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The Mancs are turning the screw now but are still not stringing enough passes together.

shilox:
I agree with you tocdee. They have being having lesson classes since Liverpool taught them the big one.

Yup! They said that Liverpool's BIG lesson would only make them stronger but they've been dazed since then; conceding 9 goals in 3 and a half games! These guys are lucky they got to face arguably the weakest team remaining in the UCL.

Porto are teaching the mancs a few things in football!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

That score-line ACTUALLY flatters Fulham. Shoulda been 7-0

Lawd sooo many bitter people here! Liverpool all the way!!!

@ Sauron

What is wrong with you? I was clearly refering to the PFA awards not the Barclays awards. What exactly makes the PFA inferior?

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=244427.msg3681743#msg3681743 date=1238712835]Stop feeding us chaff here. . . . . , This is not a pub where you misinform the drunkards.
Vidic won the PFA player of the month in January. . . . .Jaglieka won it in February(Vidic shoulda won that too as United won all their games in Feb.)
Gerrard will certainly win the one in March so case closed.[/quote]I meant December and January BUT whenever I feel you couldn't get any sillier, you go ahead and out-do yourself. Let's go to the classroom:


http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/pfa-fans-premier-league-player-of-the-month-winner

Sept = Steven Gerrard
Oct = Geovanni
Nov = Cristiano Ronaldo
Dec = Steven Gerrard
Jan = Steven Gerrard
Feb = Fernando Torres
Mar = Aaron Lennon



3 awards out of 7.
Where's your excellent Vidic? Not even one! Duh!
And these awards are made by fans NOT pundits.

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[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=244427.msg3681743#msg3681743 date=1238712835]Who cares?? If those goals don't push Liverpool to win a league title, they woulda counted for nothing.[/quote]Yeah! And if Noah's ark didn't save the rest of the world, what was the point of him building it? I thought we were discussing Gerrard as a player here, not Liverpool.

mukina2:
They have a dissapointing record against Fulham  .

How so? Liverpool have met Fulham 15 times in the League. They've won 9, drawn 3 and lost 3. I don't really think that's disappointing. In fact they tend to score most against Fulham!

Gerrard is in the running for PFA footballer of the year alongside Vidic. He won the monthly awards for January and February and was nominated for several others including this month's. The truth is, he's good enough for the people that actually matter i.e top players, pundits, managers and the PFA. So Sauron and Ibime's arguments pointing to a single mistake in that match could be flushed down the nearest drain. He makes mistakes BUT who doesn't? Rooney?

Another myth is that of a lack of discipline and poor tackling skills. My answer: watch more Liverpool matches and less England matches (where he's utilized poorly). If he's indisciplined in tackling, how come he's picked up only a single red card in his past 4 seasons (against Everton 2005/2006) whilst winning back possession on many occasions?

As for his goal scoring, he's scored over 65 goals since the 2006/2007 season! He's hit 21 already this season with about 7 from the penalty spot. And he isn't even a striker!

I can be a bit hard to please BUT I find these figures very satisfying indeed.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=244427.msg3676323#msg3676323 date=1238631008]This is ridiculous.
I now understand why DAYOKANU shits on EPL fans.
How can u say Gerrard is the best midfielder in Europe?? Did a gerbil crawl up your rectum??
Xavi, Iniesta, Senna, Essien, etc. . . . .[/quote]I understand your love for Spanish football BUT Senna better than Gerrard You must be having a laugh! Which team do you support? So if your team where a goal down in a final and you (as a manager) had Gerrard, Xavi, Senna, Iniesta and Essien, you'd ACTUALLY bring in Senna? Duh! The guy had a good Euro outing and now he's up there? I watched him yesterday against the Turks and he was poor to average at best.

And a lot of people here have suddenly developed this post-injury love for Essien. The guy is a good player BUT his youth and power are his greatest assets. I mean, ever seen him taking a spot kick, free kick, corner kick, give a killer through-ball, etc: things that make great midfielders? Wait till he's about 30, lost some of his power and needs to rely on guile and technique, then he'll be thoroughly found out.

Xavi is a splendid player, so is Iniesta but in the words of Kaka, "Gerrard, for me, is the Modern Complete Player."

While he won the UCL with average players, you can't really say this current group is average.

tkb417:
To all those who feel Gerrard is overrated.

This is a quote from Kaka. One time world footballer of the year corroborating another ersthwile world footballer of the year


If Gerrard is a complete modern day player, i wonder why some people think hes overrated.

I agree with Kaka, hes one of the few very talented footballers we can find around. same for CR7 and Messi

fanstastic players ill love to have in my team.

imagine these combo pf first Xi

1) Cech
2) Maicon
3) Evra
4) Mascherano
5) Vida
6) carvalho
7) CR7
Benzema
9) Torres
10)Messi
11)Ribery

This team will kill any team for decades!!!

Excellent squad. BUT I'm not too sure about Evra on current form. I'll take Carragher over Carvalho (maybe i'm biased) and I'd play Gerrard over Benzema behind Torres as he prefers being a lone striker as it offers him more space to exploit.

Hi guys, just saw this:

RAFA'S PRIDE AT WORLD COACH HONOUR

Rafael Benitez has spoken of his pride at being voted the best coach in the world by supporters voting in three of the continents best known newspapers.
Spain's AS and Marca, plus Italian broadsheet La Gazzetta dello Sport conducted online polls asking their readers to vote for the best coach in world football.

Liverpool's manager was an overwhelmingly popular figure and came out on top, winning more votes than the likes of Alex Ferguson, Jose Mourinho, Arsene Wenger, Fabio Capello, Marcello Lippi, Vicente Del Bosque and Josep Guardiola.

"I am really pleased. You cannot say that someone is the best in the world as it's almost impossible to guarantee that, but at least you have three big newspapers and supporters saying that we as a club are not bad," the boss told Liverpoolfc.tv.

"That for me is very positive because it means our staff are really good and the players are really good.

"The manager always depends on the players and his staff. You can't be a good manager if you don't have a good team behind you. If the supporters say you are doing well it's because your team, your club is doing well.

"Clearly it's nice because it's supporters from three different countries that voted, as there was also another poll in Germany."





He has my vote!

dyabman:
gerrard overrated ,

You are deluded.

I'm in serious need of EPL action right now. Need to purge my system of the shit we just lived through.

I've never seen a less intelligent team than this.

Redman44:
I can't still watch the match on the internet.

You don't know how lucky you are.

Maybe this why:


http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N163802090328-1217.htm

AFA IS SIMPLY THE BEST
Steve Hunter 28 March 2009


Rafael Benitez is the best coach in the world according to three of the continent's best known newspapers.
Spain's AS and Marca, plus Italian broadsheet La Gazzetta dello Sport conducted online polls asking their readers to vote for the best coach in world football.

Liverpool's manager was an overwhelmingly popular figure and came out on top, winning more votes than the likes of Alex Ferguson, Jose Mourinho, Arsene Wenger, Fabio Capello, Marcello Lippi, Vicente Del Bosque and Barcelona's Josep Guardiola.

In Marca, Rafa got 44 per cent of the vote to finish ahead of Guardiola (28 per cent) and Wenger (7 per cent).

Meanwhile, in AS, Benitez took 34 per cent with Guardiola in second place (19 per cent) and Spain's Head Coach Del Bosque third (15 per cent).

Italy's Gazzetta dello Sport had Rafa out in front with 24.6 per cent, ahead of Ferguson (17.2 per cent) and Mourinho (15 per cent).



As you can see, it's got nothing to do with the EPL. Even the Spanish don't rate him that highly as he's relatively unproven.

I'd take Torres over any other striker at the moment. People say that Villa is a more complete striker but I disagree. Torres has a two sweet feet on him and is one of the best headers in Europe. His presence makes defenders falter and is much faster than Villa. however Villa's ball-control is better but face it: great strikers like Raul, Inzaghi, Shevchenko, RVN,etc didn't need exceptional close control but good positioning and swift decisive finishing.

Torres can score near-impossible goals and tends to do better in big stages. Villa is a superb player though.

P.S; Eto-o deserves a mention too Ibrahimovic could be pathetic in big games.

OK! Guardiola! Guardiola!

Where's Nitel Vasco Da Gama?

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=244427.msg3647636#msg3647636 date=1238096309]Stop being an oaf.
A team down to 10 men playing away from home in a hostile ground like Anfield are going to be defending with their lives.
Most times, Ronaldo gets sacrificed in em games to put an extra defender to protect United's lead.
THINK!!!![/quote]Poor Ronaldo, the lad can't be bothered with defensive duties, eh?

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=244427.msg3647577#msg3647577 date=1238095375]He has been involved in too many games that had United playing 10 men against Scouser's 11.
In 2004/5(Brown was sent off)
In 2006/7(Scholes was sent off)
In 2008/9(he did not play)[/quote]So he goes on a sympathy strike on behalf of sent-off team-mates. That's solidarity!

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=244427.msg3647577#msg3647577 date=1238095375]Ask Capello. . . . . .
Rooney's football brain is better than Gerrard as a supporting striker.[/quote]Wow!!!!!!!! Capello TOLD you that?

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=244427.msg3647528#msg3647528 date=1238094635]Ronaldo scored a header against Liverpool last season.
Rooney scored in his debut season at Anfield same as Carlos Tevez.[/quote]You're funny, I clearly referred to Anfield, didn't I?

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=244427.msg3647342#msg3647342 date=1238092146]He is not better than Wayne Rooney as a supporting striker.[/quote]And this is based on what exactly? Goals scored, assists, red cards received?  Facts please.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=244427.msg3647480#msg3647480 date=1238093968]Why did it take Gerrard 11 seasons to score a goal against Man Utd??
Ooooops, the goal was even a free shot from 12 yards.[/quote]I thought we were talking about the Arsenal match. Anyway, he scored at Old Trafford, didn't he? I wonder if Ronaldo has ever scored at Anfield (or even played well). Doesn't make him a bad player though.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=244427.msg3647309#msg3647309 date=1238091597]I remember him scoring against 'Pool at Anfield last season and he scored against Man Utd at the Emirates.
What about Cesc's heroic antics at San Zero last season??[/quote]You realized Gerrard scored the first goal in that match, don't you? But then you forgot, conveniently.

"Cesc's Heroics at the San Zero?" Is that all he's got? I have a DVD of Gerrard's heroics at almost EVERY top stadium in Europe!!!! Want one?

And about that Gerrard dive clip, proffessional football has its ups and downs. Former top players like Schevchenko, Ronaldo, Maradona had the art of diving perfected to a T. Its like saying you've never told a fib.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=244427.msg3646983#msg3646983 date=1238087963]When would you herbs realise GERRARD does not thrive as a midfielder??
He has been superb in the last 12 months because he now plays as a supporting striker.
Between 1998 and 2008. . . . . .Gerrard has been a waste pipe for Liverpool.[/quote]In 2005, he won the UCL MVP playing centrally and RB on some occasions; but then 2005 doesn't fall between 1998 and 2008, does it?

Fab better than Gerrard in the midfield postion? !!!!!!!!! You must be having a laugh

Messi is NOT a striker.

I sat down to watch AC Milan take on Liverpool in the UCL final in Instanbul, 2005. I didn't give a crap about Liverpool then. At the end though, I arose from my sofa the most passionate Liverpool supporter in this country!

dayokanu:
Akola?

How can you put those players together with Gerrard. Fabregas and Arteta? Why not Mikel and Bramble?

Or even Deco and Shittu!  It's just anti-Liverpool sentiment speaking here.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=244427.msg3642345#msg3642345 date=1238008686]The words of a loser. . . . . .

So much hatred for which player?? Gerrard??
Anderson at 20 has achieved more than Gerrard can ever be. . . . He has won both club/international titles so what is there to envy about Gerrard.
He is a demigod in Liverpool(any idiot can be a cult hero in Merseyside) but in Manchester?? No one reckons with him.
So u need to dig ur head outta your smelly ass when typing your brainless lines.[/quote]This thing really means a lot to you. Grow up.