Christianity Etc › Re: by Ubenedictus(m): 11:41am On Apr 30, 2017 |
PastorAIO: Can I take a guess about you? You are a guy that one day picked up a book (a rare event) on catholicism and history. The book filled you with awe and wonder because you had never had information like that before in you life. it was written simply so even simpletons could understand, in fact the entire thing was directed towards simpletons.
Being filled with awe and wonder you read the book once again and let it's contents sink in, and then you passed it to a friend and he too was filled with awe and wonder. Throughout this whole process you didn't once seek to verify the information in the book, everything in it seems so filled with information from another world, it seemed so authoritative. Once you got the gist of the book its ideas took root in your brain and took on a life of their own. You yourself started to invent amazing information sprouting from your own mind.
You found a community of people who would share in the awe and wonder of this unverified historical information. together you supported each other in the unverified delusions. Thus here we are today, you've come to a public forum to share the misinformation without backup and when you are questioned about it you have no answer. Shame. lol |
Christianity Etc › Re: by Ubenedictus(m): 11:41am On Apr 30, 2017 |
luckyCO: God is not under anybody's doctrinal framework. I wish you loosen yourself in order to know and identify with statement that is true instead of who said it.
You called them heresy and all that. If what I said above is heresy them imagine how truth will look like.
It is not good term a teaching herectical because person doesnt believe all your church teaches. so you were taught in your church that only the elect are xtians and you didn't bother to check its truthfulness abi? Sorry to inform you the kingdom on earth has both wheat and tares. Not just the elect. |
Christianity Etc › Re: 'Jesus' Image' Appears Above Colombian City Where 17 People Died Of Landslide by Ubenedictus(m): 5:04pm On Apr 29, 2017 |
donnie: Haha... So God will hold me for calling lies their real mame? oya tell another lie about other peoples belief. |
Christianity Etc › Re: by Ubenedictus(m): 5:02pm On Apr 29, 2017 |
luckyCO: Please let us not argue on semantics. That original church that was formed in upper room Isreal was the exact church that came to rome though rome spill their blood.
Killing Christians didnt exterminate the work of God,satan withdrew small and later joined the church and mixed up everything that is holy with roman pagan order and after doing that satan become their leader. With the help of roman power and love of money they exported the mixture all over the world hence dark ages,placing man in charge of every aspect of salvation instead of Christ.
If you look at they way most rcc members worship,discuss,believe or teach you will get confused thinking whether they are christians or not. St malachi prophesized this long ago.
Bibles was compiled by the power of the Holy Spirit through Catholic Church(believers or Christians) that is why rome(some popes) get to heard about it they burnt bible and killed anybody found holding it except the priest. THis is the question Oya prove ur claim, who and who was using d bible before the catholic church. you can respond to it or just say you don't know. the long epistle doesn't provide the needed proof |
Romance › Re: Asian Bride In Traditional Edo Attire As She Weds Nigerian Man (Photos) by Ubenedictus(m): 4:29pm On Apr 29, 2017 |
Skseries: the funny part of this is that the family willl be excited their son married an oyinbo, BT if he had brought a gal from another tribe in Nigeria they will have frown at it idea... We Nigerians don't really love ourselves the guy is Edo. Edos are usually very accommodating they literally marry from any tribe. |
Christianity Etc › Re: 'Jesus' Image' Appears Above Colombian City Where 17 People Died Of Landslide by Ubenedictus(m): 4:20pm On Apr 29, 2017 |
donnie: Even you know you are not being honest since you will not apologise for lying against a group of people I pray God holds your lie against you on judgement day. have a nice day, I'll avoid those who lie against me. |
Christianity Etc › Re: by Ubenedictus(m): 9:20am On Apr 29, 2017 |
luckyCO: Please let us not argue on semantics. That original church that was formed in upper room Isreal was the exact church that came to rome though rome spill their blood.
Killing Christians didnt exterminate the work of God, satan withdrew small and later joined the church and mixed up everything that is holy with roman pagan order and after doing that satan become their leader. With the help of roman power and love of money they exported the mixture all over the world hence dark ages,placing man in charge of every aspect of salvation instead of Christ.
St malachi prophesized this long ago.
Bible was compiled by the power of the Holy Spirit through Catholic Church(believers or Christians) that is why rome(some popes) get to heard about it they burnt bible and killed anybody found holding it except the priest. i hope you know you just told lies you can't prove? |
Christianity Etc › Re: by Ubenedictus(m): 9:12am On Apr 29, 2017 |
luckyCO: You are correct my dear! Sometimes we dwell on semantics rather than line of thought someone is presenting.
Church is simply called out ones,assembling together to form Christ body. One person (part) cant form a body(church).
However that church start from being Christ's carrier that is why kingdom of God is within you.
I also agree with you that all Christ is he emptied inside his church so if you want truth look for that church. Where is that church? Those that server God in Spirit and truth.
But where I got problem with your doctrine is that you failed the foundational meaning of that church Christ is building in which he appointed Apostles,prophets,evangelists,pastors and teachers to overseer and these are not hierrachy but all are equal standing in their offices building the church christ assgned such that no sinner can be part of. this is a lot of wheat mixed with tares. What u just taught is calvins heresy...d so called church of d elect. |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by Ubenedictus(m): 9:09am On Apr 29, 2017 |
italo: Ok. Small space given.
How body, bro? thanks, body dey inside cloth o |
Christianity Etc › Re: 'Jesus' Image' Appears Above Colombian City Where 17 People Died Of Landslide by Ubenedictus(m): 12:04am On Apr 29, 2017 |
donnie: What is the lie? to
catholics, the church tradition is
regarded more higly than the bible.
THAT IS THE LIE. |
Christianity Etc › Re: by Ubenedictus(m): 11:58pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
analice107: My dear, the RCC never gave us the Bible. You can't publish another persons work posthumously and then claim authorship of the work.
The Bible was in use long before the RCC saw the light of day. Oya prove ur claim, who and who was using d bible before the catholic church. |
Christianity Etc › Re: by Ubenedictus(m): 11:56pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
analice107: Are these people even sane? Why do they keep rehearsing 'The Catholic Church gave us the Bible?'. Chinua Achibe is dead, If he wrote a book which he didn't publish before he died, and i pick it up and publish, will i become the author of that book?
What nonsense is this sef? The catholic Church compiled the Bible, COMPILED, that's what she did, compiled different scrolls and made it into one book, how does that imply that she wrote the Bible?
Weren't the early Christians using the Bible before the Catholic Church was formed in 4 Century AD?
Was Paul a Catholic? I don tire for these people abeg. Just to answer you, i am sane. The catholic church wasnt formed in the 4th century, paul is a catholic |
Christianity Etc › Re: by Ubenedictus(m): 11:52pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
MZLady39: My apologies to you brother. I shouldn't have called you or him those words. You are not insane or weird. Please forgive me for that. Sometimes my flesh rises up...when it shouldn't. No problem...in such tense issues it happens, i know i have dished out my own share of heavy words on NL. it happens. |
Christianity Etc › Re: by Ubenedictus(m): 11:48pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
analice107: My dear, the RCC never gave us the Bible. You can't publish another persons work posthumously and then claim authorship of the work.
The Bible was in use long before the RCC saw the light of day. I just checked again and it seems you have created another strawman again. why do u like making up things nobody said and start argueing against it? why do u enjoy argueing with yourself? who said d church authored the bible? |
Christianity Etc › Re: by Ubenedictus(m): 11:35pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
analice107: Sir, adding or removing bits and pieces from someone's work, doesn't make you the author of the work nah.
Reviewers and Previewers of literary texts adds or remove from the original manuscripts if they see the need,but you can never see their names stamped on the back page as the author of a work.
It just so laughable for the RCC to keep claiming the authorship of the Bible. The bible is not someONEs work. It was many different books, by many different people, across centuries, some jews others xtian making use of a wide range of genre, those current books u have are just a subset of d books that were considered inspired. Among the very many possible books it was d church (under d spirit) that chose what is true scripture and excluded others. If not for d church u wont have a bible just many different works many heretic. The bible is an expression of the church's faith, to attempt to understand it in exclusion of the church is a futile endeavour |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by Ubenedictus(m): 11:12pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
oga italo, for d other thread abeg give d lady small space abeg.
reduce d gear. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Holy Thursday, Footwashing , And The Institution Of The Priesthood by Ubenedictus(m): 1:35am On Apr 28, 2017 |
Sacluxpaint: Seriously?? You are saying this Wow! I won't continue further with you. So the son of God suffered on the cross for you to go through temporal punishment? He said it is finished, why talk about despair in purgatory when Christ has given you salvation??
And how can death be a temporal punishment?? God sent his only son for you and I to be saved totally. There is no dispair in purgatory. physical death is a temporal punishment for sin and d last time i checked it is still there even after Christ. |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by Ubenedictus(m): 1:32am On Apr 28, 2017 |
To the degree that someone loves
Christ's Church,
to that degree he has the Holy Spirit. -
St. Augustine |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholicism by Ubenedictus(m): 1:02am On Apr 28, 2017 |
ellbreziy: Really!!! I wasn't talking bout saints and if I was the interpretation of the Bible on that page was wrong this is what you asked Good afternoon guys, I'm really confused on the issue of Catholics praying to holy Mary, and I really need a biblical explanation to this. I don't want people to start quarreling cos of this. mary is a saint, so d topic is praying with the saint and d article is relevant. if you claim d bible wasnt well interpreted, pls show where and how. |
Christianity Etc › Re: by Ubenedictus(m): 12:56am On Apr 28, 2017 |
analice107: Are these people even sane? Why do they keep rehearsing 'The Catholic Church gave us the Bible?'. Chinua Achibe is dead, If he wrote a book which he didn't publish before he died, and i pick it up and publish, will i become the author of that book?
What nonsense is this sef? The catholic Church compiled the Bible, COMPILED, that's what she did, compiled different scrolls and made it into one book, how does that imply that she wrote the Bible?
Weren't the early Christians using the Bible before the Catholic Church was formed in 4 Century AD?
Was Paul a Catholic? I don tire for these people abeg. D church didnt just compile d bible, d church set d canon of scripture, the books u see in d bible are there because the church has put them there and didnt add others. |
Christianity Etc › Re: by Ubenedictus(m): 12:52am On Apr 28, 2017 |
analice107: Are these people even sane? Why do they keep rehearsing 'The Catholic Church gave us the Bible?'. Chinua Achibe is dead, If he wrote a book which he didn't publish before he died, and i pick it up and publish, will i become the author of that book?
What nonsense is this sef? The catholic Church compiled the Bible, COMPILED, that's what she did, compiled different scrolls and made it into one book, how does that imply that she wrote the Bible?
Weren't the early Christians using the Bible before the Catholic Church was formed in 4 Century AD?
Was Paul a Catholic? I don tire for these people abeg. Tempers are flaring, everybody please take a deep breath. analice i am suprised u are asking these questions, i remember u were in d dralien thread and i specifically remember pastoraio did justice to this issue there. There we many books early catholics were using like shepherd of hermas etc but they are not found in d bible because we didnt add them. |
Christianity Etc › Re: by Ubenedictus(m): 12:42am On Apr 28, 2017 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: by Ubenedictus(m): 12:33am On Apr 28, 2017 |
MZLady39: Good for you brother!! !! You guys never fail to amaze me!! With all due respect, you guys are insane!!! I've never met such "insane" & "weird" Christian guys in my life. Don't worry....it's not just you two that are creepy. Just won't let a discussion die...& must win an argument. It's got to be you guys' way or no way. Since it'll make you guys feel better...here I go. "You masters are correct!" "You win!" LOL! Well let me stay in the ditch...& bury me  Blessings to you guys.... Hey, nobody is trying to get you. Calm down. I left the ritual topic in the ritual thread and i have left it there...i do not hunt people with their mistake. Italo brought d topic as a test of sincerity, i expected you to simple say, i made a mistake there but i'm sure about this...that means u are sincere and have no problem correcting urself if important points are raised but u decided to go wit d sematics arguement.... Insane and weird is just over d top. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholicism by Ubenedictus(m): 10:35pm On Apr 27, 2017 |
Raphael81: My brother no vex, just that people like this are the real cause of problems in Christianity, no christian with the Holy Spirit would behave like her, she is a wolf in the clothing of a sheep I understand but pls try not to lose ur temper even if u are absolutely sure d person is stupid. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholicism by Ubenedictus(m): 4:48pm On Apr 27, 2017 |
An2elect2: You gave me the Bible? yes, the catholic church canonised the bible u are using. |
Christianity Etc › Re: 'Jesus' Image' Appears Above Colombian City Where 17 People Died Of Landslide by Ubenedictus(m): 4:46pm On Apr 27, 2017 |
donnie: Of course I accept catholics. But they opened their doors to false teachings long time ago ...to catholics, the church tradition is regarded more higly than the bible. I hope u know it is a sin to lie against others? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholicism by Ubenedictus(m): 4:41pm On Apr 27, 2017 |
Raphael81: Your mother is lost my dear E neva reach like this. no repay e bad mouth wit badmouth. you have to be bigger than him. |
Christianity Etc › Re: by Ubenedictus(m): 4:39pm On Apr 27, 2017 |
analice107: The Keys of the Kingdom are given to every believer who has a revelation of who and what Christ is. Yeah, satan is adversary but Jesus called Peter by name and referred to him as satan, was Peter satan? NOT ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE. The greek word used the is the 2nd person SINGULAR www.biblehub.com/grammar/ppro-d2s.htmIt literally refers to 1 person. |
Christianity Etc › Re: by Ubenedictus(m): 4:37pm On Apr 27, 2017 |
analice107: So, Peter the Church, the custodian of the Keys if heaven was also an adversary? Yes peter who was given d custody of the keys of heaven also denied Jesus 3 time at a time and acted as an adversary at another time. God doesnt chose d perfect, he perfects the chosen. |
Christianity Etc › Re: by Ubenedictus(m): 4:32pm On Apr 27, 2017*. Modified: 11:54pm On Apr 28, 2017 |
analice107: You are now talking about disputes, is the OP about settling disputes?
How do you know the truth about Scriptures? Should you rather ask men or the author of the Scriptures?
I taka the Holy Spirit sir. I take both d spirit of truth and the pillar of truth. The Holy spirit and the church. both/and not either/or. |
Christianity Etc › Re: by Ubenedictus(m): 2:46pm On Apr 27, 2017 |
analice107: Every believer who has the Holy Spirit indwelling him/her has the Keys of the Kingdom, not Peter. NOT ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE. The greek word used the is the 2nd person SINGULAR www.biblehub.com/grammar/ppro-d2s.htmit literally refers to only one person. So i ask again who was given the keys in that passage by Jesus? Do you believe that Peter was Satan who The Master rebuked? satan means adversary, at d time peter wanted to prevent d master from his job hence he was rebuked as adversary. |
Christianity Etc › Re: by Ubenedictus(m): 2:25pm On Apr 27, 2017 |
analice107: The truth is glaring there sir. Ofcuz it is glaring paul didnt take d issue to jerusalem because of timothy bt because an arguement arose and everyone knew that the right way to end the issue was to take it to d council not everyone claiming God spoke to me. |