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RomanceRe: What Are The Bads And Goods Of Marrying A British Girl by topup: 11:13pm On Jul 02, 2009
[color=#008855]'British' isn't even a race, so I can't even begin to make stereotypes.

Just because someone is British doesn't mean they share the same beliefs, traditions and culture as other British people. There is nothing stopping a Nigerian woman who grew up in Nigeria obtaining a British passport, or a Portugese, or American or . .

So the bads and goods - I'm afraid I can't answer that.


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PropertiesRe: Building Plan Approval Process And Cost In Lagos State. by topup: 6:04am On Jul 01, 2009
LASYEM:
Thats the tax clearance am talking about. as for the approval i can get it for you.the next is for you to have the drawing of the 3 bedroom. as for the cost, the building plan is what we will use to calculate your fee. you can call me on 017429269 or 08083308588. sahidlateef@gmail.com.the name is sahid.The cost could be around 150k, it could be more or less. cheers grin
[color=#008855]Is this right?? Shouldn't he go straight to the department concerned instead of contacting someone by a personal email? If anything LASYEM should give his contact details so that they can apply to the department and it is forwarded straight to him.
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PropertiesRe: Are You A Builder Or An Engineer?please Read This by topup: 5:44am On Jul 01, 2009
[color=#008855]Hopefully the business is suceeding.
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PropertiesRe: Help Me Plan My Bachelor Pad (My Own Place) by topup: 5:43am On Jul 01, 2009
[color=#008855]I can see a future in this topic, I'm learning just being here. I'm not familiar with how to plan & organise a house in Nigeria as I'm not familiar with all of the issues there.

How is your flat goin' Seun (and what's this 'you know what' that we ladies should know?). .
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RomanceRe: What Would You Do? by topup: 4:17am On Jul 01, 2009
[color=#008855]Have a matured talk with her, give her the opportunity to come clean about it, but don't pressure her. I don't think 2 weeks is enough to know that this is a person who is worthy of your trust, if you prove that you are worthy of her trust, surely all her secrets will come out of the closet, if she truly cares for you.

Why would a stranger tell you such things, yes it could be a warning or it could be someone fueled by bitterness.

I pray that noone ever does such a thing to me, and I pray my guy would be mature enough to discuss it with me, so I'd have an opportunity to defend myself.
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RomanceRe: Can An Ex Still Get Back Together After Telling Him/her U R Moving On? by topup: 4:14am On Jul 01, 2009
Monicaa:
Honestly, I haven't seen someone that can replace him yet, much better, as much as I loved him, I don't want to settle 4 less. I want something much better than him, that's the only way I feel I might get over him, but it just hasn't happened, making me think nd believe he might have been d best.
I know the relationship was not all that great nd I deserve better, like u said, I should not deceive myself, I love him but i know if I meet someone higher than him, it would fade away making me believe that's d only way I can let go of him.
[color=#008855]If you weren't being treated right in the relationship then I doubt that he's the best. He may after all just be the best of a bad bunch, and not exactly the best for you.

I think it's going to be harder for you to find someone you think has potential because this break up seems to have gotten you to evaluate things, you've considered the past relationship (probably in a lot of detail), so you're less likely to waltz into anything.

I get the sense that you want to be in a relationship even if it costs you your happiness, it seems bareable now, but imagine putting up with rubbish again, I'm sure being single would look highly appetising then.

Don't lose hope now, it's harder to get a great guy, that's just the way it is, but it is definitely worth holding out. In the meantime, find some hobbies, keep busy, maybe if you work on your interests you might bump into a guy who shares them with you.

All the best.
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RomanceRe: Solution For A Long Distance Relastionship. by topup: 4:08am On Jul 01, 2009
[color=#008855]What kind of message is that sending to your girlfriend (if innocent) if you're asking her to strap on a device so that you can keep an eye on her like a guinea pig.

"Hunny, I'm afraid you'll cheat, so just to be sure in case you lie to me, wear this. Thanks."
*kisses on cheek*


- How sweet.
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RomanceRe: Which Can U Tolerate by topup: 4:05am On Jul 01, 2009
[color=#008855]Neither.
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RomanceRe: Your Best Friend Beats Up Your Girl by topup: 3:56am On Jul 01, 2009
[color=#008855]Hmmm, what an abomination!!
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RomanceRe: Guys Find It Difficult To Admire Their Girls. Why? by topup: 3:52am On Jul 01, 2009
[color=#008855]I'm not sure if it's sincere love, after all he seems a little bit insecure. I would hate for my guy never to tell me that I looked beautiful, especially when you go through all that effort of picking out a nice outfit, doing makeup, and all the guys and your friends are telling you "you look beautiful, then your guy just nods and yells, we're going to be late, let's go" .

My dad never tells my mum that she looks beautiful and I'm not sure what reason it is, but now, when we compliment her, she's always saying, "really?", "you sure?", something like this can really wear down a woman's confidence in herself, and she can start to think, "why bother doing my hair, or putting on the makeup - he doesn't appreciate it."?? For a while she seemed stuck in a rut, she barely wore any makeup, she didn't have time for her hair or clothes, but recently, she's back to looking gorgeous again with or without my dad's compliments.

It's a shame really, your boyfriend should be able to trust that you won't leave him, does he believe that keeping you insecure about yourself is what will keep you around?? If so, he's got another thing coming, if another guy who offers similar qualities can't get enough of how 'cute' you are.
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Christianity EtcRe: Hero Muslim Saves Jew From Christian Thugs by topup: 3:45am On Jul 01, 2009
[color=#008855]I'm just glad that the Jewish guy and his friends were saved from getting hurt. I don't care whether Christian or Muslim. The Jewish guy in the interview also mentioned that "even our own guys didn't help us." It's really difficult in such a situation to divide up the people and their races, I believe the man from Bangladesh was just a kind man who felt compassionate towards.

People no matter what religion rarely throw themselves into fights to defend the innocent these days for fear of their own safety being compromised.

If this post was a testimony to someone's life being saved or avoiding being beaten up that's fantastic, but to prove that either Christians or Jews are terrible people - sorry I'm not going to buy that.
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Christianity EtcRe: The Questions Nobody Wants To Answer In Christianity by topup: 3:38am On Jul 01, 2009
What about the Bible. Who actually wrote it.
[color=#008855]The Bible is an extensive collections of various peoples' accounts of their encounter with either Jesus or God. The fact that so many people witnessed this and felt moved enough to record it (which was difficult in those days), says a lot.
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Why does the Catholic Bible has seven (7) more books than the Protestant Bible?
[color=#008855]Catholism and protestant beliefs vary because they are denominations of the Christian faith. In the simplest way to explain this; imagine you read the Bible, but you didn't agree with the way your pastor at church was preaching it as you felt that his interpretation was far from the truth, so you start your own church, which over time grows into your own ministry, then your own group, e.t.c. I guess all the core information and text will be in both Bible's however, there will be emphasis on different things for each.
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Why are there so many mistakes and errors are from the very first verse right up to the very last verse?
[color=#008855]If we really think about it, there aren't that many mistakes at all, and if any they are probably more to do with the theories of modern science being unable to prove or being able to disprove parts of the text. Let us not forget that this science we use, is still a theory, we believe science is fact, but it is in fact a theory in which no one yet has been able to disprove. There was a time when people thought that the world was flat, and that was a fact. Or what about the model of the electron by Rutherford, these scientific theories were disproven and replaced by other theories.
Science gets away with so much, the only reason why we still use it is because we are waiting for someone to come up with something more plausible to dispute the current 'facts' that exist.
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Why do 'Born Again Christians' teach concepts that are not from the Bible?
[color=#008855]Because like any book it is open to interpretation and others have wilder imaginations that others, that is why any devoted Christian will dedicate a lot of time to reading and re-reading the Bible.
If I read in a book 'the sky that night way indigo', and a friend of mine read 'the sky that night was indigo.' It is possible that I could interpret it as dark blue, and the friend as dark purple. This is a loose example.
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There is no word "Trinity" in the Bible in any version of any language
[color=#008855]That is understandable, but it makes no difference to the fact that there is God the Father, the son and the Holy Spirit. Whether you decide to call it the Holy trinity, the holy trio, the Holy three doesn't matter, as long as you realise the message behind it. The Holy trinity has been a descriptive phrase that has suited its means, so well that it has been adopted and passed along hundreds of generations and will continue to do so.
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The oldest forms of Christianity do not support the 'born again' beliefs
[color=#008855]Which 'born-again' beliefs are these?? I apologise if I am picking flaws everywhere, but the whole point of Christianity is that you chose to be born-again, since we are born-again with the help of Jesus Christ. How can you be a Christian but refuse to accept the idea of being born-again. Being born-again is what saves us from hell, I actually don't undertstand how that could be possible. Ever since the crucifixtion of Jesus Christ, he has been a figure to give thanks and to adore, why would his followers then refuse salvation??
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Jesus of the English Bible complains about the 'crucifixion'
[color=#008855]'Of the english bible??' what is this english bible?? As believers in God the father, we are urged to call upon him for assitance, to trust in him when things are going badly for us, and to look only to him for help. This is exactly what Jesus did, just because he called out for God's name doesn't mean that he was complaining or ungrateful. In fact God did not forsake him, Jesus is now in heaven sat at God's right hand with eternal life and salvation - not bad eh smiley.
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[color=#008855]Will try and remember to answer the rest later.
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Christianity EtcRe: The Questions Nobody Wants To Answer In Christianity by topup: 3:03am On Jul 01, 2009
[color=#008855]These questions can be answered by reading the Bible I believe.

You can't just read excerpts, you have to read it from cover to cover. That's the only way you can find the true answers to your questions lest God talks to you one day in a dream.

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Christianity EtcRe: We Are Ready To Accept Christianity If by topup: 2:52am On Jul 01, 2009
[color=#008855]I would like to urge everyone to lay-off insulting each other, if possible.

Speaking to the Christians, you'll understand why I'm saying this.
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Christianity EtcRe: We Are Ready To Accept Christianity If by topup: 2:50am On Jul 01, 2009
Abuzola:
Pre marital sex is allowed in christianity so don't tell me about any biblical law, how many of u have pluck off ur eyes, cut ur hands, remove shoe before praying, turn your other cheek and a host of others which exist in the bible
[color=#008855]When a person says such a contradiction and utter incorrect 'opinions' posed as facts, you really find it difficult to believe the rest of what they have to say.

Please, since you are very 'good' (not) at quoting the Bible, please share with us the text that says that this is true.
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Christianity EtcRe: Christain View Point On Long Hair, Tattoos, Body Piercing And The Way We Dress by topup: 5:57pm On Jun 30, 2009
JJYOU:
is this REV (DR) WOLI TOPUP i see before me? are u also amongsts the wolis? this seun place hide loads of secrets.
[color=#008855]What's a 'Woli'??
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Christianity EtcRe: We Are Ready To Accept Christianity If by topup: 10:16am On Jun 30, 2009
[color=#008855]Is this what we've come to?
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Christianity EtcRe: Christain View Point On Long Hair, Tattoos, Body Piercing And The Way We Dress by topup: 10:15am On Jun 30, 2009
No2Atheism:
I am saying be careful cus having references is not a prelude to saying the truth.

Wikipedia is not peer reviewed meaning that was is shown is not reviewed hence listing references makes no difference because not everybody bothers to check the references.
[color=#008855]Yes, that's true. I have an account on Wikipedia and I know how it works. It just seems very convincing, if I had to be really sceptical I could say because freemasons tend to be wealthy and successful businessmen, they could have possibly just hired an expensive writer to compose everything in the form of an article.

I think I will do more research into this, even though it's going to be difficult since I should trust anything.


By the way, if we shouldn't trust a thing so easily, why are you so quick to trust the articles written opposing the freemasons?? Doesn't the argument work both ways?
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Christianity EtcRe: Christain View Point On Long Hair, Tattoos, Body Piercing And The Way We Dress by topup: 10:13am On Jun 30, 2009
No2Atheism:
Essential its even clear to see that freemasons are pagans masquerading as something else.

The bible makes it clear that there is no other Creator, He is not Allah, He is not a force, He is not an Alien, He is not Hindu god.

He is simply the I am that I am as reported in the Bible nothing more nothing less.
[color=#008855]Yes, we know that, but we cannot pretend as if there are people today who use their free will and choose to worship Allah. I do not believe in Allah, even though Allah is just Arabic for God. I do not believe in the God of Islam, however, it makes sense if freemasons is attempting to come across less cult-ish, to allow people to execute their free-will. Isn't it the fact that people are forced to believe in ONE thing that clasifies most clubs as cults??

The fact that they are claiming that they don't discriminate and allow all religions make it seem no more harmful than a kidies nursery club or school.
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Christianity EtcRe: Christain View Point On Long Hair, Tattoos, Body Piercing And The Way We Dress by topup: 10:03am On Jun 30, 2009
[color=#008855]Wow, 100 references is a lot for a pack of lies.
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Christianity EtcRe: Christain View Point On Long Hair, Tattoos, Body Piercing And The Way We Dress by topup: 9:43am On Jun 30, 2009
[color=#008855]Freemasons exist. .

"Candidates for regular Freemasonry are required to declare a belief in a Supreme Being.[28] However, the candidate is not asked to expand on, or explain, his interpretation of Supreme Being. The discussion of politics and religion is forbidden within a Masonic Lodge, in part so a Mason will not be placed in the situation of having to justify his personal interpretation.[29] Thus, reference to the Supreme Being will mean the Christian Trinity to a Christian Mason, Allah to a Muslim Mason, Para Brahman to a Hindu Mason, etc. And while most Freemasons would take the view that the term Supreme Being equates to God, others may hold a more complex or philosophical interpretation of the term.

In the ritual, the Supreme Being is referred to as the Great Architect of the Universe, which alludes to the use of architectural symbolism within Freemasonry.[30][31]

A Volume of the Sacred Law is always displayed in an open Lodge in those jurisdictions which require a belief in the Supreme Being. In English-speaking countries, this is frequently the King James Version of the Bible or another standard translation; there is no such thing as an exclusive "Masonic Bible".[32] In many French Lodges, the Masonic Constitutions are used instead. Furthermore, a candidate is given his choice of religious text for his Obligation, according to his beliefs. UGLE alludes to similarities to legal practice in the UK, and to a common source with other oath taking processes.[33][34][35][36] In Lodges with a membership of mixed religions it is common to find more than one sacred text displayed."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasons


General requirements
Generally, to be a regular Freemason, a candidate must:[21]

Be a man who comes of his own free will.
Believe in a Supreme Being (the form of which is left to open interpretation by the candidate).
Be at least the minimum age (from 18–25 years old depending on the jurisdiction).
Be of good morals, and of good reputation.
Be of sound mind and body (Lodges had in the past denied membership to a man because of a physical disability; however, now, if a potential candidate says a disability will not cause problems, it will not be held against him).
Be free-born (or "born free", i.e. not born a slave or bondsman).[57] As with the previous, this is entirely an historical holdover, and can be interpreted in the same manner as it is in the context of being entitled to write a will. Some jurisdictions have removed this requirement.
Be capable of furnishing character references, as well as one or two references from current Masons, depending on jurisdiction.
Deviation from one or more of these requirements is generally the barometer of Masonic regularity or irregularity. However, an accepted deviation in some regular jurisdictions is to allow a Lewis (the son of a Mason)[58] to be initiated earlier than the normal minimum age for that jurisdiction, although no earlier than the age of 18.

Some Grand Lodges in the United States have an additional residence requirement, candidates being expected to have lived within the jurisdiction for a certain period of time, typically six months.[59]



Membership and religion
Freemasonry explicitly and openly states that it is neither a religion nor a substitute for one. "There is no separate Masonic God", nor a separate proper name for a deity in any branch of Freemasonry.[28][60]

Regular Freemasonry requires that its candidates believe in a Supreme Being, but the interpretation of the term is subject to the conscience of the candidate. This means that men from a wide range of faiths, including (but not limited to) Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Sikhism, Hinduism, etc. can and have become Masons.

Since the early 19th century, in the irregular Continental European tradition (meaning irregular to those Grand Lodges in amity with the United Grand Lodge of England), a very broad interpretation has been given to a (non-dogmatic) Supreme Being; in the tradition of Baruch Spinoza and Johann Wolfgang von Goethe – or views of The Ultimate Cosmic Oneness – along with Western atheistic idealism and agnosticism.

Freemasonry in Scandinavia, known as the Swedish Rite, on the other hand, accepts only Christians. In addition, some appendant bodies (or portions thereof) may have religious requirements. These have no bearing, however, on what occurs at the lodge level.
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Christianity EtcRe: Christain View Point On Long Hair, Tattoos, Body Piercing And The Way We Dress by topup: 8:32am On Jun 30, 2009
No2Atheism:
I also believe in the permissible beneficial principle however everything must be done in consideration of :

- if it causes others to sin
- glorifies the Creator.
- if glorifies the devil in ignorance.

Hence though u do not believe in occult issues does not mean it does not exist, the time of ignorance is bliss, but once u know that its occultice in nature it becomes selfish and disobedient to scriptures to continue to do something that glorifies the devil.

e.g. I also used to use the peace sign before until i realised that its actually a secret sign language used by occults to praise the devil (the two fingers represented the horns of the devil according to occultic principles). Hence even though i know it is permissible to still use the sign cause it has nothing to do with my salvation, nevertheless i know its not beneficial to my concscience and to others around me considering that it only causes me to feel guilty for doing something that i now know is used to glorify the devil.

It is written that he that knows how to do good and doeth it not, to him it is sin.


Hence the good in this case is that: I know that some things are occultic, hence it would be sin for someone like me who knows not to reveal it to other people who do not.

I am not saying people should stop doing wat they are doing far from it, cus its their decision not mine. All i am saying is that continuing to use tatoos and occultic issues does not glorify the Creator, infact it does the opposite; it glorifies the devil, whether or not they realise it or not.
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[color=#008855]Well then maybe I'm just ignorant then, but then you are probably too. There are so many signs and ways many things can be taken. I'm just urging us not to lose sight, do we think God is losing sleep over a peace sign or the way we ignore those around us in need. I believe we should have priorities. Of course if we are aware of what we are doing and its interpretation by others and if it's glorifying the devil, then we should curb it. But actively searching everything, I'm not so sure of, and it's not because I advocate ignorance, I'm advocating a rational order of priorities.

Sin is sin, I agree whether it is by ignorance or intentional, but the dynamics of things are so much more different than they were back in the era of the Bible. I am sure that a lot of things we do these days were signs of the devil, leave anything to interpretation and you will get a million answers.

If I had to list all the things I've been warned about, I don't think any of us would be interacting with the outside world, everyone has found their different reasons, done their research, made links and to some extent exaggerated or minimised things.

Harry Potter,
Procter & Gamble products (all the detergents, prescriptions drugs e.t.c),
Yoga & Pilates,
Pyramids,
Eyes,
Sabrina the Teenage Witch,
Angelina Jolie,
Buffy the Vampie Slayer,
All Horror, Thriller and Chiller genre movies,
DMX,
Beyonce,
Jay-Z,
Practically every non-christian genre music artist,
Rap,
Rock,
Pop,
Secular music in general,
Certain clothes,
Certain dance moves,
Certain words,
Certain noices,
Certain animals,
. . .
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Christianity EtcRe: Christain View Point On Long Hair, Tattoos, Body Piercing And The Way We Dress by topup: 7:46am On Jun 30, 2009
[color=#008855]Not trying to cut the conversation short, but when the majority of us, including myself, have not mastered the art of treating our neighbours as we would like to be treated and also loving the Lord our God with all our hearts, why are we panicking about piercings and superficial and peripheral things?

What do you honestly think determines whether someone is walking with God, their behaviour or the decorations on their body?

How do we know we're not being conditioned by society? How do we know that if female ear-piercing was also taboo that we wouldn't add that onto our 'No' list?

My friend last year refused to cut her hair, I asked her why and she told me that a woman told her that if she continued to cut her hair she would go to hell. The woman herself, with her un-cut hair, is she guaranteed a place in heaven - answer anyone?

I think we have to try and not get sidetracked. I agree with JeSoul's comments specifically; We are not bound by Old Testament Laws nor is everything that is permissable is benefical. And not everything beneficial is actually possible to carry out.

I think as Christians we are still struggling to leave the Old concepts behind, about the strict laws of life, for those of us who still need strict laws, there are the 10 commandments and the two most important are emphasised by Jesus, repeated; to love God with all our hearts and treat our neighbours the way we would want to be treated. So what if you don't have any piercings and your hair is grown to the required or advised length, will that get you closer to God??

As for the signs and occult references, I have never been superstitious, and I believe it works in both ways, I have never believed in witchcraft and believed I had magical powers that would give me an advantage, nor have I ever believed if I broke a mirror I'd be cursed, or if some bitter woman on the street yells a curse at me and my unborn child that I would be at a disadvantage.

I only believe in God.
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No2Atheism:
In conclusion basically:


- It is deceptive or ignorant of @Bastage to claim that illuminati does not exist and is just mere conspiracy. It is either u are hopelessly ignorant or you are also a cultist doing your best to protect your secrets.
[color=#008855]I disagree, I believe claiming it exists gives it some power that it would not have if you don't believe it exists. Once you become aware of it, you are cautious of it, subconsciously you are aware of it's 'power'. I don't believe any of that stuff has power over me, nothing significant once compared to the power of the protection of God over me.

Once you start searching for eyes, signs, links, you are practically as involved as someone who is actively and willingly participating in such things, of course, you are trying to minimise contact with such things, and remove all idols and signs from your immediate surroundings, but I believe these things can distract us from the bigger picture. As long as you are not devoting time to these idols, or worshipping them, then I don't believe you should worry too much, after all anyone can make an idol or symbol out of anything.

I don't believe God is that crucial over such things;

II Kings 5v 18
"In this thing may the Lord pardon your servant; when my master [the king] goes into the house of [his god] Rimmon to worship there, and he leans on my hand and I bow myself in the house of Rimmon, when I bow down myself in the house of Rimmon, may the Lord pardon your servant in this thing."

Here Naaman the commander of the army (but)'servant' of the King of Syria asks God to forgive him as he bows down in the house of Rimmon. Bowing down to another God, he understood that such a thing could upset God and is not right, but he pleaded that God would look into his heart. In all honesty at this point Naaman did not believe in Rimmon, but he knew that he would lose his position if he did not help the king, he knew that the King of Syria (being aged) could not bow down by himself, so now Naaman would have to bow before another god/idol.

Verse 19 "Elisha said to him, Go in peace.
So Naaman departed from him a little way."


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RomanceRe: Get Your Ex Girlfriend Back by topup: 7:33am On Jun 30, 2009
[color=#008855]Correct me if I'm wrong, but this seems very much copy and pasted. Too many of these 'dating blogs' do just that and that's why I prefer to google my problems because that's probably what most of them have done.

Nonetheless, the advice in the post if good, it's subtle and I think it would work fantastically for a guy who has great common sense, can read body language and signals easily. However, for a guy who is not used to thinking this way, he might find that these general rules and suggestions aren't specific enough or working the way he'd like.

One way not to get your ex back:
Calling her up at 5a.m. in the morning pestering her to give reasons for why she hasn't been calling or texting.  tongue
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RomanceRe: Am Married But I Cant Take My Eye Of Nairaland Chick. by topup: 7:27am On Jun 30, 2009
No2Atheism:
onisekuse ara galatia, na to dey watch NL babes be ur marital wow abi, shior, u better go lingerie boutique go buy ur wife different versions so that u can relieve urself of the stress wey dey worry u
[color=#008855]Your profile pic cracked me up!!
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Christianity EtcRe: We Are Ready To Accept Christianity If by topup: 7:16am On Jun 30, 2009
Abuzola:
Quran 4:16 says if the adulterator repent leave them, the same similar case that happen to the woman. Jesus said in matthew 5:17-18 think not that i have come to abolish the law and prophet but to fulfil. There is no verse in the bible where jesus said i forbid you an eye for an eye or tooth for tooth but further said mathew 5:38-39 You have heard that it was said an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, but i say to u do not resist one who is evil,'

compare Islam
Quran 42:40 The recompense for an evil is an evil like thereof; but whoever forgives and make reconciliation, his reward is with Allah. Verily Allah likes not the oppressor''
can u see how forgiveness is emphasized with reward ? So is the law of Allah soft
[color=#008855]I see that you've missed out the rest of Matthew 38  no worries I'll gladly add the rest -

Firstly I would like to place a defintion here:

re·sist (r-zst)
v. re·sist·ed, re·sist·ing, re·sists
v.tr.
1. To strive to fend off or offset the actions, effects, or force of.
2. To remain firm against the actions, effects, or force of; withstand: a bacterium that resisted the antibiotic.
3. To keep from giving in to or enjoying.


Hush everyone, Jesus is speaking . . .

38"You have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth. [Amplified Bible references the chapters in the Old Testament where this was believed to be the way: Exodus 21:24; "Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot" Leviticus 24:20; "Fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth; as he has caused a blemish or disfigurement on a man, so shall it be done to him." Deuteronomy 19:21 - the Old Testament was before Jesus was born, a lot of confusion during that era, when the people were disconnected from God, they offered sacrifices, they committed many sins, and did not capitalize on love and forgiveness. Jesus came to correct the misconceptions about God hence the New Testament.]

39"But I say to you, Do not resist** the evil man [who injures you]; but if anyone strikes you on the right jaw or cheek, turn to him the other one too."
40"And if anyone wants to sue you and take your undershort (tunic), let him have your coat also."
41"And if anyone forces you to go one mile, go with him two [miles]."
42"Give to him who keeps on begging from you, an do not turn away from him who would borrow [at interest] from you. [Deuteronomy 15:8; Proverbs 24:29]."
43"You have heard that it was said, You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy; [Levitivus 19:18; Psalm 139:21 - 22]
44"But I tell you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you." [Proverbs 25:21 - 22]
45"To show that you are the children of your Father Who is in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the wicked and on the good, and makes the rain fall upon the upright and the wrongdoers [alike]."

**strive to fend off or offset the actions, effects, or force of** - I don't believe that Jesus would imply we should give into 'the evil' - because that would be the biggest contradiction ever known to man. Not everything an 'evil man' does is evil - I know this seems like a major contradiction, but in modern day, we are no longer talking about the mysterious monsters or evil dragons, we are talking about people who commit fraud and steal millions of money - to support their extended family, we are talking about mothers who lie about the damages to their homes so they can claim insurance money - to help pay the tuition fees for their children, fathers who lie about sickness to avoid having to go to work - in order to take the children on holiday. It's really much more complicated, I believe most Christians believe that we are not to fend off the 'evil' because that way we will never be able to help them reach God.

Lastly;

Matthew 4 verse 46 - 48.
"For if you love those who love you, what reward can you have? Do not even the tax collectors do that?
And if you greet only your brethren, what more than others are you doing? Do not even the Gentiles (the heathen) do that?
You, therefore, must be perfect [growing into complete maturity of godliness in mind and character, having reached the proper height of virtue and integrity], as your heavenly Father is perfect."
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Christianity EtcRe: We Are Ready To Accept Christianity If by topup: 6:44am On Jun 30, 2009
C2H5OH:
topup whassup how are you
[color=#008855]I'm good, just doing a LOT of reading, at the most inconvinient time.

Hope all's well.
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Christianity EtcRe: We Are Ready To Accept Christianity If by topup: 6:44am On Jun 30, 2009
[color=#008855]What I've gotten from this topic is that some people haven't handled themselves well or even come up with arguments that don't involve name calling.

Relating to religion; I always urge people to understand the difference between name holders and followers.

Yes, God will determine who the real Christians are, this is for no one else to do, I am sure the same can be said for all religions, we may try our best or believe we are the best, but at the end of the day, we are not the judges.

To use a person as an example is careless and is not smart. It really isn't.

If you really want to know what Chrisitanity is about, don't watch your friends or those around you, we all have free will since we're human, and we are not compelled to follow Christ (who leads us to God, so we are following God too), we are given every option and opportunity to follow Christ and to be honest, there is enough evidence for us to do so, there have been several documentaries, proven the correlation between the life of Jesus Christ and history, but if we decide not to, and we decide to continue sinning without repenting, then we are free to do that too. Like I said, this is the same for every religion.

Instead of looking to others to gain what being a Christian is about, read the Bible (I am considering purchasing the quran as I type this - even though I've been told (by muslim classmates) that a non-muslim isn't allowed to touch it, emphasis on the I've been told), if you read it like a book, then you can continue, but if you are affected, you can truly appreciate that rarely will you find anyone who actually is the 'definition' of a Christian.

We all try our best in life to be good followers of our faith, but at the end of the day, we will always be trying. In this new money & work-driven world, we will always be trying and struggling.

Yes, I have had muslim friends who have told me that Islam means submission, but you know what, I'm not that narrowminded to take their word as fact. We're all adults here, do we always do as we are told, or do we use our brains to go and find out for ourselves. I have had many muslim friends who have refered to it, in a manner insinuating it to be a regime, joking about having to burn or sit on fire if they break their fasts e.t.c. Does this mean that I ridicule all muslims?? No. I am not that ignorant.
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Christianity EtcRe: We Are Ready To Accept Christianity If by topup: 6:30am On Jun 30, 2009
[color=#008855]I don't think I could ever listen to an argument in which The Word is manipulated - here is a classic example.
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PropertiesAny Architects In The House? by topup(op): 5:29am On Jun 30, 2009
[color=#008855]I'm sure if I made the call for Engineers, I'd have a 1000 replies by now, but I'm looking for advice, comments, testimonies, stories ANYTHING about the world of Architecture that exists in Nigeria.

So, what are your experiences, even if you're not an Architect, but have required one, or considered using one, or you know one, just leave a line.

I'm doing some research about this, looking specifically at the demand for Architects, the influence of Architects on exisiting buildings, and if need be, please relate it to engineering, though I would prefer to discuss arcchitecture.

Pictures of Architecture that is actually significant to Nigeria are very welcome.

- Well, my parents built a house when I was younger, I don't believe they used an Architect, I believe they just drew it up loosely, I'm not sure how the specifics were worked out, but I'm pretty sure that little or no consideration went into the whole 'Architecture' side of things.

Are builders in Nigeria more relevant than the Architects?? It seemed that our builder took charge over most of the building, and I think the design changed, but this was expected, I don't believe you can get away with 'unnecessary' amendments these days, or am I being naive??

What about Lagos, Abuja, the major cities, apart from reproduction of American-style houses, is there a genuine interest in Architecture in the wealthier parts of Nigeria??

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RomanceRe: Can An Ex Still Get Back Together After Telling Him/her U R Moving On? by topup: 5:21am On Jun 30, 2009
ezinne1212:
I believe you still see an avenue open for you and your ex, i guess that's why you're undecided about still moving-on and having moved-on. My ex got another girl pregnant, and tried to run. Later i found out he was trying to stop being an asshole and be committed to me. The girl came to me knowing this , and i helped her out without saying to much and told him to take care of his child. After 2 years he called me when they were about to have their second child and thanked me for doing what i did. I smile now because at least i know that the good i saw in him, was there, life's not perfect. I talk to his wife, we're friends smiley, such is life. Am i bitter, i was in the beginning, but i think i did good, i have no regrets, i hope for the best for us all.

Moral of the story for you, my chapter is closed. Now i trust my instincts and i'll keep going till i'm with the one meant for me. Dig deep and ask yourself if that's the same for you? if it's not, don't deceive yourself, finish what you started regardless of what happened, else you won't ever open your heart or mind to someone else.
[color=#008855]It's actions like these that make me proud to be a female smiley
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