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Funny thread really got me laughing real hard.
Listen Banom obviously we all want to separate the wheat from the chaff, the fake from the real but the least you could do is have very good reasons & solid proof to back up your claims not embarrassing inklings

Your number five is definitely the most funniest, what language is he meant to speak if not the one he understands? And about the jet it seems you are so convinced he was lying so I suppose you can back up your claims with solid proof not just on personal intuitions and hear-says

How cute.

You definately in my prayers.

This thing take time, unfortunately you can't just switch this love feelings on and off especially since you have a child with him. Just take it one day at a time, the sting will get less and less as time passes.

But i do agree with most, please be strong and stop sleeping with him. Hope things work out for the best for you Iya kadijat.

Creflo Dollar and
Joel Osteen - but i have to say i love him more for that smooth texan accent/ voice of his, i could listen to him all day long and what i have noticed of him is that he is more of a motivational pastor

last night pizza. surprisedly it tastes more better

His pidgin is quite good  he try

biina:
so you think all under age sexual relationships are forced. Not so my friend, but rather the society deems that the consent of the underage person is not valid, hence we have statutory rape. Also you seek consent from animals and corpses as evidence, when you cannot provide evidence of their objection. So still, who made the rules? Society.

The reason why you cannot provide evidence of their objection is because there isn’t any. Listen clearly; same sex marriage is between two consenting adults, they are not harming anyone. I really don’t see how you can compare them to the criminal act of paedophiles, necrophilia e.t.c

biina:
A preferential truth. How do you know that people are not gay by choice (the fact that they believe so is insignificant in evaluating its veracity)?, or that people that desire to be married to more than one person do so by choice?. Any body could believe in anything, but that does not make it true.

Well are you 100% sure they weren’t born gay? I for one cannot prove whatsoever what ever how they were born, but since all of them say they were born that way, I agree it is the truth from their own point of view.Just because you don't believe it doesn't necessary mean it is not true.

biina:
It infringes on my right when people that are not contributing to the continuance of the societal existence (by bearing children), seek to reap benefits (e.g. tax deductions) which were aimed at the institution that does so.

Following your line of thought, I suppose barren people shouldn’t get the “tax deductions”
By the way what tax deductions are this people “reaping ” off from , isn’t tax deduction based on circumstances and status? So what tax deduction exactly are gay people reaping off?

pataki
"it seems you didn't see the ignore me if you see the need" part.
I for one didn't see the need to be calling a guy a coward just because he wanted to meet in the FBI building !

oh la la! what a funny thread!

^
seeing as this a public forum i can choose to say whatever i like to who ever i like. it is up to you to ignore me if you see the need.
cheap attention how is that possible

Pataki:
@ Becomrrich

I think you are not only being stupid, but acting as a coward. Why must someone meet you in the police station? Is everyone a criminal that the only place to meet you is in a police station? Are you under police watch and detention in Canada? Which police station can you be met?

So do you think we should start discussing yoruba-benin republic in a Toronto police station? Are you scared of paying even for his drink in a restaurant? And you are now trying to arrange for a meeting in police station. Your yoruba bold face is nonsense my friend.

BTW, my referring to you as a coward was in respect to you not being able to post your satellite image here.

why the attack, the man clearly said he has death threat on his life. better be safe than sorry!

biina:
@vanitty
Seems you missed the point.
Who defines an adult, is it not the majority in the society?
Who defines that an animal consents or objects to the act, after all non can communicate to an animal? Same can be said of a corpse.

What do you think I mean by consent? By consent I meant approval by the two people involved and until animals and dead corpses can talk and give consent your line of argument I insist is very ridiculous.

biina:
For your argument of adult consent, maybe we should legally recognize polygamy and polyandry while we are at it?

I am trying to figure out how gay marriage equate to polyandry/polygamy marriages
Putting into consideration that gay people believe they had no choice whatsoever into how they are, they believe they were “born gay” to the personal choices of those that choose to marry more than one spouse
also seen as gay marriage is between two people not three, six , ten e.t.c

biina:
The society defines what it deems acceptable hence you cannot say it's someone's right or freedom to behave as he deems fit. 'cos when your exercise of your freedom impinges on mine, we will have a problem.

I hear this “infringement of right” argument thrown about a lot, please do tell how does a legal marriage approved by the state infringe yours?

biina:
I have no problem with you being gay (and no one should be persecuted for it) , and you can define your union to be whatever you want, but don't tell me that I must accommodate your aberration in my existing definitions, when the majority disapproves.  Accepting gay marriages is a slippery slope, as the aim is beyond just being with a loved one, but rather the legal entitlements that they feel comes with the status. I for one do not want a gay couple adopting kid's.

In summary, if you don’t believe in gay marriage, don’t practice it but don’t try and deny those that practice it their personal right just because it contradict your own personal morals or religious beliefs.
I don’t see any legal justification for  gay marriage to be prohibited. We all have to deal with our morals our own way

hey ya very sad news
May her soul rest in peace

[quote author=*Hauwa* link=topic=260820.msg3721052#msg3721052 date=1239573149]crushing pounded yam with your hands?

well, you would need mortar, pestle, AC, oja and short nicker [/quote]hehehehe

Well the pounded yam I know, you need mortar & pestle.
boil the yam.
Do not add salt and when it is soft, get your mortar and pestle out , put the yam in one by one and pound, pound, pound,  until your desired result is acquired . You can sprinkle a bit of hot water while pounding.

biina:
@vanitty
The flaw in your counter-argument is the circular reasoning. You implicitly state the acceptance of a gay couples (which is the conclusion), putting them on the same platform as straight couples, and then use that to evaluate their action of showing affection in public. Something is termed indecent exposure because enough people in society find it offensive. Remember the yard stick varies from society to society (try dressing provocatively in certain societies in the middle east!). If gay couples were acceptable in the society, then we wouldn't be having this discussion.

A lot of people are homophobic because they cannot relate to it, and only hide under religious tenets to justify their position.

Some people pass comments as if homosexual are fully accepted in the US. I beg to differ, as the issue is still being contested on various fronts.

People that are in support of homosexuals, I wonder what your position is on bestiality, necrophiliacs, and pedophiles? After all,
they only have uncommon sexual preferences.

It is unfortunate, but all men will never be 'equal'. Society will always discriminate, and give preferential treatment, based on several factor including who we are.

So your argument is comparing consent between two HUMAN adult to animals, dead people and babies, I hope you see the silliness of your argument.

All I am trying to say at the end of the day is i accept them as people.

I do not have to accept their actions just the same way i do not condone stealing.

It is not for me to judge them start comparing their act to bestiality e.t.c.

I leave all the judgement to God  

Is one sin bigger than the other?

Ain't we all born into sins?

God did not permit you to preach hatred against some set of people,

Didn't God teach love of all?

If you think your route to hapiness is by holding hands or doing whatever with a member of the same sex Good luck to you.

I cannot force my christian belief and morals on everyone

As far as i Know only catholics don't eat meat on good fridays

Garri & moin moin

PurestBoy:
I expect someone who is truly HIV positive to have good moral in replying those who disbelieve her rather than insulting us. She chop crase ni abi na me give her HIV? She should be conciliate in dealing with people and seek mercy from God.

What exactly is your problem, why are you  so concerned, if she is lying or not what business is it off yours . . I am so tempted to call you “alatenumo oshi” . . .a guy for that matter.

anonimi:
Or maybe you do not see these thieving politicians in the front row seats on Sundays and ceremonies in your churches?

anonimi:
I assume you did not see this part of my post? Or did you?

Oh I saw that and I am asking you again for the third time if you can in anyway prove with fact  not hearsay or personal intuitions what you said “ that the major recipients of the loots from those politicians are the religious leader”

If you cannot ,don’t bother replying because we will just be going round in circles.

You talking about this?

anonimi:
I am sure you can give a list of these things they do more for the society as you seem to know so much more than others on this forum.

Are you a Nigerian?

and who are the major recipients of the loot of these "thieving politicians" other than your reverends, GOs, pastors, imams, sheikhs, khadis etc., with Adeboye in the very ore front of the pack. Or maybe you do not see these thieving politicians in the front row seats on Sundays and ceremonies in your churches?
So do you see why the churches and mosques are to blame for the rot in "that" country?

Why don't you reply the rejoinder instead of trying to manoeuvre your way out of it and oh please come up with facts not hearsays .

and will you stop with your embarrasing attempt at being insultive it does nothing to me but makes you sound unsure of yourself and silly

ohaechesi:
cos it a natural phenomenon, it ranges from young to old, male and female. so what is your opinion

More valuable based on what? The gender argument will never be solved; there are some particular activities that one of them will excel over the other so and vice versa.
It would be better to work as a team in a marriage rather than looked as a value or power thing

Why should One be more valuable than the other

Stroke you up - - ------- changing faces

Wind beneath my wings -------Bette Midler

Think twice ------ Celine Dion

One more night ------ Phil collins

Wonderful World ------ Sam Cooke

The one i love ------- David Gray

Lady (hear me tonight) - - - Modjo

Sensitivity - - - - - - Ralph Tresvyant

Show me love -------Robin S

I just died in your arms - - - - - Cutting crew

LMAO Nigeria Nigeria giant of African indeed!!

anonimi:
I am sure you can give a list of these things they do more for the society as you seem to know so much more than others on this forum.

I do not claim to no more than anyone but then again i do not come up with random things just to thrust aside the main issues so i ask again what has my income based tax and VAT has to do with tax exempt churches?

anonimi:
and who are the major recipients of the loot of these "thieving politicians" other than your reverends, GOs, pastors, imams, sheikhs, khadis etc., with Adeboye in the very ore front of the pack. Or maybe you do not see these thieving politicians in the front row seats on Sundays and ceremonies in your churches?
So do you see why the churches and mosques are to blame for the rot in "that" country?

I think that the onus should be on the person trying to make us believe that the major recipients of the loot are the religious leader so i ask can you prove your stance on the matter?

@ Pastor AIO

Pastor AIO:
A number of things make the Thisday article appear inauthentic. 

1) Instead of reporting the facts as facts they seem to be hedging by saying: The purchase of a private jet, a Gulfstream 4XP with registration number 707EA, might have been attributed to the General Overseer of the Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG), Pastor Enoch Adeboye, in error.

Might? Is that how you report a news story? They either made an error or they did not make an error.

If they made an error I am very interested to know how the error was arrived at.  It is not an easy error to make. What was the initial source of the story? Some church members buy a jet for commercial purposes and this gets misconstrued and reported as Redeemed bought a Jet!

2) They claim to have seen documents but failed to narrate to us any of the contents of the documents that prove that it was purchased by 5 entrepreneurs. 

Now ever seen I've been aware of business dealings, I've never heard of business men that want to keep their names confidential. I don't know about you o, but most business I know try to advertise. Thisday says: The five members of the church, whose names are being withheld for confidential reasons,

So, say, I'm a potential client and I want to charter their plane . . . I don't know who to go to to discuss terms or availability.  Remember, the plane doesn't belong to Redeemed so I can't go to Redeemed to negotiate terms for the charter.  How ridiculous is that?  A confidential business entrepreneur.  Not even 1, but 5. 

3)Who is this other source that ThisDay then quote.  He tells us that the business plan is well laid out.  Is he one of the entrepreneurs that he knows the business plan so well?  Does the document first alluded to also give details of the business plan?

Sorry but the whole things just smells very fishy.  It smells of a PR exercise in damage limitation.

So because of the use of “might” you have come to the conclusion that they are trying to cover up.
Might is used when there is a possibility things could or could not have happened and I am sure you know the expression “innocent till proven guilty” until you can prove that the owner of the jet is Rev Adeboye, you have to be content with the explanation given by “thisday”
Besides if you are trying disprove the new article by thisday, your bone of contention should be with the journalists that wrote a totally fabricated story the first time round and his/her second article still raising doubt on the issue.


To come to that sort of conclusion that it is impossible for there to be that sort of business man in the world you must have encountered all the business man in the world so have you?
If you are trying to invalidate articles/people you have to have “facts” not just based on  personal intuition

biina:
I doubt churches are classified as non-profit but rather exempted as defined below

the profits of any company engaged in ecclesiastical, charitable or educational activities of a public character in so far as such profits are not derived from a trade or business carried on by such company

Would a knowledgeable tax accountant/lawyer please shed more light on the issue. Of particular interest to me is how the church owned universities figure into it.

I don’t know about all churches but the churches I know off don’t get government funding, are not involved in politics i.e. they don’t go on TV & radio and start persuading people to vote for one person or the other and all funding are gift from the congregations but if you insist they are not non-profit maybe a unbiased lawyer or accountant could disprove me.

If a church owns a university, and it sells services for profit,  i think the  revenue of the university would be taxable

Pastor AIO:
I know that I know nothing; And that is more than most people know. - Socrates

Thank you for admitting that yourself but next time it is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt. unnecessary pettiness is not needed

manmustwac:
Why is it that u don't find it funny is it coz he exposes the truth about religion?

What truth will that be?

Pastor AIO:
I don't need to pay tax because the people that pay for my services have already paid their taxes.

And I guess my accountant and my lawyer don't need to pay their tax either cos I've already paid mine through the people that employed my services in the first place.

You really don't know much do you? Go and read up on what a non-profit organisation is and see if your lawyer and accountant qualifies before you try and make jibes at others

anonimi:
vanitty,

since you pay income tax on your salary or business profit why don't you refuse to pay VAT. that is just one example. I can give you more if/when you respond to this.
meanwhile, is your N/L name indicative of your priorities in life?

First of all what has the choice of my name got to do with my priorities, if you trying to be insulting you have to do better than that.

What has the question you asked got to do with my previous post? Ok let me try and explain again, maybe you will get it this time. A church do not pay tax because they are non-profit, if you check around you will see most non-profit organisation do not pay tax. So I really don’t see how the answer I gave got to me paying my tax and VAT. Paying income based taxes and VAT are not connected.

Just for the sake of it, VAT is value added tax; you get VAT on all products which could easily mean you are paying tax on the product get it now? Besides I am pretty sure all the equipment in the church were bought with the VAT already included. Churches do not pay tax on tithe and offering but they sure do with the goods bought and some services rendered to them .

[s]I do not like that deep blue skirt and what was she thinking with the cardigan. . . a simple blouse tucked in would have made the whole look better in my opinion[/s]

My bad i think that is a dress