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debosky:


free loaders.

@ blacklion

just confess to me if you like the girl, all these attacks don pass the topic na? Do I hear another style style proposal in the works?

bro, as per your matchmaking or friendship making efforts- you're preaching to the choir.

Been there, done that, never again. With either gender.

Am sure blacklion is a happily married or happily engaged man nothwithstanding all his shouting here or anywhere. Am also sure he's not gay.

@ aisha's explanation.

No wonder. The guy must also be one of those yabbing Nairalanders or internet commandos like dalby and Blacklion.

na them dey front pass, but put them in a serious situation and watch them fumble like nobody's business. Na socializing problem o.

See what happens when you refuse to learn from your interactions on the web. Or interactions in general.

People will complain about everything- English is not our mother tongue, women are too forward, etc etc. Instead of them to learn from the world around them, na so so yab them go dey yab, only to fall flat on their faces at critical moments.

@ blacklion and dalby- na una sef una dey explain o. You're not talking to me at all. I don't give a flying fig for anything you might have to say. In fact, say more.

katherinae:
post pics here when they have the weddin, the guy should learn to talk less and she should reduce the amount of attention she gives to the words that come out of his mouth

true talk.

blacklion:
Shebi ah talk am sey di girls wey dia mouth sharp pass for this thread be under 18 eaglets. Una no see am now?

This pikin no fit decode tpia and dalmy gist na im e come dey yarn this one again.

My pipul talk sey wetin pikin no fit see as e tanda na im elder dey see as im siddon

you must be smoking the same thing as dalby.

I've noticed a trend on nairaland these days where people start spilling what they regard as others' personal information, in an attempt to score some cheap points and make the person look bad.

Why should I worry myself about anything dalby feels like posting about me? its a free world.  People are free to post any information they think they have, about random strangers they've never met in real life but who they loose sleep over at night.

That's what instant messenging is for- random information about people on nairaland. Juicy gist and even juicier gossip.

So far, the guy has said I'm working three jobs, I'm an accountant because of taxes, I live or don't live in Nigeria. All very useful information, as far as I know.
he also included other usefully coded information such as telling me he's married and going home to his wife, he has a job which pays him wonderfully (better than my own), I trekked out of Nigeria through whatever country or countries he cares to name, etc etc. Not to mention the fact that according to him I'm still trekking and so far havent even reached my destination.

At least im own never reach pawpaw level yet. abi no be poop packer pawpaw say I dey do for abroad? Since all Nigerians in diaspora dey pack sh*t. This one still say I be accountant. maybe na one of my other three jobs involve sh*t packing.

I've also noticed 95% of dalby's posts are in response to something AJ said. I doubt he'd have anything sensible to type on nairaland if he's writing for himself and not as follow follow.

Whoever wants to rant should rant o.

If you have any info on me, please spill the beans. I don't even need to bother verifying or denying- after all ,it must be true, or how else would people have heard about it. In fact, i'm saying right now that any info someone posts about me on nairaland, is true. Guaranteed true by me, and stamped with my seal of approval. You can quote me for future reference.

sheesh. Considering how folks are going kolo these days with people's pictures and what not, is it even surprising. You have a personal problem with somebody, you post pictures of her family. You mutilate other people's pictures. You cast aspersions on people for issues not even related to the topics being discussed.  Are all these the marks of civilized or even sane people. 

But carry on, sha. I dey.

local radicals.

Dalby:
You be my man, no hard feelings
I go code your true situation for them.
I need to actually go and sleep, some of us have to work you know
Wifey is also waiting for you know, , how would you know when you are not married
Save well well, we go convince am to wait for you, at least in 5 or 6 years, at least traditional money go dey ground. In another 5 or 6, church own go don ready (damn if not for these taxes )

kolo.

In any case, what's wrong with working three or five jobs, being an accountant for whatever reason, or doing any job you're ascribing to me here? Dude, if you need visa, let me know. Maybe I can be of assistance if I think you're nice.

yeye.


[quote author=D-reloaded link=topic=117328.msg2026846#msg2026846 date=1204755323]people can't even wriite about their lives without morons throwing it at other people's faces in other threads that have NOTHING to do with such

The hell does job and accountancy have to do with anything? Some of you are so immature it's ridiculous.[/quote]You get time. I strongly suspect he must be that guy calling himself pawpaw.



previous posts ko previous posts ni.

Dalby:
The beauty of it is that I don't have to do 3 jobs, and also become an accountant because of tax

You're limited only by your imagination.

them refuse you visa? Or are you that pawpaw guy?

Dalby:
@tpia

Na female conditioning make am agree, so don't feel so smug
Wetin I dey go find for sokoto when e dey for shokoto.
I think that even in Nigeria, I earm more than you when converted

knock yourself out. 

You're limited only by your imagination.

Dalby:
@tpia

I dey tell you say I dey country and wetin the man (blacklion) talk na true , you dey talk another thing

when you want to propose, tell the girl the same thing. Just say "I've condescended to marry you". All women will jump for joy when they hear that.


As a matter of fact, wasnt this the same problem that girl had in Pride and Prejudice? Am just remembering it now. Some rich guy proposing to a girl and also abusing her family at the same time, for not being in his class. Of course she put him in his place and sent him off reconsidering his manners.

Dalby:
Chief wetin you wan add
I can also claim to be out of the country, so nobody is intimidated
Lets assume you are out, our grand parents were forcefully taken to the west, some  of all after evaluating situations force our self, by ship, land or air(very few) to go increase the number over there dey post 1 every payday dey make so much noise. You no dey here, person when e dey here, dey tell you wetin dey happen back home you dey argue

you're not making any sense at all.

if you get visa, travel out of the country. abi na me dey delay ya emigration?

blacklion tell you say im dey inside country? or what are you going on about?

comot for road abeg make I hear word.

blacklion:
What if the guy is clumsy with words?

What is his command of English is dodgy?

What if his choice of words was affected by the elliptical Nigerian syntax?


Is the use of 'I have finally decided, ' sufficient to justify the GF's asking him to shove his proposal?

Some peeps here are fixated with the guy being supposedly domineering or rude or perceiving himself as doing the lady a 'favour'; but few ladies have stopped to consider how hurt this guy must have been to have his marriage proposal thrown back at him in such a brusque manner?

As AJ pointed out, a more appropriate response could have been to do the usual Nigerian woman coy act e.g. 'I need to think about it, ' or 'lets pray over it, ' and then later point out to him that his choice of language was poor to say the least and possibly rude. After the guy re-formulates the proposal, the lady can then swoon in accepting his proposal to the violins and the fragrance of roses,

Two wrongs don't make a right!

the OP has said the guy himself explained his reason for proposing in that manner.He himself accepted that he didnt do it right the first time. So why are you weeping louder than him? the girl's reaction was based on his action. She may have overreacted, but that still doesnt excuse the guy. AJ pointed out that she ought to be used to the way Nigerian men do their own things- in that kind of frightening manner. So you're saying, that's how Nigerian males should continue proposing marriage -like club the woman over the head and drag her off kicking and screaming? The guy would have benefitted from reading a couple of mills and boon and watching a few hollywood movies along that line, in my opinion.

Assuming the girl even wanted to refuse the marriage proposal or delay her decision, how do you respond to someone who tells you " I have decided to marry you?" as if she'd been begging and hounding him to marry her in the first place?

Anyway, the real issue here is the couple had a fight, both of them offended each other, but they've been able to kiss, make up and put their differences behind them. At least the guy was man enough to accept his mistake and apologize, which I highly commend him for. Shows he loves the woman enough not to want to lose her. Says volumes about his character, by the way.

and I repeat- why must some of you feel like Nigerians deserve nothing good in their lives? Is it written somewhere that Nigerians are cursed forever?We always have to settle for being the underdog? If you believe that then its a pity.

I have to say I was so shocked by your comment.

edit.

blacklion:
The funniest aspect is - how many married women in naija ever received any sort of formal proposal?


True true, Mills and Boon and Hollywood don spoil some women head sotey them no fit reason well again.

Abeg, leave wetin them write for motor, enter motor - is it mode of proposal that determines the future of the marriage?

hmm, I was about to comment on the bolded then noticed you're gearing up for a fight.

I used to think you were a peaceful person? I guess I thought wrong.

anyway, why must we Nigerians/Africans constantly denigrate ourselves and feel we're not worthy of anything good? We should always confirm the Tarzan stereotype while swinging from our trees. That's what I'm reading from your comment.

@ jesusfreak

seems u didnt take time to watch d video dear, shame shame

d article is only a prelude to the main video, check it out on CNN

I watched the video and will watch it again, to catch your drift here.

the problem I have is with the generalization.



@ romeo:
by the way, romeo, you sound/seem very familiar somehow. Do I know you from somewhere, by some strange chance? (or at a night club in Spain or new zealand?) even though we CLEARLY don't move in the same circles? I don't spend all my own time dancing at the clubs o. I have too many other things to do, even though I like dancing. Not that I'm saying there's anything wrong with spending every day at the night clubs. Everyone has to pay their bills one way or the other.

can we PLEASE apply all this know how to the Nigerian situation!!!!!!!!!!

me I don tire for this Hillary/Obama saga.

all these "too close too call" calls are too hyper for my liking.

But for people who are giving themselves heart attack over Obama, as if this is the first time the US will be having an election, na wa o.

you guys are missing the point.

Okeke may have lied about his occupation to the prospective bride. Could be delivery man, security guard or cab driver saying he's a doctor, lawyer or important business man abroad. Nothing wrong with any of these occupations, but why lie to someone you say you care about and want to marry. What about when she discovers the reality.

The wife arrives joyfully overseas only to discover her dream prince is actually the opposite. Nothing wrong with that, except he shouldnt have deceived her in the first place.

happens a lot.

There's a story somewhere about someone whose girlfriend is thinking of sponsoring their entire wedding and engagement since the guy has no money. Some girls don't mind these kind of things, as long as the man is telling the truth. 

even if he does, is Ruth going to be the one financing the whole process. From traditional wedding to white wedding and honeymoon. She already coughed up the funds for the engagement ring.

If Augustine wants to marry and he has no job, then surely common sense should tell him he needs to find a solution to his situation. Either delay the marriage or find a job. Start a business, no matter how small. When the children start coming, is Ruth also going to be the one bankrolling the entire household expenses. Unless the guy is handicapped, she's getting herself into a big problem here.

Ruth herself is an enabler. She's placing no demands or responsibility on the guy, hence she's not helping him in any way, even though she thinks she is.

he's an international LovePeddler
he's old
he's ugly
he's a liar
he's bad in bed
he doesnt call
he goes away for weeks at a time without contacting you

@ topic:

I have finally decided to marry you.




later on in life:

I have finally decided to divorce you.





what's the difference? One is the puppet, one is the puppeteer.

what a scary marriage proposal. I'd freak out too, if I were the woman.

I read the story on sunday and I think she may regret it.

am not sure Augustine is really in love with her. Rather, he only wants to block her from dating another guy.

No, I dont think he loves her.

romeo:
I like dancing and i do it anywhere i find myself, be it Nigeria or Europe because i am still a youth

My friend sometimes it's good to keep mute on issues we don't know and learn from others

please don't consider yourself an expert on Nigerian prostitutes abroad.

You don't know each and every one of them, no matter how much dancing you do every single day and night. They come, they go.

So, unless you're the one bankrolling the entire trafficking process from Nigeria to Europe, you can't have 20/20 vision in this matter.



@ jesusfreak: doublecheck your source again for what you just wrote. The article I read talked mainly about the redlight districts. And its not called buying- there's a different name for it.

romeo:
You can argue what you like about this topic but the truth still remains that every single Nigerian prostitute in Europe knew what she was going to do over there and the amount she was going to pay her Madam, Just wait for the part 2 of that CNN programme and then you'll come to know what i already know about them and their families

Such documentaries are always on the air waves here, how they go to the juju shrines and how their families openly offer them to the journalists for free. They are all into Voodoo my goshhhhh

If you tell me that almost all the clubs in New Zealand are only frequented by ashawos then i will rest my case about Nigeria having more ashis than most western countries!! but until then i am still me

No need bringing that Blatant comment back because she already apologised for that

I've said my own, you've said your own. To each his own.

by the way, are you a bouncer? na only night club you dey frequent for Nigeria, Spain, Italy, or anywhere you go? abi na recruiter you be?

Why would I be going round all the clubs in new zealand to count the number of prostitutes there?

romeo:
Where is the lie about what i said? don't open your mouth when you don't have a clue

my sources are my friends here who happen to be prostitutes and it's not a secret over here how they came and what rituals were performed before they came and all that bullshit

I don't think you need a web link to know that about 80% of night clubs in Nigeria has been hijacked by ashawos thus making every other girl in a club almost a "club girl" in the eyes of men

almost 50% or more of our hotels are home to those ashawos

a good chunk of our female university students are ashawos

Even our so called Senate is debating that

Flash money anywhere in Nigeria and you'll pack girls afterwards as take away (even in the churches)

If you're not based in Nigeria Tpia, then it's been quite a long time you came home last

una don come be that o.

Are you yourself based in Nigeria- or is that not Spain on your profile.

If you happen to have friends who are prostitutes, in what way does that mean every single Nigerian prostitute abroad knew they were being trafficked for prostitution. Again with the generalizations. You can't claim to know every single prostitute in Italy, Spain or wherever you are. When this trade was in its initial stages, there were many women who said they were tricked about the actual nature of their employment in Europe. And if these people are going into the remote hinterlands to scout for girls, then there's still the possibility that some of these girls may not know the exact nature of the job. Or are you saying every single girl without exception has the desire to be a prostitute.

Some go with the full knowledge of what they're getting into, while others don't.

As to night club patrons and the like- every country has them. Dont know why you consider Nigeria's own worse than others. have you ever visited the US. Anyway, flash money anywhere in the world, and a good chunk of girls will follow you home. Dont know what you're saying here.

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@ Blatant:

The article didnt specifically mention Benin girls, to the best of my knowledge.

the day I go to a church and find them distributing condoms is the day I tell them to call me crazy if they ever see me there again.

Not to mention asking them which/whose funds they are using to purchase condoms.

olrotimi:
someone smwhere in new zealand, carrying the unseen signature of '[b] this foreigner sef' [/b]its all good

new zealand offended you somehow?

there are no Nigerians in Australia?

or you know where every single Nigerian is at any given point in time?


where is the signature saying foreigner?

You must be paranoid.

and on your blog, you posted a picture of some guy and his son who you said are your American interests, and that you want to build up similar friends and interests all over the world. Does this explain your fixation on new zealand? Explain what's going on with you, and why you're following me around. I'm a very friendly person and I dont mind.

@michelin

How stupid are you?

How can you compare an instrument of prevention to a weapon of destruction?

Soemtimes I dey wonder if una get head sef!

So you're taking this topic seriously- even more so than the OP? 

the thread itself is tongue-in-cheek, so you're just working yourself into a fury over nothing.Its a free world- people are free to be religious if they want to, so no need to rain curses on people for what they chose to believe.

However, like I said, its a free world, which is why you yourself can curse out anyone who decides to have beliefs that are different from yours. The religion section is lively enough as it is, with various religions abusing each other over there, so nothing new about what you're saying.


check your facts and find out information on condoms and the military.

yes, condoms are an instrument of prevention, just like the pill and diaphrams.  Should churches also distribute pills, diaphragms and IUDs to the female members. Does this analogy make you feel better. Maybe churches can routinely have birth control clinics every sunday after service, for both male and female church members. Are you more comfortable with this example.

anyway, I dont consider this a serious topic. If you do, then kudos.

@ romeo

Every single Nigerian lady prostituting in Europe knew what she was going to do in Europe

na lie.






@ romeo

There are more prostitutes in Nigeria than the whole of Europe

name your source for this information?

should machine guns also be distributed in church in case some people there decide to be armed robbers?

4 Play:
Stop yarning tosh.There is no evidence that demand for prostitutes is high in those countries.Many men in each nation will always demand for prostitutes,the key thing is whether there are sufficient locals prepared to enter into the trade.

Is it because CNN did a documentary of those 2 particular nations,you seem to think they have a unique problem with the importation of prostitutes? Every Western nation imports prostitutes in large numbers.To the extent that there are any differences,its down to the effectiveness or policies of the law enforcement agencies in clamping down on the issue.

If CNN does a documentary tomorrow on sex trafficking in Ireland,you will now claim that demand is very high in Ireland.

No believe na.Next time when you compare HIV rates in both Nigeria and the West,keep wondering why.The day you will see European prostitutes lining up streets in every major city in Nigeria,get back to me.

There is no evidence you say? If that isnt yarning tosh, then I don't know what is.

The only evidence I'm not seeing is evidence that there are no "sufficient locals prepared to enter into the trade". Like there's any country in this world without its share of poor people. Na every single Italian dey rich? Keep fooling yourself.

I'm also noticing your quickness to jump on Nigerian women who find themselves victims of this trafficking. Not all the women who are trafficked in this manner go intentionally. Some do, while others don't.  And you're saying the whole thing is a fabrication by CNN because they ran a documentary about it?


If you watched the video, one woman was crying while she recounted how eight men humped her at one session, after tricking her about her services. Maybe you feel the tears were fake.

see Nigeria o.  Seeing no evidence. Any wonder we are the way we are, with our mentality. 

4 Play:
Because the local women of those countries are not so keen on prostitution.They have greater career opportunities so foreigners from poor countries have to be imported in the absence of local women.What drives women into prostitution is poverty and poor countries always have a teeming supply of prostitutes for exportation.

the question is still unanswered.

Why is there such a high demand for prostitutes in those two countries in particular. The local women may not be prostitutes ( not that every single one of them is angelic- I'm sure they got their own home grown ladies of the night too), but why are women being imported in such large numbers and for so many years, to service these men? Are their women not giving them sex AT ALL? Why is the demand for prostitutes too high to be adequately catered to by local brothels with local women. After all those arent the only countries in Europe. How are the other Europeans managing to cope with their own lack of sex from their career women?

no be by force o.

I could care less anyhow. If una like break up if una like remain the same.

una still dey inside Africa.

4 Play:
Stop being ridiculous.The reality is that unlike Nigerian women,the women of those countries are not as eager as our girls to join the prostitution trade.Its not a demand problem,its a supply problem.

Anybody who has visited Nigeria knows you are far more likely to find a prostitute than in the West.So not only is there an "oversupply" of prostitutes in Nigeria,our women have started exporting their trade to other countries were the local women are not keen on joining the trade.

no, I find it very difficult to believe what you're saying here.

Your explanation still does not explain why the men of those countries need to import so many women for sex. Prostitution is not specific to Nigeria alone- every country has its share of prostitutes. And if you read the article carefully, it mentions both Nigerian and eastern European prostitutes who are being trafficked to two specific countries in Europe.

There is no country in the world without prostitution. The bottom line is still money.

It looks more like a specific demand problem (like the slave trade), not necessarily a supply problem.