abi? Una no know say that lie don dey busted since? You guys just took the Budget Sum under the heading 'Meals, Refreshments and other Miscellaneous expenses' for the whole of the Villa and simply divided it by 365 and viola it becomes: 'GEJ spends #3million to feed himself everyday'! Of course for Propaganda purposes, no need to really read through the Budget details. This was how some of you also said in October that 'GEJ and his vice would be using #1.3billion to feed themselves' next year (2013), again without looking through the details.

Anyways, the details of that sub-head has been widely reported in Nigerian newspapers recently, and we now know that only #203million is actually to be used for Meals and Refreshments out of the #1.3billion sub-head. We also now know that unlike the LIE you guys were peddling about, this #203million would actually be used not just for the 1st and 2nd families but also the hundreds of workers in the Villa (including the Domestic staff), for hundreds of people that visit the Villa every other week, for Visiting Dignitaries including State Dinners, for Presidential Retreats and hosting (eg like the one organised for the successful ParaOlympians recently), for FEC meeting 52 times a week,for Council of State meeting etc. When last did you even have the opportunity to know the amount of money Aso Rock uses to feed 'itself' item-by-item (a sort of 'state secret' before now)?Like I said that LIE have been totally busted; you guys should find another one abeg.

It is also a pity that you goons would openly say that 'GEJ is the most wasteful President in the Nation's history'! How on earth that is even remotely correct completely escapes me? I mean on what parameter was this arrived at: Overhead costs, Recurrent Budget, Deficits [/b]or what really?
GEJ has reduced [b]Overhead votes from N526billion in 2010 when he came in to N266billion in 2012 to projected N230billion in 2013(next year)-and this is the main measure of cost of Governance.
He also reduced Recurrent Component of the budget from 77.43% in 2010 to 74.43% in 2011 to 71.47% in 2012 to around 68.7% in 2013(next year).
He has also reduced Budget deficit from 3.35% of GDP in 2010 to 2.96% in 2011 to 2.85% in 2012 to projected 2.17% in 2013(next year).

Of note is that each of these cost measures increased almost every year since 1999, and GEJ not only stopped that trend but actually started to reverse it. He is also on the verge of implementing what is arguably the most radical Rationalization of the many redundant/duplicated Agencies of Govt via the Oronsaye's report. A wasteful president that has increased the foreign reserve to levels higher than when he 1st met them (ie to a more than 2-yr high of $46billion - though it decreased previously under him). Again, how can he even remotely be the most wasteful President ever? Only in you guy's HATE-FILLED minds, perhaps?

The argument can very certainly be made that MUCH MORE still needs to be done to cut cost (both on the Federal sides and the states and LGs) but to say that the costs have increased or that they are not decreasing is a LIE only shameless PROPAGANDISTS like your guys, can fathom.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/11/n1-305b-not-enough-for-refreshments-meals-presidential-villa-tells-senate/

http://www.channelstv.com/home/2012/09/19/jonathan-submits-2013-2015-expenditure-frameworks-to-senate/

http://www.punchng.com/news/fec-approves-draft-budget-of-n5trn-for-2013/

Demdem: Foool, u are simply toying with ur pathetic soul. provide whatever, it wont change the fact that the Retardeen and his fellow Aso gluttons currently feast on 1Billion worth of food.

hahaha..God don catch you tday @Demdem. Whereva wud i run to tday; how can i possibly extracate myself from this LIE i hv bn telling like 4eva- shee na him dey go tru yr mind since...Bwahahaha..a MUMU-ish cannot wash off o, it is in him

Demdem: Foool, only fellow Aso gluttons like u will continue to ask the obvious. still expecting me to answer is even sickening
That retardeen and his fellow Aso gluttons currently eat approx 1Billion naira worth of food is a well known fact.

Yea, well known only to yr derangd mind and those small minds you are even slightly beta than (chai! Just imaging dat alone...)..anyways, still toy-ing with your head though; when i feel like i wud provide an info and stay back and watch u self-destruct....ehmm, where were we again......

jesse8048: This country, the more I read news from different angles the more I get confused and the more the truth seems to be FAR from me.

Bwahahaha...o boy na wa o..

So they had fuel all along but were hoarding it, just as NNPC hv bn claiming.... Nigerians are a special class of persons in deed

eaglechild: Why should this crap be on the frontpage?

Well, maybe cos we hv eediots as Mods (sic?) and an extremely gullible NL 'public' who wud bliv just about any thing as long as it is typed and postd smwhere

I hope the 6 months period means WITHIN d period. I hope that sm of these private cops wud take ova b4 March nx yr once they are tru with d final payments.. Actuali i wish they can even kick PHCN out and take over nx wk

Demdem: Foool, again I state that am not bound to show ur miserable kind anything. Showing a known retardeen arsehole an info the vast majority on this thread knows about is a waste am ain't interested in. U can kiss my arse again, it doesn't change the fact that the retardeen and his fellow aso gluttons currently feast on approx 1 billion maids worth of food.

Hahaha...@Demdem where did GEJ use #1billion naira to feed himself and his family? Simple keshion...even the daftest twit wud hv undastud d keshion and answerd it by now (ie if he not also a gutless LIAR sha).....hahaha, you hv said a lie for so long that even you the Liar 'honestly' believe d lie. How pathetic

jide4lagos: Are u with ur senses at all? U beta get urself a lyf and equip ur silly tiny brain the knowledge of wht islam and muhammed(SAW) stand for and more importantly the happenings around you. Odeoshi

What exactly does Islam and Muhammd stand for? Abeg answer the guy. An average of 80 persons die every week from suicide bombers in diff countries in d world, and ALL d bombers are MUSLIMS who say they are fighting for Islam and Mohammed.... Islam has bn let down by a very small group of derangd and brainwashd extremists, and by a majority of Moderates who are so clueless as to what they ought to do to 'save' whateva is left of d image of d religion (the favorite response of these moderates been to manufacture conjectures in a desperate measure to salvage dis image). It is not working

lacasa: PDP hits another one

May God rest the souls of the dead.


Naa ​ so​ we go dey-dey till 2015

OKPEE-ish...am sure it was PDP that killd 7 Shias in pakistan yterday or 21 persons in iraq same day or the bombings in Kenya, Turkey, Syria etc....no problem, u northern Muslims shld keep blaming everything for the atrocities of yr misguided brothers- JTF, poverty, injustice, Mossad, US, kanuris, Igbos, CAN- who is losing? Whose region is bn grounded and peoples killd (apart from sm xtians who hv unfortunately bn caught up in 'battle for Allah' by sm derangd twits). Keeg supporting BH

Sincere 9gerian: This report by the publicity arm of ACN (Punch) is a naked and WICKED lie. It is shocking that any sensible person will believe the conclusion by the Farouk report that N2.6trillion (part of so called Punch phantom total of N5trillion stolen by GEJ) fuel subsidy fund was stolen in 2011. First and foremost is that the records of the finance ministry and CBN show that about N2.1 trillion was the total amount spent on subsidy in 2011. A good percentage of this fund was used to bring in fuel in 2011 as CONFIRMED by the fact that most part of Nigeria was WET with fuel, fuel was everywhere and sold at official price of N65 in 2011. No single scarcity was recorded in 2011. I challenge anyone to dispute this FACT. This does not however rule out the fact that fraudulent marketers used weaknesses in the system to steal some of the money. But the narrative of Punch and Farouk, that ALL the N2.1 trillion budgeted for fuel subsidy in 2011 was STOLEN is a WICKED and DEVILISH lie, believed only by FOOLS.
Those who are wise and with brains should have asked Punch why it gave us the total subsidy payment for year 2006, 2007 and 2008 only? What about subsidy payments for 2009 and 2010? Was subsidy not paid in those years? Almighty God will punish those who use deliberate distortion of facts and lies to push cheap for political gains. Punch deliberately omitted those years because the subsidy payments were high- around N500 to N700billion. Punch should have also told Nigerians the official pump price of fuel vs landing cost of imported fuel in those years.
It is also SHOCKING that crude oil theft was added to the Punch fiery tale of N5trillion stolen by Jonathan and Patience. Ladies and gentlemen, is GEJ the person stealing crude oil all over the Niger delta? Even GEJ had recently given a marching order to the security forces to stamp out crude oil theft.
Another issue that i find disturbing is the attitude of the opposition always attempting to steal the show in govt's attempt to sanitise troubled sectors. It usually begins by Govt setting up a committee or panel to investigate certain issues or a sector and make recommendations. All of a sudden the opposition will hijack the either the committee or the findings and now labels the govt as crook or as one trying to hide something. This development is unfortunate.

Now God bless you. You said most of what i wantd to say...imagine that half of this supposd '#5trn' came from pipeline vandalism and oil theft in d ND..abeg, let me go cool water joor, the weather is hot

emmatok: Fool I was actually expecting you to reply the way you did.

Look here boy we know you type, in this 9ija we have have see both OBJ and YARADUA boys bite the dust when their masters regimes are over.
Yours won't be different.

YOU WILL SURELY BITE THE DUST.

hope you won't change your username when the time comes.

@Demedem abeg change yr username back and answer my question. Dont have time for silly patters

The Bureau of Public Enterprises on Friday received bank guarantees worth over $300m, or N52.9bn, from preferred bidders for the successor companies of the Power Holding Company of Nigeria.

The agency, which made this known in a statement signed by its Head, Public Communications, Mr. Chukwuma Nwokoh, said the guarantee was in line with the payment mechanism for the sale of the generation and distribution companies.

A breakdown of the figure showed that the preferred bidders for the distribution companies submitted bank guarantees valued at over $100m, or N29.7bn, while bidders for the generation companies provided guarantees worth $147,378,680.15, or N23.2bn.

The statement said the National Council on Privatisation had approved the payment mechanism on October 29, at its sixth meeting for 2012, which took place at the Presidential Villa in Abuja.

It explained that the process involved the submission of an additional bid security in the form of a letter of credit or bank guarantee for 15 per cent of the transaction value to the BPE.

[b]“The preferred bidders are required within 15 business days of notification from the BPE to submit a “Preferred Bidder’s Bank Guarantee,” the statement said, noting that the deadline for provision of the bank guarantee was Friday, November 23, 2012.

Based on the process approved by the NCP for the privatization, the BPE is now expected to invite the preferred bidders for negotiation; a process BPE Acting Director, Electric Power Department, Mr. Ibrahim Babagana, recently said was likely to start in the first week of December.

Explaining the process further, the statement said, “Within 15 business days after signing of the Sale and Purchase Agreement, the Shareholders’ Agreement or the Performance Agreement, whichever is earlier, or at a mutually agreed earlier time, the bidder shall make a down payment of 25 per cent of the share purchase price.”

It said that after paying 25 per cent of the share purchase price, the bidders would be given their bank guarantees back.

It said, “Within six months after signing of the Sale and Purchase Agreement or the Shareholders’ Agreement, whichever is earlier or mutually agreed upon time, the Bidder will be required to pay the outstanding 75 per cent of the share purchase price to complete the transaction.

“After this, the successor company will be handed over to the preferred bidder, concluding the [/b]

http://www.punchng.com/news/phcn-privatisation-preferred-bidders-provide-n52-9bn-bank-guarantees/

emmatok: Excuse mr mister,

Are you the latest member of the GEJ laptop squad.

Will your SHUT your mouth there you Goon...when all your guys nonsense have failed and you guys rae dumbfounded by counter-info provided by others, you guys would play this DUMB 'laptop card'. Una no dey shame?

The info is right there and is falsifiable; go ahead and falsify it if you can. Write any comment and watch be falsify same instead of beating round the bush as you guys are wrought t do(ie if i dont agree with it)

@Demdem, if no bi say yr head dey chuck hw wud GEJ use #1billion to feed himself and his family in 2012 (according to you) and yet he is asking for just #203million for himself and his family as well as State Dinners for visiting Dignitaries, the hundreds of people that work in d villa, the hundreds of people that visit the villa every oda week, the state house correspondents that report d villa every day, presidential retreats and hosting of events like d Paraolympians recently, FEC meetings 52 times a yr, Council of State meetings etc (at least according to this article)? Explain d stark diff, abi dat Info don still EXPIRE?... But yr MUMU-ism ehm! *laughing*

Demdem: Foool, as if i know u wont understand. Ur air filled brain isnt configured to understand such. U were begging arsehole with ur tails in between ur legs and i categorically told u that we have gone beyond that. U are much more daft that i initially envisaged sha.
its up to u to come to any conclusion u deem fit afterall its a free world It doesnt change the fact that the Retarden and his fellow Aso gluttons are currently consuming approx 1 Billion naira of Gucci rice and Polo Cassava bread . besides just like u have stated, its my wish that that laugh will surely kill u Gluttons like u dont live long afterall

Okay u say i 'misunderstood' you; oya stop foooling yrself foool and post the any evidence for d info i hv bn asking for which you just restartd in this last comment..i dont know how to tell u again o- i hv askd gently, demanded for it, begged u for it, shamed u for it- all so u wud just give up the info if it has nt expird that is, lol; haba, stop writing plenty grammar nd just do, na....

idirect: Park well abeg The arguably most critical bill been handled by arguably the most corrupt public servant and with some useless advert. Should we been dancing around otueke because of a useless bill whatsoever

Oh! My Gush! But some ppl can be so transparently childish sha... Chai! IGNORANCE

Demdem: Fool, we have gone beyond that am not bound to show u anything neither am i interested in doing whatever u ask me to do. not to an iidiot like u u av proven ursef to be very useless
that doesnt change the fact that Ebele Retardeen Jonathan and his fellow Aso gluttons currently consumes approx 1 billion naira worth of food for year 2012.

Bwhahahaha..abeg @Demdem no use laugh killi me, hahahaha..'we hv gone beyond that', just listen to yrself! So d INFO you usd to come to dat Lie (sorry, Line) which you hv bn singing with for almost a year has EXPIRED, abi? *laughing*. Sm ppl are just so predictable...

Demdem: Fool, u said a thread was created for it, why don't u reference the thread than asking me to bring it forward. (is there anything u do for ursef at all? asking me to do this and that, u are mad oooo). Why are u this daft? U expect me to bring Oct news come November na so ur useless brain they work?
Again I reinstate that Retardeen and his Aso gluttons are currently devouring approx 1 billion naira of food for this current year. The wise knows this and several peeps even on this thread makes reference to this.
Only fellow gluttons like u will deny such demanding reference lying that I promised to show u whereas I didn't say such things.
I have shown all that u aren't just a bigger liar but a fellow Aso Glutton.
Shameless iidiots, that food will choke u all to death.

Okay foool, am 'begging' u na: since you just made the claim again, just put me to shame by providing any shred of evidence where 'GEJ spent #1billion to feed himself and his family'. See me see trouble o? You made a claim, man up to it na. Chai! Propagandists and Facts *laughing* I use yr name tk 'beg' you, abeg...

MUMU-ish peeps! Instead of una to discuss the content of what is arguably the most critical bill in 9ja's legislative history which wud completely turn-around and reform the Oil/Gas industry, and see how we can finally push tru a bill that powerful entrench interests (International and local) hv been undermining in d last 6 yrs, na whether an advert call am 'Deziani bill' na im una see..... So it is true what they say: NL has gone to d dogs; intellectually lazy Kids with access to phones and free MB every wia ... *smh vigorously*

Demdem: Foool, where did I promise to show u anything? I prefer to invest my time feeding my dog bingo than to waste my time delivering u from ur curse. U bloody liar.
As at October, that was the news so continue to expose ur foolishness. It's in u. ODE. Retardeen lapdog.

'As at Oct that was the news..', just listen to a certified MUMU-ish talk! Who put or rather misinterpretd the 'news' if not you Foool? Oya bring dat 'news' forward again now na? Are u nt ashamd of yrself? Just answer the damn questn and provide evidence where 'GEJ and his family spends #1billion for feeding' at any time whatsoever; you hv said this probably more than a 100 times here on NL, except you are nw accepting dat u are a congenital LIAR show it. How wud smone be saying smthing repeating for a long time and cant give any reason for such, you shameless Slime

oyb: sound more like the commencement of operation eject the drinkard from the rock

more to the point, it looks like most of the funds for objs mosque are public funds, going by the donators

Is yr 'father' the drinkard? Such behaviour can be taken care of nowadays though

[quote author=geez*]
Okay just took a good look at it again. I think it moves both ways but don't bet on it till it's complete [/quote]So Bros why hv you been running yr mouth since when you did know what the hell you were talking about. Must you ppl 'talk' on every issue; ignorant peeps talking confidently, pisses me off every time ! And you place a 'smilee' at d end of yr comment, were u laughing at yrself there? *smh*.... By d way, none of you noise makers hv done anything with d info that smone gave about the project been ran by a private consortium; if true, what again was all d noise making about?

odum desmond: Who said that our great party, the PDP is not rapidly transforming Nigeria? By the time we would concede power to opposition party in the next 50 years, Nigeria would ve be a completely developed world! Virtually all rail tracks are been upgraded to standard guage, new modern trains are coming in to run on them, abuja mono rail project is fast approaching commissioning, by 2014,dual engine trains fired by either electricity or diesel will be transporting thousands of passenger around abuja, Kadu tracks are already coming up, a rail line from port harcourt through many states to maiduguri has is undergoing upgrade. The Lagos-Abuja track is commencing operation 2014, it is estimated that the speed of the train will reduce distance from Lagos to Abuja to only 3hours. A lot is going on but Nigerians will have to be patient to see our great party deliver on its promises. PDPPPPPPPPP, power to the people.

Bros u be PDP memba? I hail o. Only say me i no like PDP, infact i hate their guts; but maybe u wud feel bera sha if you know that this is also how i feel about ACN, CPC and oda larger parties right now..... Every oda thing you said about the rail development going on both on the existing rails and new ones are on point; the FG is on point in this respect. Again guy, i hail...

Shouldn't this info-seeking thread be on the frontpage?.... By d way, does this mean that 'negotiation' is now completely out of necessity? Do the security guys now more confidence that the hv much beta intelligence to take down these eediots Or is it cos they just consider this move necessary?

GREAT sights! Beaurifu... Railways constructions and reconstructions/rehabilitations are going-on across parts of the nation in ways neva witnessd in d nation's history: Fashola's inter-Lagos modern rail lines are stridding on; the FG rehabilitation of all existing narrow guages across the nation (the 2 lines Lagos-kano and PH-maiduguri and dier branches, with trains now running on most parts of Lagos-Kano) is also stridding on; Abuja-kaduna Standard guage also on-going and at around 48% completion; inter-Abuja Standard rail lines on-going as well; Standard guage Ajaokuta-Aladja-Warri track already fully laid (and beautiful stuff i might add) and nearing final navigational completion; while Lagos-Ibadan Double track is just barely starting. Dont know right now d state of Calabar monorail construction by d Cross River govt at present.... Bottom-line: gr8t things are in d offing but eternal vigilance needed as usual

taharqa: Just look at d way you chose yr qualifiers carefully: i wont inflict pain on DECENT human being, esp in dier place of worship, you say. So what of if the human being is not 'decent'? I hv had discussions with ordinarily sane Muslims who almost by default use these kinds of qualifying words esp 'innocent'; the questn i find myself asking is who defines the 'innocense' of a human being? Is it just any person or any group or an islamically constituted authority? Cos i think dis questn is at the heart of the kind of terroism we see in d world today.... For eg, who or what defined the 'innocence' or other wise of that Igbo tailor who was said to hv mispronouncd and then insultd d Prophet yterday; who also determind d 'innocense' of oda 'innocent' Igbos that died cos of d misundastanding? The mob? Lets just cut the chase: wud you determind all by yrself the 'innocence' of a person who insultd the prophet in yr presence, and if you had a knife wud u use it then and there? Or wud you wait for a constitutd authority to pass judgement?

Am reposting this comment @ezeufi, plz respond with direct and straight answers just to clarify sm things about how sm ppl 'interpret' yr religion