₦airaland Forum

naijababe:
Haba!!! Wetin dem do you? 

[size=16pt]Ma sis, alot!

Can't you see?  Our money dey for their belle o o - ah!  [/size]

rabzy:
There is little those kids can bring home to the family and they are way too young. But in our villages some these kids just carry those stuff to deliver to their mother's customers down the road or in the next street. I have not seen kids this small hawking in the streets of Lagos except accompanied by older siblings, and most times they just want to tag along and they cry if you don't take them. So their parents just put a miniature tray on their head ask them to follow their older siblings.

In some rural areas too, schools are so far away and ill-kept with no purpose in the teaching that it would equally be child abuse to send kids to such schools. In Nigeria the fact is, its not all school age kids that their parents can afford to send to school, its not all  kids that are interested in going to school and its not all places that schools are accessible.

i once had a family friend whose first son was always repeating classes and failing while his younger brother had passed him and was two years his senior. The father eventually asked him what he wants to do and the guy said he wants to be an 'eleran', a butcher. He dropped out of primary school and became a butcher. Before he graduated as a butcher or become independent, he had to hawk meat on the streets for his master, initially his master would be with him but later he was doing it himself. By the time he was 17, he was already an accomplished butcher. He could handle a cow and butcher it in minutes and that is what he lives on now. He already had a family long before i could think of talking to a girl.

Yeah, i believe we should all try as much as possible to reduce the number of kids we have. The government must have a policy of enlightenment and the campaign must be sustained. What shocks me most is that after seeing the struggle my parents did to raise us, my uncles also had numerous kids, the average was 7. My parents only had their standard 6 education, but all my uncles on both sides had more than that and they still were having 7, 8 kids.

Though they are not doing badly, their kids did not hawk like we did, they have built their own small house unlike us, but its a risk am not willing to take. Anything can happen in this country, there are no guarantees in this life. Just two days ago, i heard its like one of my uncles has been retrenched, in one of the airline servicing companies, though we have not confirmed it, he was their quality control manager and he was doing quite well financially, but what happens now and he still has little kids. Those ones can't even hawk if push comes to shove because they have lived a sheltered life.

Its wrong for the first child or the first kids to be working and taking care of their parents and also fending for the last ones. Its energy sapping and you can hardly plan your own life.

Guy, where did you get your common sense? 

Are there some left over, we could all share, on here?  Your mum raised a perfect gentleman, honest!  And, if you're not married, I envy the woman that would win your heart because, you'd make a perfect Husband and Son-Inlaw.

You think things through and, have so much empathy on others perhaps, due to the hardship you and your sibblings experienced growing up - what a man! You're considering and analysing every aspect of the issues - the implications of such irresponsible behaviour on the eldest children especially, the first and second child of the family who always bore the brunt of most sufferings in the family. 

They're usually, the first to be woken up early in the morning to go and fetch water or go sell akamu, akara and for those in the villages, join their mothers and fathers in the farm, before the sun rise - just pray, it wasn't the Harmatan season when you'd be shaking like a leaf in those your small pins! (Hey, childhood in Africa, we're analysing here remember?)

But, I want to know why we need so many people on earth? What we need, is it not to provide quality life, education, quantum love and affection for our children so that, they do not experience the hard life we endured, from our parents.

Now, considering the picture you painted above and with the level of education you had, I'm sure that experience thought you one thing or two about life.  You don't seem like someone who would embrace 6/7 children like them or, would you?

Well, they say, 'experience is the best teacher' and I must inform, all young members of our family have learnt from our parents experiences and, I hope others do too, as there's so many people in the world today, with very little resources left to support us all soon, we'll all be eating each other for food, when there's not enough food, to go round. 

Hope, everyone remembered what happened 2 year ago, when Rice was scarce in the World Market - that's just a tip of the iceberg of what's yet to come?

Ournaija:
These leaders are talking as if they smoked overdose of weed. Instead of integrating commerce in the region, putting good infrastructures in place and ensuring that poverty is reduced, they are there talking of a railway project that will never see the light of the day from Lagos to Calabar, as if Lagos is Haven. If they cherish Lagos so much, why not create another Lagos in the SS with so much fund generated in the area. Fooolss

That's the issue! 


To me, Lagos is like a foam sponge - it soaks up every resources, to tinniest drop of it yet, i no dey show for im body.

Lagos has been soaking up National resources since Slave Trade (1400's) yet, some part still look like Aba if not worse.  No disrespect here, in comparison, Aba is only a baby with teething problems that can be fixed quickly if Enyimba people could work together as a team. 

Please, let's reduce the level of investments being poured into Lagos rather, concentrate on other cities that contributes also, to the growth/development of Nigerian. 

You see, Lagos has had it's time.  The day the Federal Government moved out of Lagos to Abuja, that's when Lagos lost it's glamour therefore, give the young a chance to grow their full potential - that's what I say.

It's time Nigeria stop this madness about Lagos, enough money wasted in a city that's already developed it's potential, and if some say she hadn't - what is she waiting for, all these years?

If in doubt, now check these dates when LAGOS first hit HISTORY book:

[list]
[li]The Potugese first visited 1472[/li]
[li]The British colonised 1861[/li]
[li]Lagos became the Federal Capital in 1914[/li][/list]
Tell me, isn't it time to nurture other small towns/cities and let the GRANDMA rest the bones, a bit 

Now, waiting for my critics to throw up all those hates lurking inside, for speaking the truth! Go on, bring it up!!!!

chaircover:
Many of us are forgetting one small detail which is that in our culture children are seen as gifts from God and also as a sign of fertility and prowess.

It is only now that we are beginning to see people gradually cutting down on the number of kids that they have.

Many of our parents had 4 or above while our generation on average have 2 kids.

Truth be told, many of these illiterates don't even know or have access to family planning.

To me, the sad picture that we saw on the first page is everyones responsibility;

The parents to cut down on the number of kids that they have, the Govt to provide jobs so that hard working and able men can work and bring money home without having to resort to child labour etc, the govt also has to provide family planning at grassroot level, and us as individuals to look out for the less privileged in the society and help them when we can. There is nothing wrong with us sponsoring a child or two through school and to pay our drivers and gardeners a decent wage and on time etc.

We all have a responsibility.

Yes Chaircover, you are absolutely right! God bless you for speaking the truth!

But my take is, our men are the culprit here - they should consider their circumstances carefully and tie their sausages very tight on their tighs so that they don't make another innocent child a victim of their own circumstance.  

Because, our culture gave women no rights over these things - we have no rights over our own bodies, to determine whether we want children or not and how many?  

It is the man that dictates the number of children his wife should have and society supports him in that (including women themselves - afterall, we are our worst enemies) and that's the trouble.  The contract is not in written form but it's implied, with pressure on women to submit and they usually do, that's why we are looking at these innocent little girls here, being abused by their own parents and society, abi?

What can a woman do when the Law and Culture are not on her side and she has no backbone of her own - no education, job, trade etc with which to challenge such evil ideas.  You see, risking someone else's life is better than risking your own, abi?  That's why women are pressed to undergo several childbirths, in their husbands quest for more children, they can not afford to feed, how foolish!

The men can only abuse, unfortunate illitrate and naive women and certainly, not someone like yourself and I and there's quite a few of us around you know - that's the worry!!

Pastor Kun:
@elderlolo
Rccg wouldn't go to any of the countries you just listed cause there is no 'market' there. It is their policy to go to only countries where there is a ready population of Nigerian believers that they can generate revenue from.

You see, I am not here to say what you said is correct or not rather, my take in the argument is, why would a Church of God have Aeroplanes in the first place?  They claimed, they are used for the work of God when Jesus had no shoes let alone a bicycle?  

What happened to humility? The Apostle Paul, trekked and sometimes sailed in ships all over Europe and he even hiked all the way to Asia to preach the word of God, and in those trips only God knows how many times the ship he was in, capsized and he nearly lost his life, and at one point, got bitten by snake for the word of God.

Why wouldn't these generation of Pastors, who claim they serve God emulate Jesus Christ and the Apostle Paul?  Do what they did, if you're really following Christ.

I once heard one of the Pastor's of this Church in Ireland claiming they need the Aeroplanes to be able to visit their million branches and attend to the needs of their congregations all over the world and I say, really??

But, who say that doing the work of God is easy, and that to be a true Christain is simple.  No wonder, there is so much emphasis on tithing in this Church I heard, and that's enough to put one off, getting to know God!  To win souls is what Jesus said, and not to bleed people through tithing! Yes tithing for the work of God is good, but not a priority - winning souls for Jesus Christ, is.

The work of God requires sacrifices and suffering, ok! Because, Ministry work these days is full of Milikie, that's why there are so many Pastors/Churches every where you go. 

If there is much suffering as Jesus days were, no one would dare call themselves a Pastor, unless if you are one of Jesus disciples.  Our God has a sense of humour you know, he's not like you! )

No, it is not easy - you have to deprive yourself alot of worldly pleasure and material wealth just like, Jesus Christ and Paul did to serve God in ernest - for you can not serve God and Mammon (the Bible told, us!)!

A Church owns an Aeroplane and I ask, who maintains it? I mean, who is paying for the fuel to keep it in air and the airport taxes?  Who is paying the Pilots and Engineers that maintains it? I don't think that members of this Church really ask questions at all, they just sat there and get brain washed with scripture verses, their leaders practices fail short of, or do not align with.

Some would say, Paul used the technology available to him at their time and we are using the one available to us in our time, really?  Well, I have news for you!

You see, the technology available to Jesus Christ and Paul in their times, were their feet and wooden ships and we still have them even till today in fact, much efficient ones than Paul would ever dream of. 

Therefore, you lot should use them and stop bleeding and putting your naive church members under financial stress, in search of money to maintain your lifestyles, in the name of doing God's work - for our God is a God that searches and judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart (Hebrew Chpt. 4 v. 12).

danjohn:

Yeah, everything must be blamed on Goodluck Jonathan - no be so??

Na Goodluck Jonathan made these babies, abi.

Instead of blaming irresponsible parents for having more than they can chew - having more children than they can feed/clothe/educate thus risking the lives of their young babies in the streets as they scanvage for their daily bread - go on, blame it on Jonathan!!

Imagine, things are already hard for these parents now, that the kids are only under 5yrs old and are yet to started proper school - just wait for it! Kids are born and left to get on with whatever life throws at them as if they begged, to be born? 

Time will tell, as some would end up in prostitution and perhaps their brothers, in armed robbery (intimidating and stealing from innocent people, what they worked hard for) in order to survive - now tell me how beautiful, that is!!  These parents have certainly, done a beautiful job of their children for society, eh?

The role of a father is to provide and protect his children.  Now tell me, in your eyes, how are these little girls protected in these wild streets full of criminals and paedophiles, who could be secretly touching, feeling and even  r a p i n g  them at the back-yards of their stores, sheds and houses without anyone knowing or even the kids telling their parents for the fear of being victimised again?

It seems no one is seriously using their upstairs here. Think people, think - this is evil!!

Sun of god:
GEJ - Keep delegating your responsibilities.

The bottom line is you should act as referee between the ministers. They should answer to you and you only.

You now have a 'ticking timebomb' on your hands. Its only a matter of time before things explode.

The silly woman has already basically said her immediate area's of focus is everything from tourism to finance to agriculture to security to oil revenue to projects to this that and the other.

So no doubt she has every intention of treading on everyone's toes.

You've basically made her minister of everything and the other ministers are her 'front men/women'.

Each minister should be allowed to do whats best for their ministry without being dictated to by another minister.

This lady is going to be bad for Nigeria - Just like Sanusi she's has no intention of serving Nigeria.

The ministers need to come together and petition GEJ - if he doesn't play ball then the next thing is to impeach him.

Hey buddy, what's wrong with delegating responsibilities, then?  Is it not part and parcel of leadership/management style?

Now, let's clarify this - when Obasanjo was in power as the President, was he also the Defence Minister, Finance Minister, Education etc, eh? Or were those roles delegated to other people?   So, what's wrong with one delegating a duty as long as he/she keeps an eye on the ball, huh? 

You see, sometimes your arguments on here are very unreasonable to the point that, one can only percieve nothing but hate floating all over the place in your posts. Such attitude can't get us any where in this country - just give praise where it's due because they say, 'if you can't beat them, join them'!!!

And now, let's discuss this issue about Ngozi? How is Ngozi silly?

Could you please, explain??  Do you love your country at all? Or are you triggering my suspicion that you might be one of those politician's children/relative who are angry because, their milikie has been stopped as their fathers were voted out of office this last election? Are you one of them or was your Minister Uncle a victim of the election, too? Declare yourself  let's see where you're coming from?

What matters, is it threading on everyones toes or ensuring that all our country's revenues are appropriately accounted for, in order to get on with re-building our shattered economy?  Hey, what's your priority??

I wish the President will go further to engage the services of other intelligence and skilled Nigerian ladies as Ngozi - and there's quite a number of them in wait, who could do a better job, I can assure you.   Afterall, women are better managers - Margaret Thatcher managed Britain and the world saw what she did. Therefore, those career politician who think our money is free-for-all will now realise, time's up for them!!

Listen, if you're not quite sure what Ngozi's role is about - it's about ensuring CHECKS AND BALANCES in our economy/country, ok?

The lady is like an accountant, she's employed to account to the country, everything that brings money to Nigerian economy (INCOME) - including INCOME FROM THOSE PETTY BUSINESSES/JOBS like, the street Mechanics, corner shop owners, market stall owners, Mama Akara and Mama put in Nigerian streets all over the counrty, via rates/taxes they should and must pay to their local government before they could even open their doors to the public i.e. before they could even fry any sham sham or repair my car down the road.

This is because, the money they make and not accounting for, through paying their local business rates/taxes, are Income the Government is loosing out and that income is liable to be taxed!!  

So, by owing their State Government un-paid taxes, they subsequently owe the economy and that's the revenue Ngozi should account for, if you don't know.

In addition, her watchful eyes are also on how our money is spent by these rogue Ministers (EXPENDITURES) e.g. there's no need to award a contract to repair/maintain Ajegunle road, only for them to give us a receipt for GRADING IT INSTEAD, Abi?.  

We need to get our money's worth for job well done that is, get exactly what we paid for - what's wrong with that??  So, stop insulting someone's mother here, ok?

It seems things are getting too complicated for you to hark/understand, abi? Just wait for it!!  Nigerian Ministers have had it too good for a long time.  They'd been used to not accounting for any thing they are responsible for, and now things have changed and they are complaining, why? They better get used to this too, or leave our office.

Nashville:
The president cannot change the constitution by himself, it has to go through the national assembly so it is very difficult. Some sections of the country will never have ministers if it was based strictly on merit ir having technocrats, so we have to live with having political jobbers as ministers in the name of federal character.

To return to the main discussion, these ministers need to know someone is monitoring them and they cannot continue serving their own masters. If they have problems with it, then they should resign. After all Ngozi honorably resigned during the Obasanjo administration!

And if you say GEJ is delegating his responsibilities, I agree with you, but if the man knows he doesn't have all (or most) of the solution, there is no problem seeking a helping hand. After all there is no law that says the president should be the smartest!

From your response, you seemed un-Democrat - you seemed as if you're the Judge, the Jury and the Executioner.

Everyone knows the President alone can not change the Constitution?  

Constitutions are made to be changed, to suit the time in which it applies.  Our time is different therefore, the 1960's, 70's , 80's or even 90's of yesterday can not apply.

Yes, it is difficult to change any constitution even the American Constitution which is so entrenched, and the toughest in the World to amend/change as the 50 states had to say 'Yes' for 'a single letter/word' of that Constitition to be removed or amended.  However, the difficulties does not prevent it from getting done, if the American people needs it.  Of course, it calls for series of campaigns and political lobbying, television debates etc to get it done and it is done.  

In terms of our own and, because of mass illitracy in our country, our people need to be well informed too, on the  issues, benefits/disadvantages of it via different modes of communication available, to get the message across to them so that, they can judge for themselves and cast their votes accordingly.

Secondly, being educated or technoBRAT is not really a criteria to qualify one as a Minister - it also calls for integrity and Nigeria/other countries in the majority world  lacked that compared to their counterpart in the minority world .  Yet, not all Ministers, MP's with Portfolios in the minority world, are sqeaky clean and their governments still get by.

For me, the only issue with that idea is that, Nigerian politicians lack dignity and respect for themselves. They are not known to resign their position when caught up with controversy, just as their counterparts would do perhaps, I'll blame it on poverty and greed due to the family background some came from.  

Therefore, the politicians should consider what is best for the country - to continue as it is, or break from the old.  Our
politicians are aware that, we voted them in and we will vote them out if they fail to deliver what we - the people want/need at least, they saw what happened in the last election - Democracy spoke and I'm sure, some lost their seats in the fairest election ever had in this country!

Also, if pressure is put on them to deliver the goods, it would trigger competition among them to do something tangible for their respective states and people, before leaving office.  Afterall, none would like to be seen or remembered by the people they represent as 'evil' who did nothing for his people, and History will definitely re-call it.

So, we have to amend our constitution to meet our present day needs as well as elect skilled politicians with integrity and foresight and if we don't have them then, we raise them through serious vetting and our votes.

Nashville:
Gbawe,
I like all the analysis you have given thus far. There is absolutely nothing wrong in having a first amongst equals and I think Ngozi is the right person for the job. One problem we have though is the constitution that stipulates that each state should produce one minister. It means we will have at least 36 ministers that will be nominated by state governors who we all know are mostly theives. That leaves GEJ with very few technocrats to appoint.
So if GEJ cannot change the constitution overnight as he has to accept these political jobbers from the PDP, the least he can do is to warn them that it wouldn't be business as usual. Me I agree he should warn them because most of them do not have our country's interest at heart and the silly constitution should be changed. We dont need 36 minister!

[size=16pt]If this is a problem, change the Constitution.  Our constitution is not Moses Law - it's not set on stone therefore, change it to suit our present day societal needs and not the 1970's.  

If we are to go to the polls again, come on Nigerian let's go and change this handicap constitution that is not taking us anywhere fast.  It's killing us, why keep it??

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ferari90:
I WILL NOT ENGAGE IN A MEDIA BATTLE WITH OBASANJO- IBB



By Omowaleola Oladitan, Lagos


“The number of high profile deaths by assassinations and politically motivated killings during Obasanjo’s eight years is more than any other in the history of this country. Besides, is it not curious that after Obasanjo’s exit, there has not been any reported case of plane crashes”.

banttieman:
You are way OUT OF POINT. I've got nails like you, I tend to it the way I like.
I've got no pus.sy like you to clean monthly.
About lipsticks, non of your business if I use.
Just let people be. Why make a hell of noise over other people? Aproko

Guilty Conscience is stiffling some on here, abi? 

Well, since you chose to attack me for expressing my views on this topic like everyone else, here are some news for you!

If a real man and so innocent of the alleged, why jump out of your pram to vindicate yourself, huh?

Goes to show, that the adage 'No smoke without fire' is absolutely spot on.

Well, CHECK THIS OUT, 'If you're not ON it, you're IN it', and 'If you're NOT it, certainly, you've CURIOSITIED it'.

Maybe, you liked what you found hence, the behaviour! And since you liked it, why not get a push-up bra, a dress or mini-skirt or a long shirt and leggings to match plus, your eye-shadow, lipstick and a weave to compliment?

Sure sister, it's called, getting in touch with your feminine side, abi?  Wondering why, you'd been unable to 'pad your bum this month' - pregnant?? Sure, with this it means, our feminine side is actually, ticking!

Welcome, on board, my sister and may I ask, when is it due??

Don't panic, the baby shower is on your sister, meeeee!

Looser! Just get a life!!